Upgrade Review | HP Reverb G2 To Meta Quest 3 | THAT MUCH BETTER?

[@aubreycolemanracing]

In the video I mentioned I have a 3090, but I have a 4090!😂

[@SmokeyMesa]

I love my Quest 3 wired to my 7900XTX's type c connection for sim racing, and wireless via VD for when I'm not seated. I was using VD for sim racing, but going wired allowed me to go from 72 to 90hz with significantly less latency and compression. Those pancake lenses are really awesome, now when I approach a corner I can clearly read the distance markers in my peripheral vision while I focus on the apex. With my index, I found myself turning my head away from the apex just to read the markers.

[@jimbochoo3316]

I'll be using my G2 for at least another 2 to 4 more years -- if it keeps working. I'll just stay on Windows 10 during that time. I find I get better FPS in games in Windows 10 anyhow. I have no compelling reason to get a new headset as the G2 is really good for sim racing and I'm very satisfied with it.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@@jimbochoo3316 it's still a great headset, and someone will make an app for it. I've had my trusty g2 for years.

[@toututu2993]

Windows started to get worse in each generation. I just hate everything about Windows 11 and the only thing it painfully forced me to use that garbage operating system is that it has massive support

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@toututu2993 Depends on your specs though.

[@toututu2993]

@@aubreycolemanracing It's got nothing to do with specs nor performance. Is just everything is worse, work the same way as Windows 7 but looks uglier, harder to navigate, more confusing, frustrating to use, and just not user friendly.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

Ignorance is bliss. The Fresnel lenses on the G2 are exceptionally bad. The Q3 makes VR fun instead of painful lol.

[@matel9985]

Thank you for this review, I am also considering upgrading at some point

[@irgendna]

Depends of whats you playing.. My first VR was lenovo explorer, then odyssey, HP G2, and in the end i "downgraded" back to explorer. Bec im playing beat saber a lot, and 550 grams vs 380 makes a difference when you move a lot, despite the visual quality.

[@jackr.749]

Agreed, the Quest 3 is a great alternative to the Reverb G2. Both HMDs have their advantages / disadvantages and so on, the Quest 3 will have some visible compression in the distance but no where as bad as the Quest 2 but if over Link Cable, you have to up the bitrate, I saw you were using 900 reducing the visible compression, nice!. As for the stock strap, it's horrible, it makes the stock facial interface feel abrasive, once you get a good after market strap (I use a BoBoVR M3), the stock facial interface gets more comfortable, I use the AMVR facial interface, even better than stock for comfort. As for the SDE, this is very dependent on a person's eyes, personally, I see no SDE, zero for me, so this is great. Also, for extended play sessions, using the Quest 3 over wifi opens up power possibilities by using external battery packs (Straps that come with batteries or external power banks). Link cable will drain the Quest 3 slower since it is taking a very small charge from the USB cable and Motherboard USB port, most motherboards will put out 500 to 850 milliamps on from their USB-A ports. Power banks (batteries) with 2.4 amp rating, will keep the Quest 3 charged as you use it. 🙂 As for the optics, I'd have to say they are the best in the industry, they are simply amazing. As for the pronunciation of "Fresnel lenses"...... try Fre (as in Fred) and Nel, the "s" is silent. 😉

[@larryr.6473]

I just upgraded from G2 to Q3. I was seriously contemplating the Pimax Crystal Light, because of the DP connecton. Well, I have no regrets, it just gives me more "good judgment" to get the flag ship Pimax Crystal later on :)

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@larryr.6473 honestly, the quality control is enough to stay away from Pimax, at least until it becomes good.

[@Janninatore]

@@aubreycolemanracing Honestly it seems like they're developing in the wrong direction so unfortunately there is no future in sight where Pimax becomes a company I'd buy from

[@Janninatore]

@@aubreycolemanracing you might wanna read my comment again, I said I'd never buy from them 😄

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@@Janninatore oh my bad! I did read it wrong!🤣

[@Janninatore]

@aubreycolemanracing no worries 😂

[@nassifsamuel55]

A bobo headstrap is a must if you want the best comfort

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@nassifsamuel55 got the pro on the way👍

[@Fearless13468]

I went with the Pimax Crystal Light. The Quest 3 just has a few too many compromises for me.

