Upgrading the Framework 13 💻: Is AMD Worth the Hype?

[@fernandorocha9620]

I'm using the AMD board for a day or so and I'm impressed by the good performance with fans quite most of the time.

[@Nicholas-nu9jx]

And once deck2 comes out we have better apus for framework hopefully

[@DimitrisChr]

Would love to see Linux related performance and battery life comparison!

[@the_dude182]

True because this kind of device is perfect for developers. Who mostly run some kind of debian based OS.

[@toxiclovept]

It's now CS2! Try it on both DX11 and Vulkan mode! (on launch options, add -vulkan). Also, It would be hard for noise and heat to decrase. It's double the performance.

[@ElevatedSystems]

LOL, Did I say CS:GO? I actually typed CS2 into my script. I guess after a decade it's just stuck in my brain. It's on the list to test.

[@znazzer8]

@@ElevatedSystems Hi, when you test CS2, can you please try "pro player" settings, 1280x960, stretched, all low settings, FidelityFX disabled, that would be great

[@Fhabdhxi]

Whats good about the gaming perf is that it should sit at or above the steam deck, so as long as the deck remains relevant, so does the 7840u.

[@ElevatedSystems]

The Steam Deck looks good because it has a 720p screen, unfortunately a game rendered at 720p on the Framework screen looks bad. But I'll dive deeper into that next week.

[@cd109876]

​@@ElevatedSystemsI wonder if you try integer scaling - might need to add a custom resolution and enabling some settings in the AMD control panel - 1128 x 752

[@soragranda]

Is way better than the steam deck, more CU on GPU, more cores on CPU, also, Zen 4 over Zen 2 and RDNA3 over RDNA2.

[@legeaux1]

This is much faster

[@Pro720HyperMaster720]

@@soragrandait depends, if with performance we talk about fps in settings you want to use, probably are about the same, as indeed is quite more capable but due to scaling and raw screen size you’d want to run the game above the HD 720p/800p of the Steam Deck, so at the end you’ll probably end up with similar fps, because 720p in the screen of the Framework laptop doesn’t look good

[@GeoStreber]

That new BIOS looks pretty great, design-wise. A BIOS update for that new GUI would be really cool for my 12th gen FWL13.

[@ElevatedSystems]

It does. I'm just old school (or just old) and like the old blue and white AMI BIOS screens.

[@Pro720HyperMaster720]

Is like the Steam Deck one, I find that curious as I never saw that BIOS manufacturer until the Steam Deck

[@ccricers]

@@Pro720HyperMaster720 Insyde also makes the BIOS for 11th gen Intel boards (I have one) and I'm assuming the other Intel boards as well. But it had the more "traditional" look

[@Sephsekla]

Great video! I'm very interested to see the Linux review, since that's how I'll be using it for development. It's so fantastic to see Framework continuing to succeed.

[@Romaoplays]

Very well made video! Underrated channel, you should have much more views

[@ninefox344]

Finally, I'm perplexed by the lack of content for this awesome machine. Really looking forward to the linux and gaming reviews. Your work will have a big impact on whether I buy this machine or not! Thanks for your great work.

[@ghostsword6554]

Always enjoying your Framework content, the laptop fans not being active all the time, is a major reason why this version is much more appealing to me (though I am not in the market for a new laptop just yet, and I wonder about the performance and noise level of the Framework 16). Looking forward to more videos in this series.

[@outtokill7]

I upgraded from an 11th gen i5 to the Ryzen 5 mainboard and the efficiency is mindblowing. CPU power is around 8W when doing light web browsing in power efficiency mode. I'm interested in a Linux review particularly with regards to things like display scaling with Electron applications like VS Code and Discord. I'd also like to see what sleep/wake is like under Linux. With Windows I am still using 'hibernate after..." since the power draw when sleeping was still too high. My 11th gen mainboard is now an OpenWRT router with both PCIe slots filled with 2.5gbe adapters and its been working well!

[@hojjat5000]

I tested my Ryzen 7, and it lost 8% in 8 hours of sleep. I am using HDMI expansion gen 1. If I update my HDMI expansion it will be even more efficient in sleep. Display scaling and electron apps are hit or miss as usual. More apps are updating and supporting fractional scaling, but electron apps are the worst in this regard. I upgraded from 11th i7, and with the release of the new BIOS today, I finally was able to use my Linux setup and I'm pretty impressed. I was using my laptop for hours and suddenly noticed that it's not even plugged in! Light work is very efficient on this laptop.

