Upgrading from Windows 1.0 to Windows 7 on the $5 Windows 98 PC!

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Michael MJD

Michael MJD

4 жыл бұрын

Here's a much longer video that may come in handy for those looking for something to watch. Stay safe out there everyone!
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Today we're going to be attempting to install Windows 1.0 on the 98 PC and upgrade all the way to Windows 7. Let's see how far we can get!
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@docholliday9058
@docholliday9058 4 жыл бұрын
"Not enough memory to run Paint" is such a Vista thing for an error message to say.
@paulstelian97
@paulstelian97 4 жыл бұрын
The technical reason is NTVDM is configured with too little memory to actually be able to run it (NTVDM is a fucking virtual machine that is hardware assisted)
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
Doc Holliday hey!
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
Pizza Time ???
@streamingamongus3606
@streamingamongus3606 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dr-Random faker.
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
Switched Galaxy exactly.
@Fortuna1
@Fortuna1 4 жыл бұрын
This pc now passed for lots generations in 1 hour
@expressfax5420
@expressfax5420 3 жыл бұрын
Bro what did you think its strong as Nokia 3310 3410 :)))
@expressfax5420
@expressfax5420 3 жыл бұрын
Long live win98 hehe
@ducksonplays4190
@ducksonplays4190 3 жыл бұрын
8 bit max integer :o
@HeenaPatel253
@HeenaPatel253 3 жыл бұрын
FortunaChan shit
@pepeshki
@pepeshki 3 жыл бұрын
@@platy_da_fish5283 It's called editing.
@saturniunyttech679
@saturniunyttech679 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda fun to see how much Windows has changed since Windows 1.0. we went from only having a basic colour as the backgroundto having the ability to change the alignment of the taskbar icons and start menu, changing the desktop icons and basically having another computer inside your own in Windows 11
@jonothanthrace1530
@jonothanthrace1530 Жыл бұрын
Alas, customization probably peaked before 7.
@tapafon_red
@tapafon_red Жыл бұрын
In Windows 10 we had Sandbox as well. And Hyper-V was introduced in Windows 8 (excluding server editions in ~2008)
@veto_real
@veto_real 11 ай бұрын
and bsods from enchantment table language to :(
@QuantumScratcher
@QuantumScratcher 8 ай бұрын
@@veto_real the early windows "bsods" were not actual bsods - they were just "Incorrect DOS version" followed by the contents of memory for debugging if a fatal error ever occurred, the early versions would just hang or exit out to dos edit: pluralisation corrections
@manhvu4988
@manhvu4988 8 ай бұрын
@@jonothanthrace1530 before 8**
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be ironic that the Windows 98 PC could not install Windows 98?
@HeenaPatel253
@HeenaPatel253 3 жыл бұрын
Windows NT Workstation 4.0 With Internet Explorer I would have just throwed away the pc
@doesntexist09
@doesntexist09 3 жыл бұрын
You’re my favorite os!
@verzionhorizon
@verzionhorizon 3 жыл бұрын
@ComedyTV im going to throw you out of the window if you dont say sike
@doesntexist09
@doesntexist09 3 жыл бұрын
Uhhh sike!
@verzionhorizon
@verzionhorizon 3 жыл бұрын
alright you have been spared from 100 world wars aganist you
@ledchickenfpv7164
@ledchickenfpv7164 4 жыл бұрын
I've been around PCs since the beginning, but I didn't realize Windows 1.0 was ever released. I do remember 2.0 coming out and being referred to as the "first usable" Windows in the Windows 3.x Era, but I was not aware that 1.0 ever made it to public release... learned something!
@jdbb3gotskills
@jdbb3gotskills 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 28 so I grew up with Windows 98 and mostly XP and I’m still in awe that people used computers with DOS. Windows 3.x must’ve been revolutionary to witness. Plus MBs was were the storage size. I remember 1gb being big and by the time I was a teen 500gb was huge. Now TBs are starting to not be enough. Crazy how storage sizes have changed.
@nappeywappey
@nappeywappey Жыл бұрын
In my country windows 2.0 was the first ever Windows release, maybe it was also the case in your country?
@ledchickenfpv7164
@ledchickenfpv7164 Жыл бұрын
@@nappeywappey I thought so, but this video made me wonder. I remember Windows 2.0 being basically a GUI menuing system running on top of DOS, and there were a few applications that ran on top of Windows 2.0, but like I mentioned, I was not aware of Windows 1.0 ever being released to the public, but it's possible that it actually was and I just never became aware of it. I was in the U.S. when personal computers first started to really catch on and do not remember Windows 1.0 ever even coming up in conversation and since I was around quite a few people who were on the bleeding edge I assumed I would have heard of it or seen it if it had been publicly available. I do still remember being told about what a mouse was in the early 1980s, but didn't fully get it at the time. It was a few years later that I got hands on experience with Windows 2.0 and first laid my hands on a mouse, because there was software the name of which I can't recall at the moment that was referred to as a "desktop publishing" that required Windows 2.0 and since I was the computer operations manager at an Insurance firm, it was my job to get it set up to use for the person who was going to be using it. Anyway, if Windows 1.0 was released to the public, I would expect it would have been in the U.S. so maybe it was and I just never became aware of it. Seeing how little software there was that used Windows 2.0 when I was working with it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just more or less ignored by most users because of how little usefulness it actually brought to the table.
