Is PSVR2 with PC Adapter better than Quest 3 for iRacing & Automobilista 2?

[@braintez]

I agree with you from a performance perspective, it's pretty much a wash between both. In the end, I switched to PCVR2 from Quest 3 for three reasons: 1). headset weight - to me, the PSVR2 being lighter doesn't cause a weight distribution issue between front and back of the unit. On my Q3, I didn't use a battery back because it isn't comfortable leaning back in my sim rig with a bulge at the back of my head. I can play longer on the PSVR2 as it's less strenuous on my neck. The cable isn't an issue for me as I also used a link cable on my Q3. 2). The ritual of setting up the Q3 for PC gaming - turn on headset, plug in link cable, enable Oculus Link, start Oculus Tray Tool -- at least 5 mins to have everything up and running (and if I skip a step and have to restart the routine, even more). With PSVR2 - start Steam VR, turn on headset -- 20 secs max. 3). Since I primarily use VR for sim racing, I don't even need to pick up the controllers. A couple mouse clicks and I'm driving, while with my Q3, you need to use the controllers to navigate the Oculus menus ... and no annoying pop-ups when the controllers lose tracking in the middle of a game! Long story long, there's a convenience factor that the PSVR2 introduces vs the Q3 that I don't think a lot of reviewers are really talking about.

[@MrNangu]

Just to point out you don't need the controllers in the Qest to play sim games, you can navigate the interface to enable link by using hand tracking.

[@braintez]

@@MrNangu Good point. I tried it maybe 6 months ago with mixed results, but admittedly haven't attempted it recently.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I don't have any issues that take me a long time with Quest 3. Once in link, enable desktop view, and you never need to use the controller in the session again. Why do you need to open Oculus tray tool?

[@benkraus3]

You guys need to get a dedicated WiFi 6E for q3 to connect to and lose the link cable. Use virtual desktop as well. Thank me later.

[@lawyer4ever]

@@benkraus3What he said. The best way to use Quest 3 on PC is wirelessly using Virtual Desktop. No controllers needed. I am in iRacing and racing within about 30 seconds.

[@thegambone]

Globular cluster has helped me with the sweet spot situation

[@forbidden76]

Amen. My PSVR2 would not be getting as much love without Global Cluster.

[@V8chump]

@@forbidden76looking to buy a psvr2… what is global cluster?

[@forbidden76]

@@V8chump A must have head strap for better comfort. Like all VR headsets they make much better than stock.

[@Capt_McNugget]

saved my forehead...would hurt like he'll after awhile. no padding..with Global Cluster I can play for hours

[@williamsaloka9043]

I have the PSVR2 on PS5 in my rig along with some haptic "stuff," and I'm happy as a clam! What an experience...

[@anonym8951]

GT7 with PSVR2 is a gamechanger for me.... absolut dream !

[@obscured021]

Use open XR and open composite and bypass Steam VR ; Steam VR is a performance hog and you will get anything from 20-30% performance increases .If you are using VD for your Quest 3 use VDXR and open composite, I go wireless on the quest 3 for sim racing using VD it looks better than quest link, to clear the lenses distortion on VR head sets you need to run them at 150% resolution or god mode in VD.

[@RacingPotato12]

This is the way! I'm glad to finally see a comment from someone who knows the correct way to run their Quest 3 on PC.

[@marcbabulenko8336]

Would virtual desktop help with the psvr2 as well?

[@BOTG_Adventures]

Agree iv jumped to OPenxr for ETS and ATS improved my frames a lot.

[@frankzappa2274]

(UPDATE) You do not need psvr2 controllers to launch your Sim games on PC. Simply open Steam on your monitor.. click start game And choose run with steamvr. No VR controllers necessary obviously just bind things to your wheel such as map reset VR position map to your wheel or spacebar etc. I am using the psvr2 adapter myself already.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

How you liking it for PC?

[@frankzappa2274]

@@thecasualracinggamer PSVR 2 It reminds me that every VR HMD suffers without OLED panels... The brightness and the colors are on another level. Critically tho I use a 4090 and honestly thought I would be able to push it farther With super sampling.. It's okay But not near as sharp as my Pimax8kx... However, I've used the Pimax Crystal And even that the colors and contrast aren't as good as the psvr2 OLED. In fact, I won't buy another hmd unless it's OLED.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

🙏

[@scottishgamer7210]

The scalpers are selling PSVR2 with PC Adapters for double price that's why it is sold out worldwide

[@befoot]

yeah that sucks

[@phil_5430]

This again??? I thought we are over this shi*.... Glad that I've randomly looked up on Amazon and surprisingly could order one (Austria)

[@rodriguezkev]

A shed load of PC Adapters have turned up on eBay, bloody scalpers.

[@soupnazi22]

You are one of the few people I've heard talk about the potential of GT7 in VR on PS5 Pro. I think people are not aware how good that would look if they are able to run it at native res and framerate. GT7 is the undisputed king in terms of car models, materials (especially interiors) and lighting. The only caveat is that it does require PD to update the game for this, which is not a given.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

GT7 made me a believer in the ability for consoles to run Racing Sims. Also, they have an advantage when it comes to VR implementation. For one, the simplicity of using it on a console and two, everyone is using the same equipment. They can optimize the heck out of it and push it to the limit that the system can handle. With PC, they have no idea what system people are using, so they need to give you 100 settings to play with and figure it out yourself. And then, you still don't know if it will run good.

[@giacintorenta7579]

I was disappointed by the graphics of GT7 in PSVR2 but if PS5 Pro can improve, I might upgrade just for this reason.