[@robinrai4973]

Say, shouldn't most laptop CPUs use way less under web browsing? I have a run of the mill 10th gen intel U class CPU and it consumes about 1-3 watts web browsing (small bursts up to around 10), and 0.5w idling. Under heavy loads it goes up to 40 watts.

[@kuronoch.1441]

​@@robinrai4973I think Intel consumes less wattage when in idle, but a lot more when under load. AMD consumes less wattage overall, but relatively guzzles on idle. That comparison will only get worse once Meteor Lake arrives for laptops and Arrow Lake for desktops.

[@brady_v1]

Which 2.5g adapters did you use?

[@demounit]

i've had my amd r7 framework laptop for a few weeks now and i've been loving it. been running fedora 39 on it exclusively and i don't miss windows at all. gaming performance is great and runs everything i want it to. my steam deck showed me that linux is 100% a viable platform for pc gaming and fedora and my framework is sealing the deal.

[@opensourcedev22]

It's almost 2x the cost to my comparable Lenovo 16" 7840u. I'll keep saying it over and over - there's an initial R&D markup that early adopters will pay. I for one can't drop an extra $1200 just because, since it will probably take a couple of generations of these laptops to bring these into mainstream pricelines. Until then, I'm happy for those believers who fork out the cash on a Framework. I hope other manufacturers follow suit with this design

[@deidyomega]

There's a cost difference that has to be factored in. Even loyal framework users are going to spend less on future framework purchases, meaning the company has to front load more of the cost. Also, there's no shot any other major manufacture will go down this road. (unless the EU forces that process)

[@aygwm]

Put your money where your mouth is

[@bigdoggetom6549]

One thing to consider is the build quality. I can't comment on FW build quality, but some of the cheap Lenovo, HP, and Dell laptops are absolute dogshit and fall apart unless you're only using them on a table in your dining room

[@balfit]

Thanks CJ, love all the reviews, but Framework ones take the lead. I am 100% with you on the upgrade thoughts. Perhaps it will become something like swapping in really old gear augmented with government sourced environment protection subsidies bringing down the prices massively. After all, that would be full and real recycling.

[@cyclopsvision6370]

Are you on drugs? The guy is comparing the latest model with 11th and 12th gen Intel processors, when the more accurate comparison would be the 13th gen Intel processor. He made Intel look bad intentionally by comparing the current AMD offering to old Intel chips.

[@ElevatedSystems]

@@cyclopsvision6370 The 13th gen was just released a few months ago. Upgrading from a one and two year old board is already pretty unreasonable for most ppl. Anyone who bought the 13th gen already knew the Ryzen one was being released so they aren't looking to upgrade. Besides the 13th gen is only 5% to 10% faster than the 12th gen with no power efficiency improvements. They are basically the same mainboard.

[@duden8173]

Thanks for the video, very interesting! I have the very first Framework Laptop (11th gen i5) from 2021 and its already a really good machine. Fast forward 2+ years and we get better screen rigidity, a matte panel, louder speakers (quality still subpar unfortunately) and *finally* amazing battery life. I won't upgrade any parts for environmental reasons (would love the matte screen tho) but from now on I can recommend the FW13 to anyone looking for an ultrabook without any bad conscience. I hope after the 16 they will start working on a 360 hinge or a 2in1 chassis that fits the same mainboard if thats not possible.

[@Winnetou17]

Regarding not upgrading... selling the laptop / giving it to a relative/friend and getting a new one is still an option. Also, maybe there's people searching for the parts you want to upgrade, to repair their own laptops. I mean, maybe their mobo fried and they don't need an upgrade, but would like a replacement as cheap as possible.

[@georgiancernat]

Respect for not upgrading due to environmental reasons!

[@AndersHass]

I think the best path for more budget conscious people will be to buy 2nd hand parts than buying brand new parts. But it will be enthusiast who are more up for 2nd hand parts where most people just want brand new parts. Maybe if Framework increases their scale they can offer better value, but I doubt big companies will go away from buying bulk of laptops etc. from a big manufacture like Dell.

[@PAUL-uk1le]

Its such a cool idea. I'd honestly hope other Laptop companies at least adopt swapping ports from framework. I'm going to buy a 16 model when win 12 arrives, I'll be hitting batch 18 or 19. I also want a speaker upgrade for non headphone use.

