Upgrading to Electric Power Steering

[@electricsupercar]

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[@JerryRigEverything]

way quieter than hydraulic. Good choice!

[@hamishahern2055]

are you sure its quieter than the belt driven power steering? The electric sounds too loud to me? although the engine could be louder than it? I would like to hear it with the engine running.

[@RealRickCox]

Who needs a steering committee when the solution is as simple as watching Electric Supercar. Thanks for another informative and educational video for everyone making these conversions!

[@desidemars8201]

This looks like an amazing solution. Definitely appreciate showing the diagnostic work added in.

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks for watching!

[@Kurogane-san]

Really nice video. I love that you take us through the entire process, even the shortcomings.

[@future-matze-35]

100% agree 🚀

[@mmccon2007]

Something else to think about, your DC/DC converter is going to have to stand up to the extra demand of the pump to keep the 12 volt battery happy. I suppose you will size it accordingly.

[@electricsupercar]

1500W

[@evjpgarage4976]

"that's a piece of junk" ...... GOLD !!!! fixed all your problems!!!!!!! Great tutorial!

[@electricsupercar]

I'm glad you got a laugh out of it!

[@MikesTropicalTech]

Yeah you're not getting 45 amps out of your 5 amp bench power supply. :^) Glad they're both working!

[@FranciscoJavier32423]

That is a really good solution, easier than change all the direction things. Please check if when adjusting the height of the maneuver it does not interfere with the sensor.

[@salzar4431]

I asked you about this type of system when you were doing the Nissan’s steering. I really like it, any noise it creates seems well worth it, given you don’t need to modify the column and aren’t increasing the input torque to the rack. If I was capable of a project like this, I would pick this system.👍

[@patricke3848]

The power supply was definitely current limiting, which is why it was pulsing on/off. Nice work on these installations!

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks, that's a good observation!

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Solid troubleshooting. It must have been nice to just apply the same power steering setup to the Jeep, once you worked out the bugs. This looks like a good PS solution for future EV projects, moving forward.

[@electricsupercar]

It will definitely be used for future projects.

[@mmccon2007]

Those power supplies usually aren't rated for the kind of current needed for a large pump motor. If it draws 50 amps, I am used to seeing like 30 amps MAX from a power supply. That kit seems like a really nice and simple solution for cars that already had a fluid pump installed. It would be interesting to see if they could change the pump speed based on a vehicle speed signal to vary the feel of the steering. Unlike the original system, the new one could be "tuned" to improve the feel at all speeds. Great content!

[@electricsupercar]

That's a great idea!

[@Essential_OS]

Keep up the great work! upload more frequently! we're eager to see more content.

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks! More videos coming soon.

[@houseofno]

I thought the tech guy calling your power supply "a piece of junk" was kind of harsh, but I totally appreciate that you got routed to obviously American English speaking tech support. You really don't see that very often. It's really tough to troubleshoot something from halfway around the world without trying to sort out what some Asian Indian or Chinese tech support person is trying to tell you in some thick accent. Kudos on getting this running. A forty five amp fuse is pretty high, but if it works, that's what counts.

[@electricsupercar]

👍 Great support

[@mavi5477]

Man, You do GREAT work and you are so knowledgeable. You have a AMAZING skill sets.

[@electricsupercar]

I appreciate that!

[@dinghy4344]

Wedding singer playing in the background, LOVE IT!

[@electricsupercar]

🙌

[@LG-ct8tw]

Two grands here six grands there, pretty soon you're talking some serious money.

[@LanyDay]

I had nothing to watch this week, till now

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@AD-nn3vl]

Keep up the good work! Have been watching from the beginning and your videos have gotten better and better.

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks for watching!

[@CBWP]

Your editing is much improved. Nice cuts. More action... The hose part was almost gif like.

[@spinnetti]

Dropping in an EPS from a Prius or other models that use the same thing in-line in the column is cleaner and no doubt cheaper - I did that in my Lexus LS and it works really well - just a couple wires - power, ground and key. its small and under the dash so a very clean installation.

[@electricsupercar]

I have done that as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2TEn2mvnbdrnKM Advantages and disadvantages to each method

[@detroit123-y9o]

What is the best power steering pump and what is the best power steering

[@suryavanshib]

Awesome 😎😎😎 Best wishes 🎉🎉🎉 Keep it up 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@electricsupercar]

Thanks!

[@Skiridr22]

Maybe it needs a signal from the ignition along with the battery power

[@wonkypegworkshop]

Interesting options. Power steering is one area of my wagoneer project I havent managed to button down yet. Want to convert from the steering box to a rack so maybe a prius column with a manual rack, or I know some of the newer jeeps have an electric rack… decisions decisions.

[@bradbrowatzke7236]

Another great and educational video! It sounds like it's the amperage your power supply is is lacking for the tests on this. Have you told Zack about the new pump system yet?

