Upgrading To A Gotoh Floyd Rose...From Start To Finish

[@Stratamania]

Just a note, Gotoh offer the 1996T with different block heights of 33mm, 36mm or 40mm. The guitar in the video would have benefitted from the 33mm block size as a closer size to the original block.

[@rodjohnon4950]

I've never switched out a trem system. My trem is a 34. So would a 33 fit?

[@gearhead762]

​@@rodjohnon4950yes...

[@lyjex]

@@rodjohnon4950 yeah

[@jimmybiter2936]

Gotoh ge1996t...My preferred replacement unit for upgrade 👍👍👍👍.You rock Joe🤘🤘🤘 FYI --THE BAR ACTUALLY SCREWS IN TO THE UNIT SO THAT YOU CAN SET YOUR HEIGHT AND THEN ADJUST THE TENSION WITH THE ALLEN SCREW ON THE BACK OF THE COLLAR

[@РачилаАлександр]

Great video, thank you! I would also add that out of the box Floyd is absolutely not lubricated. Before installation, it would be nice to lubricate the fine-tuning screws. It is also necessary to lubricate the saddles and knives with graphite grease. This way we will get rid of unnecessary friction and the guitar will build perfectly.

[@brockkeatley4080]

yeah the fine tuners are crusty af

[@Billkwando]

The Gotoh does come pre-lubed. I know because when I had to replace the block with a shorter one, I had to remove all the saddles and the plate was oily where each saddle had been.

[@scod3908]

15:35 When you wedge the cardboard under the trem to set the angle, it's probably a good idea to ensure that it's not pressing against the screws! Blocking the trem from the back side by wedging cardboard between the block and the body is probably a better way of doing it? That way you can get it fully set up, intonated and tuned with a level bridge, and then remove the cardboard/block to adjust the spring tension until it equalises.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Been using this same method for many years. Never had an issue, and the setups have always been a success. Thanks for your input and I hope you have a wonderful Christmas holiday sir. 🎄

[@thesaj1110]

100%

[@geezberry8889]

most people will swap the bolts that tighten the string blocks from the old trem to the gotoh. they will fit and are shorter to allow pullups

[@philipmitchell8085]

You can get 34mm bolts from Schaller.

[@gearhead762]

I said uh oh when you said 40mm block. You needed the 33mm block version for a recessed trem. Not sure if you changed the bridge studs over but its worth doing. The Gotoh units are better and they have a lockdown feature like an Ibanez Edge. Nice guitar 👍

[@Im.unknownn]

tengo exactamente la misma guitarra y planeaba cambiar mi floyd rose especial por gotoh, muchas gracias por este video,

[@serdar213]

I've ordered which has 40x50 block size of this , I hope it will fit to my Jackson Dynky.

[@LHB57]

I jus ordered one for my jem jr and am excited. The factory bridge is okay but an upgrade is always good.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

You will be very satisfied my friend!! Awesome deal!! I hope you have a wonderful day and Rock On!! 🤘

[@Rammetallist]

Sweet Soloist! Nice job and playing!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much for your kindness!! I hope you have a wonderful day and God bless!! 🎸🙏🏻🤘💯

[@rosskrause3926]

I have installed the Gotoh 1996T on several of my guitars..excellent at a great price....what is the name of that tool that has the handle with the 3mm hex for the lockinh nut bolts and string lock bolts..and where did you get it ?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you Ross, for commenting my friend. You can find that tool here www.fu-tone.com/product/3mm-premium-t-handle-wrench/ I hope you have a wonderful day sir and God bless. 🎶 🙏

[@itaiitai8960]

36mm is the perfact fit, BUT u can put magnets and raise it

[@thesaj1110]

Gotoh brand is superb all around!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes sir!! I agree with you 💯%!! 🤘🤘🎸🎸

[@pipelineaudio]

Good choice!!!! lately weve sadly been upgrading OFRs to Gotoh 1996t's. Actually working better for us. I saw some hints that something changed with OFRs and manufacturers were having issues, but not sure

[@peterschaefer1665]

Is the Gotoh a drop in replacement for the Floyd Rose 1000 as well or is the stud location different?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes sir, the Gotoh Floyd Rose system will fit perfectly. What I love about the Gotoh Floyd Rose system, is that one end will hook into the post. And the other end of the system doesn't have the hook design to it. It's just a flat edge. So this eliminates the worry of it lining up perfectly with the posts. All of the systems that I had before the upgrades, were Floyd Rose 1000's. You will be good with the Gotoh Floyd Rose unit. I hope you have a wonderful day sir and God bless!! 🎶

[@Defcon666]

Lol, I don't know why I said Tug on it . Thinkin about gettin a gotoh , not crazy expensive and looks to be a solid upgrade from the FR special .

