Upsetting Sir Alex Ferguson | EP 114

[@colloquialsoliloquy6391]

"Look I came from a privileged background, Westminster Abbey and all that ,so to meet people...from the real world to be honest ,to see that work ethic... etc" may be the most openly admirable thing an upper class person has said this millennium.

[@hunsler1006]

I was taken back by his honesty on that, I can see why people like him

[@gooblegooble99]

I came to comment the very same thing!

[@ThexMJT]

Nice he knows he came from privilege, and knows he as experienced a different up bringing compared to average footballer who is generally very working class upbringings, or poverty from players outside of Europe.

[@RoppaNUFC1892]

😊😊😊😊😊

[@funkhouse5936]

Thank you , I cant add anything to that . Very impressive man

[@lukemccormick-clarke5119]

"They went to Hillsborough as a family, with the two girls in the back & they came back as a couple". Got me that. Heartbreaking.

[@richardwiltshire2995]

One of the best Podcasts. Henry is one of the only print journalists who I read. He tells the truth, has the respect of the players he interviews. Wish him the best in the next stage of his amazing career.

[@theonemarkedpirate]

Good to see getting people from different parts of the game to come onto the podcast. Always interesting hearing it from different angles.

[@hunsler1006]

Just on response to Micha's last question. When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

[@englishjona6458]

Yep and a whole country is suffering from what your talking about

[@lotuseater7247]

@@englishjona6458 you're

[@colloquialsoliloquy6391]

George Carlin ,as per usual had an excellent take on the difference between rights and privileges.

[@DannyG-cv8so]

So a “tactically inept” manager took Aberdeen to European glory? Till Pep takes a tiny club to success, Sir Alex has the right to call BS, as do i😂

[@DannyG-cv8so]

@Haydersublate spot on mate!

[@mrwoo1221]

Great pod with one of the most underrated football influencers (is that the word), a true legend of the sport!

[@nickm8874]

Everything’s bloody underrated these days, isn’t it. He was chief football writer for the times. You think he’s some undiscovered under appreciated gem?

[@frasierfreak92]

I don’t like his writing, but I’ve met Henry multiple times and he’s a lovely person, and incredibly passionate about football. Nice to see him acknowledge his privilege and talk about how his point of view has changed after meeting people from different backgrounds through his work.

[@WaniZame]

I’ve never been a fan of Henry’s writing, he is overly descriptive and melodramatic for me BUT his passion for the industry really is infectious. I do think he blows a bit too much smoke up players arses and I think that’s the real reason he has such good relationships in the game but I do hope he gets to continue his career elsewhere as he’s a great advocate. With his upbringing and background he could have picked his career path but broke out of the mould and has mixed in with the proles and having people like Henry advocating for the working classes and how hard we work to the bourgeoise is so important.

[@mesolithicman164]

Oh, it's such an honour to have an educated man speaking up for we, the proletariat. We can barely formulate a sentence, so to have someone from the upper classes defend our beautiful game is, indeed, an honour and a privilelege. And we should all be thankful as he he delivers his largesse upon our unworthy souls.

[@71Giggles]

Fantastic podcast. It was a bit like watching a seasoned premier league pro playing against a Sunday league team!! The three guys are fantastic broadcasters but I don’t think he answered a single question asked. He did however get across his sheer love for the game, his passion for what he does and his obvious intelligence and empathy. Great interview chaps.

[@Daffy0208]

Sorry ... but I'm not seeing that at all.

[@lewisgilbertson7506]

6:17 the small smile that shows up on micahs face is so genuine

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Never read his stuff and I'm not a fan of reporters in general, but this fella seems a good bloke tbf. Good episode nice one lads.

[@ThereAndBenAgain]

Great to hear Henry on the pod. One of the only paper journos worth listening to. I can see him joining The Athletic soon and look forward to reading more from him

[@StevenMiller-zc5hn]

My favourite sports journalist, always articulate and sensible balanced analysis

[@pamelabonaparte9383]

Great conversation……love that you let him speak and give his perspective from many years reporting on the teams,clubs, players and the challenges ( changes) he’s witnessed over a long writing career. I learn so much from the podcast about this game I’ve come to love . Thanks guys 🙌🏻👏🏻❤

[@Sts_andym]

Henry Winter spent the first 5 minutes dishing out compliments to the hosts. Micah’s first question: “what makes you so likeable?” 🤔😂

[@WaniZame]

😂😂😂 exactly what I thought.