@nappeywappey
@nappeywappey Жыл бұрын
@@ledchickenfpv7164 Yeah, windows 1.0 and 2.0 were a big failure. Windows 3.0 was the first windows version that was a success
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju Жыл бұрын
@@jdbb3gotskills I remember having a 500 MB thumb drive thinking how could anyone ever fill all this space 😂
@hugosimoes5119
@hugosimoes5119 4 жыл бұрын
Next... Windows NT 3.1 -> NT 3.5 -> NT 3.51 -> NT 4.0 -> 2000 -> XP -> Vista -> 7 with all the drivers... chipset.. vga... sound.. pnpisa ... etc
@BaggyCEO89
@BaggyCEO89 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!!
@FrezzyYT
@FrezzyYT 4 жыл бұрын
NT 5.0
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 4 жыл бұрын
A.k.a. Windows 2000... Yes, it was simply called NT 5.0 while in development, but that could be the subject for a separate video.
@extremeboss5282
@extremeboss5282 4 жыл бұрын
What about Windows 8
@MarkProsXD
@MarkProsXD 4 жыл бұрын
@@FrezzyYT nt 5.0 is beta, windows 2000 is real nt 5.0
@BradenBest
@BradenBest 3 жыл бұрын
"wow, this is code written in 1985 and it still works 30 years later" X11: am I a joke to you?
@connerlucas8277
@connerlucas8277 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jpHasABadHandle
@jpHasABadHandle 3 жыл бұрын
X11 is such a monolithic mess
@BradenBest
@BradenBest 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpHasABadHandle true
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpHasABadHandle ... and Windows ISN'T? Dear God, some people have drunk way too much of the MS bathwater!
@LZ4COMPRESSION
@LZ4COMPRESSION 3 жыл бұрын
x11 is held together by chewing gum and twigs but wayland isnt that stable yet so it'll do
@NightimeDemon
@NightimeDemon Жыл бұрын
This brings back memories. There's an interesting thing to note about the Windows 7 upgrade editions. They were made to work with Vista, and, as we've seen in this video, they do. But a lot of people were coming from XP. Upgrade editions mentioned that they work with both, but this wasn't quite true in practice. Upgrade editions that detected XP would refuse to actually install 7 as an upgrade. You actually had to do a complete reinstall. And worse, you go through all that, then try to activate your upgrade license to find that it doesn't work because it didn't count nuking XP as an upgrade, even though you didn't have much choice in the matter. You could actually have your cake and eat it though. Upgrade licenses have a trick to them that may or may not still work today. But back in the day, you do your steps with a fresh, non-upgrade install of 7. But when it's done, don't bother with activation yet. You reinstall again with your upgrade disc, picking the upgrade option! So you upgrade from Windows 7, to Windows 7. A waste of time, yes, but when the upgrade part is done, you can actually activate it. How did we find this out back in the day? Lots of people went through this during the era, where lots of people were moving from XP to 7 and bought upgrade editions because they were cheaper and were coming from either XP or Vista. You went searching on the internet about it because you upgraded from XP to 7. Upgrade license said it works going from XP to 7. Why doesn't it work? And you find out that that was how to do it from others who had the same problem. Fun times. Also, some stores didn't even have non-upgrade versions on sale. I recall never seeing them at my local Best Buy at the time. And besides, if you already had XP or Vista, why pay more money than you had to? The final kicker is that this trick also works for fresh installs done with an upgrade edition with no previous version of Windows installed beforehand. Not sure if it ever actually stopped working.
@CoTeCiOtm
@CoTeCiOtm 4 жыл бұрын
Over an hour of Michael MJD? My quarantine just got a million times better!
@ethanrushbrook3314
@ethanrushbrook3314 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Spoudey
@Spoudey 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@minecraftcucezar7119
@minecraftcucezar7119 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is better than an hour of Windows except God but yeah...
@evantdms
@evantdms 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@AnimalFacts
@AnimalFacts 4 жыл бұрын
How about doing the different versions of OS/2 on it?
@deadchannelleave2225
@deadchannelleave2225 3 жыл бұрын
that would be a good idea
@Lightnings757
@Lightnings757 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 10
@CNETech
@CNETech 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lightnings757 I don't think Windows 10 is a version of OS/2.
@michealpersicko9531
@michealpersicko9531 3 жыл бұрын
@@CNETech Nope Windows XP to the latest version of Windows 10 are all NT based. Now if he were to install a 32 bit version of windows 10 then he might be able to install it using Windows NT DOS Virtual Machine but you're not natively installing it to the computer at that point only onto a DOS VM(its worse than DOSbox would not recommend to do so from first hand experience it's shit.) Plus OS/2 was really an IBM OS Microsoft was only really there to help with DOS integration and to have some sort of decent GUI for DOS once windows 1.0 hit the scene Microsoft stopped active development for it as soon as windows 1.3 came out. Then microsoft started to slowly phase it out in the windows 3.1 98SE era until it fizzled out completely in 2000.