[@electricsupercar]

He changed his system some time ago to pure electric steering column.

[@ranig2848]

Is there a way to control how much power assist? can it be adjustable based on speed of the vehicle?

[@brentbrewer5296]

I think I'd rather have the pump run based on wheel speed. Maybe some sort of override (defeat) if your in traffic or "park"

[@electricsupercar]

Interesting 🤔

[@michaelcummings7246]

I've had a couple cars that sensed road speed and reduced the power assist at higher speeds. It gave you the same feel while parking or on the freeway or perhaps just a little heavier at high speeds which made for better stability. Much better then some other cars that get almost squirrelly.

[@Wigwhom86]

This could be easily accomplished with your traditional electric power steering column and a PWM controller

[@elitecpudoc329]

was the goal to have the pump run off or the battery from the beginning? i had wonder what the purpose of the psu was from the jump.

[@sveip]

Make sure to get that steering fluid off the paint before it eats it. ;)

[@arpinchock]

Nice... does anyone know if there are heat pumps out there to replace the coolant based heaters and car air conditioners?

[@alexandreapril5694]

Search for tesla Octo valve, they have been using heat pumps for many years

[@mmccon2007]

Tesla uses PTC heaters on their earlier cars and heat pumps on the newer ones. Good luck finding either one in kit form.

[@J.P.__]

Nice. Good work. I'm not familiar with the positives and negatives of the different systems, might make for an interestign video.

[@electricsupercar]

More to come!

[@rjung_ch]

Cheers Jeremy 👍💪✌

[@electricsupercar]

🙌

[@moreybandel5560]

Great video, Jeremy. So, the power supply has voltage but not much amperage? Unlike the battery...

[@electricsupercar]

Yes, I think the power supply is good up to 30amps

[@KeithJenkinsvideos]

Volvo C30 has a very quiet pump

[@electricsupercar]

Good to know!

[@jasgap]

Wondering how EPS would on 1 ton axels with 40s

[@ross_12345]

Is it just the close up angle or does this pump seem quite big?

[@szymonszym2082]

Great video. Btw, did you changed this welded steering shaft in Nissan? It didn't look safe.

[@electricsupercar]

The plan for the Nissan is to use the model 3 steering rack. More modifications are needed.

[@Skwisgar2322]

I mean, I think you should know if it can pull up to 45A, you probably should have at least a 55A fuse. Or did they suggest the 45A fuse?

[@PetesWorkshop]

How does the steering angle sensor ‘key’ onto the shaft?

[@electricsupercar]

I believe itil is an electromagnetic field sensor that detects the rotation of the shaft inside. There is no "key" but it does need to sense the rotation so it needs to be fixed and allow the shaft to spin inside.

[@metalworker3]

Passing the large connector through the firewall option 3: make diagram of back of connector, then remove pins. Pass through, reassemble…. ?

[@electricsupercar]

Good idea!

[@vigilante351]

Astra and Volvo power steering systems are way easier and compact than that system is. They don't need any of those sensors and just use the normal power steering lines, and can fit behind front guards behind fender liners. Just need to upgrade your alternator to 100amp plus. Check them out if you have time.

[@electricsupercar]

Interesting!

[@E90m3superchargedGr]

From where did you buy it I can’t found it

[@13thyuvi]

When you put the steering sensor on, how do you ensure that the white part of the sensor rotates with the steering shafts? Is it just a tight fit or did you make some kind of adapter in between?

[@electricsupercar]

White part does not need to rotate. It is not a mechanical sensor. Electromagnetic field sensor

[@13thyuvi]

@electricsupercar wow, I recently worked with a similar steering angle sensor which had a notch and had to be mechanically coupled with the steering shaft which was a pain in the rear. Can you please help me with the part number of the sensor you used if possible? Just asking to check if this sensor is an absolute angle sensor or if it just detects rotation.

[@rfrbz1269]

Is it not possible to tap into the SAS already in the JEEP? Lots of modern vehicles have SAS due to traction control and vehicle stability control

[@electricsupercar]

Good question

[@beebop9351]

Is plastic really a good material to use to hold something like a pump? The continued stress from driving and bumps will eventually fatigue the bolt holes won't it?

[@josephjones4293]

I thought he mentioned converting with send cut send component and that those were prototype solutions… but perhaps I’m confused?

[@jurgens9867]

@@josephjones4293 I think he wanted to see results. Is it working or not. The final attachment will be aluminum.

[@electricsupercar]

The 3d print is to confirm propper placement. Metal ones from SendCutSend are on their way

[@yuboqiu1089]

what 3D printing filament did you use to make the bracket for the sensor?

[@electricsupercar]

It is a temporary fixture made from PLA. Metal fixtures will come from SendCutSend

[@yuboqiu1089]

@@electricsupercar Thanks!

[@rbuschy]

Those Battery Terminals add-ons?

