Orlando Jones On His 'American Gods' Firing And Representation In Hollywood | People's Party Clip

In this clip from next week's "People's Party with Talib Kweli," Kweli and co-host Jasmin Leigh chat with actor, comedian, and writer Orlando Jones about playing the character Anansi on 'American Gods,' writing for the show, and the behind-the-scenes drama that surrounded his firing.
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[@UPROXXVideo]

Anyone else see that Anansi cartoon as kids?

[@masongrae5010]

Was told stories by word of mouth every night by my step father rest his soul.

[@311Dominique]

That one got pass me as a kid

[@streetsiswatching9660]

🙋🏿‍♂️

[@koodsoaa9546]

Caribbean people know it, a slick tongued Spider.

[@ShawnWeeded510]

Nah. Was way to busy watching obscure Marvel cartoons like Silver Surfer. Idk what channel that even popped up on.

[@darock441]

The speech he gave the slaves in American Gods bruh? That shit gave me chills! AND EVERYTHING HES TELLING THEM rings true today.

[@calvintillman9250]

Me too. It lit a fire 🔥 in my spirit. I needed to hear those words.

[@simonfarre4907]

I find it so strange that someone like Talib fails to realise the self serving nature, the cunning, deceitful never ending quest for power that Mr Nancy represents - he is so much like Oden in that regard. He even tells the slaves that they should die a sacrifice, he doesn't say to what or whom, but anyone who watches the show would know it is a sacrifice to *him* - that makes him more powerful. Just as how Shadow Moon sacrifices himself to Oden, blood sacrifices are the most powerful things to the gods. Yet people watch that sequence as if its some liberation speech. That's not what it is, Mr Nancy is looking for power, like all the gods, and like all the trickster gods he is willing to deceive and trick them into doing things, to serve him and his power, he is willing to play them like strings, using their human nature against themselves.

[@pugdad2555]

@@simonfarre4907 but he was able to do that because what he was saying was true.

[@squamish4244]

@@simonfarre4907 The gods in American Gods don't lie. They can decide to tell you part of the truth or withhold information, or say nothing. But they don't lie.

[@simonfarre4907]

@@squamish4244 Odin and Mr Nancy are both tricksters and master manipulators. Deceiving is the core to their entire mythos in the show.

[@heruammen8522]

The Funeral Home Speech caused me to experience great anguish, anger, and a profound sense of responsibility to do something to change the narrative. Never have I experienced such strong and profound emotions from any other dramatic work in my life!

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

Hm.

[@kam3410]

And that is what they are afraid of.

[@Cactuspresidents]

Anansi was one of the best written and performed characters i have ever seen on a tv series! So sad that we will not get to see more of him!

[@thatcarlchick7655]

Not to mention best dressed! Just such a great character all the way around.

[@debrapatton90]

This man acting skills are out of this world... Salute 🫡

[@Tony-eg3gi]

I didnt know that he helped write most of season 2. Now I'm even more pissed that he's not involved with American Gods. Wtf man.

[@johng7346]

I remember hearing rumors that he was writing on the show as they were filming. He is an awesome character writer & developer. His presence was greatly missed. Season 3 was such an utter disappointment.

[@shemyazadrolfossendam8156]

When I heard Anansi addressing the other gods about the plight of our people and he uttered "War is upon us!" Oh my f******n' god...

[@goddessaset]

Cuz it is.... Physically, Spiritually.... All of it. That moment was so real

[@calvintillman9250]

Yes. “War is upon us.” I seek the God of my African ancestors for guidance.

[@kevinm1579]

I kinda fell out from this show a while ago but I absolutely loved most of season one and Mr. Jones’s Anansi was extremely powerful and a big part of my love for the show. The fact that he wrote so much of this show just makes my respect go even higher.

[@mechtech220]

Orlando gave out SO many gems in this clip! My gawd! That dude needs to drop bars more often!!

[@Vino_Czar]

💯

[@pauldempsey5996]

That opening speech was so fuckin powerful, I'm a white dude and I've watched that scene over and over and shared it with so many people, it was so damn emotional

[@aleasecreates]

THANK YOU YES IT WAS PHENOMENAL

[@Rahsaun77]

Orlando, This show will be 100% less interesting without your presence.