@DjTonioRoffo
@DjTonioRoffo 3 жыл бұрын
@@CNETech Windows NT was heavily based on OS/2 ;)
@thatETTYT
@thatETTYT 3 жыл бұрын
i just wanna remind you that you just watched 1 hour of installing windows
@saghwteam
@saghwteam 3 жыл бұрын
At this point I've spent over 11 hours of my life watching windows getting installed on this channel. I've replayed the videos so many times.
@cocacola4132
@cocacola4132 3 жыл бұрын
@@saghwteam holy shit- thats a lot
@braulioacosta6816
@braulioacosta6816 3 жыл бұрын
Joke's on you, I played it on x2
@codesavage3763
@codesavage3763 3 жыл бұрын
thanks i think im officially crazy
@Ibrahim-fs5dj
@Ibrahim-fs5dj 3 жыл бұрын
In didn't I just skipped
@pawer_themaw
@pawer_themaw 2 жыл бұрын
I always love when he changes the theme. Also, can we just talk about how that old PC could succesfully upgrade with NO memory and CPU issues?
@GTFour
@GTFour Жыл бұрын
Yes we can talk about that.
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo 6 ай бұрын
@@GTFour *....but nobody came Yes I am an undertale fan you'd ask
@Twiddle_things
@Twiddle_things 3 ай бұрын
​@@breadtheloaf-tr1lo what
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo 3 ай бұрын
@@Twiddle_thingsI forgot lol. I had no idea what I was thinking.
@crasheffort
@crasheffort 4 жыл бұрын
This was a good example of how finicky it was to upgrade your pc back in the day. I had to reinstall windows many times when it would mess up, and had to upgrade from previous versions since I always had upgrade versions.
@devilzwishbone
@devilzwishbone 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the shutdown feature worked on newer versions of Windows is because it will be running a shell command (which sends a command to ms-dos) most likely carrying out a shutdown /s command which will instruct the operating system to shutdown and power off the computer
4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome work. It really shows how much work Microsoft has put into backwards compatibility feature.
@somerandomperson1223
@somerandomperson1223 4 жыл бұрын
Shortcuts 4:56 windows 1.0 No Windows 2.0 and 3.0 17:40 windows 3.1 27:40 Windows 95 33:25 Windows 98 39:30 Windows Me 44:45 Windows XP 53:45 Windows Vista 1:04:40 Windows 7
@vukristic
@vukristic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rozivector1999
@rozivector1999 3 жыл бұрын
No Windows 2000
@somerandomperson1223
@somerandomperson1223 3 жыл бұрын
he never did windows 2000 and instead went to ME, the other ones failed
@koseki_stuff
@koseki_stuff Жыл бұрын
I knew I would find one of these comments
@smartninja3651
@smartninja3651 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomperson1223 yes but they may still want to watch them even though they were failed attempts
@MattGreencompguy5
@MattGreencompguy5 4 жыл бұрын
Can we throw the $5 Windows 98 PC a birthday party in May?
@QuincyBTD
@QuincyBTD 3 жыл бұрын
I hope
@QuincyBTD
@QuincyBTD 3 жыл бұрын
It’s June...
@rhyhwdwc4777
@rhyhwdwc4777 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuincyBTD that was said 1 year ago
@goose1168
@goose1168 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno
@goose1168
@goose1168 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhyhwdwc4777 so?
@noahbeaudin6478
@noahbeaudin6478 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest upgrade video of all time! I Love your content, Michael!
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
11 out of 10
@NotReallyFantaOwned
@NotReallyFantaOwned 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr-Random Wiki says these are your versions: Windows Server 2008 Windows Mobile 6.0 Windows Mobile 6.1 Windows Mobile 6.5 Development history Criticism Mojave Experiment
@NotReallyFantaOwned
@NotReallyFantaOwned 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr-Random oof
@NotReallyFantaOwned
@NotReallyFantaOwned 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr-Random true
@parzival1608
@parzival1608 3 жыл бұрын
windows 10 supports the intel celeron. my grandma has a mini pc with a intel chipset + celeron running win 10
@Dondeath
@Dondeath 3 жыл бұрын
That is true. But I believe that's just a newer chipset they call a "Celeron". I had a laptop that had the same kind of processor. But I couldn't install Windows 7 no matter how hard I tried. Just too new :(
@gravity_itself
@gravity_itself 3 жыл бұрын
Intel has used the Celeron name for their lower end processors made from 1998 all the way to 2019 and most likely the foreseeable future. The chip in that mini pc and the one in this 20 year old desktop are based on completely different generations of chips and chipsets so although they share the Celeron name, they are very different chips in terms of performance and compatibility.
@imemes6620
@imemes6620 3 жыл бұрын
Can it run fortnite
@remaster95
@remaster95 3 жыл бұрын
There are many different celerons on numerous different chipsets
@sangeloo
@sangeloo 3 жыл бұрын
@@imemes6620 I don't think so, Minecraft would be a better play...