[@BillAshtonNelo]

It’s happening

[@Time4utube]

​@giacintorenta7579 not bad when not moving fast when just sitting in car details looks good for me anyway

[@Blueray930]

Cas i have been playing around for 3 days with my rtx 4070 set up for ACC and i was so frustrated it was so bad but glad to hear it is the game. I will just stick to GT7 on PSVR2 for now until AC evo comes out to try my luck again with the adaptor.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

You should give Automobilista 2 a try.

[@ledzhprivate]

F1 24 and ACC both poorly optimized for VR on PC with much shaking, Automobilista 2 works perfectly with psvr2, like a charm. From my opinion its same as in Gt7. Give it a try!

[@andrelip1]

The latency is way lower in the PSVR2 in 120hz but I think the image and lens were way worse than the Reverb G2. This difference in both points should be even more extreme with the Quest as it has high latency but better lenses. The latency is very underrated… It is lower than my 390hz display (I hit 150ms average in humanbenchmark).

[@Slyfox1775]

After using the controllers for awhile it’s extremely easy to pick up . Up front no . But after a few hrs it’s simple .

[@JunyuVR]

After watching this, I’m pretty much convinced that the Quest 3 is a must-buy for any gamer!

[@BillAshtonNelo]

I just want to race Sebring. So I’ll buy the adapter and iracing just for that.

[@BillAshtonNelo]

My thoughts exactly!

[@OblivifrekTV]

GT 7 needs to be on PC

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yeah!

[@FedericoCrozzolo]

definetly

[@davidshearer567]

Amen!

[@bioxeon5307]

I bought a second-hand PS5 solely for playing Gran Turismo 7. I didn’t even buy a DualSense 5 controller. In fact, I’m hardly willing to spend any more money on the PS5 (with its more expensive games, blurrier graphics, and lower frame rates). As soon as Gran Turismo 7 comes to PC, I’ll sell my PS5 without hesitation.

[@Guinea54]

One important thing you didn't talk about is field of view.. and it seems like the FOV on the PSVR2 has the best FOV besides those pimax headsets.. Someone recorded 116 Horizontal 102 vertical. Another thing is the blacks look way better.

[@MrCamel254]

the guy who recorded that is mrtv and hes full of crap lol. Hypes up every new headset so he can make money with his affiliate links. I have Q3 and PSVR2 and they have pretty much the same FOV. Quest3 obviously beats it due to its better lenses and therefor better edge to edge clarity.

[@danceoffAsh]

That is true, I always felt the FOV was so easy to adjust and was akin to my small FOV of my 8KX

[@anthonyorlando5766]

Yeah I agree

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I did not check this while I was playing because on paper, they are supposed to be equal. Guess I'll need to have a look myself. Nothing stood out that made me feel one was better than the other while just pkaying.

[@Guinea54]

@@MrCamel254 How did he hype anything up, he literally ran the FOV program test on both and recorded himself doing it. weird comment.

[@conyam3311]

Most people seem to agree turning off motion smoothing in SteamVR improves performance. It did for me and also seemed to improve sharpness and clarity.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I do have this turned off. 👍

[@carlosangalang]

Quest 3 wins over PSVR2 for AMS2 and Assetto Corsa. Ease of use, smooth 90 FPS with max graphics, sharpness and clarity. Took me 3 all nighters trying to get the PSVR2 to perform as well as the Quest 3 on my 4090 i9 rig to figure out why bother when the Quest 3 does it better

[@natevanderloon9060]

Gt7 is so good because the game was developed around the exact hardware you are using to play it. They cannot do that with a pc game.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Eye tracking is the savior to get PSVR2 running so good on PS5.

[@steffendetrick]

Very true that is a definite advantage because it’s better optimized for the hardware . The only problem with GT7 for me is it’s a little more Arcade then actual sim racer. That’s not a problem for everyone because there are a lot of people that prefer that over an actual sim racer.

[@FurBurger151]

​@@steffendetrick Have you tried it after the Update? I would hardly call it arcadey and definitely more of a sim. I really don't get this sentiment but just my opinion.

[@UniversalStand]

@@FurBurger151yep! Those days are over.

[@FurBurger151]

@@UniversalStand You know what I mean aye? It's got a pretty complicated Tyre and physics model now. All they need to improve is the ffb,Dailey race combinations and some VR quality of life improvements.

[@MRD0889]

The capability of using the PSVR2 on PC is what made me buy one and not upgrade my Quest 2 to 3 😅 The reason is, I love GT7 over all the other titles on my PC. So I'm on GT7 VR always and now when that adapter is back in stock I'll go to iracing for open wheel in Vr =)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

It's a great option that allows you to play on both and not need to buy another headset.

[@ZFCaio]

Depends on the games you like, of course I personally really like Mixed Reality and Standalone aspects of Quest 3, but for a huge fan of Gran Turismo 7, of course the PSVR2 is the best choice The only Racing Sim like I picked on Quest is VRider SBK

[@JoshGRacing]

The video we’ve been waiting for!