[@gerardrbain1972]

No Anansi no American Gods,. That's my mindset.

[@UPROXXVideo]

speak on it

[@Rahsaun77]

gerard bain agreed

[@eyedee6353]

I couldn’t even get through season two. It was trash.

[@antoinehicks2681]

Saw the Trailer and wasn't interested without him

[@nkosistrainbullies5806]

People shouldn't be shocked they cancelled black panther cartoon but people loved black panther so much.

[@jdkincorporated4577]

Right?! I thought the animated show on BET was phenomenal and more in line with the comic arc for the characters!

[@OgIKidd]

@@jdkincorporated4577 I don't think the BET show was ever intended to go beyond what was made. Marvel does one off motion comic adaptations with the same animation style that only get shown once or a few times here and there. Black Panther, Thor & Loki, Astonishing X-Men, a few Wolverine ones, and I think there's an Iron Man one too.

[@LiLiWhittWhitt]

Orlando is a talented writer and actor and Anansi needs his own series. Seriously. I’m glad Orlando the genius is on our team. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@josephineicuka-asumo2570]

Orlando Jones should do a series called 'This is America, the Mr Nancy version. Where he talks about the systematic racism and inequality that has continuously gone on in America. How old laws have always been recycled into every generation but been given in different ways (same shoes different feet). The show, 'This is America will give you the raw unfiltered version of the truth but in a 8 part series. Just an idea I had in mind for Orlando Jones to consider, if he wrote American Gods then his input would be needed into this show. I'm just brainstorming this idea that somebody should do, but the role will be Orlando Jones as My Nancy as "Angry Gets Shit Done". Pilot, 1st episode would be called 'The Calm before the Storm'. The 2nd episode would be called 'Shine your eyes, 3rd episode 'The Awakening', 4th episode 'The Grass isn't Greener.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 (someone send this to Orlando Jones). #This is America#

[@josephineicuka-asumo2570]

It would be the unapologetic truth, but first it will piss you off. I'm brainstorming an idea that I hope will come to fruition.

[@Vivvy1]

Girrrrlll!!!....Yes...may TMH guide you...

[@bodydoublesecurity4987]

Have you done anything with this amazing concept?

[@josephineicuka-asumo2570]

@bodydoublesecurity4987 sadly no, it was an idea that I had, and I had already thought up the concept. I hope someone can do something with it. It would be a good show if it came into fruition. I like to brainstorm ideas and put them out there.

[@matthewkolb9950]

Echoing others to say, the show is dead to me without him. Jones was the embodiment of Anansi. I reread the book recently and to me he's now the face of Mr. Nancy. Check out Anansi Boys also by Gaiman, if you like the character and a good story.

[@tammydavis5180]

I will be getting the book... THANKS MATT

[@NoneMcNobody]

I've only seen season 1, mr. Nancy was mesmerizing. Orlando Jones is fucking mezmerizing as an actor. Tell me if I'm wrong, but Ansansi in American Gods struck me as an agent of chaos and mischief, like the Norse Aesir Loki. His path leads to knowledge and a personal choice; greater wisdom or destruction. Sometimes both. I'm seriously bummed Orlando's not on the show anymore, his contributions made season 1 incredible. The books and this show tapped into humanity's main artery of mythology and folklore, all of which I love. And why the fuck would Anansi NOT be angry.....

[@goddessaset]

Well Anansi.... Is the Trickster deity of the Ashanti people in Africa.... soooooo Anansi is arguably older than Norse mythology based on the Viking age and the thousands of years prior that the ancient African tribes existed. But that's neither here nor there. Orlando is great. The character was great. This show is now going to do the same thing they always do now.... Glaze over the power and issues of Black ppl and the deities they brought from Africa..

[@Lolife86]

Orlando Bloom ? Never played into American Gods.

[@NoneMcNobody]

@@Lolife86 Noted, I've updated the name, thanks for catching that.

[@Wittemn]

You do know Germanic mythology existed prior to the Viking age, right?