[@electricsupercar]

You mean the battery post adapters?

[@rbuschy]

@@electricsupercar ya, noticed they were on both vehicles

[@zyourself71]

Have you ever used a lithium ion 12v battery? I am curious if you have any experience/recommendations especially for these ev swaps.

[@danipranata247]

Nice video

[@kodak_jack]

Do you have constant battery power to the pump or is it key switched? It almost sounded as if it's constant and we know that's not right. It'll drain the battery.

[@electricsupercar]

It has wiring for both. It is only "on" when switched power is provided

[@jamesray9009]

I wish I could have gotten the better scanner I gotta hook to my PC

[@electricsupercar]

Link in the description

[@tylerbodell6397]

How long did that take to develop in cad? Something I have wanted to learn, but seems to be a daunting task.

[@josephjones4293]

Cad is literally just drawing lines boxes and circles, extruding them to 3d shapes until it looks like what you want… super easy… fusion 360 is free

[@sojhinn]

45 A fuse is huge... Kinda nuts it needs that much amperage.

[@electricsupercar]

I know, right!?!

[@JJayzX]

@@electricsupercar With having only 12V to work with and to make high pressure with an electric motor requires a lot of umph. The power supply that was being used is probably just 10-20 amps. I have a project that required high amperage from 12V and so I got a server power supply on ebay cheap. This one can dump out 65 amps and there's higher.

[@TheRealMrCods]

Great solution but its a no for Mitsubishi. 👍

[@marvinpurdy8284]

Power Brakes and now Power Assist Steering. Probably going to need a second 12v battery to keep the system ready for driving? Just kidding, that "up to 45 amp" draw is probably not needed for small movements encountered during normal driving. 😁

[@BubbaOfTheZew]

I saw that adapter on the battery terminals and thought "that little fella is putting in some hard work."

[@electricsupercar]

Not the final solution

[@rkeantube]

Did you consider removing the hydraulic system, Electric Power Steering (EPS) Conversion would eliminate the need for pump.

[@electricsupercar]

Like the power assisted column or power assisted rack?

[@rkeantube]

@@electricsupercar yep, like what you did with the KIA

[@MrFoxRobert]

👋👍

[@electricsupercar]

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[@billcompton6050]

HELLO looking at all these conversions i am curious if you would be interested in converting a honda odyssey mini-van. i know the engine has a cradle and is front wheel drive only. I am also interetsed in making all the camping-cooking devices high voltage electric for camping on and off grid. just some thoughts. I am purchaing the van this spring and will have plenty oif time to get this converted. if you're interested in something like this please let me know. i will be upgrading the suspension, brakes, all non engine systems. No point in wasting money on the engine and all of its support systems. bill c 2007 honda odyssey 190 k miles

[@electricsupercar]

Send me an email [e-mail]

[@darkdaw77]

can't you use a Tesla pump that is super silent?

[@mmccon2007]

Tesla does not use a pump. They use fully electric steering gears.

[@darkdaw77]

@mmccon2007 thnx, didn't know this. I guess in this case it is not possible to fit it

[@password9384]

Algo

[@electricsupercar]

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[@CBWP]

I am not sure how to make this constructive, but it's part of engineering to match the load and the source. Im not sure how you thought that tiny power supply had 45 amps and why you used a 30 when you stated that you knew it was supposed to be the 45. Also... That's 540 watts. That sounds huge for a hydraulic pump. Idk lol. I have been watching since you cann hacked the first tesla ❤

[@ElectroAtletico]

....just waiting for someone to pop on the thread and say "But how do you steer after an EMP strike?"

[@electricsupercar]

Sterring works just fine, just won't have any power assist

[@SuperUbuntudude]

[@davidgoff5883]

Come on everyone share Jeremy's Electric Supercar Channel he needs to be at 250,000 Subscribers at least - but he's currently 149k so he's a 1000 off 150k - show him some love! 👍

[@electricsupercar]

👍

[@BobbeeSingh]

younger Al Gore?

[@kordovakobi]

It’s too loud

[@bratindustries]

Mr.bussbar is back! Grab the 🍿 folks, what reckless and dangerous mods is he going to show us next

[@salzar4431]

Didn’t see any, looks like the best way of retaining power steering when doing an EV conversion to me.

[@josephjones4293]

I’m curious why the hate? Did I miss an episode?

[@bratindustries]

@@salzar4431 this video was actually not to bad, but the rest of his videos there are some foolish/scary designs and fabrication, especially if these cars are for customers

[@bratindustries]

@@josephjones4293 look back through the rest of his videos.

[@metalworker3]

⁠I suspect these early adopter customers are well informed of the services being provided. Part of the benefit of Jeremy posting these videos is the community feedback. Participate how you want.

[@Kmnri]

Using non metric pieces on car is bad idea. Whole automotive world is metric.