[@Foddergaming]

I have both a psvr 2 and quest 3, will use psvr for sit down games and quest for freedom

[@dathyr1]

First, I own a Quest 3 and had the device long before this PSVR adaptor was announced. I enjoy the Quest 3 for my SIM racing far as quality and performance. Note: I have a PC with an I7 processor and use a RTX-3080TI for my GFX card. All SIM racing games work well with my PC. I feel both the Quest 3 and the PSVR headsets are a great buy and should both perform very well with SIM racing. Now the PSVR maybe a little better suited for night racing in leagues because of the OLED lenses and give you better black levels. I guess the FOV is a little wider and the lens resolutions are a little better with the PSVR. All that said, I will still stay with my Quest 3 for my VR gaming. I have no need to purchase another VR headset at this time just for some minor bump ups in the specs. I am interested in seeing what the Quest 4 has to offer in specifications which is not supposed to be released for 1-2 years- that is if they make this product. I have tried several different VR products over the years and learned the Pros and Cons of each device. My previous VR headset was the Rift S and I look for VR headsets that have a nice FOV and a large lens sweet spot for viewing games. For those that don't have a VR headset or have money to burn. I would say either VR headset would be great to have for PC gaming. Just do your homework and watch allot of videos on the VR products. Last thing. Don't worry, there will be other newer VR products in the near future which maybe better than the Quest 3 and PSVR headsets. Developers are always trying to outdo each other in the VR Technology. Just think a month ago we were talking about the PIMAX Crystal light products. VR is moving very fast in this Technology. Thanks for your great video. Take care

[@thecasualracinggamer]

🙏 I love the Quest 3 for Sim Racing. I definitely wouldn't recommend buying PSVR2 if you already own the Quest 3. It's a great purchase for the adapter though of you already own PSVR2.

[@matthew263]

@@thecasualracinggamer what if you own a ps5 and psvr2 would it be worth buying the adapter and a pc to play ACC/WRC/iRacing etc in VR?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

@matthew262 - If you want to purchase a gaming PC, yes. iRacing is one of the best sims out there.

[@nicsos123gameplayita5]

I dislike using the Quest 3 for simracing. The compression causes occasional stutters in both audio and visuals. I've tried using it with a cable and even invested in a Wi-Fi 6E 6GHz router to test it with Virtual Desktop. While the visuals are clear, there are still occasional stutters. On top of that, the poor black levels are very noticeable when racing at night, which is quite annoying. That said, it's a great product for everything else. I've now ordered the PSVR2 with the adapter, as it was on sale for 380.-. I hope it performs better.

[@RTRT-de8vz]

Thanks for a great well rounded honest review

[@thecasualracinggamer]

🙏

[@benkraus3]

A huge upgrade to the Quest3 is running it wirelessly by connecting to a dedicated Wifi 6E router. Search for how to do this online - there are many forums and videos. The rez at 120 fps is incredible. And I’m comparing to the big screen beyond and varjo aero. The q3 beats them on smoothness and clarity. Could be a bit better rez but I’m impressed with what the q3 can do when not hindered by a cord. I agree the PSVR in GT is amazing what they were able to do graphically and I wish other games looked as good and smooth.

[@forbidden76]

Yes GT7 on PSVR2 is the best overall racing game on the market! And it just works...no fiddling with dozens of stupid PC settings. I cant get a PCVR game looking better no matter what I do with a 3080ti super rig.

[@simonoregan4744]

I switched from 9th Gen Intel to 14thgen with my 3080Ti & Quest 3. 13th Gen was recommended but it was out of stock. It made a huuuuuuge difference with my Quest 3 encoding on all of my sim titles

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

want to see a even bigger differance, get the pimax Crystal light... big time

[@huludical1]

I side graded to a amd 5800 x3d great for sims

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Nice

[@PhotoJohn80]

Thanks for the video. I think I’ll wait for the next valve headset, if it ever comes out lol, since I already have a Q3.

[@YMSimRacing]

Agree 100% with everything you said. The ACC experience in VR is horrible. No matter how I adjust the settings it’s crap. I have 7900 XTX and it doesn’t even go to 90hrz so I got to play on 120 and reduce quality so everything looks like NFS1

[@BOTG_Adventures]

MOst people do not know.. if you go into accessibility option in the q3 main settings there is a Contrast option... makes the blacks and screen crisp and pure black..

[@JayKBra]

Good share, much appreciated.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

🙏

[@ryanslats6764]

Psvr2 look like you sitting further back, the steering looks smaller than other headset.

[@emilianomontanari283]

if you have a 3080 or lower, psvr2 is better because the resolution achievable in AM2 is not ruined too much and the colors and fluidity (as well as comfort, field of view, blacks, the sense of realism of everything) are superior . If you have a more extreme gaming PC, then the psvr2 becomes a bottleneck in terms of sharpness and becomes unacceptable

[@the_normsk]

Not a PC gamer but got the adapter just to drive Road America in Automobilista2. Having trouble figuring it all out compared to GT7 and my hardware is pretty old but it satisfies for now.

[@EAX-n5n]

Hm interesting. Ive purchased a PSVR2 at first and after 2 days ive returned that one because it simply wasnt good, like the whole material chosen and manufacturing quality is awful. Colors and Contrast were totaly fine, OLED is superior in that regard but the lenses have had such a weird film grain, it was just ... meh. I picked up a Quest 3 instead and in terms of pretty much every single aspect (except it is a LCD), that VR is superior. What annoyed me mostly about PSVR2 was that none of those Playstation menues are designed for VR, it was extremly unsharp, text was a pure eye killer in terms of sharpness, the sweetspot of the headset was extremly small, no eyetracking, no controls with the VR, had to pick up the normal controller constantly and on top of that ive never had any kind of passthrough when needed, making it a extremly annoying device to use. It always took me up to 5 minutes to re-setup after a break, had to clean glasses, had to clean lenses... like that sunprotection literally causes sweat and fat and that is hitting glasses with ease after taking it off and then returning into it, the glasses would lay down the fat on them onto the lenses and so forth. Then geting the perfect fit of the VR on my head was a mess every single time, the sweetspot beeing so awful and the entire playstation menues beeing an unreadable pile of crap... nah. Ingame it was "Okay", but let me say it that way: if GT7 was coming to PC, then the console would be a useless piece of hardware, next to the PSVR2. The whole feeling of GT7 is literally the solely standpoint of Sony, as of why PSVR2 is a thing at all, because the hardware isnt capable of using native res etc.. neither is Sony providing the required qualities for VR. Its just a brand, with chinese made products and an uppricing of about 60% for sth that is way worse than the competitors.