[@NoneMcNobody]

@@Wittemn I do, yes. I suspect you're responding to goddassaset above. Germanic myth goes back thousands of years prior to the Proto Indo-European people's who migrated west from the present day region of northern India/afghanistan, that is where the Yamnaya and later Scythian people originate from, who were early parts of that migration. It's why Zeus and Odin/Thor have so many similarities.

[@michaellwalker8748]

Seeing the baby in the background just living her young life. Beautiful.

[@typeorulz]

What a cool upbringing these children must be enjoying! Having a great dad is a true blessing. 🙏

[@anthonyhilton1709]

The show isn't the same. I really believe they felt his character was becoming bigger than the show itself.

[@MuammarHamed]

This brother Orlando is the real deal and he always has been his refusal to completely sell out to Hollywood has been the difference between him being in the same class with Eddie Murphy. Love this brother Orlando I will continue to support every project he participates in whether it's in front of the camera or behind the scenes

[@Chandraleila]

I was so hopeful for this show and especially LOVED Orlando Jones, Nancy was honestly the best character to me. It's a shame that they decided the character wasn't the "role model" they wanted, I mean, look the fuck around, he's exactly the role model needed! It's what made him such a polarizing and grabbing character to begin with.

[@vlonebandit3359]

Shut up karen

[@Chandraleila]

@@vlonebandit3359 So you're telling me to shut up because I liked Orlando Jones and Nancy? ...ok guy that makes tons of sense.

[@vlonebandit3359]

JadeEclypse yes

[@Chandraleila]

@@vlonebandit3359 whatever

[@michaelrodriguez-qv9sh]

Can't wait to make it big as a director and win this man an Oscar

[@sunzshotcuts1162]

DO IT

[@ViktorEBoss]

No Anansi no American gods for me 🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@TheJamaican777]

Same here. Boycott

[@TopFlightSecurity415]

i just dont get why they would fire everyone from the first season even though everyone loved it, from then on it has been lack luster to me smh

[@LilSamuels]

The series is an already dead asshole...burn the series down!!! 😂😂😂

[@TheProperPerspective]

At one i TRIED to watch it without Orlando cuz they do have 2 other powerful black characters/actors.... but.. other than fast forwarding just to see them....i cant!

[@yahyaibnmartey7626]

Facts

[@Mrsniffles17]

Honestly the cast of the show is wack for not standing up with him I’m sure if they had stuck together they would’ve been fine

[@KabbalahSherry]

Facts 😤💯

[@firmnstrongfitness7637]

"The office" cast did just that and it turned out well for them. So I would agree with you.

[@FinneySP]

That “your fucked” speech sent chills down my spine

[@kkurajam]

It’s crazy that he did so much work when it wasn’t even his primary function in the show and they gave him nothing for it. Like he should have a whole episode focused on Nancy and permanent producer chair

[@fitawrarifitness6842]

His experience on the show is a reflection of the Black experience in America. *Let that sizzle...

[@alfredojohannes6827]

@@fitawrarifitness6842 you beat me to it. He might as well have been talking to a cargo hold Of SAG POC.

[@nitroluskincaid]

Story of my life!! Every Black person in America has that story!! Our talents are appropriated and we are cast aside never given a real shot!! That would be too much like RIGHT!!

[@jewelz562jk]

As a Caribbean I grew up with stories of Brah-naci or Ananci spider. And I was so excited to see this part of my childhood on TV. And I was truly sad to hear Orlando was fired from the series. Honestly I'm ready for a show or movie center around Ananci. DO IT FOR US ORLANDO 😍🥰

[@alfredojohannes6827]

I concur. A spin off would be very welcomed.

[@dresdencypher]

@@alfredojohannes6827Neil caiman DID make a book focusing on anansi called anansi boys, about anansi and his children each of which inherited different aspects of the trickster

[@celestialnubian]

AG showed the world that Orlando Jones was a top tier actor. It's wild to think this is the same guy from the 90s Sprite commercials.