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes sir, it's a fantastic upgrade for the money. You won't be disappointed. I hope you have a wonderful day man and God bless!! 🎸

[@SloppyGoat]

Actually, you may have messed up on the block. They come in three different sizes, and my Ibanez needed a 33 mm. It depends on how thick the body of your guitar is. Will the back cover fit back on it, without rubbing? I also got the locking screws shortened and rechamfered, so they wouldn't rub the body. But I've heard that regular Floyd Rose locking screws are actually a little bit shorter, and will fit in there. So, that could be an option too. I love my GOTOH!!! I don't think there's a better tremolo out there, really. 😁😎

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

I love the Gotoh Floyd Rose too my friend. They are absolutely fantastic. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a wonderful day sir. 🎵

[@peterschaefer1665]

Did you just leave the original mounting posts in from the old bridge?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes sir, I left the original mounting posts in place. Thank you for watching and commenting my friend and keep rocking!! 🎸

[@vitobratta_WL]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTV but floyd rose specials use zinc mounting posts, and if the gotoh is steel it will wear it off

[@zoltanztoth]

What are the benefits of leaving the original studs in there? Wouldn’t the new ones make the whole system stay in tune better and last longer?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

I did end up replacing the studs not long after the video was originally released.

[@PlayFloyd_IN]

Thanks for the video. ❤️

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you for watching!! I hope you have a wonderful day!! 🎸🤟🎵🎶

[@PlayFloyd_IN]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTV - thank you! I hope you too would have a wonderful day ahead! 🙂❤️🙏

[@pteeng1]

You didn't replace the FR Special's mounting studs and sockets with the Gotoh ones, which basically defeats the point. You will not achieve tuning stability without them.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

I replaced the studs after the video was released. At the time of filming the video, I wasn’t aware that had to be done. But ever since, on every Floyd Rose upgrade that I do, the studs are replaced.

[@pteeng1]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTV I bet you're glad you did. Did you widen the holes yourself or did you get a luthier to do it?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

@ I actually upgraded the posts to high grade posts. So that way all I had to do was unscrew the cheap ones, and screw in the high grade ones. Worked like a charm. Yeah, I learned the hard way. Cheap posts can ruin everything. But through trial and error, and watching other videos, I learned what to do.

[@pteeng1]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTV Good for you. By high grade you mean Original FR ones?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

@ Yes sir. I found them on Amazon.

[@mygt8a4re]

Great vid. To be honest, I thought you were going to change out the Gotoh anchor studs as well, drilling out the original holes to fit. I was really wanting to see this done with hand tools, lol. I keep thinking the lower quality FRS posts have wear spots in them. Great vid none the less, I really enjoyed watching you do the swap! 🤘

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much, Justin!! I did eventually swap out the studs, with upgraded ones. I ordered some better ones from Amazon. And it did make a difference on the quality of the tuning stability. I hope you have a wonderful day and thank you again for watching the video. 🙏🏻🎸💯🤘

[@mygt8a4re]

@TheJoeWentzProjectTV thank you, great content on your channel! I'm trying to find a vid of someone clanging out the studs with regular home tools, lol. Rock on man 🤘

[@thesaj1110]

Please tell me you did change the post of the tremolo??

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Oh absolutely my friend. That’s a definite thing you must do, when upgrading your Floyd System. Thank you so much for watching and commenting sir!! I hope you have a wonderful day and keep rocking!! 🤘🤘💯💯🎸🎸

[@wills8705]

You just need good post. Most ppl replacing their trem is going with a special or a fairly old ofr. If you were to install brand new Floyd posts then you'd be absolutely fine. I'm still searching for the video where someone installed a 1996t with existing Floyd posts in great condition, and had tuning issues.

[@kalleankaa7536]

Weere you using thesame floyd special post to go with the gotoh bridge?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes, I sure did my friend. Everything lined up perfectly. Thanks for watching and commenting, and I hope you have a wonderful day!! 🎵

[@kalleankaa7536]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTVthanks for replying. Did it stay well in tune after a pull up? I heared that gotoh has a rounded tip edge and post compared to a sharp edge of a floyd.