[@ThePape78]

When I got my Bigscreen, I immediately noticed the much lower latency. I had previously used a Quest3 and Quest pro. Thanks to no compression and decompression and also because of the OLED display with lower input lag. Didn't you notice anything? For me, the biggest advantage is that you can drive more accurately.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I feel like I was driving the same between the two headsets. Lap times were consistent with each other.

[@ThePape78]

@@thecasualracinggamer ok. Perhaps the adapter brings also a bit latency

[@SargonDragon]

The difference you're feeling is real and meaningful. The remote streaming on the Quest 3 adds ~50ms of latency versus VR headsets using DisplayPort (including the PSVR2). It seems like many gamers can not discern this, but it's definitely there, and it affects game play results whether they notice it or not. In a racing simulator, it will feel to the driver like the car's suspension responds just slightly slower. We're used to adjusting to the car. It's what you do as a driver. But this slowness is coming from the Quest 3, not the simulation. The difference won't really affect your lap times in a way you'll be able to detect. The driver adjusts to it, so you'll still be able to achieve the same fastest lap. When nothing unexpected happens, the slower reaction time doesn't matter. You just put in your control inputs slightly earlier. The difference comes when you have to react to unexpected things. So when you're dueling another car or when the car slides unexpectedly. A faster reaction time is obviously going to give you an edge in that case. So to me, between the Quest 3 and PSVR2... they're pretty close in terms of overall display quality, but the difference in latency makes the PSVR2 the clear winner for simracing if you're competitive. I mean, this is actually something which _will_ materially affect your race results from time to time.

[@ThePape78]

@@SargonDragon Exactly. For me, on the Quest pro, for example, it felt like the suspension was softer on the same car.

[@heartbreak6384]

I was torn between the two and ended up buying the quest 3. It was terrible and then broke. Returning it and trying the psvr2

[@GuyX2013]

I was considering the psvr2 for pc but opted for the quest 3. Reason is that I don't believe Sony will continue to support it as windows continues to evolve . You only need to see how Sony has a track record of lack of interest in developing VR games since the first PSVR. Whereas the Quest you know for sure it will have support for many many years to come and aftermarket will continue to make accessories for it.

[@Purgiful]

Quest 3 pancake lenses are next level vs frenzel lenses. I'm sure everyone varies with their bonce but I can never find the sweet spot on my PSVR. In my Q3, while the colours don't pop, the display is clear. I'd never buy another headset with a frenzel lens.

[@clacky78]

Nice Cas, Lot of people are mentioning the FOV being noticeably bigger in the psvr2 on 1st person games. Does it make much difference in Sims? As you'd think that would be where you would want it as big as possible.. other than that like you say its really colourful areas and night time scenes people are noticing biggest difference, night time race would be a good test of the contrast, other than that i don't think its a massive difference

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I didn't look at a direct comparison of FOV as technically, they are supposed to be very similar. Nothing stood out to me from just playing. Maybe if I looked for it, something could be noticed, but not sure.

[@webdigit]

On the psvr2 I first played with ipd and noticed there was a nice gain between min-max ipd setting. At this stage I found psvr2 fov was larger than my pimax5k+ in small setting, somewhere between small and normal setting. Then I remembered that psvr2 top-right button to set the eye-screens/lenses distance and WOW, the effect on fov is much bigger than for ipd setting. With ipd set to my real idp and screens/lenses set to the closest to my eyes the fov is huge, similar to the pimax 5k+ normal setting or even a bit wider, which is already quite large. I wasn't expecting such a wide fov with the psvr2, I'm very happy I have bought the pc adapter. Need more testing due to performance issues (3080 here too) but the black/colors/contrast gain is so huge that I'm already almost decided to sell my 5k+ and keep the psvr2 as my only pcvr hmd.

[@JoTokutora]

My PSVR2 image is crystal clear. Nor I have the dirty effect you are dealing with

[@thecasualracinggamer]

The Mura is on every PSVR2 headset due to the filter they are using.

[@JoTokutora]

@@thecasualracinggamer I know about the Mura, I have most existing VR headsets including the Star VR One, Varjo etc... Is a none issue to me. Especially if you have experience with Oled headsets. The Mura is far better than the Pimax Oled, StarVR, and similar to the Samsung Odyssey. Oleds will always suffer with some kind of Mura. The Samsung Odyssey Plus had some and also had the diffuser layer like the PSVR2. However, the Image is so much clear now, of course due to the bump in res. Your eye sight quality will also affect what you discern of the Mura or the dirt effect. I personally do not like the Quest 3 image that much. I san excellent headset, but still LCD and very obvious LCD. It has its place, but as PCVR, no way, PSVR is a better choice over the Quest...for me

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Saying it doesn't exist in your headset and saying it doesn't bother you are two different things. It might not bother you, but it does exist, and it's something that should be mentioned to anyone looking to pick up the headset.

[@JoTokutora]

@@thecasualracinggamer I didnt say it doesnt exist. All Oled have Mura

[@MetalDeathHead]

@@JoTokutora higher resolution doesnt really matter when there is mura covering it

[@linzkirk]

nice vid, im gonna get the adaptor. But I agree with you ACC is terrible for VR which is such a shame. Lets hope EVO gets it right.