[@crimson49er]

Orlando was freakin amazing on American Gods. Every time he was in a scene, it made me sit on the edge of my seat. His Anansi is one of my favorite on screen characters of all time.

[@philrel9258]

Orlando was the reason i startsd watching that show

[@St.Santii]

Yo he said CULTURE VULTURE!!! I just died!!

[@punishercork]

Thats a good term for white kids that dress and act black.

[@madelinebromwich5117]

Not watching American Gods anymore. It won't be the same show without him.

[@Rahsaun77]

Madeline Bromwich me either, I had no idea he was so involved.

[@goddessaset]

Facts, I don't want it.

[@KiKat373]

I'm so damn disappointed that he's gone. Anansi was an amazing character

[@WellDamn24]

Orlando Jones has always been incredibly interesting. I need to follow him to see what other projects he’s working on. I’d love to see some shows that he executive produces. I like him as an actor but I do feel that his artistic and cultural aesthetic needs to go wider than just what he acts on. And it would be bomb if he could bring back Mad TV or some other sketch comedy show. It is sorely missing on the national state and SNL is just not cutting it. I’m watching a lot of great comedians, but I’d love to see a unified attempt at cultural discourse with a comedic edge.

[@eddietowers5595]

I'm Puerto Rican and Anansi was my first superhero. When I was read the story of Anansi from the Ashanti story, and then saw the same cartoon, reading Neil Gaiman's Anansi's Boys and American Gods. I've always ran towards anything Anansi because he's the one hero I wanna meet but when Orlando Jones brought my first favored hero to life I didn't know Mr. Jones would be the hero I'd need to meet. I mean for all intents and purposes, his two performance speeches on the slave ship and funeral parlor had literally stole the show from main stars, who, through the 3 seasons have never conveyed such performances so poignant, they couldn't overshadow Mr Jones. The stars had some unintended shoes to fill and new they couldn't and didn't like it, I'm speculating, of course.

[@LuzMaria95]

I’m Puerto Rican and I feel the same way. Anansi is the God I relate to the most. I love him in the books too.

[@tahseti1113]

We need ownership and there's no way around it. You'll never be king in another man's castle.

[@originaleverythingelseisca5977]

Exactly. So true!!

[@SupaCoop30]

Can't wait to see this full interview!!

[@raininthespringtime]

Orlando Jones is such an amazing,intelligent handsome, person and actor.

[@user-nubiangoddess]

We grew up on the anancy story in Jamaica.. We read books about brother Nancy..he was a cunning character

[@StrawberryQwik]

I did not know they tried to play Orlando. I don't watch much TV, but I've seen his highly commanding clips. This is a brilliant man. For astrology buffs, Orlando is Aries Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Chiron, and North Node (Rahu)-- wish we had that Rising. This is not a man to be played with! The TV execs are going to regret treating Orlando so callously. #WeMustBuildOurOwn

[@yourmomma2730]

I know I’m late because I just saw this video but I used Orlando Jones speech from that episode when he was talking to the other black gods in my essay for a scholarship which the topic was about the prison pipeline and how it started. Until today I did not know Orlando Jones wrote that speech and it truly was a magnificent piece and performance👏🏿👏🏿

[@blacc2062]

Wow thank you for this.

[@ulerio09]

That scene gave me chills yala. Alot of respect and love.

[@michaelantonio44]

Once Orlando was fired from the show, I was done wit it

[@greatest1996702]

Me too

[@butchjones2572]

Black Gods Matter and i refuse to watch without him there

[@phyllis718]

Me too

[@yama5182]

EXACTLY!!

[@raycooperjr9104]

This is very intriguing!!! Frfr

[@24sevencinema]

That speech was incredible I still play it on KZbin every so often just the 💣

[@lizjo7213]

Great stuff...hearing it from Orlando tells a whole different story than him just being fired...I've always loved his work and had just came off of watching him in Sleepy Hollow and was glad when he showed up on American Gods, such an underrated actor....

[@kennyhalltotga2272]

My favorite is the scene on the ship. Where he takes the chains off one man and that one man frees everyone else. Today many would leave their own kin in that position. They are the children of this society who have no loyalty. There is no us.