[@AndyDion]

Nice install Joe! Gotoh Floyd’s look sweet, I have a original Floyd on my 91 Alvarez that works good but block is definitely not that big

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much, Andy!! Yes sir, I was definitely impressed with the Brass Block that comes with the Gotoh. It does make a difference with sustainability. I used to never believe that. But I know now that it works. Thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend and Rock On!! 🎶🎵🤟

[@Rickyhoyle]

Man you are a go getter 🎸🎸🎸

[@metallicaspiker16]

Dumb question, but is there any routing needed? I have Jackson Kellys and I’m thinking about putting this trem in both of them to replace the crappy Floyd Specials.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you for watching and commenting sir!! Man, that’s not a dumb question at all. No sir, with the replacements that I had performed (which were Floyd Rose Specials) there was no routing needed. So I would imagine you shouldn’t have to deal with that. Should just drop right into place. But may I say, do yourself a favor and also upgrade the trem posts also. If you don’t, the upgraded Floyd will not hold tuning, because the trem posts are soft metal. You can find Floyd Rose 1000 Trem Posts on Amazon, with no problem. I hope you have a wonderful day and God bless!! 🙏🏻🤘🎸💯🎵🎶

[@metallicaspiker16]

@@TheJoeWentzProjectTV thank you so much! I hope to get these installed pretty soon! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@davespin9034]

Nicely done. Like the Gotoh

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much my friend!! I appreciate your kind words sir and I hope you have a wonderful day!! Rock On and God bless!! 🎸🤟

[@adhaskym.a9536]

What is that bridge pickup? Sounds very well.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you for watching and commenting my friend. It's just a stock Jackson Humbucker bridge pickup. I never upgraded it. 🤘💯🎸

[@ATOM314159]

Will the EVH D Tuna work with the Gotoh?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend. I honestly don't know if the D-Tuna would work on the Gotoh Floyd Rose. I would imagine that it would. As long as it's an official Floyd Rose unit, it should work. But, I've never tried it myself. But if you feel like tuning into my podcast this Saturday evening at 9pm, we can ask the panel and definitely find out for you. We have some knowledgeable folks on there that can answer this question. I hope you have a wonderful day man and God bless!! 🎸

[@Hayk143]

Its jackson slx dx

[@R2R3Lockingnut]

Right on Brother 👊🏼 I am not a big fan of the Floyd Rose special. I am a big fan of the Original Floyd Rose from Germany because I am a Floyd snob 😆 but those Gotoh Floyds are excellent. They are quality and reliable. Great choice my friend and thanks for sharing

[@daverandles7777]

I just built a guitar myself Joe it’s fine but I’m having a problem keeping in tune it doesn’t have a Floyd Rose it’s just a fixed bridge

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you for the comment, Mr. Randles. If it were me, I would check two things. First, the tuners. I'm not sure what tuners you have on the guitar, but if they're inexpensive...this could be a reason. Second, the nut. Also, the same applies for this as well. It could possibly be cut poorly, so tuning would definitely be affected. I hope this helps my friend. Thank you again and I hope you have a wonderful day sir. 🎵

[@al23x56]

Anyone experienced any issues with adjusting intonation after installing Gotoh FR? Is there enough clearance in FR cavity? I think my standard FR cavity is 80mm, so just wondering if there's enough room for those saddle screws?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

I had that issue with a couple of my guitars. But then I found that you can swap out the long screws, for shorter ones. It makes things a lot easier, if you run into that problem. The link below will direct you to where you can purchase the replacement screws. It comes with three types. The long locking screws, the front saddle screws...and the locking screws for the nut. And the great thing is, these replacement screws are stainless steel. A fantastic upgrade, if you choose to do so. Thanks for watching and commenting my friend. I hope you have a wonderful day sir!! 🎵 Guyker 6 Pcs String Lock Screws, 3 Pcs Locking Nut Screws and 6 Pcs Saddle Mounting Screws for FR Tremolo System Bridge Electric Guitar a.co/d/iXhSfPY

[@gabedestellano]

Amazon 139.00

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you very much for the info!! I went ahead and grabbed one from Amazon, yesterday!! I hope you have a wonderful day and God bless!! 🎸

[@thagrtcornholi0588]

You dont replace the studs?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

I did, but later on. I had to order some. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!! I hope you have a wonderful day man!! 🎵

[@philcasogonzo14]

Anyone know if a Kelly uses a 33mm block?

[@6StringsOfSalvation]

can u share a link for the screws?

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Hey Jonathan, I'm assuming you're referring to the locking screws. Here is what I order & it comes with three different sets. One set for the locking nut, and two sets for the Floyd Rose system itself. I feel that you would find this useful. I hope you have a wonderful day man and God bless. 🎸 Guyker 6 Pcs String Lock Screws, 3 Pcs Locking Nut Screws and 6 Pcs Saddle Mounting Screws for FR Tremolo System Bridge Electric Guitar a.co/d/1fXiz4X

[@Mark-OutWest]

It's a shame the Floyd's come with tiers of quality. Most out there seem to be the junk tier. The Gotoh comes with one tier of quality. That says everything right there.