[@befoot]

thanks for the heads up...I have a PSVR2 that I use with GT7, I also have a Quest 2 that I sometimes use with iRacing (never really happy with the look though) might have to give this a shot when I can get my hands on the PC Adapter (PC has a RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 5 cpu)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

It's a nice upgrade over Quest 2 for PC.

[@lomicwind]

@@thecasualracinggamer cool ! I bought the adapter to see if I could replace my Quest2 since I have a PSVR2 on PS5 for GT7. Even if it is not an upgrade but equal I'll take it (PSVR2 is way more comfortable and light, and I am waiting the globular cluster kit to improve it a bit, Quest2 is so heavy on the front)

[@allmightyone]

I have a psvr2 recently, but somehow i dont know why.. i cant change my fov in ams2... i can change it, but nothing happen with the camera distances... some peoply have the same problem?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

FOV won't change in VR. It's already set to the headsets max.

[@MightyMikeVR]

I have a question regarding the compression you see on Quest 3. How high have you set your encode bitrate?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I usually run it at 500, and it looks great. Sharpening on Quality.

[@MightyMikeVR]

@@thecasualracinggamer Ok, thanks!

[@PeterDenTV]

@the casual racing gamer FYI I am running my Q2 on 1.2x resolution at 90fps with an RTX3080 and AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D easily with VR Perfkit. If you are using a Quest on iRacing, you NEED, like MANDATORY, to run VR perfkit and enable foveated rendering, else it's shitty. I run on the Oculus renderer just like you. You gotta do this. Like, for real.

[@oliviermorganti2839]

Today you have a pc and a PS5, any headseat but VR ready on pc (RTX4080 etc), what do you buy ? A psvr2(and adapter) or a Q3 ? Thanks :D

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you own a PS5 and PC and no headset, I would think the better buy would be PSVR2 since you can use it on both. If you are more interested in PC games and also playing wireless, plus playing stand-alone games without your PC, it's the Quest 3 that will offer all that.

[@EpicToastie]

Hopefully someone can answer this question. Near the beginning of the video he talks about having to find the controllers for the psvr2, is it just on the PS5 that you can press a button on the headset and see everything around you? Or does it work on pc and he didn’t know? Thanks :)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

It works on PC, and I did know, but I like to just reach to the side and grab the controller. Not hit a button for pass through, grab the controller, then hit the button to get back into the game. There is also a delay when going from pass through back into the game.

[@emilianomontanari283]

i have both and quest 3 image is overal better cause psvr2 mura, but psvr2 is overall more comfortable, no matter which quest 3 accessory i use…

[@carlosangalang]

Cas, if the only VR you do is PC sim racing, will it be the PSVR2 or Quest 3? I have both but I don't have the pc adapter yet and wanted to know if it was worth getting. All I do is do VR PC sim racing. I pretty much retired from GT7 ever since I opened myself up to almost all racing genres in AC and AMS2

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I like the sharpness and clarity the Quest 3 brings. Also, the better lenses. Some people might prefer the better colors, brightness, and contrast of PSVR2. I would have preferred if PSVR2 came with an LCD screen, but I think I'm in the minority on that one. For $60, it's almost worth it just to have as a backup in case something goes wrong with your Quest 3, but who knows, you might prefer it over your Quest 3.

[@AB-rq1rl]

Reverb G2 is still easily better for iracing.

[@davidalvarado3026]

Si ya poseo quest 2 deberia comprar el adaptador para usar psvr2 en pc?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you already own a PSVR2 headset, yes. The adapter doesn't cost that much.

[@nighttrain1565]

Idk why a private company hasn't released higher quality lenses yet

[@MrNangu]

Good review, thanks. Just a little question: Do you notice any latency related difference in gameplay given that PSVR2 is direct display port while Q3 is video streaming based? Thank you.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I am sure those who run tests will show more latency on the Quest 3, but if I can't feel it, I don't really care.

[@MrNangu]

@@thecasualracinggamer Thanks. I'm asking because I'm in the process to upgrade my Quest 2 which I use the most with racing sims, so trying to decide if I will get one of the two you reviewed on this video. I couldn't feel a difference in perceived latency between my CV1 and the Q2 so I'm wondering if the PSVR2 would have an impact on gameplay regarding latency or not because I'm leaning towards the Q3 for a more rounded purchase. Thanks again for your response.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

If you're running the CV1 through a display port, PSVR2 should be similar to that.

[@HDRGamingHub]

Quest 3 has almost double the latency compared to a headset with DisplayPort. I can feel the increased latency in sim racing, and it is terrible. I can't drive properly. You get about 30 ms motion-to-photon latency with DisplayPort and about 50-55 ms with Quest. I returned my Q3 and i got the Pico Neo 3 Link.

[@davidvincent380]

​@@HDRGamingHub +1 for the Pico neo3 link, great underrated PCVR headset ! Its only real flaw is the lack of comfort : I had to change the facial interface and add a headband

[@ZunaidMohsin]

For iracing and automobilista 2 which cheapest gpu would you recommend for a gt7 level experience? Thanks

[@thecasualracinggamer]

In VR? Honestly, when it comes to VR, you need to buy the best you can afford. I would not be looking for cheap when it comes to powering VR on a PC. You can get away with lower end GPUs with something like a Rift S due to its lower resolution, but if you want to push better headsets, you need better GPUs and CPUs. It's what makes GT7 on PS5 with PSVR2 so amazing. What they accomplised on the console and you not having to touch a single setting, it's hard to get the experience on PC with any lower end setup.