[@tonygee3284]

There is an app coming for the HP Reverb G2 to keep it alive Or just stay on windows 10 for now

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@tonygee3284 I'm going to keep my reverb anyway, was pretty sure someone would make an app.

[@yokoh691]

Have you considered a dedicated WiFi 6 router for wireless virtual desktop with quest 3? Iv only ever simmed with wireless quest and always preferred it , a nice power bank or straight wall outlet for power too :p

[@yokoh691]

I recommended aha just got to that part on your vid aha

[@gabrielcsik2712]

The most important thing is the latency. Did you measure them? The encoding and decoding should add latency. What are the numbers?

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@gabrielcsik2712 Not interested in going into numbers, there are too many variables like system specs and gpu, wifi/cable, different cables give different latency also. I'm only interested in the user experience, and visual or noticeable latency which I don't notice in the slightest, compared to reverb g2. You want numbers, look elsewhere.

[@gabrielcsik2712]

@aubreycolemanracing sure mate, I got the numbers already.

[@H.Pierre0]

​@@gabrielcsik2712So ?

[@mad-b264]

I have a tough decision, I want but don't need load cell pedals, And I have a Quest 2, But I want a Quest 3 so bad, I can only get the one of two, Because of cost, But my mind keeps going to the Quest 3, lol, Grab an Elite head strap, I bought one for the battery strap with a 5000MAh battery, Until I bought a INIU PCVR charging cable, It is cheap on Amazon too, Works a treat, I can sim race for 3-4 hours and still have over 70% power, I have not been able to run the battery down while using the UNUI cable, It is brilliant I will say 2.4ghz I think it does, But amazing for the Quest 2 the UNIU cable so it will work for the Quest 3, Yeah I am going to get a Quest 3 in about a week or so, The pedals can wait coz they is cheaper, I got a T300 GT-RS and you can get loadcell pedals now for 200 pounds, The Quest 3 is more expensive, You got me wondering now though, lol, I have a 12gb 3060, I think I would get away with medium to high settings like I do now, Coz since I put an MSI Z690 DDR5 32gb of CL36 ram, On my PC the i5 12600k has woken up, lol... I will be sticking in another 32gb next month too, I have another 32gb but it is in four sticks of CL40, I will say the CL36 is much better regardless of what people say, DDR5 has woke my PC right up...... Top explanation bro..... I will still be getting the Quest 3 though, I made my mind up coz it is not the pedals I can't stop thinking about, I use Sim Racing as a way of dealing with my mental health, And if it means I am not taking pills for Anxiety and depression, Sim racing really do help me deal with how my mental health helps me, Not a cure but sure beats getting pills and getting addicted to pills again, The pills that is used for Anxiety is the most addictive, Ironic that ain't it, lol, So for me sim racing equipment is not wasting money, lol, I say to the old dear, It is my hobby I do, I might make it big time racing as an old man, lol.... But yeah I am improving bit by bit, I think people are starting to even watch my laps on AMS 2, I always get people waiting to race with me so must be doing something right, I wish now I was in my teens again, lol, Can I ask as well, Not many people wants to answer me about it, Do you know if people in AMS 2 are cheating?, lol, Do you know if cheating is going on in AMS 2, I seen a few vids on people cheating in ACC, That is bad that is, If anyone can cheat at a sim racing game, Imagine what else a person will cheat at, You can never trust a man who is a cheat, lol.... Yeah I will be in the Quest 3 world next week sometime, The Quest 2 is good, Don't get me wrong still puts you in the car, But I am struggling to get the shimmer away sometimes I see on tops of fences ect, Don't get me wrong I can have properly high settings but I want more detail now, lol, Detail in car is fantastic but I want to have more detail now, I am getting faster every night, lol, then next month sometime I will get the loadcell pedals, I will leave my rig alone then until the 50 series comes out, I will grab a 40 series in a sale, The 50 series will be way out my range, lol.. But yeah since I put a DDR5 MSI Z690 in the PC with the i5 12600k, I am not kidding the the 12600k is a lot more snappier, Things loads instantly, It is good mind, lol, If the i7 comes down again, I will end up getting an i7 12th gen, lol.... Happy VR sim racing, Enjoy the Quest 3, When people start VR they rarely go back to the monitors... Oh yeah the BOBOVR air circulating thingy is great, It really do work or help the lenses stay clear....

