UPGRADE YOUR BMW'S TRANSMISSION PAN | PPE Pan Installation DIY

Today we go in depth into my transmission's fluid service routine, the fluid I use, and the new PPE Upgraded Transmission Pan and its installation.
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[@WhiteBeardDetail]

How many gallons dis you use with that pan? Regularly they say 2 gallons. Bought the fluid before the pan now the pan is coming lol and i dont kniw if i got enough fluid

[@NoClutchGarage]

I used about 2 - 3 gallons

[@eskania]

Does it cool the oil better

[@JSarmiento.]

The metal transmission pan bolts are tighten at 12nm of torque. 10nm is for the the plastic units.

[@NoClutchGarage]

I was told by PPE to use the OEM specs. I’m not sure I’d want to go 12Nm (which I’m sure would be fine) knowing that metal expands with rising temperatures.

[@ureasmith3049]

They should add several magnets like the OEM has. INstead of just one on the plug.

[@intellectualme5000]

Any issues since the aluminum pan was installed?

[@NoClutchGarage]

None!

[@juice7661]

I heard the aluminum pan caused the engine to blow up!

[@NoClutchGarage]

You don’t use your brain much do ya? Lmao

[@juice7661]

@@NoClutchGarage I mean lil bud what do you want me to say? Bro's asking if a different oil pan has caused any issues. Like best case scenario you get a few degrees cooler or it takes longer to get to operating temperature, worst case scenario everything stays the same. Then some lil kid be like wondering if the the radio still works after the new oil pan. People do be like that idk...

[@NoClutchGarage]

The aluminum pan is on the trans. If anything was to blow up it would be the trans, but if it happened at all it had to have been installer error because I’ve been running this pan without issues.

[@sutphintuning9085]

Thank you for the shout-out, I love the video!

[@cwkchicky]

So new pan can't put in the magnet from oem pan?

[@NoClutchGarage]

No, it has a really strong magnet on the plug

[@jesusirizarry7346]

My F32 440i , is coming up on 69,000 miles ,,, is it safe to change. Oh I already lost the time to change it. Tremendous channel thanks for all you do and the input.

[@ஓம்நமசிவாய-ட9வ]

H, quick question.. did the plastic belly cover fit without any adjustment, was there enough clearance considering this aluminum version is deep? If you made some adjustment, please let me know where..

[@deacon_leon]

Thanks for another great video LJ 👍🏾

[@chewybacchus5918]

Did the belly pan fit back on with the deeper trans pan?

[@NoClutchGarage]

I had to cut a hole in the belly pan

[@brendenmoldy]

Nice video bro!

[@JSarmiento.]

Never never never, drain your oil without cracking your fill plug first....

[@MechaniclifeJDM]

Wise comment Only experience teaches that sort of thing well

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

Yup. I was changing my trans pan and fluid on my BMW 428i and I had this in mine going into the service and very very good thing I did. That plug was so hard to take off because you can’t get a big enough ratchet in there that’d break it free. My craftsmen 3/8 flex head ratchet with enough persuasion knocked that thing off and the rest was easy. The darn cat is in the way of the fill plug a little, a lot actually, and I burned my hand putting the full plug back on after filling up to operating temp.

[@i679n5]

I agree with you, but it only helps you when you have issues with opening your fill plug. Issues with tightening the drain plug will make you end up in same situation.

[@Kazarak]

Hey man, watched a couple of your videos, well done, I’m doing this exact pan upgrade and adrenaline fluid change based on recommendations from a tuner also. I saw another video, just to clarify they want you to get the transmission temp to about 40c after the first fill then fill it some more. But also the guy added fluid while the engine was running not sure if that’s a mistake or procedure because fluid likely will get pumped in and circulated while the engine is running or only when the transmission is moving? Thanks … out of Tampa FL

[@NoClutchGarage]

Yeah you do a cold fill, then you get the trans up to temp, run through the gears as much as you can to get the fluid moving throughout the whole trans, then fill again while the car is on. It’s a multi-step process.

[@businessmindsetink.5252]

Just checking in, no issues or leaks with the torque specs? Going to get mine installed soon

[@NoClutchGarage]

None!

[@ericdavis9616]

Will this work for 2011 x5 e70???

[@damians8498]

Does changing the fluid prematurity ( 10-30k miles) impact longevity? Its common to hear to not change fluid until 100k.

[@NoClutchGarage]

So changing it prematurely will not have the same effects as if you were changing it late. Reason being that over time the transmission will release friction material from the clutches and such that eventually become part of the fluid. What this means is that the fluid viscosity is now changed because of the added friction material and that material itself also helps the transmission grab the clutches and operate as intended. When you flush that fluid you’re also flushing the friction material that by then the transmission has adapted to and thus it loses the viscosity it used to have and can cause clutch slip as the excess clutch material is no longer there to help with that job.