[@kwakes212]

is there compression with the quest 3 if its wired to the pc?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yes

[@tylerclout8175]

You can use passthrough to pick up controller

[@las549]

Is there a difference in field of view ? I have heard several conflicting reports of either headset having a bigger fov

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I'll need to check this myself. I did not look at that.

[@Woopass90]

Great review. I came up with exactly the same conclusion. I am sticking with my Quest 3.

[@Sunhinemoo]

I got the PSVR 2 and what's happening is that when I start IRacing everything is very blurry. It's playable but it really bothers me when it's so blurry. Is there a solution to this?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I've seen issues like this with my Quest. I just go out of the game and then back in, and it usually fixes itself.

[@graemacinnis1202]

I'm going to be honest, I don't understand what the complaints are around ACC in VR are about. I find it incredible. AC is better, and AMS2 even better than that, but I have zero issues with ACC. I'm running a Pimax Crystal on a 4090, so I'm sure that helps, but the only issue I ran into was I had to turn HDR off because it was just too saturated, looked like a comic book, off though, it's mint.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Maybe the minimum requirement should be a 4090 for ACC. 😁 AMS2 looks so much better than ACC in VR and plays 100x smoother, so ACC is definitely not optimized for VR users. Hopefully they can improve that in the next version.

[@graemacinnis1202]

@@thecasualracinggamer Yeah , AMS2 is fantastic. I'll tell you though, for straight feel, AC is untouched for FFB, and with the CSP and Pure is absolutely amazing visually, but it does require a lot tweaking, and it's also more of an offline racer.

[@MrBigpappaT]

I'm running ACC with a 3080 via VD with Quest 3. For me it's the best VR game in terms of detail and night racing. Was shocked when he said he went back to GT7 and found no downgrade. Made me question his opinion. ill wait for HAM VR's review.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

ACC is the worst VR racing game I have played, and it's something many folks have reported on in the past. GT7s graphics with reflections, shadows, and details are top-notch. The only thing really holding it back visually is the use of reprojection, but the only reason they can do what they do on PS5 is with the use of eye tracking.. They should release GT7 for PC. I think at 90Hz native, it would look amazing.

[@awakeandwatching953]

@@graemacinnis1202 i dunn0 i run vd open xr on pic 4 and race ac only at the min in lfm.. the online racing CAN be top notch.. how ever this is in part because i can tune AC down visually to run great.. couldn't get in t acc on a flat screen.. the ffb just felt lacking compared to ac and i found the tire pressure importance a pain.. will give it a shot in vr again once ive made some upgrades as im prepping foor ac ev any way

[@fabriciofontes2898]

Have you tried setting the PSVR2 to 120hz and then locking the game to 60fps? That way every frame should be displayed twice and it would look smooth enough.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I didn't. I prefer to run it natively if I can.

[@fabriciofontes2898]

@@thecasualracinggamer I'd give it a try, just to see how it goes. Going from 72 to 60 is not a big drop. It worked for me with PSVR1 on PC with the IVRy driver.

[@Coxy-b34]

@@thecasualracinggamer 60hz reprojected will look and feel better than 72hz

[@rarityd]

Today is 09/13/2024 and Best Buy website $50 and shipped to me in 3 days

[@squayssan5352]

Salut, j'ai le HP reverb G1, vaut il le coup que le remplace avec le psvr2 ? Pour du simracing, merci 😊

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I never used a Reverb, sorry.

[@irpk239]

Can you or have you done a video of iRacing with Q3 with a cord?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I have in past videos. The screen capture isn't really a true representation of what things look like in the headset though.

[@dwculler]

Do you have to use iracing through steam to use PSVR2 ? I use the iracing interface.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

You can get a free Steam Key if you use the iRacing interface. That is what I did. support.iracing.com/support/solutions/articles/31000165400-how-to-generate-a-steam-key

[@dwculler]

@@thecasualracinggamer Yeah I switched my iracing account from steam to the iracing platform, so just trying to figure out if i would have to switch it back to steam.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

You wouldn't be switching your account back to Steam. It's just a key to link your account to Steam, but your actual account will still be directly through iRacing. Your purchases still need to go through the iRacing app, not Steam. It just gives you the option to open the game through Steam if you want or the iRacing app.

[@adamx9987]

I wonder if the ps5 pro will enhance the pavr2 any?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Only if the devs continue to support PSVR2 on it and use its additional power over the standard PS5.

[@richnick1911]

I dont see why they wouldn't, they did with the PS4 Pro for the PSVR plus the Playstation will sell more headsets and PS5 Pros because of the enhancements. It's a win, win for Sony.

[@FirstLast-ge4yd]

will Automobilista 2 work on pc with PSVR1 ?

[@bassfacer1357]

GT7 does indeed look great, but it's just so lacking in such fundamental ways for a racing game which is why I'm saving for a PC to use my PSVR2 with instead. In GT7, the start-miles-behind-in-an-OP-car-and-blast-past-everyone format of the entire single-player campaign is atrocious, and for custom racing, there's no custom championship, no practice or qualifying, the AI don't use full throttle, rubberbanding STILL can't actually be turned off, you can't show/hide the HUD while driving (without having to go through a million menu buttons), you can't customise the HUD at all, most of the dashboard data in most cars don't actually work and are just for show, the rain is invisible, and the 'artificial intelligence' have zero intelligence or racing skill. I could probably go on! I'm just so ready to move over to racing games that are actually racing games. Sport mode is the only decent gameplay in GT7 (besides a few of the missions) and even that is super limited on content. THANK YOU SONY for liberating PSVR2-using sim racers from GT7!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

The single player AI is a comple a joke in GT7 and Sophy is not much better.