@Tom-yu9if
@Tom-yu9if 2 жыл бұрын
This video really drives home how annoying windows 11 requirements are. If I want to install Windows 11 on a potato I should be able to. It never used to bother them
@computerkid1416
@computerkid1416 4 жыл бұрын
11:37 The same exact thing happened to me when loading Windows 3.0 setup. Apparently, it has something to do with you trying to install to /windows with those other programs in there. When I renamed the old files to /winold and tried again, it worked fine.
@mattjw16
@mattjw16 4 жыл бұрын
computerkid1416 That is interesting
@CandCog
@CandCog 3 жыл бұрын
Windows XP was my very first OS, I have extremely fond memories of it but seeing all these older and newer OS's cooexist (sorta) is very neat!
@steinerbtw
@steinerbtw 2 жыл бұрын
@Rickroll Gaming never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
@techyyboi3082
@techyyboi3082 2 жыл бұрын
My first os was either windows 98 or xp
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 9 ай бұрын
@@techyyboi3082 Mine was microsoft basic 2.0 on the commodore 64.
@nadrogiraniburek4139
@nadrogiraniburek4139 4 жыл бұрын
5:32 you wasnt able to run them cause Windows 1.0 glitches out on every version after MS-DOS 5.00, just so you know
@EneaX6
@EneaX6 3 жыл бұрын
To run Windows 1.0 on MS-DOS 5 and later, before booting you need to type “Setver Win100.BIN 3.30” which basically tells Windows that MS-DOS 3.30 is installed
@nadrogiraniburek4139
@nadrogiraniburek4139 3 жыл бұрын
@@EneaX6 Yes, you are right, that is the other one of fixes for Win1 on MS-DOS 5
@pupmusic-vms3812
@pupmusic-vms3812 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooooooh lol I was wondering why I got it, cuz I got virtual pc 2007 and I'm used to virtualbox so you can install it with ms dos 6.22.
@harrycop7944
@harrycop7944 3 жыл бұрын
burek je najbolja pita :D
@JeffSlover
@JeffSlover 3 жыл бұрын
A few notes if you have to install Windows 95 or 98 again. If you copy the files to the local disk like you did it speeds up the process drastically. Also to keep it from doing a system inspection and scandisk you can do setup /ie /is /iv Windows 98 SE is what introduced the gradient, and a number of other innovative things. If you do have to do another upgrade process video I would recommend getting speakers to work on it. The chunky sounds from the early operating systems, and the amount of effort placed in the intro videos for the operating systems were amazing. I enjoyed the video, but it did seem that most of it was telling us to check out the VM variant of the same because it was more successful.
@larsl-xs2sc
@larsl-xs2sc 4 жыл бұрын
i really like these kinds of video's. i am very interested in old pc's
@markoramicic9825
@markoramicic9825 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@landon5030
@landon5030 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@macecail
@macecail 4 жыл бұрын
Я тоже
@henrybarwick6792
@henrybarwick6792 4 жыл бұрын
same.
@interlaced_maniac
@interlaced_maniac 4 жыл бұрын
same here man good luck
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 4 жыл бұрын
50:53 That's interesting: eMachines had been bought by Gateway in 2004, and Acer would, in turn, buy Gateway in 2007, just a few months after Vista came up!
@unnamedchannel1237
@unnamedchannel1237 4 жыл бұрын
Also, word for the wide avoid Acer computers
@android-user
@android-user 4 жыл бұрын
@@unnamedchannel1237 Why? I have 2 at home.
@chris71mach1
@chris71mach1 4 жыл бұрын
Having grown the entire framework for my current skillset in the 90s, I recognize every bit of this, and have even owned PCs older and slower than this before. Wow, this video makes me feel SO friggin old.
@JumbleDrops
@JumbleDrops 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly mesmerizing to see all of these things in the past And it feels so cool going into safe mode and stuff, its like the backrooms thing, like you arent supposed to be there or its like hiding in a backup silo Could only be but I love that kind of feeling
@lethal2097
@lethal2097 4 жыл бұрын
Hello I just wanted to say keep up the great work!
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jargon343
@jargon343 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I have been waiting for this video!