[@Neuer_Alias_erstellen]

id love to see ho well USB4 in the Framework works with an #EGPU

[@owenhowever1958]

Just bought the 13 brand new with this cpu glad to know it's gonna be awesome

[@SionFrench]

@CJ thank you for another comprehensive well thought out coverage of the FW AMD board, just wish your camera had focused on you and not the lid of the FW laptop! 🙂 And looking forward to more to come.

[@ElevatedSystems]

LOL. Wasn't sure if anyone would notice. When I pulled focus I was sitting inline with the laptop bit at the last minute decided to push my stool back and I forgot to refocus. It didn't look very bad in the raw footage but the KZbin compression didn't help.

[@paulgriffin8566]

C.J many thanks for a fantastic review. You answered many of the questions I had about upgrading my FW13. The performance statistics around fan noise and heat were particularly incite full along with the battery upgrade. I run Ubuntu 22.04 and am constantly frustrated with battery life, fan noise and heat. This is exacerbated when I fire up VMware instances of Windows and Kali. I would love to get your thoughts on how the Ryzen board went with Ubuntu stand alone and with a couple of VM's running if you could manage it. Again, many thanks, I'm looking forward to your further reviews of the Ryzen board.

[@deathab0ve]

I have 11th gen intel in my framework. I don't want this newer AMD, but I am interested as this is a giant leap in performance. If this is the leap today then the leap in 4 years when I would upgrade could only be better. This is exciting news for the future of Framework.

[@Bboyman1150]

Can’t wait till the framework 16 pre orders ship

[@Pieteros21]

For sure test fedora , using it for more than a year and for me it's awensome middleground in between ubuntu and arch based distros

[@ericandruszko7563]

Great, solid video! Always love your Framework vids. If you could test Ubuntu Studio in your Linux distro tests, I'd appreciate that

[@scottxiong5844]

Battery charge percentage limit in BIOS!? I don't think I've ever heard or seen this :D. That is cool.

[@ElevatedSystems]

There is a limit so you don't stress the battery if you keep it plugged in for long periods.

[@ianthomas1955]

A Battery comparison with tho old one would have been really cool. But maybe someone in the Forum will do one. I use the 11 Gen i5 Model. i think the I5 or Ryzen 5 Cpus are and have been the better choice Price to Performance wise. Like 600 for the Bord some RAM and the WIFI card would be the way to go for me. I love to see your Review

[@ElevatedSystems]

I'll do a short on the 55wH battery life

[@deansmits006]

Do you plan to upgrade your main board some day? Or only in the case if component failure? Just curious about how other owners view the modularity

[@ianthomas1955]

@@deansmits006 I ordered the 16 and I'm giving the 13 to my girlfriend. But we will probably upgrade it together sometime next year as I want to use the Bord as a Media PC and she will probably want a more efficient CPU.

[@marcruijs1039]

Love to see how it runs Ubuntu! I'd really like to know what kind of trackpad gestures are available, and how stable it runs

[@br3nd4n]

Please test Ubuntu and Fedora 🙏 especially heat and battery life. My Framework 12th Gen is going strong. Replaced the hinges and added a vinyl skin and a matte screen protector. It's working really well and is light enough to travel almost everywhere.

[@walaszek]

Excellent video. Love the tip about the 100W charger. Liked & subscribed.

[@ContantContact]

Repairs are important. I have 2 HP X360s, different models. The keyboards on both are bad. I would love to be able to swap the keyboards out in 2 minutes. And upgrade the Ram. Can't really do either. The ram is soldered in. The keyboard is plastic welded in. I ordered a Framework 16. The aggravation is a higher cost that the price of the Framerwork.

[@AndersHass]

11:02 Impressive the on battery performance was better than plugged in. But perhaps the new drivers improves things. It would also be nice to see how the frame time was for on battery (it might be the case it sucked overall but did really well particular places so the total amount of frames was higher or it actually just overall was better, lol).

[@blayd_]

Please test Debian 12!! I would love to see your experience as I'm interested in an AMD framework for uni and beyond. Thanks for the honest review, they're hard to come by nowadays

[@kmsum]

Thanks CJ for the comprehensive video. How are your grandbabies? I can't wait to see your in depth review on Ryzen Framework. Please let me know if the bios has following settings: - above 4G encoding - Auto resize bar support

[@wyfyj]

Installing Gentoo on mine right now. The battery life is pretty nice!

[@cdoublejj]

Thats why i upgrade the power supplys on my laptops. i got 100+ chargers and even battery banks. i even got a 350 watt brick for my old alienware m17x r4 back in the day. at least you found the issue!!!