[@CCP-pb5ss]

same got my psvr2 and adapter..im not gonna use motion control..i got thrustmaster ts sparco the half life 2 vr mod is tempting..they say its waaay better than alyx..so eventually i'll try shooters but really i just wanna race and fly and try some uevr mods..none of those require motions controls

[@jdogofoz3642]

never sold out in Australia so wasn't all over the world 😂

[@thomas1988de1]

Iracing looks so Bad compared to GT7 with no mirrors, dynamic shadows and ps4 era looking tracks. I love(d) the sharpness and online racing but the outdated graphics killed the immersion for me. I also got the adapter but haven’t used it so far since I’m waiting for updates to wrc, ams2 or the official vr mode for LMU.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I didn't even try the mirrors using the PSVR2 headset because I usually have them turned off for the Quest 3. I feel like it always killed the frames. Wonder if it will play smooth with PSVR2.

[@pjellyme]

I'd like to answer your question, but the PSVR2 PC adapter is so hard to find that I'm starting to think it actually doesn't exist.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

LOL. Hopefully, they stock them up soon.

[@MetalSimVR]

Why do you drive GT3?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Why not?

[@magicfok]

For the lens... equals to Quest2 vs Quest 3...

[@lucianomicale1099]

Quest 3 with 72 80 90 and 120 hz and a 4090 wins all the way around

[@bumpsy2358]

Quest 3 is not even an upgrade from a pico 4 which is cheaper with more memory. I know I had them both side by side on a 4090 and wifi 6 at 1200mps. And it was virtually a tie. So I returned the quest 3. I have 7 headsets all together so I am not a casual with no experience with vr. Rift, Rifts, quest 1, quest2, Pico 4, Psvr1, and Psvr2. Owned and sold reverb gen 1, reverb gen 2, Odyssey 1, Odyssey2, and Valve Index.

[@lucianomicale1099]

I have an index and a g2 at home and now i own a 4090, i mainly played racing games and flight sims...the problem was to get a stable 80 or 72 hz experience, with the quest 3 i had a wonderfull result and now I also play meta games and use lots of fit apps, it is really an allrounder, only 90hz for me is a big limitation. With my g2 i played on 60hz and was good, but 72hz stable with pancake lenses on quest 3 is wonderfull.At least for me....if only meta have a direct pc vr adapter....

[@supercededman]

I can see reasons for getting the adapter, and staying with PC-only headsets. The biggest point of difference, i think, is that the VR2 is the only headset that use the libraries of both console and PC.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yes. It's such a win if Sony continues support for it on PS5.

[@k_mac3274]

if your graphics card has usb type c you wont need the adaptor

[@sumomo-x8v]

PSVR2 は　GT7 専用です PCVR は　meta quest3 で決まり

[@VSL_babyface]

i m surprised so many ppl have 4090 pc and a ps5 lol if i own one, i wouldnt want to waste money on the other 😂

[@justinmuntean7689]

If you own a 4090, you can afford a PS5 too [-)

[@VSL_babyface]

@@justinmuntean7689 doesnt make sense lol after u bought ps5, u can afford 4090 pc as well? lol double price?

[@MrAminmohamed]

I have a samsung odyssey plus and when supersampled at 210 percent the games looks crazy amazing. I am not sure if I need that psvr2.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

What's the FOV on that headset?

[@MrAminmohamed]

​@thecasualracinggamer the Vfov is much bigger for sure but nut horizontal it's 00 shapped

[@DreamingImDreaming]

Brother, quest 3 looks sooo much clearer, you won’t believe it at first. But, I really liked the oled and fov on Samsung odyssey+ ,it’s still the most immersive headset I’ve had. Psvr2 looks to be similar, but better in all aspects. Point is, there is definitely a reason to upgrade, to quest 2,3 or a psvr2, they are all better.

[@alh5470]

And just like that.. psvr2 is gud

[@glennablard5057]

I notice in iRacing that even though it is set to 90fps that on suzuka you spend large parts of it at sub 90 fps, i think i saw it in the low 70s, how have you got it running smooth still, when i drop below 90 it gets very choppy straight away! Any tips? Also what are you using to record from the psvr2? Great video btw! Subscribed!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I was using OBS, which always effects my frames in iRacing when I record. After the video, I ran an MX-5 race at Tsukuba, and it was a solid 90 the entire time. I don't remember if I might have changed any settings in the resolution setting it in iRacing after the recording in the video. I captured a lot of different iRacing clips, so not sure what settings were used with the footage in this one but OBS always seems to effect it. Recording with Nvidia GeForce usually has less impact.

[@glennablard5057]

@@thecasualracinggamer ah i was looking in the little fps thing in top right corner, which was moving i think, but yeah the stream Didnt appear to move at all! Looked very smooth!

[@glennablard5057]

Did you know if you xhange the encoding on OBS to software i think it stops the choppiness, its set as standard i think to use the gpu, so it fights for resource with the game, i read that somewhere and when i changed it, there was a significant improvement!!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yeah, I had it set to that, and when I started doing more GT7 recordings, I switched it back to Nvidia setting, which affects frames more for iRacing. I don't think I ever changed it back when I recorded the iRacing clips.

[@greatkingrat]

Re picking up the controllers when you cant see them on the PC. JUST PRESS THE BUTTON UNDERNEATH THE HEADSET FOR PASSTHOUGH! Sheesh!

[@thecasualracinggamer]

There is an annoying delay every time you click back from pass through. It still doesn't change the fact those things are annoying to grab. Even when I'm looking they are annoying to grab.