[@jimmieleepatterson]

"Anger get shit done!" Real talk!!

[@sunzshotcuts1162]

All day

[@mamiejackson3862]

Orlando was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on that show! He spoke well for Black people!

[@blastradius7193]

So you wrote you own lines brother. Wow very impactful!

[@_mrcrypt]

I've not seen any of the show. Read the book, but haven't seen the show. Everything I've seen of Mr. Nancy - MR. Orlando Jones - is EXACTLY what I expect from a Neil Gaiman story. Orlando NAILED it. How authentic! How sincere! Thank you, Mr. Jones, and thank you People’s Party with Talib Kweli for turning me on to this. Cheers =D

[@jimmybootz1277]

Orlando's dropping gems and his l'il princess is like okay what am I looking for?, classic!!! We need to protect this man at all costs!!😇😇😇😇😍😍😍😍✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@chitownbuck6389]

Oh he from Boston that says alot🤔

[@yama5182]

EXACTLY!! The 70’s were Amazing! We ALL SAW that cartoon!! ❤❤

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

I was a huge fan of this show. Loved the book by Neil Gaiman, too. I didn't know about Anansi before I read the book, but I really, really liked Orlando's portrayal of the character. Especially as a non-American, non-minority person I really appreciated the more raw portrayal of some of the characters Orlando wrote for. I feel bad about the show being canceled, but man, they made their own bed. You can't gut such an important aspect of the show and expect fans to be cool with it.

[@sunzshotcuts1162]

Yap, I was done soon as I heard he was out. Couldn't stand it after that, it reaked of prejudice.

[@marlonglanton4372]

I know TALIB said he's not a sports fan but that Pelicans fitted 🔥🔥🔥

[@mrtw5478]

Yo that’s the first thing that caught my eye 🔥🔥

[@destro6971]

American Gods was a Spectacular season and a half of TV. Thank you Orlando!

[@ashtonturner2862]

I love that scene so much from American Gods.

[@dnicelewis5737]

Orlando bro. You the best in all you do. Whenever I see your name in all movies. Your talent and gifts shows in each character. And should I say your comedy ability much love and salute bro

[@CoreyGreen955]

I have a different level of respect for this guy🖤💯

[@ericgreen6466]

Yeah that speech was powerful

[@regdexter4014]

Standing ovation from me I felt his speech more than any other historical speech I ever heard from our black leaders Obama didn’t have the balls to say what he said on tv man props

[@modulator7861]

Man I'm so glad I saw this. Respect to Orlando Jones - I had no idea how much writing on American Gods he did behind the scenes. Incredible talent.

[@jeffm9760]

Respect for Orlando Jones .. Great writer and actor

[@omniframe8612]

Orlando was growing to become the head of the show and they were threatened

[@charlespressley1178]

His acting is 🔥🔥🔥🔥.

[@edllpattetson5043]

POWERFUL SPEECH MR. NANCY!

[@Ice215Man]

Hey Orlando; you know WE need and Anansi movie from you right? 👀👀👀👀Or show doesn’t matter🤷🏿🤷🏿🤷🏿. We don’t give a damn how you tell it; just turn a camera on and do YOU. Nigga we love you.

[@franciscoallende2097]

Thanks that i know that I need to watch only s2 and not more

[@peso194]

I felt like I was tapping in with my ancestors when Anansi came on. That was different man, respect to Neil Gaimon for bringing that into his story. Amazing acting from Orlando Jones who must’ve been guided by the ancestors in that portrayal, absolutely spot on. I appreciate seeing a black character that doesn’t waver in times of adversity especially during the times of slavery. It’s refreshing to see the side of the story of our people that we’re not only resilient but also powerful and would rather die on this physical plain with their heads held high, than bow down and become a slave. Powerful. I really want to see a spin off involving the African God’s that ended up travelling the world in the hearts of their people in the Diaspora. Maybe some more about the Haitian God’s and those of the “deep south” bayou regions where “voodoo” is involved. I’m invested. But again, well done for your portrayal of Anansi, it was second to none. Still mad they cancelled it but hey, we move.