[@bryansantos2465]

Have a bmw 428i with 88k miles not sure when the last transmission fluid flush was done should I keep driving it? If so for how long or should I change the fluid?

[@i679n5]

​@@bryansantos2465most likely never done since BMW claim it does not need change. 80 K miles sounds like a good time to change trans-fluids.

[@mikegalvin4655]

My 328d has 165 k the oil was never changed what should I do this mecanic say do not touch it why is that

[@orlandoperez3006]

could it be used on a daily

[@marwansherin]

great video, how long did you drive on the older trans. oil before replacing it, please?

[@seminky5341]

Bmw: lifetime. No need to do anything. Recomended: every 65k km. What i do: 100k

[@JoeMuster-t3h]

Delaney Glens

[@MGbossf36]

Is hotshots fluid better the liquid molly transmission fluid?

[@NoClutchGarage]

YES

[@josephbrown3647]

Nice video I want this kit for my bmw 320d F31. Also I'm planning on getting hot shots secret transmission fluid also. How you liking the hot shot secret products? I've tried the diesel extreme and about to use the stiction and fr3.

[@NoClutchGarage]

Their stuff is honestly very good. I have not had any issues with this at all

[@damians8498]

How do the magnet placement and count compare to oem?

[@NoClutchGarage]

There is a single strong neodymium magnet on the plug.

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

Can you drive like 100miles then drain and fill again? Like 3x 4x ?with that new fluid?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Why would you want to do that?

[@ureasmith3049]

Yes, he only got about half of the fluid changed.

[@BeLikeLong]

Any issues with it hitting the parking release?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Not at all

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

Bro you still using this pan?

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

How did that fluid work out?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Great! I’m still using it.

[@Kazarak]

need advice - :D So I finally got around to removing the old pan, and started installing this one... at time stamp 12:26 you reuse the round cylinder spacers from the original pan to the new pfe one, So not sure whats up but they are so tight I cant get them in. I tried to tap-em in, and don't want to crack the pan. Not sure what else to do. It's like the hole sizes are too small to accept them. Thoughts?

[@Kazarak]

Just measured with Calipers sleeves are 0.50" Holes are 0.47/0.48" wtf should I contact PFE?

[@NoClutchGarage]

@@Kazarak that’s odd, I didn’t have any issues fitting those. You could contact PPE or you could take matters into your own hands and get a drill and bit to widen that hole a bit.

[@Kazarak]

@@NoClutchGarage Ya I sent a ticket in to PFE gonna see what they can do. I might just go ahead and drill em. I don't have a press so it would have to be a hand drill. Thought about cooling the sleeves and heating the pan up with a propane torch also.

[@Kazarak]

I just drilled em all out and sanded, 2 hour project turned into a 4 hour project. lol

[@kjhnsn7296]

Yeah, here's a thought, what a waste of money and time. A PAN "UPGRADE"? Laughable.

[@jcoletrain7802]

What site did you get the directions off of

[@NoClutchGarage]

There is a pamphlet that they include with the pan

[@technopro-kz4xv]

Hey there! Nice video 😉👍🏼 my car has currently 45.000 miles… (440i Gran coupe F36) would be 60.000 miles the best time to change my fluid and upgrade my oil pan? I don’t push my car hard.. it is only my daily driver!

[@NoClutchGarage]

If you want to upgrade your pan along the way then yes that would be the time to do it. 60k miles seems appropriate to me for a trans service for sure.

[@technopro-kz4xv]

@@NoClutchGarage thanks for your advice. I will do that. 😉👌

[@damians8498]

Its been a minute. Still recommending these tran pans? Ive read some horror stories due to inconsistent fluid availability and slipping/ burnt clutches.

[@NoClutchGarage]

I have been on this pan for about 2 years now, yes I recommend it. I think the horror stories come from people who did not install the pan properly.

[@ir655]

This is not your old regular auto tranny. You can do a full flush if you use correct Lifeguard 8 fluid which has friction material in the oil (thats why its imperative to shake the bottle well before using).

[@NoClutchGarage]

Yah brah, I’m not doing that on a tranny with these many miles. Adrenaline SS is a miracle worker on transmissions, so I think I’ll stick to this.