@helpmegetsubspleas3557
@helpmegetsubspleas3557 3 жыл бұрын
There is no replies so
@helpmegetsubspleas3557
@helpmegetsubspleas3557 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to
@Alxr0_0
@Alxr0_0 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha i ruined your 69 likes >:)
@julianbarron5293
@julianbarron5293 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alxr0_0 I hate you. I was gonna
@HeenaPatel253
@HeenaPatel253 3 жыл бұрын
Julian Barron no problem I will unlike and it will be 69 Edit: Done
@vibeaimusic
@vibeaimusic Жыл бұрын
Late to the show, but this was a ton of fun to watch. I was a bench tech that started out in 1993, so everything was still DOS/Win. We were cranking out the 'all new' mid-towers for offices - standard, under the desk layouts. 5.25 in the top slot, 3.5 in the second, optional Tape backup in the 3rd for several businesses. Our first Windows distro that we actually put on our machines and supported, was 3.11 for Workgroups with DOS 6.22. CD-ROMs came out and wow, we started putting them at the top, then the 5.25 and 3.5 below. Then 1995 came around and changed everything. Slightly faster CD drives, 5.25 drives were no longer installed unless specifically asked for (which did still happen occasionally) and of course - Win 95! Then 98 and especially 98SE. When I left the build/repair/support and moved on to network field tech... we were building 3 GIGABYTE systems (huge drives man lol) with internal ZIP or LS120 drives being common addons. I remember the awe over the first 24x read and 4x write CD Burner we got in. So may memories this brought back! What a great video. Thank you! :)
@andreytop1gg
@andreytop1gg 3 жыл бұрын
To have an antivirus on Windows 7 pre-installed, you need to upgrade from windows 3.1 to Windows 7.
@QuantumScratcher
@QuantumScratcher 2 жыл бұрын
At least it's easier on Windows 10.
@arlcr
@arlcr 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael, Thanks for the wonderful video. I used to do these upgrades too as a student decades ago, because I really liked to tinker with the various OS versions, not necessarily all Microsoft based. I remember the Reversi problem. I always had to install the Windows 3.0 version of Reversi which was for some reason not included in Windows 3.1 or Windows 3.11. That exe file always opened in upgraded versions of Windows. I never got the Windows 2 versions to work.
@kidwajagstang
@kidwajagstang 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! It has been FOREVER since I went thru most of these installations. Still remember how I was able to get Win95 to run on an AMD 486 processor. Ran like a slug, but it ran.
@jackdavenport5011
@jackdavenport5011 Жыл бұрын
31:24 I find it amazing how much Windows 95 looks like a modern desktop UI. I can tell 95 was a big deal at the time based on how little the fundamentals of Windows have changed since then
@mshaftenberg
@mshaftenberg 2 жыл бұрын
I can exactly remember my feelings when the drum snare icon arrived at the end of an installation process haha :D
@seshpenguin
@seshpenguin 4 жыл бұрын
I find it pretty interesting that backwards compatibility actually increased over time! My best guess is there is two reasons, one is that up until Windows XP, most businesses just kept using older OS's, but XP was the first time they did a major upgrade (and Microsoft really pushed for this) The other reason is probably the switch to NT (funnily enough), since Microsoft developed the NTVDM and probably just went all in with compatibility and testing.
@ismaelbergmann3282
@ismaelbergmann3282 3 жыл бұрын
I skipped windows 1 and 2 because I basically was a toddler at that time but from windows 3.11 up, I used every OS as well.. This video was basically a time travel experience for me, bathing in memories ;) Well done! Thumbs up!
@boyankarshakov2576
@boyankarshakov2576 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love this video so much! Keep up the good work!
@Mr.Postal
@Mr.Postal 5 ай бұрын
I love this Calm Voice, Its very relaxing and its the perfect voicr to fall asleep. I love it. 😌👌
@livingdeadbtu
@livingdeadbtu 2 жыл бұрын
In a lot of those old programs the acceptable DOS versions were determined by a "ver" command (or evuivalent) and the result compared to text in a setup CFG file. In other words, you could mess with the config file to tweak it so it worked on DOS versions that were later than the program. Ahhh, the days before security was an issue.
@littleguystar
@littleguystar 4 жыл бұрын
I love videos about Old pcs and Upgrading from older versions of windows. Could we attempt to put the hard drive into another pc and upgrade to 10? That should work.
@HardwareFahrrad
@HardwareFahrrad 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's an awesome idea, i would actually really like to see this
@Natures_Intentions
@Natures_Intentions 4 жыл бұрын
That might work with 32 bit windows 10. It would make for a cool video
@englishdatalucio8221
@englishdatalucio8221 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for u guys, but it would not work, I've tried multiple times, it freezes at where the windows logo is supposed to be, and that was a newer pc, because windows 10 32b needs 1GB and 1GHZ with a new processor feature(what this pc doesn't have), but this pc would not even show a bsod, it would just not start, it would be rlly cool if there was a way to do it
@HardwareFahrrad
@HardwareFahrrad 4 жыл бұрын
@@englishdatalucio8221 Try it again with Windows 7
@littleguystar
@littleguystar 4 жыл бұрын
@@englishdatalucio8221 What even was the specs? You actually, bought 2 pcs and swapped hard drives?
@ACOnetwork
@ACOnetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Memories... . My first Windows was 3.1, never even seen previous versions hehe. Thank you for this vid 😁👍
@Remastered-StyledTutorials
@Remastered-StyledTutorials 4 жыл бұрын
My quarantine has gotten way better because of you. I love your channel :)
@MrMeme5000
@MrMeme5000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking your time to make these videos! You inspired me to get a win95 VM!
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@darknightmike10yearsago
@darknightmike10yearsago Жыл бұрын
I am running Windows XP in a VM
@luka_875
@luka_875 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Minecraft enchantment table: 4:57
@idkyiexist3534
@idkyiexist3534 3 жыл бұрын
Luka 875 *T R U E* Also P l S S u b b a c k
@vukristic
@vukristic 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@vukristic
@vukristic 3 жыл бұрын
@@luka_875 can you speak serbian? Your name is Luka...