[@xtrordinarygrl15]

I refuse to watch season 3 as much as i love the show. Orlando, you made it so great even more than I knew. It was so great to hear your side of this.

[@burdenslifted]

Season 3 actually brought the show back.

[@sunzshotcuts1162]

@burdenslifted naaah

[@strega_babeharestreets2339]

I was like Yes!!! Thank you -

[@ProWalter2]

I remember reading the book about anansi the spider when I was 7. I always enjoyed the folk tales especially the moss covered rock one

[@jeniferbrooks355]

The fact that they did this to him further proved his point!

[@kingbeeris8814]

That speech was amazing they should've kept him on the show and paid that man bread

[@michaelmarshall6150]

Orlando Jones says a WHOLE LIT OF GREAT TRUTHS.UNFORTUNATELY TOO MANY OF US ARE STUCK IN OUR BIASIS TO ACCEPT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE.

[@wingdragonzero]

All on point that speech was power

[@deadfred821]

Wait... they let go of Anasi? Oh hell nah...👿

[@mrpayne1974]

Yup..i guess he played that role too good and it scared sum of them "FOLKZ"😏

[@earldouglas1657]

Uhm

[@queenbubalicious]

I absolutely love this man! His talent and intelligence is beyond this world! ❤ & ✌🏾

[@LanierMcKinney]

wow! preach

[@kingamar8780]

The Brilliance of bro. Orlando is unmatched

[@gwenlandry112]

Damn Good Work Mr Nancy ✌️

[@clint7849]

My favourite character in American Gods because he did speak the truth powerful scene

[@swirlcrop]

Orlando Jone´s performance was sooooooo powerful. Well done Orlando.

[@invisiblerevolution]

💪🏿🙏🏾❤️

[@Angedoescoversongs]

I just love Orlando he is just so handsome to me a man with integrity gotta love it ❤ #heyAries ☺

[@mwelsh4974]

I predicted that Orlando wasn't going to last: Way, Way, Way too powerful...That's why we have to make our own stories, reclaim our entire history.

[@amberjo4327]

I love you Orlando Jones ♡♡♡

[@kebdesign]

Orlando is a Living Legend!

[@rwadaley]

In Jamaica Anansi is woven into so many children stories. I grew up on Anansi stories.

[@andretobias2439]

I heard your answer you are great and I enjoyed that character to see him portrayed on a real like that on TV and very uplifting and that's what's missing

[@mihailiancu7680]

I loved Anansi maybe even more than Odin. Doesn't matter what skin colour or culture you are to be fair, his speech will give you shivers no matter what.🙏💖

[@TheATeam1212]

We need a Anansi movie with Orlando playing him.

[@gripperholmes91215]

Great interview, awesome information, and a fan of the People's Party podcast but for a minute I wanna step aside from the main context of the story and speak on the last minute of Mr. Jones comment ( me being from St. Louis ) and say this: I always wondered what the reaction would be if I walked into Busch Stadium with a Curt Flood jersey on? He had a very powerful message to present to sports then and now. It's way past due, the jersey needs to be made!

[@themightyrisone9910]

RIP Anansi. one of my favourite characters from AG, it's a shame they cut you loose. Show coulda gone on for 8 seasons with who they had (since they're not 100% canon to the books anyways).

[@allenedwards2940]

Orlando is a great dude, and he knows everyone.

[@streamlobby2341]

I saw his scene and I wanted to watch the show then that happened! They killed the show

[@davidyousuf99]

Orlando Jones name is in american gods season 3 episode 1 actors list. I guess he's back! Cant wait to see him again on screen

[@worldtraveler4040]

Orlando had the American Gods’ creators, show runner and producers shook. I wholeheartedly believe they felt the ancestors and were scared to death of elevating a character speaking truth to power. Orlando, it’s time for you to emancipate yourself from Hollywood. It’s obvious your intellect and writing skills is a threat. If you haven’t, develop your production company and start producing your own films and tv series. You’ll definitely receive my support!!!

[@TheJackpotQueen]

I love me some Orlando...

[@BLUEPRINT5EAST]

💯💯💯