[@Respect_N55]

🤣🤣🤣 smart man

[@nathanb5840]

Will it work with an F30 340i Rwd?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Yes

[@andrxito]

great video! I've been on the fence about this. Have you ever actually checked transmission temps? It would be cool to have a before and after of some sorts. I myself don't check these so I'd understand if you didn't either... This is still one of those "peace of mind" jobs I'll be doing

[@NoClutchGarage]

I have monitored them in the past but I typically don’t unless I’m racing. I’d say typically you’d expect temps up to 210°F and the pan may definitely help keep those temps down especially in cold weather. However, I suspect the temps are lower on average rather than just automatically lower, if that makes any sense. The best way to deal with temps is to close loop the system and add a transmission fluid cooler up front.

[@damians8498]

​​@@NoClutchGarageafter doing some digging I'm thinking if mostly doing Highway driving then this ppe pan is probably a useful upgrade but if there's track use or canyon runs or any continuous spirited driving then this pan may do more harm than good. Same size pan surface area but more fluid and the increased fluid in that space will actually retain heat more. The Inpower version may be the better option.

[@ureasmith3049]

@@damians8498 Nonsense. The increased sumps help (slightly ) in bringing down temps, both in engine oils and transmissions.

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

Bro i bought everything lol now im sitting here and thinking can i use the adrenaline ss for a drain and fill? Waiting for your response until i change fluid lol merry xmas btw

[@NoClutchGarage]

Yeah that the only fluid I use nowadays besides Amsoil Signature

[@WhiteBeardDetail]

​@NoClutchGarage I meant like mixing it with the old oem fluid that I can't drain, would it be OK to mix new hotshots with it?

[@NoClutchGarage]

@@WhiteBeardDetail yes that is ok. Just drain as much of the old fluid out as you can

[@NguyenFamandChavez]

you didn't wait for transmission temp to get to 40-50C before doing the refill?

[@NoClutchGarage]

I did? I don’t think the video is an accurate representation of time in reality

[@NguyenFamandChavez]

@@NoClutchGarage i see i must have miss that part.

[@JordanAda-l8k]

Bailey Land

[@bryansantos2465]

Have a bmw 428i with 88k miles not sure when the last transmission fluid flush was done should I keep driving it? If so for how long or should I change the fluid?

[@JSarmiento.]

Never tighten bolts on aluminium parts without using torque wrench at the right spec...

[@NoClutchGarage]

Everything is done to spec.

[@Nakinakpgm]

Hello. I don't agree. A full flush won't cause any issue at all. I did, not any trouble after thousand and thousand kms :)

[@NoClutchGarage]

It will but ok

[@spencersinger3209]

If it’s a high mileage auto it’s better to do 50/50 (old/new) fluid. If it’s super high mileage with no maintenance history most techs won’t even risk changing the fluid. The material in the fluid actually helps the clutches. 👍

[@ProcTech]

If you do research, you'll see many who have done full flushes then complain about slipping.

[@NoClutchGarage]

I couldn’t have explained that myself any better than this!

[@Nakinakpgm]

@@ProcTech You know better than ZF ? I guess no :)

[@raldyjimenez3319]

How do you know exactly the amount of trans fluid put in was enough or not?

[@NoClutchGarage]

When it begins to drip out of the pan through the fill plug hole. The OEM capacity is 7qt but realistically you’ll only use 5qt during a service. However, this pan holds about 1.5qt over OEM so you’ll use closer to 7qt for this particular service. If you add a transmission cooler that fluid volume will be even higher.

[@killahboii]

Now why would someone want to replace their perfeclty fine oil pan nice video though

[@NoClutchGarage]

If you watch the video it tells you why.

[@ProcTech]

When doing a transmission service, you need to change out the filter which is part of the pan. So no, it's not perfectly fine lol.

[@Glock274Jimmy]

A perfectly fine plastic pan that can take a rock or stick from the road and break, has a drain plug in a bad place, no cooling fins and no replaceable filter. Hmmmmm. That PPE pan takes a little extra fluid, but there are several reasons why your fluid will be much happier in this pan than the plastic one (aluminum pan helps with heat too). Buy the PPE. It's cheaper than the junky OE one that you can't even replace the filter on!

[@Veyron640]

14:00 - Full Flush Talk You guys dont do a "Full Flush on a transmission". You said. NOW, what is this I'm watching? Full flush? yes , no?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Full flush would mean that you take a machine which forces all the fluid out of the torque converter, and all the channels inside of the transmission. What I’m doing here is drain and refill.

[@se7en942]

Will this work on 2020 x4 m40i b58TU?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Engine is irrelevant. If it has a ZF8 it fits.

[@se7en942]

Thanks!

[@sunvolt333]

Is aderniline ss good for a non tuned non modified bmw?

[@NoClutchGarage]

Yes!