[@Daffy0208]

Yip .... not buying it at all. It was making me feel sick.

[@daniel4224]

@@Daffy0208 me too. had to switch off the vid after 7 minutes

[@trevoroconnor7133]

Micah hasn’t a clue what’s going on

[@19nick57]

Yup, there was something almost unsettling about his adopting a lower-than-thou stance whilst simultaneously stroking egos and dishing out (well researched) facts as compliments. Made me feel uncomfortable. .

[@tdtm82]

Can we get Fabrizio back now it's nearly transfer season please? Really great coverage from Mr Winter.

[@cjgsicknote]

Love what you did there with the title, hope henry appreciated it! 😅

[@kkhera3730]

Always loved his reports, great writer, top bloke 👏 👍

[@rhubarbs]

brilliant episode

[@JRD616]

My favourite guest! Love Henry!

[@StevenHadfield]

Replace the spineless bureaucrats at FA, PL, EFL, who punish real, match attending supporters for the results of their own failings, and subjecting them to crap like VAR. Put community clubs and proper supporters first. Never mentioned in the FA cup replay debate is the positive experience of an forcing an away leg at ground you'll never visit or seeing a big club on your own turf. Which can swell a crowd and give people their first live match experience. PUT SUPPORTERS FIRST And I mean supporters - Someone who physically turns up and supports the team, everyone else are fans.

[@nickm8874]

Well said. But I’m not even sure some of the rest are fans, mate. Attention seeking internet celebrities these days …

[@suntzu1550]

Henry is a top top journalist. The times must be mad.

[@neilb224]

I’m not that keen on posh people, but I do like Henry. An interesting, intelligent man who knows the game inside out, and someone whose opinions I respect and admire.

[@cassidinho]

Brilliantly asked question from Big Meeks. Well answered by Henry

[@iainfenton4671]

We are so consumed with making everything perfect and error-free which is just impossible to do.

[@Ryan-if7ny]

Brilliant episode. Wow, to listen to the experiences is amazing. Thanks guys, as always 👌

[@WeAreWombwellMain]

Outstanding interview

[@Mksin42]

What a great show and a superb guest

[@joeboygypsy]

Met Henry winter once at Elland road. Very nice guy

[@marchirving7316]

Great interview.

[@iainamurray]

What an amazing man. I didn’t really know much about him.

[@binzy698]

Probably the Goat. Met him at wembley nearly 20 years ago at an England training session, seemed a nice fella

[@bruce_leon1044]

What a headline! This is sure to anger a few people 😂

[@ali-yp3yw]

It is always a pleasure to hear from the Winter brothers!

[@kerrwells]

Mike and Bernie

[@chrismiller6317]

Brilliant interview lads,Henry is a cut above the rest 👏👏👍👍

[@jaysenjohn304]

He’s one of the normal ones.

[@pr9601]

Thanks

[@eamonnpotts5063]

What absolute nonesense! SAF doesn’t get the level of success he had if he was tactically inept!

[@deppyboi]

Take it you didn't watch a minute of the video then

[@AwakeningFromADream]

6am release? thank you ver much

[@realtalk8665]

A fan of Winter articles and his appearance on hold the back page. One my favorite pieces was his Liverpool Anfield win over Chelsea in 2005.

[@Rafflewafflez]

The first 10 minutes seems like the guest is getting the trios rocks off lol

[@williamhargrave9202]

One of the best pods, brilliant.😎

[@Libya4LY]

FUN FACT! For the Muslims; Abdal Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter) is his brother. One of the most prominent Muslim scholars in the English speaking world today, and the world in general. Highly respected and knowledgeable man. One of the leaders of the Muslim Ummah (Nation). If you’re non Muslim, I recommend listening to him speak. Muslims too of course lol. If you’ve read a book by Imam Al Ghazali in English, he probably translated it. He mentions his brother in the vid lol.

[@alidaniels2487]

😳 al-hamidu-il'allah, he was at my shahada 25 years ago. I was told in hushed tones about his encyclopaedic knowledge and the huge amount of respect he is shown not just in the convert community but the whole Muslim Community as a whole. An amazing, humble, likeable and deeply intelligent man, just like his brother it seems. Great episode of the pod guys, keep it up!!

[@alfredthegreat9543]

Also read Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkein, another epic work of fiction.

[@karlportsmouth5571]

That was brilliant

[@ronakjoshi5198]

Henry’s take on the Glazers is 100% on the money!!!