@vukristic
@vukristic 3 жыл бұрын
@@luka_875 I watched your videos, and since your phone is in Croatian or Bosnian, I think you can
@vukristic
@vukristic 3 жыл бұрын
@@luka_875 znaci znas da ovako pricas?
@GuyPaddock
@GuyPaddock 8 ай бұрын
Best way to validate if a program is from Windows 1/2/3, 95, etc. is not to use the "About" option but in fact to open the file properties dialog and see what version stamp is embedded in the file. In Windows 95 they started embedding versioning info in the metadata. You're correct that programs will claim they're part of Windows 98 in the "About" dialog even when they're not because those programs are using Windows Common UI (which started in Windows 95).
@rudolphtheodore3474
@rudolphtheodore3474 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, loved your video from the start to the end, wish I had a older system running windows 98 or Ms Dos, those where some of my best years. I have a old Dos program call Pop Dos, just great, and my first Ms Dos program also, when the disk began to fail I remove the dater. Still have it to this day. My First computer was a Tandy 1000 RLX 25, those where the days.
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I even watched this whole thing.
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
HowToBasic JR. thanks :D You’re the best too! 😉
@Dr-Random
@Dr-Random 4 жыл бұрын
David Yarrington I’m looking to watch it all the way through again.
@HeenaPatel253
@HeenaPatel253 4 жыл бұрын
Windows Vista windows 7 better then u
@chicken7471
@chicken7471 4 жыл бұрын
Hey windows media centre I am an unreleased uhh version of windows vista jk XD edit: i just changed my profile and it might not show but its a red windows vista symbol that looks like a red panda XD
@chicken7471
@chicken7471 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeenaPatel253 windows vista and 7 are technically the same but they did have differences
@fredd12356
@fredd12356 Жыл бұрын
It's a huge bit late but I want to share a detail I noticed about the MS-DOS Executive (MSDOS.EXE). At 41:37 and 57:54, when you clicked on Properties for MSDOS.EXE, it showed a mere 1 byte of size, which means the EXE file didn't contain the original contents. It might have been damaged somewhere between the Windows 95 and Windows Me upgrade. That must have been why the error message was "Not a valid Win32 application". If it was the correct EXE, it might crash or trigger a compatibility notice, but definitely not the valid Win32 application notice.
@mr.sowhat3796
@mr.sowhat3796 3 жыл бұрын
you make me very happy : ) you have made my day I hope you have a good day to keep making videos like these I really love these old computer videos!
@koseki_stuff
@koseki_stuff 3 жыл бұрын
Michael, I love your videos. You always sound so chill and you just make my day.
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! : )
@MrV1NC3N7V3G4
@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 4 жыл бұрын
Brings back good/bad memories...I'd almost forgotten just how bad early Windows really was. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was the first OS I installed commercially for peer-to-peer files/printer sharing and got paid for it lol!
@AAvfx
@AAvfx 2 жыл бұрын
So, is the new thing is to discontinue old OS so people will buy new hardware? I wonder what are the benefits to the user in such a case...
@dom5
@dom5 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more of the work involved in maintaining the old operating systems
@liamthepyro
@liamthepyro 2 жыл бұрын
@@dom5 that and money
@dozytoast416
@dozytoast416 2 жыл бұрын
It's in nobodies best interest to maintain support for an ancient piece of software that became obsolete long ago. Any extended support would be a drain on resources
@WR3ND
@WR3ND 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterrrdrives Same as it ever was. There are countless great programs made for old computers, and a fair number of nice hardware features as well.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that there are benefits to the user. It's more that there detriments to the developers. It's hard to keep on supporting old hardware. It makes sense they started using newer features on Windows 8 and 10. Few people were using computers old enough that it would be a problem, and development would be a lot slower. However, what they are doing with Windows 11 is different. It runs just fine on hardware as long as it fits the minimum requirements (1Ghz 2 core processor, 4GB memory, 64 GB storage). But Microsoft is adding the requirement for TPM 2.0, even though it is not necessary for the software to run. They even ignore some processors that can run TPM 2.0 with an added chip. No, with Windows 11, it is entirely about getting people to get new PCs and to go after the used PC market. Right now, you can get a computer with a processor from 2011, upgrade the memory, and throw in an SSD with Windows 10 installed on it, and have a good little computer. Throw in a graphics card, and you can even game. I bought the base system for $100, and it was already better than most $200-$300 current computers. The PC manufactures don't like this, and they actually buy the bulk of Windows copies, so Microsoft is trying to make them happy. I do, however, hope they're trying to make it fail, since they are saying "it's a great time to buy a new PC" during a shortage. Maybe they know that this won't work, and they're just doing this to make it look like they tried to get the manufacturers off their backs. At least, I hope this is the case.
@createbufferandbeams
@createbufferandbeams 4 жыл бұрын
Wow MJD This made my boring isolation fun to watch your yt vids!