[@bigdoggetom6549]

I've ordered the 7640U based one a few days ago. I wanted to give Framework a try. I appreciate the sustainability of the design, but I do worry about the heat and power That said, I was looking at a Dell XPS with Intel 125H as the alternative, and I assume they probably thermal throttle constantly with such a thin design. Issue with modern laptops. Naturally the M3 is one of the better choices, but MacBook Air is the same price range as the FW and at 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage, it's a bit of a cheeser

[@homeape.]

the thing that i learnt from this video: germany + colorado makes one heck of a tshirt

[@jierenzheng7670]

I didn't really feel the need to upgrade my Framework 12th Gen, some optimisation on the Linux side can push it further to around 8 hours. That being said, my laptop is borrowed to a relative for school so I got a 2nd hand Thinkpad X280. I loved the feel of the body and keyboard, wish there was an option for that on the Framework 13 chassis too.

[@AnupamAdkeM---]

Framework With the New Snapdragon ARM Base SOC is basically A Big Big Game Changer

[@MK-xc9to]

If its noise and heat that bothering you than simply use a Notebook Cooler , the Notebook Fans are relativly tiny and have to spin fast to pump air into the Laptop = noisy , my Notebook Cooler has too slim 140 mm fans which blow cold Air from beneath the Laptop into the Laptop which support the Laptop Fans , powered only by USB . That will bring the Temps down and with it the noise from the Laptop Fans .

[@ZDub77]

Any chance an external GPU enclosure would work with the usb4 ports?

[@ElevatedSystems]

It works, not sure how well. I'll be testing in my gaming review.

[@letscytex]

Could you test fedora and debian testing?

[@therealeightabove]

It's always such a bummer when you go back and look at the footage in post only to realize you had the focus set wrong in the intro shot.

[@gregnewman7516]

Brilliant bit of kit repairable nice my friend had a computer shop pile of laptops out the back no parts non fixable waste of parts tip fill

[@illuminati229]

Im requesting Deep Rock Galatic to be tested in your gaming review. Be sure to get lots of enemies on screen!

[@JohnMFlores]

You gave just the answer I was looking for. I'll probably wait for the _next_ AMD

[@captainpumpkinhead1512]

For Linux, I'd love to see if NixOS performs significantly differently from other Linux distros.

[@mgord9518]

I went from Fedora to Nix a few months ago, the boot time is significantly faster Everything else seems to be similar

[@petergplus6667]

Gawd, how I hate locked down BIOS/UEFI.

[@ZiemsRyan]

Great content! Thank you for the video!

[@pecorjunior]

Really good video, nice work! And what about testing Dead by daylight on that 780m gpu ?

[@kamilk6807]

Good angle with comparing MacBook to this one. But you haven't stated if the upgrade made you reconsider this one to be once again your daily

[@centuriomacro9787]

I'm looking forward to your Linux tests. I would be interested in Ubuntu 23.10, Fedora 39 and latest OpenSUSE Tumbleweed release.

[@guillaume_s]

Great review, interested in EndeavourOS/ArchLinux and Pop OS distros

[@whatwaq]

Right now the cost of a new mainboard to upgrade to is really unreasonable mainly due to the new adopter tax, but I would expect its price to fall fairly quickly when newer mainboards come out just like how they did with the 11th gen, so perhaps an argument could be made there for its currently high price.

[@GRBtutorials]

16:13 Huh, that's weird. According to NotebookCheck, the AMD Framework pulled less maximum power than the Intel ones during their stress tests, and it stayed below 60W, with a maximum of 55W. Similarly, Phoronix tested another 7840U laptop and it only drew 30W peak, compared to over 70W for the i7-1280P! Is is possible your charger/cable is defective? Did you test with another 60W charger/cable combination? You could also try monitoring the power input either via software or a USB tester.

[@ElevatedSystems]

Even Framework states that the 60W charger isn't sufficient for the AMD Mainboard when off battery, and recommends a 100W power source. This indicates the board draws over 60W and needs the battery to suppliment under heavy sustained load which is what my testing showed.

[@trya2l]

I would be interested to see how this laptop handles Debian. Great review, anyway. Thanks 👍

[@xavhow]

A lot of great info here. One that stood out is upgrading costs too much. Framework should really take note on this one. And Framework’s CEO is right about its main competitor being Apple. For me anyway, that’s exactly what I’m comparing it to!

[@stoicfloor]

Can't wait for the Linux review! Thank you CJ!