[@alaskanmalamute101]

Thought it was Simon Jordan at first..thank god it's not can't stand that arrogant 🤬😆

[@thetruth1862]

🤣

[@realtalk8665]

He is the worst of the worst

[@IrishArizona]

He's actually meant to be sound off camera - don't judge a book by its cover as they say

[@realtalk8665]

@@IrishArizona he demonizes footballers like Sterling Rashford and Salah for shock value for his talksport demographic. Cheap and classless for someone who act like he is the embodiment of excellence.

[@IrishArizona]

@realtalk8665 well the 3 of them are shite this season we built up all 3 over the years so a bit of stick is deserved

[@PontilMarx]

and then the journalist said "we're sort of moving in to a bit more a of clickbait era", your honour

[@user-ce7dv2ti5w]

Gary Lineker, top show by the way. How about in the next show, a mention for the new Scottish PFA Player of the Year award winner, Laurence Shankland of Hearts. He has scored 28 goals so far this season in competitive matches and he is the first non old firm winner of the award since 2013. Have any of you lads seen his play/goals this season, what do you think of him? Keep up the good work, plenty laughs

[@stevegoldy2196]

Would love to see you get Brian Glanville on the podcast

[@nikiguymer5840]

Great call😃

[@jackbroughton1045]

love the pod guyss

[@michaelkneale3825]

Jesus! You three have just found the person to run your fan clubs!

[@janvanveelen]

Jesus does not do fan clubs.

[@willtallis5275]

@@janvanveelenyes he does the Christian fan club

[@nicknewman7848]

It's going to be bloody Portugal, Henry.. I can feel it in my bones.

[@antmanandthecod6073]

They say remove the extra games from FA cup replays. These three back it but then ignore the fact the champions league will be more games under the new format and the prem openly saying there’s a chance of playing games in usa

[@willtallis5275]

The USA game thing won’t happen the clubs wouldn’t get away with that not for a league game anyway but there so obsessed with America and how they do sports it’s clouding there judgement they want to make it a concert with performances at half time and lots of stuff like that but I don’t go to watch football to see a half time show I go to watch the team I love with fellow fans not because it a show I go becuzse I love my club and the game and if they do do it with prem teams it wouldn’t be long before the championship would have to do the same thing and can you imagine a smaller club with a smaller budget having a home game moved to the USA and lose out on all the gate money at the ground not a chance they don’t need prem games they have access to our 3pm games that we do not have access to they also have there own leagues in the mls so they don’t need more exposure they have Messi playing there for Christ sake that’s enough PR for them to last a lifetime there just about to have the next World Cup aswel literally covering all of the America’s and Canada I can’t see it happening

[@nimascolari1508]

How to fix global football? Introduce salary caps so that teams with insane revenue due to their history can't dominate. FFP is designed for the wealthy teams. Not Fairplay. Also, let Turkey, Greece have automatic champions league spots. Not Italy 6 😂 I'm Italian btw but I miss the days of Galatasaray and Olympiacos facing off. The financial corruption is disgusting. Forest and Everton penalised over a handful of issues. Leeds decimated over the last 2 decades but city and 115+ dodgy dealings go on to win trebles? Yes, FFP all the way. 🤮

[@brianyule1289]

I must see if I can find some classes in tactical ineptitude. It seems to be a real winning strategy.

[@bigrandomun9267]

Netherlands and Spain will be shocks in the tournament. Both teams have made insane improvements since the last tournament and boast some of the best players and some of the best young talent around. Frimpong, Maatsen, Van Dijk, Ake, Yamal, Cubarsi, Pedri, Grimaldo. Some of these players have had the best seasons of their lives, not considering either team is ridiculous to me.

[@Umair114ahmed]

Hes Sheikh Abdul Hakim Murad's brother!? That's crazy. I'm listening to him talk and I'm like he sounds so much like the sheikh, and then he mentions his brother being a Muslim cleric and I'm like whaaat.. Very eloquent speakers both of them. This is perfect, both religions of mine being covered by brothers😂

[@mindsai7]

He was right. Ferguson WAS tactically inept. Two late miraculous goals doesn’t change that.

[@mu6qy]

Beating bayren without Keane and Scholes in final was incredible to find a way to do it.

[@maximelia]

Gary’s microphone volume is quite low at times.

[@markbradley5030]

If clubs are really concerned about playing too many games, stop summer tours. Oh guess what these make lots of money, so maybe not!