[@Kris-ex6yk]

I’m looking to replace my special on a Jackson kvxmg and I was curious if this trem would be an easy swap. I really like string spacing of the special but the quality is really bad. Did you buy a new nut or does it come with new trem? Cheers!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Hey Chris, thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend. I just swapped out the trem for the new Gotoh Floyd Rose system. And yes, I found it to be an easy swap. I didn't replace the locking nut, as the stock one on the Jackson was sufficient. I hope this helps and I hope you have a wonderful day and keep rocking!! 🤘🎵🎶🎸

[@Neshek023]

You didn't replace the posts? Your problem is NOT solved!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

@@Neshek023 Calm down bro. At the time of filming this video, I wasn’t aware of swapping out the posts. But after some time passed, I did swap out the posts. So the problem is solved.

[@f7viivvgiv]

It's Jackson slxm dk guitar

[@f7viivvgiv]

It's my dream guitar but it's unavailable in India

[@pwnEdge1]

Gotoh’s are the go to’s😂 I love a floyd rose original (US or Germany), Ibanez Edge and gotoh, but a floyd made over sea’s , I hear a difference ,there very bright and you can’t get rid of it. It’s the cheap metal they make them out of

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you for watching and commenting my friend!! I hope you have a wonderful day!! 🎵

[@maraudermusic2714]

Also a Gotoh fan. They have them for 7 string now too!! Did a video talking about this too.

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

That's awesome man!! Yes sir, they are absolutely fantastic Floyd Rose systems!! I hope you have a wonderful day sir and keep rocking!! 🎸🎵🎶🤟

[@TheLukster100]

Am I correct in saying you left the original stud mounts in? If so why, and are they easy to replace with the gotoh ones? Thanks

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Hey Lukster, thank you for your comment my friend. Yes sir, I just left the original posts in, because I didn't see any reason to remove them. They were fine the way they were. Everything still lined up perfectly. So I just decided to go with that. And it did very well. Thank you for commenting sir and I hope you have a wonderful day!! 🎸

[@jrg770]

Just a FYI. Replacing the studs depends on the new bridge base plate material. If the old plate was zinc alloy, and the studs are zinc alloy, and the new bridge has a steel base plate = change the posts to steel ones as well (the bridge likely came with them). Always make sure the posts are made of the same hardness as the base plate (knife edges) or one of the parts will wear down prematurely. The worst thing you can do is upgrade to a steel base plate and use it with softer (zinc alloy) posts. The Floyd Rose special uses a steel base plate and so does the gotoh so I would imagine it is ok to leave them. I bet the gotoh studs (anchors) and posts weigh more than the special though.

[@salimerko]

@@jrg770 Exactly my thoughts... The studs will wear out soon, or not if already

[@mokkacicc4.019]

​@@salimerkoFrom what I've gathered the mounting studs for the gotoh are actually a lot bigger than the floyd rose ones so you would have to drill new holes into your guitar... Or you could buy Floyd Rose original studs

[@philcasogonzo14]

⁠@@mokkacicc4.019need a 11mm bit. It’s a must to use the gotoh studs.

[@RickJames-n4d]

The FR Specials are really junk. The metal is just too soft. Stripped out a saddle the second string change. The Gotoh is a much nicer unit. Thanks for the video!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Thank you so much my friend for watching and commenting!! Merry Christmas to you and your family sir!! 🎅 🎄

[@tipodearriba]

is not a floyd rose, is a GOTOH!!! floydrose is a brand and gotoh is another brand!!!

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yeah man, I’m aware of that now. You ever made a mistake before?

[@123pap]

If you're spending that kinda $ you might as well get a real Floyd Rose that thing looks like pot metal and cheap, thanks for the video though 😉

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

@@123pap Gotoh trem systems are high quality. The Floyd Rose Specials are low quality.

[@THE_JACKAL666]

Hey buddy, im wondering if tour had problems keeping your Gotoh in tune since you didn't swap the studs into the ancors. The "special" studs are also garbage, and I heard lots of people saying if you don't swap the "special" studs for the original floyd Rose studs, the Gotoh won't stay in tune correctly. I know the special studs can't be swaped by the Gotoh studs since they are thicker

[@TheJoeWentzProjectTV]

Yes sir, I had to swap out the studs for better quality ones, after the video was posted. Thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend. I hope you have a wonderful day sir. 🙏🏻🤘🎸

[@THE_JACKAL666]

@TheJoeWentzProjectTV Right on, brother 🤘