[@Bareego]

I'd love to see if frameworks could also offer an AIO version. I'm not a big fan of the small laptop screens and love to have much room on my desktop. I find commercially available AIOs annoying as you can't upgrade them. They tend to be annoying to service and upgrade. For now I use a mini pc vesa mounted to a monitor but would prefer the better performance most AIOs can bring.

[@AndersHass]

I wonder if you also use that Macbook Pro as your desktop setup as you did use a Mac Studio at one point (so it might also be more convenient to have one device for everything instead of having to switch between devices). I do wonder how much better battery life LPDDR brings, but it sadly doesn't exist as modules to replace like regular DDR. As that is also a difference between Macs and Framework.

[@MaheerKibria]

So I never thought i would say this, but, honestly, between the battery life, performance and heat it's hard to justify a windows thin and light. And while it is possible that the next gen of ARM windows laptops might solve this problem or maybe later x86 mobile processors. The only thing keeping me on Windows is the lack of good raytracing support because for everything else Apple is as good if not better than the competition. And while I love how repairable Framework is. The perfomance is not where I want it to be. The 16 inch might change my mind but I do 3D character modeling and rendering. So I have a very specific set of requirements.

[@bryans8656]

I've been watching Intel and AMD duke it out for a couple of decades. The competition has been good for us consumers, which I think your video illustrates perfectly.

[@TheKaboomification]

For the linux OS tests, I'd love to see PopOS in them again

[@asdprogram]

you can actually manage tdp of amd laptop cpus with ryzenadj.

[@ElevatedSystems]

It's not worth it on the U series processors. The cooling isn't robust enough to handle higher sustained TDP, push it over 25 to 28 and it just hits thermal limits and throttles anyway. I can use it with my cooler mod though.

[@reru_personal]

I would kind of like to see Garuda Linux tested. Im running the KDE Lite version and am using wayland.

[@naturalcauses1695]

Rainbow six siege benchmark please! Ive looked everywhere for a benchmark on this chip but no one has done it yet! Its a modern esports game so hoping the framework will be able to get decent fps.

[@darkmugetsu6572]

I use my Framework 11th gen Intel for browsing the net mostly so I will probably wait another 3 years of generations or if the motherboard dies before upgrading it.

[@robertbodnar8745]

Did you test game named "Lemmings"? How much fps you`ve got?

[@inspiringengineer]

I use mine to play Stormworks - am planning to buy another but can't deside to go with Intel or AMD??

[@lineax5927]

Games: Overwatch native Res, Fsr2.2; Distros: Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint, Manjaro, Pop

[@francootaola9172]

Would love a good recommendation for a 100w charger 😁

[@2muchjpop]

I'd def get anker or Ugreeen or something else that does 140 or higher.

[@felixgiezek9383]

Hello, nice video! could you test in an other video if the AMD Framework works with an eGPU?

[@keith819]

So it looks like upgrading it costs as much as a new laptop. Still, I find being able to upgrade ram to be a neat perk.

[@GiovanniPedrelli]

Linux test: Fedora, Mint, Ubuntu, Pop_os

[@michaelhays]

Linux Mint would be a great distro to test for the Linux review :)

[@hydroponicgard]

From my (bare knowledge), windows' power management when in sleep mode doesn't put the CPU in proper power state for low power usage, hence the battery life can be a mix of "Oh shoot, only lost 3%" to "Oh god half my battery is gone"... Or if you are unlucky, and windows UPDATES ITSELF DURING SLEEP... Kiss your battery goodbye :P

[@kwinzman]

You make it sound like the only way to recover your BitLocker key is to use a cloud backup from your attached Ethernet card. I would rather use another backup method in the first place.

[@oappi4686]

I also think framework had kinda unique product... I have tried to find 7040 series laptop with replaceable ram ( amd supports up to 256gb and these clowns are barely giving 16gb) and with 780 (integrated gpu) only one i could find was some business laptop from hp that cost +$3000...Compared to that framework is a bargain, but sadly they won't sell one to my region. I am also developer, but don't really need anything more than what integrated gpu offers, so having nvidia gpu is just extra weight and battery drain for me.

[@akin242002]

Interesting video and good research on the benchmark tests. Very surprised the Intel i7 1260P outperformed the AMD 7000s U series CPU for Python and PHP best performance. However, AMD dominated for power efficiency settings.

[@ElevatedSystems]

Some of that might be the API's Windows optimization. That's also the reason Intel sucks in efficiency mode. Most API's ore not optimized at all for the efficiency cores. I'll get a better picture of development performance in Linux.