[@colinmcauliffe-pp4si]

I have the quest 3 its great I recommend it if your thinking of getting a vr headset.

[@janneviinikainen7783]

I consider q3 as a downgrade. The optics are obviously better, but it just lacks in everything else. In comfort, battery, compression artifacts, latency etc. I prefer it for roomscale vr gaming for its wireless capabilities, but for sim racing.. hell no.

[@marathi22]

The biggest drawback of the Q3 is by far comfort. They do this deliberately to create a thriving 3rd party market. However, when fully modded, I'd say except for the extra weight, the headset is every bit as comfy as the G2. And if you have the hardware for it (4080, 4090), with Virtual Desktop you can stream just as well over wifi as over USB. Personally I suggest the D-link Air bridge which is specially designed for use with the Quest as a dedicated connection. I don't notice much artifacts, lag or stutters at all with my current setup. Sound quality is unfortunately pointless to compare, the G2 is best in class, while the Q3 is kinda bottom of the barrel.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@janneviinikainen7783 The visual quality with all settings in the occulas software fixed, is far superior to the reverb.

[@janneviinikainen7783]

@@aubreycolemanracing i disagree. Even at 960mbps the artifacting is very much visible in fast paced games such as sim racing. Road textures look like blurry mess. Also this high bitrate causes more latency, dilemma which I dont care to deal with.

[@marathi22]

@@janneviinikainen7783 The biggest game changer for me was going from my regular wifi6 router to the D-link Air Bridge for connection. Now I really can't tell much of a difference from my old G2 anymore. Virtual Desktop is the best route to go for Quest 3 imho.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@janneviinikainen7783 I purely sim race with it, and haven't noticed artifacting. Very happy with it.

[@tonygee3284]

Just stay on windows 10 and Reverb G2 will keep running fine for many many years They are also working on a mod for windows 11 also

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@@tonygee3284 November 2026 I heard.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

Its a horrid God Ray Machine that deserves the can asap. Worthless for night ops. My cockpit at night is one giant glare.

[@virtualinsanity2457]

But your games won’t

[@JoeBlowUK]

Hi mate, congrats on your upgrade. I noticed in your computer spec in the PC info below the video that you have a 4090, but in the video you state you have a 3090. Can you clarify as to which GPU you are actually using please.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@JoeBlowUK I thought I recommended at least a 3080. Anyway I have a 4090.

[@JoeBlowUK]

@@aubreycolemanracing Thanks for letting me know mate. It is at @10:32 you mention you are running a 3090. Slip of the tongue maybe. 🙂

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@@JoeBlowUK Definitely slip of the tongue! Thanks for letting me know!👍

[@OZ1967]

Hi mate , if can afford it , get yourself a deco Wifi 6 router even wifi 7 now , no cord needed and imo faster speed than cable using the in headset store virtual desktop along with the desktop streamer app. Okay after further into the video you already know this. 😊 The bobo head strap with fan. When the fan turns off you know what’s up 👍

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@OZ1967 I have a netgear orbinet mesh network, it runs 6E I'm pretty sure. I've see the recommendations for virtual desktop, and the benefits, and I think I'll have to try it. So does it loose any quality at all?

[@TheGreatRepeller]

The best upgrade Ive done yet in VR is the Q3 with Virtual Desktop. I came from an Odyssey then G2 and this rig is well worth the upgrade costs. For the first time really VR is pleasant for me in racing and flight sims where I can play the game without constantly trying to make it playable, lol. The Lenses put the God ray machine G2 to shame by themselves. That G2 really was a horrid device. In the Q3 you dont see all the mechanicals of the lenses either, its nice and clean with a very wide FOV. What really makes the Q3 special though is Virtual Desktop NOT LINK. Link on anything less than the Meta Fiber cable wont work well. The VDXR implementation of openXR is the best yet by far. Its like magic software. Instead of the Link Cable for $80 Id suggest a PrismXR router to go with Virtual Desktop on your Q3 simply to use VDXR.