[@royhammond2232]

How do you get that headline? No mention of it

[@daviebananas1735]

Simply don’t trust any football fan who claims to not have a team. Absolute nonsense. Football is ALL about your team.

[@jsss3604]

I wana see Micah and Big Narstie have a laugh off.

[@Jasbir51]

Great interview! What a guy! But why the clickbait title? Title doesn’t do justice to the great conversation and man here!

[@shaba.N1]

Fascinating listening to Henry Winters. Especially with the caveat of knowing of his brother. Who is also a well-respected muslim scholar, as he touched on. Both amazing individuals in different domains.

[@cbc899]

26:50 'Ferguson tactically inept,' 'what was he playing at' and changing '900 words criticising Ferguson' to everything being changed in the blink of an eye over 2 last minute goals. Understandably the headlines will change because the outcome changed but the the performance and tactics through the game were still the same. Did his 900 words of criticism turn into 900 words of praise because if so, the praise and the article wouldn't be very genuine. I get he can't have a full article criticising the new Champions of Europe but I wonder how much of the initial criticism remained. Not getting at him, just genuinely curious.

[@xcroc9815]

Love the pod but intrigued why you decided to change the title for this one ?

[@therestisfootball]

We try to pick a title / topic from the podcast that works for KZbin's recommendation algorithm. The audio podcast title doesn't always work for KZbin. So we make changes based on the different topics the podcast covers. YT Admin.

[@pgc99]

​@@therestisfootballso, you know that Ferguson (or anything related to Man United) will generate more views? Nothing wrong with that of course, but why not just say it 😂

[@housefire123123]

​@@pgc99 spot on 😅

[@neilg6675]

I'm sure sir Alex has more going on in his life than worrying about the opinions of a pretty poor journalist.

[@stevengreenstock6095]

Look at facts rather than emotion. Barely any club has benefitted from FA cup replays in the last 20 years. Football got ill in 1992, been on life support ever since, long gone is the working man's game

[@Vegan_Photographs]

Clubs actually stand a better chance of progressing now

[@STST]

I dont think you quite get the argument. Its not about going on to win or progress further. Its about the players from lower legaues to be able to play in huge stadiums. Its also mostly about money. Many teams have been kept running by the revenue a replay can make them. New stands, New pitches. Its more about that side of it.

[@tonypoole9493]

What an interesting intelligent guy 👍

[@pr9601]

Excellent interview!!

[@indianrunner666]

Lo banco, yo primero hincha del tricampeón Argentina y después de mi equipo Argentinos Juniors (de donde salió Maradona)

[@nickm8874]

Assume Henry meant Ronnie Moran not Mourinho? Incredible segment, that … not a criticism just a slip of the tongue

[@RichieMacMr]

Marina, Kenny's wife

[@seanfitzgerald8575]

He is blowing air up their holes no wonder spoiled footballers get on with him.

[@jonathanheywood5482]

Henry winter reminding people how little he knows here, why didn't he just say he didn't anyone to read his stuff or believe his words anymore rather than this self burial

[@kevin-z7v8q]

a small percentage of footballers do work for local communities etc... it is the same in the real world people go the extra mile whilst holding down a full time job and probably get no recognition whatsoever please don't inflate the egos of footballers past and present even more cheers

[@WaniZame]

I thought this listening. I don’t want to shit on people doing a good thing but it is one of my problems with Henry. He overstates the importance of players and their contributions to society.

[@JG-jc8dm]

"Woke" has been weaponised over the last few years. It used to very much be seen as a positive thing - caring about social issues, showing compassion and just generally not being a twat. Now it's come to be a slur.

[@MartinGreen932]

Woke has nothing to do with compassion. It is an obsession with gender, race and sex. It has led to quoters and `positive discrimination' - which is basically reverse racism. Biological men competing in women's sport, going into women's safe spaces and going into women's prisons. Huge numbers of women and the gay population believe it has done huge damage to progress that has been made on inequality for those groups in recent years. It has also led to thousands of people losing jobs/work because they do not conform to woke ideological but irrational beliefs.

[@gamerbeans7445]

Winter who sir Alex hated. He tactically beat the best managers in the world. Won lots and lots of trophies. Henry winter is a 🔔 end

[@chrisknight2631]

I like Henry but he’s dead wrong. All professional footballers are lucky. Of course they work hard - a lot of us do. Doesn’t mean they’re not lucky. Saying it was just their hard work implies that the millions/billions of others who aren’t footballers or millionaires don’t work hard. “You’re poor? Well, why not work a bit harder and you’ll be loaded in a few months!” It’s such a lazy thing to say and he’s either 100% blowing smoke up their arses or he’s just proving that he’s a product of his environment.