[@nachtraumom]

I don't think you understand what the resolution of the headset should be. Ever heard of frsnel lense of pincushion distortion?

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Not sure what you are suggesting. If you have a tip to share, share it. I never claim to be a VR expert.

[@nachtraumom]

@@thecasualracinggamer Fresnel lenses distort the picture. This is called pincushion distortion. Easy to look up. VR software compensates for this by rendering the image with an inverse barrel distortion. The downside of rendering with this barrel distortion is that the render resolution has to be higher than the native resolution of the headset. For most headsets, the optimal render resolution is 1.4 times the native resolution. The 100% resolution setting in SteamVR likely takes this into account. By using something like 60% resolution, you are in effect heavily undersampling the headset.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I got the number of 68% after searching it up, and that should be compensating for the barrel distortion. I thought maybe you were talking about something else. At 100% resolution in Steam, it said something like it was over 4,000 x 4,000 each eye.

[@steffendetrick]

i10 cpu ???

[@thecasualracinggamer]

LOL. i7, 10th Gen. The 10 was stuck in my head.

[@frishter]

Kind of hope the ps5 pro helps things out more. Been more interested in vr headsets recently and pondering options. Probably should have got a vr2 when it was on offer.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Yeah, the sale a few weeks back was a great deal!

[@emilybaxterthecartoonywitc1805]

And now GT7 is much better on the pro

[@deathboy68]

GT7 on PSVR2 is still the reigning king when it comes to racing sims and the Quest 3 doesn't even come close. The PSVR2 is simply the best headset available right now and as developers and modders begin working on PC games with the headset and haptic controllers in mind, it will remain that way.

[@MetalDeathHead]

that terrible mura though

[@deathboy68]

@@MetalDeathHead I don't notice it and from what I've heard from other expert streamers on the subject, all the newer games out for the PSVR2 don't have it anymore. I remember it was a problem for a lot of the first games that were released for it. but I didn't really notice it then, either.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

I'm not sure I agree with you about PSVR2 being the best headset right now for sim racing, but you definitely have a right to your opinion. It's definitely a good headset, though. Also, newer games will still have mura. It's not dependent on software but something physically in the headset. In GT7, I have learned to look past it, but that doesn't mean it's not there.

[@changseoklee466]

If you're not comparing through a lens, this kind of video doesn't help

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Through the lens is not an accurate representation of what you see either. Cameras alter images and colors. It also smooth things out and focus through things that your eyes might see. There is a lot that gets altered.

[@Chris-tu3xx]

I run a rtx 4090 and it is light years beyond the rtx 3090 for VR. In Automoblista,2, I run all settings maxed. In steamVR, I run 150% supersampling. This runs okay in steamVR link at foveated rendering about half because that's how I have it. But in Virtual Desktop, I run godlike visuals rtx4090, wifi 6 system maxed out bandwith for no pixelation, sharpness maxed, Snapdragon sharpening. in the headset, maxed out brightness and increased contrast in quest 3 and my eyes do hurt from brightness. Or I leave the quest 3 brightness maxed and in virtuaDesktop I have switched brights brigther and dark darker switch. There is no other headset that can match the clarity, no compression. I know what OLED looks like but the clarity is lifelike especially in automobilista 2. I run fps lowest settings and its fine. I don't notice difference running 90fps. Their is no other headset that can match virtual desktop sharpness technique combined with the sharpening chipset on the headset. The Visual is like 12k resolution per eye. No visual distortion from pancake lenses either. NONE! That sharpening technique is definitely godlike with no artifacts and this is due to the WIFI 6 system I have here at home and pc ethernet linked to the mesh wifi6 system. I'm still looking for a PSVR2 to pc linkbox so I can try it out but I know the only thing that I'll like is the OLED display and I know the resolution will suck! Without the foveated rendering and the Eye tracking of the PS5, it will definitely suck.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

The Quest 3 is very sharp even on an RTX3080 through a link cable.

[@Chris-tu3xx]

@thecasualracinggamer link cable was not sharp enough but it was fine.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

You need to turn sharpness to Quality in the debug tool. Made a huge difference in sharpness.

[@Chris-tu3xx]

@thecasualracinggamer yeah I have done that.

[@hollywooda111]

GT7 on PS5 destroys Automobilista.... If you have aPSVR2 just play that. Honestly.

[@emilianomontanari283]

not for somulation and realism

[@badhairday_247]

PSVR2 despite all the Emperor’s clothes crap is still a blurry experience and so a strong nope.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Are you on PC? What headset are you currently using?

[@Rehd66]

Why take up more screen space with you in it? Pointless

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Thanks for your opinion

[@billbaggins1688]

is this a comparison video on screen? WHICH IS WHICH. Sheesh.

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Huh?

[@WhiteHawk77]

Well, he has a recording of himself using each overlaid on the game recording so you can see the headsets. All you need is to know is how one of them looks to know the PSVR2 is on the left and Quest 3 on the right.

[@bearfpv6121]

@@WhiteHawk77 its not even the image from inside the headset its just the game streaming so its meaningless

[@markwilliamson3043]

no

[@DiegoCperdido]

Man dont play vr with virtual mirrors

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Usually, the mirrors hurt my frames with Quest 3 but I'll need to see how it is with PSVR2.

[@DiegoCperdido]

@@thecasualracinggamer yeah do what you want but still don't understand why people look for inmersion with vr but uses virtual mirror. Is sick

[@thecasualracinggamer]

No matter which mirrors I'm using, I still feel like I'm in a car. 😀

[@gomersimpson777ram]

its not better no, psvr2 is trash with fresnel lenses

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

short answer: YES!