@Cyx12
@Cyx12 2 жыл бұрын
This vid is one of my favorite videos you have ever made and I have watched this video like 10 times
@ShiggitayMediaProductions
@ShiggitayMediaProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment! I've tried upgrading Windows 7 to Windows 10 on an old 2007 MacBook I had access to and I had similar problems as you did, but I never attempted v1 to Win 7 in any capacity! Great job!
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 4 жыл бұрын
9:40 you can just boot from a DOS 5.0 floppy and type "SYS C:" command to make a hard drive bootable with DOS 5.0 easy enough
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Guru haha yea :) I never install DOS, only sys the HDD and copy all DOS files in directory called "DOS" :)
@CocoTheMii
@CocoTheMii 3 жыл бұрын
You can actually use a PS/2 mouse in Windows 1.0 by replacing MOUSE.DRV on the setup disk with the Windows 2.0 version. During installation, you can select the Microsoft Mouse option for PS/2 mouse support. Also, that garbage that appeared on the screen when you first started Windows 1.0 was likely caused by an incompatibility with the DOS version you were running. This can also be fixed with the command "SETVER C:\WINDOWS\WIN100.BIN 3.34". I've tested both patches in MS-DOS 6.22 and it works perfectly.
@szobione
@szobione Жыл бұрын
Epic upgrade video!!!!!!! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
@andykillsu
@andykillsu 3 жыл бұрын
You could try upgrading the processor in it if possible to get one that can support the required items. You can also easily upgrade the ram since it was that uncommon at the time to have 1 to 2 GB. It’s not exactly the same as using the same PC, but if you can use the same motherboard and just change the CPU, that would be better than nothing.
@nikmarku1811
@nikmarku1811 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Im evil Friend: no your not Me: I enjoyed windows vista
@queenidiot6434
@queenidiot6434 3 жыл бұрын
Vista is my favorite Windows OS besides 10. I like Vista because it had so much new stuff, Microsoft added the new stuff to later Windows OSs. The only reason why I like 10 is because it’s the newest Windows OS.
@Blitterbug
@Blitterbug 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the interesting video. You'll almost certainly get better functionality if you fully update all versions prior to upgrade. For example, when going from Vista to Win7 I used to have to install all the Vista updates from Windows Update AFTER installing SP1, followed by SP2, followed by all remaining updates. Similarly, going from 7 to 8 or 10 requires SP1 and all updates. It's a pain, but over the years I got it to more or less a fixed routine, though some systems just refuse to play ball.
@sonicthehedgehog5088
@sonicthehedgehog5088 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the MS-DOS Executive didn't work is because the file got corrupted along the way, during the Windows 3.1 upgrade. From Windows 3.1 and thus later versions of Windows, "MSDOS.EXE" is 1 byte in size.
@Smolface.
@Smolface. 3 жыл бұрын
Offically my favorite movie of all time.
@pattyantonieta
@pattyantonieta 2 жыл бұрын
Ñ
@michaelvairo6091
@michaelvairo6091 4 жыл бұрын
I love your content so much thanks for making my life better
@DigitalHandle
@DigitalHandle 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only half way through it and I already am having fun!
@riantwoninety
@riantwoninety 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is a goldmine
@vhrod1681
@vhrod1681 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, just found your channel, great content btw! thanks for keeping us entretained
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Welcome to the channel : )
@BaconHairGaming11
@BaconHairGaming11 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMJD is for me to like? 🤨👉👈
@dom1310df
@dom1310df 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether those floppys have suffered from bit rot due to being so old?
@novacula
@novacula Жыл бұрын
That's quite common, but the issue here is most likely an already existing version of those files were in the C drive and the windows install was derping out because of it, deleting them probably would have allowed the install to progress.
@kennycampbell7289
@kennycampbell7289 Жыл бұрын
Ah this brings back memories, first time I installed windows it was MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows for workgroups 3.11 ,changed days, big thumbs up for this 👌
@Tom_And_Jerry_Fanatic_2024
@Tom_And_Jerry_Fanatic_2024 Жыл бұрын
You are the best! I give this an 11/10!
@gen_angry
@gen_angry 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this like 10 months later, getting a Gotek for my DOS build was a godsend. No dead disks, no limited disks, no floppy read errors - it just works. I use UltraISO to create floppy images if I need to and store them all on the usb drive. Greatly recommend
@IAmNotAFunguy
@IAmNotAFunguy 4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with those floppy disks is that they are starting to become unreadable due to magnetic media degradation.
@todor2270
@todor2270 3 жыл бұрын
What about those usb floppy things
@sheamichael2004
@sheamichael2004 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought of that
@KieranSymes
@KieranSymes 2 жыл бұрын
The part where you can choose what program manager would make a really interesting video. It's at 25:48. Would it be Windows 95 with the 3.1 Program Manager? I don't think I've ever seen that option before.
@Busrayne
@Busrayne Жыл бұрын
Great trip down memory lane. Thanks.