[@LoneRangerG5]

I 100% agree. I’m not a sportsman but I am very lucky to be successful in my career. Obviously a great work ethic and being a genuine person has contributed...but luck has been a massive part. Right place, right time...that kind of thing. I get what he was trying to say but I think you’re right, product of his environment. I do genuinely like him though, he speaks well but he can’t possibly understand.

[@mattyaztec]

Yet all you 3 do is talk about the top 4-6 you only occasionally talk about the championship because Leicester are in it now they’ve been promoted you won’t speak about that league now and do you guys even know there’s a few leagues below that? Point is it starts with the media and pundits like yourself who have huge platforms

[@Northumberlandgeordie]

Am I missing the point here? Surely, the lower league clubs would rather go away to the bigger ground and collect all the revenue

[@daveyfunk]

The problems are off the pitch, but attention seems to be about fixing on pitch problems and has actually opened doors for further corruption. Greed and a form of nepotism where football favours the powerful is killing the game. Best use of VAR would have been to stop diving but doesn't get used for that. Diving is the worst part of the on-pitch problems but the bigger factor that's killing the game is the ridiculous inflation caused by greedy agents and players. Fans then get criticised for not going to games where 'normal' people are simply struggling with cost of living and then football clubs charge extortionate prices to fund the greed

[@englishjona6458]

All we want was goal line technology, not var and as far as I’m concerned it’s a tool to fix games sorry the FA is more corrupt than FIFA (don’t believe me) then why are the premier league referees not members of fifa or UEFA and can’t referee in Europe?????? WHY IS THAT 🤔

[@andrewharrison7767]

you realise Anthony Taylor refereed the champions league semi final & is fifa registered, so going to the euros right?

[@garymacdonald7165]

His comments about Fergie,prove we have another journalist who writes shite for a living!

[@strickers07]

is there going to be a time where you guys can get through an episode without shitting on united or using us as the title to click bait, just a reminder man utd have finished above newcastle last season and possibly this and man united havent been relegated from the premier league unlike all of your teams

[@BrianSimpson-i6o]

Most football journalists ask the most stupid questions

[@Kurgan618]

Distinguished career ... and he's just been laid off

[@JuddLofthouse]

That was cool

[@dfir2570]

Henry Winter is a nauseating sycophant

[@dman9152]

Would be Mr ferguson in today's era.

[@Shaggy-8392]

Adam West still excelling in parody.

[@JohnnyMcKenna-i8i]

Phil Thompson sounds different

[@Stuffthatsfunny1]

18:40 how the hell can you not want a regulator?

[@edturner9030]

The fact someone felt it needed to improve in first place is partly what broke it. VAR after 5 years of use has not improved the game, it's had a negative affect and failed in what it was intended to do. It should be either dropped or just used for the very obvious mistakes like yards off side, handbags off the ball missed by the ref etc Fixture congestion is an issue one thing it could do is reduce itself to one single cup competition, dump the league cup, FA trophy/Vase etc and have the FA cup open for all the tiers.

[@chrisknight2631]

The FA Cup is open to all the tiers.

[@edturner9030]

@@chrisknight2631 Didn't knowhow far down the pyramid it went as never looked into qualifying stage's before 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@denisako6493]

VAR worked in Russia in it's infancy worked perfectly in Qatar and also in the CL. The PL just likes overthinking things. 1st it was the 3D lines with nonsense armpit offsides now it's clear and obvious nonsense

[@boreilly82]

Winter is the biggest sycophant in the business. Always has been.

[@Pininfarina81]

Honestly, this guy is saying how hard footballers work?

[@markh5461]

If these footballers dont already think their special, give it a break, we all just human beings

[@alluvialedaempfer962]

Okay hold on: A journalist who is fine with people using him to get their message out isn't a journalist but a propaganda mouth piece. It is shocking the three of them just sat there and didn't go "eh what?"

[@garythurlby7341]

Nuckle Clapping an important point according to you is an annoying habit for some 😀😎😩

[@nimascolari1508]

Fergie tactically inept? 2 decades of winning against waves of different managers? His last win with that weakened Utd team? 😂 🤦🏻‍♂️