[@Hands-onNow]

CJ - have you had any experience with the 11th gen CMOS battery dying?

[@ElevatedSystems]

Just once after the mainboard was in storage for a few months. If I remember correctly I just had to plug my usbc phone charger into the opposite side with the stock charger, wait a few minutes and it booted up.

[@Hands-onNow]

@@ElevatedSystems what do you mean by plugged into opposite side? Does it matter if I charge on left vs right?

[@ElevatedSystems]

@@Hands-onNow plug one charger in on the left another on the right to charge the rtc battery. I think, double check the forum, Framework posted the process.

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

But they will eventually come down in price on the parts.

[@Gatsu563]

I'm curious about the out of the box experience with a Fedora.

[@theodoresmith3353]

I got the 61 hr battery too. they haven't released a bios update to unlock the full capacity yet, have they?

[@ElevatedSystems]

Not for the 11th or 12th gen.

[@isaacshiellsthomas992]

Could you test Debian 12? Maybe Debian testing too if you have time?

[@zweiwing4435]

You able to upgrade with Intel core ultra 7? And you ever try Librum 14 laptop?

[@ElevatedSystems]

I have the Core Ultra Mainboard on order. The problem with the Librum 14 and others like it is it was launched years agao and never updated. Right now you'd be spending nearly $1500 for a laptop with a 5-year-old, discontinued CPU.

[@zweiwing4435]

​@@ElevatedSystems I wish Framework 13 can change GPU like Framework 16, they can add AirJet as fan-less, not noisy and not overheat. Why Framework Company doesn't take care of that problem from beginning? same with System 76 laptops? There is no AMD that support Artificial Intelligent as Intel Core Ultra 7 series 1? They are not offer as 2n1 laptops and tough screens with 90Wh batteries. And come with AR glass of Framework that offer multi-virtual-monitors. Framework Team is not offer Trade-in-program parts as reselling parts.

[@pyroslev]

Alright, this is gonna determine if I'm gonna have to explain a $1000+ purchase to my wife when the credit card statement arrives in two weeks. (Typing this before I even watched anything of the video) You need to test the traditional Crysis Remastered, Arkham Knight and few other older computer buster games. I love playing these older stress test games on current gen hardware. Linux Mint Mate, elementary OS and some Manjaro flavored Linux. They're the ones I rock or us the most other than the server stuff. I'm not ordering today but as soon as I see an update BIOS/software to fix up the few issues, as well as seeing more 7640u reviews.

[@tawmifm]

Please test a couple of competitive games like Counter-Strike 2 and Guilty Gear Strive!

[@MelroyvandenBerg]

Lol... I thought it was 90 degrees Celsius, which you might know.. its kinda hot. Luckily it's Fahrenheit. Much better :)

[@skyguy4164]

Please do warframe 1080p if possible.

[@Will-sc3hw]

Great review! however the upgrade is a lot cheaper for many. I only bought the ryzen 5 board with ddr5 ram. Reused old wifi card, battery etc. ryzen 7 is less value for the money

[@ElevatedSystems]

Value is relative to usecase, but for sure the Ryzen 5 is the best choice for most users.

[@frankwong9486]

The price and long waiting before shipping is the problem , they cant made them fast enough ( possible supplier delay) 😢

[@TeamLinux01]

I would love to see how Satisfactory plays in it.

[@floreslouis]

"Making Framework Great Again" was a tough name, the new one hold more credible weight

[@ElevatedSystems]

The first one had a >13% click through rate. The new one is down to about 5%, but hopefully it should increase SEO.

[@Tom-eu2gq]

Can you test NixOS + CS2 and Touge Shakai :)

[@cdoublejj]

what's Wendoughs?

[@simonvd]

if you can test under linux mint that would be great :)

[@YTesting]

Superb video

[@VideogamesAsArt]

I feel that if you had went for a Ryzen 5 board, you would have saved a lot of money and it would still have been a great upgrade! You lose out on mutlithreading and a bit of graphics performance, but single threading, battery life and such stays the same!

[@ElevatedSystems]

For what I do I need the extra CPU and GPU cores but most ppl will be more than good with the R5 7640U

[@jakefowler4246]

I have the framework 13 with the AMD Ryzen™ 5 7640U has anyone tried it with the 61Wh battery if so did it improve the battery life? Oh, I'm running Windows 11 because I need Dragon Dictate.

[@ElevatedSystems]

Just based on capacity, you will get an 11% uplift in battery life with the 61Wh battery.