@bortverde
@bortverde 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: If you save your theme in Appearance Windows in 98/ME, you can actually reapply it in XP and up
@gilly5809
@gilly5809 4 жыл бұрын
ooo a super long MJD vidya. I'm excited :D
@smartninja3651
@smartninja3651 2 жыл бұрын
video
@gilly5809
@gilly5809 2 жыл бұрын
@@smartninja3651 I know how to spell video but thanks lol
@JBrasuell
@JBrasuell Ай бұрын
This is my favorite video EVER! (Out of millions of vids) Get this man to 1M Subs.
@Octo_Numa
@Octo_Numa Жыл бұрын
Wow I can fall asleep to his voice it’s so calm plus over one hour of Michael MJD is perfect
@nakyer
@nakyer 4 жыл бұрын
Mike- Would you have any use for a motherboard, processor (and cooler) and memory from a computer that ran Windows 95/98? I don't want to throw the board away if someone could use it. (I reused the case...sorry.)
@rudolphtheodore3474
@rudolphtheodore3474 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nakyer, man would I love to get the computer parts if you still have them. The only problem is I live in the country call Trinidad and Tobago. That a long way off from you address. But yes, I really would of like to have your computer parts if.... thanks for putting it out there.
@fredd12356
@fredd12356 Жыл бұрын
I remember the Vista requiring a minimum of 800 MHz CPU, and the 7 requiring 1 GHz. It's interesting how the Setup programs didn't complain about the CPU being too slow or the memory too small. As for the memory, Vista would be okay with the 512MiB OP's machine had, but 7 *should* need at least 1 GiB (at least Microsoft said that).
@AY_______
@AY_______ 3 жыл бұрын
incredible study of Windows upgrade path
@jamiemarchant
@jamiemarchant 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all that work with the vidoe.
@queballaus
@queballaus 4 жыл бұрын
would be curious to see speed tests run on this system compared to it run on a fresh Win7 install. See if the upgrades have degraded the experience at all
@ethanrushbrook3314
@ethanrushbrook3314 4 жыл бұрын
You should do something like this on a livestream. Everyone is home so we would all watch...
@noor-rx1ij
@noor-rx1ij 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be done!
@NatetheNintendofan
@NatetheNintendofan 3 жыл бұрын
Do it MJD!
@Quadrenaro
@Quadrenaro 2 жыл бұрын
It saw Windows 7 and rejected all pretenders that claimed to be the successor. I see this as an absolute win.
@andreeabrutaru4480
@andreeabrutaru4480 3 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia so strong ^^ My very first PC was a Pentium 1, and I had Windows 98 on it. Used to install it every single week =))))
@oslsc
@oslsc 4 жыл бұрын
I love to see you do this again but dull boot all the versions so you can boot in to them
@TechHug
@TechHug 4 жыл бұрын
You should try to get a computer that can run all versions of Windows!
@thatoneuser5066
@thatoneuser5066 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that would still involve upgrading the RAM halfway as 9x struggles with more than 512 MB
@domomania
@domomania 3 жыл бұрын
if it can run ten then... i mean
@TechHug
@TechHug 3 жыл бұрын
@@domomania No, the oldest versions might not install on modern hardware.
@bretsutherlandsterriblemem8439
@bretsutherlandsterriblemem8439 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneuser5066 you can change the registry to limit the amount of RAM that Windows 95 can access.
@TNTMusic5757
@TNTMusic5757 3 жыл бұрын
TechHog not the newest device, the oldest device supported by windows 10 might work.
@jordanketchum1526
@jordanketchum1526 3 жыл бұрын
oh man, i dont have time to watch this whole video right now but i cannot wait to finish it! lol
@athurV1
@athurV1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Michael, what was the gateway model hardware specs pls ?
@LKComputes
@LKComputes 4 жыл бұрын
The optimum way to install Windows 1.x is to first install MS-DOS 5, because of incompatibility in DOS 6 for Windows 1.x and 2.x, and then install Windows 1.04 an IBM exclusive version of Windows 1.x with VGA and PS/2 compatibility. Windows 1.04 is also more stable than Windows 1.01. To get VGA, select IBM PS/2 Model 50, 60, 80.
@timothyt.82
@timothyt.82 4 жыл бұрын
I've recently gotten into computer things. This channel is one of the main reasons.
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear that!
@mrneptune64
@mrneptune64 3 жыл бұрын
can relate
@MarkLoves2Fly
@MarkLoves2Fly 3 жыл бұрын
Color settings were lost because of the change from 16Bit to 32Bit. A similar phenomenon happens going from Win32 to Win64.
@stargazer1295
@stargazer1295 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Watched it in one go!
@Peppermint-Palace
@Peppermint-Palace 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! Massive upgrades on real hardware!
@ndejonge
@ndejonge 4 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos!
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear that, thanks!
@LttleTim
@LttleTim Жыл бұрын
Omg, talk about a nostalgia trip fown memory lane 🤯😍
@chiamaluca
@chiamaluca Жыл бұрын
This was fun (a glimpse into my youth) .... I started with a VIC 20 and then 64 & Amiga & DOS 1.0 etc ... Thanks.
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