[@cbinder46]

So you can still go cable free using Virtual Desktop and VDXR? The prismXR router is Wifi 6, will that even matter if I only plan to connect the Quest 3 to it and be with 5ft of it all times while in the headset? I primarily do seated VR.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

@@cbinder46 I only do seated VR as well and I went into this Q3 thinking I was gonna use Link for that reason. The quality of the cables I used was really bad so I tried 5 of them all bad rersults . I couldnt pay Meta $80 for theirs, lol. What set VD apart is the VDXR implementation they use. Nothing Ive tried in OpenXR comes close. The Router is what made it all come together. It has options for wifi and ap but I only use the Prism connection. I think its a 26 ft distance. I hear a good Wifi6 mesh will work just as good. It matters a lot. VD got an update yesterday that quashed the last of the major bugs and now it works a treat in every way. Most people dont use VD streaming bitrate setting correctly either. I never use 200. I use 100-130 because thats how it enables super sampling. So instead of god mode I use normal and a bitrate of about a 100 to SS back up to god mode resolution.

[@pringlewheel]

You didn’t consider a Pymax Crystal Light?

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@pringlewheel too expensive for me, at this time.

[@pringlewheel]

@@aubreycolemanracing Agreed. Shame, really. I’d love to stick with an uncompressed image. If I get another Meta product (I own a Quest and Quest 2) I’ll wait for the snap dragon 3 and see what that performance uplift is. In the meantime I’m screwed with WMR and my beloved G2V2

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@pringlewheel I'll mainly be using this q3 with link cable for racing, and will try virtual desktop. So I'm not worried about on board graphics.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

I just sent one back. It was total garbage. The Communists that run Pimax are the worst and deserve scorn.

[@virtualinsanity2457]

Heard some really bad reviews from KZbinrs about pimax issues and their customer service

[@tonygee3284]

Did you try the Pimax crystal light

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@tonygee3284 no, seem pretty good though, also bit worried about quality control, many reports on issues with them. Very happy with the visual quality of the q3, also got the q3 $250 cheaper.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

I did and it is garbage. Worst fitting headset Ive ever put on. You have to spend money on foam spacers which ruins the already low FOV. Pimax are imbecile Communists that deserve scorn not money. The quality is terrible in every way. You can see all the lens mechanicals in your peripheral vison. Over all a terrible product.

[@kennykrobs6935]

I love the Quest 3, only downside is the battery bleed even when wired. But none of my league races surpass 4 hours so no biggie. Just gotta remember to charge. Definitely better than the Reverb

[@kennykrobs6935]

I like the default strap 😁 I also picked up Zenni prescription lenses, fog proof too.

[@paulus1412]

Get an usb cable that also power the headset. I use the "Tiergrade 2-in-1 Cable". During usage it will even charge the headset if needed. So it will never run out of battery/power when simracing :)

[@kennykrobs6935]

@@paulus1412 Thanks for advice 👍 I was a sucker and bought the official $80 cable

[@TheGreatRepeller]

BoboVR M3 with two batts and charger for $75 on Amazon.

[@seebarry4068]

I just want an upgrade to my rift s at some point, that is wired and doesn't cost me a 1000 government lie bucks. I don't need wireless, storage or batteries. Just the absolute basics.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@@seebarry4068 Sounds like you need to keep the rift s!

[@sevenbelow7]

Its NOT a upgrade

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@sevenbelow7 Clearly you've not set it up properly.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

So far Since the Odyssey to a G2 and to the Q3 its the best VR upgrade yet by far. I got the Pimax Crystal Light as an upgrade to this but its going back because other than the oleds its worse in every weay.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

@@aubreycolemanracing Do you use the Meta Cable for Link?

[@aubreycolemanracing]

@Despiser25 Yes, also got a powered cable on the way, and will try virtual desktop when I get delivery of my bobvr s3 pro.

[@toututu2993]

More like a sidegrade