Urban Debate | Tribal Status For Meiteis Dropped | Rajat Sethi: Manipur Hc Lacked Locus Standi

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In this episode of The Urban Debate, anchor Shreya Dhoundial discusses about Manipur High Court verdict on Meiteis and the talks with Author & Economist Rajat Sethi.
The Manipur High Court has modified its order that sparked the riots in the state. The paragraph on the Meitei community's inclusion in the ST list has now been removed. The Manipur violence till now has claimed around 200 lives. Stay tuned to Mirror Now for more updates.
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@viteshworitrichal866
@viteshworitrichal866 6 ай бұрын
The real mother even agrees to give up her child rather than see it being cut up into half while a fake mother agrees to cutting the child into two. Thats the difference between meitei and kuki approach, one is the old indigeneous founding community of the ancient kingdom of Manipur, the other just arrived latest by 2 centuries ago.
@gulapiokram3613
@gulapiokram3613 6 ай бұрын
Silver lining of the root cause is crystal clear for the genuine ones.
@joshmitabora7697
@joshmitabora7697 6 ай бұрын
So true!
@victornaorem259
@victornaorem259 6 ай бұрын
Perfectly said
@punitgurumayum
@punitgurumayum 6 ай бұрын
Now creating one more fake story...😂😂 hey illegal immigrants story maker​@@mangchahaokip6648
@brucealmighty5293
@brucealmighty5293 6 ай бұрын
​@@mangchahaokip6648Create ur own happiness and cook some lies outside records 🤣
@sunilyengkhom4836
@sunilyengkhom4836 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Rami Desai for deep understanding of the situation. May God bless you all the time. Trurth is Trurth always
@Thangneo-1976
@Thangneo-1976 6 ай бұрын
Rami is RSS wala. She'll always speak in favour of the people' in power
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
"World is cruel not because of the bad people , but the silence of good people" ~ Napolean Bonaparte
@indranildas3050
@indranildas3050 6 ай бұрын
😂
@AnandSingh-sk5kw
@AnandSingh-sk5kw 6 ай бұрын
Refugees from mynmar r freely get st n why meitei r not
@romeshsingh1539
@romeshsingh1539 6 ай бұрын
​@@chon4645Arey gadha tumhara baap ne kaha tha kya. U people r the real refugees coming from Burma.
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 6 ай бұрын
Lol more than 2000 year old documented history and lineage of kings who rule the entire region... and one kuki refugee who can't name his grandfather's name is raising questions?? Wah reh duniya
@jayashreerana2412
@jayashreerana2412 6 ай бұрын
Refugees trying hard to act indigenous desperation at the greatest level ​@@chon4645
@11sunrose
@11sunrose 6 ай бұрын
@@chon4645 go home to mayanmar and let us live in peace my frn.
@premkumar641
@premkumar641 6 ай бұрын
Refugee KUKIS demand home town in Manipur if is very funny. One day they will demand another state in Maharashtra, Delhi,Meghalaya, Assam West Bengal etc but I wonder why GOI silence.
@somewhereinparallelunivers4226
@somewhereinparallelunivers4226 6 ай бұрын
Even the highest court of India don't have any rights to talk about a community to be in ST list or not. Any community can demand it and send recommendation for it, if the community fullfill the criteria for ST , they will get it else not. So, no other communities or person can object it. Its all depend on eligibility criteria. Hope it clear everyone.
@Batman-14
@Batman-14 6 ай бұрын
💯
@olalaolele7551
@olalaolele7551 6 ай бұрын
Scheduled tribe are for tribals. Are meiteis tribals?
@somewhereinparallelunivers4226
@somewhereinparallelunivers4226 6 ай бұрын
@@olalaolele7551 never hear about a community turn into ST and another community delisted from ST???? For ur Question, yes Meitei were once a tribe. They were delisted before due to the mistake of some leader and now they are demanding to restore the ST. If u have a doubt, do some research in historical documents.
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
​@@olalaolele7551YES as much as Kukis
@cy56565
@cy56565 6 ай бұрын
@@olalaolele7551yes of course, if you think they aren’t. Worry not please.
@neji-hyuga-
@neji-hyuga- 6 ай бұрын
ST criteria requires the tribe to have a shyness of contact, and to be in a remote area. With how things are, nagas and kukis have access to trade with myanmar and india in general, while meitei is sandwiched and landlocked by the two, one of which has decided to become sworn enemy of Meitei. Now who is really isolated and who isn't? And who deserves ST more than who? Let the people who can actually think be the judge
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
Tribals come on violence and arm twist the government
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
While innocent meities are not doing such violence hence their demands are not met
@v.kipgen8732
@v.kipgen8732 6 ай бұрын
Just because a chunk of the tribal population has moved beyond those criteria you mentioned , doesn't mean the majority has ascended up and above said criteria. Half assed observation like yours won't solve complex socio-economic issues like this.
@nrmeetei
@nrmeetei 6 ай бұрын
No any single person or any community cannot be given justification against a community. There is five criteria it should be included n will looking by govt of India neither kuki nor Naga.
@nrmeetei
@nrmeetei 6 ай бұрын
@@v.kipgen8732 u kuki doesn't have criteria, u don't have any cultural events, all are borrowed from Kom tribes and mizos. In Manipur we meeteis are still preserving all the criterias to be a tribe as well as we were already included once in the list Tribal communities of Manipur. U illegal immigrants kukis have no right to be a tribal of Manipur. If the india government given a true justice.
@redarmy1012
@redarmy1012 6 ай бұрын
This Violence is not related to schedule Tribe Demand.
@himhimpougondaimei505
@himhimpougondaimei505 6 ай бұрын
Even the fool know that st deman is the root cause of the violence
@yengkhomsonia4114
@yengkhomsonia4114 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Rami maam We the meiteis fullfil the criterias for inclusion of ST status . Why are some communities always against our demand specially kukis even though they don't deserve to be ST
@angelusgonmei5161
@angelusgonmei5161 6 ай бұрын
U r talking only for your benefit. Think for the whole community .
@nelsonthoudam9606
@nelsonthoudam9606 6 ай бұрын
​​@@angelusgonmei5161st can be of two types based on topography as like Assam did where there is plain st and hill St quota.Its for the safety of our community. And after some years all meitei dominated area are going to be said as as kukiland as like bishnupur and imphal adjoining area where most of the kuki are very hungry to buy land ....For you people are protected by laws .In everywhere we general and obc say for example meitei in nagaland who stay for many years even can't claim as their stagnant land and same goes to mizoram...In Assam we meitei are selling land bcoz of poverty and we don't get govt job as we are general or obc and tribes are enjoying at the fullest with the high job vacancy even though less tribes population
@shnm84
@shnm84 6 ай бұрын
Y exampling n saying for others state talk about ur state dnt say too much the world knows who is meitei and what are their characters
@yengkhomsonia4114
@yengkhomsonia4114 6 ай бұрын
@@angelusgonmei5161 I m not talking for our benefit but for our future and it's our right.. at the same we do think for other communities also
@incognito1847
@incognito1847 6 ай бұрын
​You think for other communities also, is that​ why you meiteis always protest against granting of sixth schedule to the hill areas or strengthening of Hill Areas Committee under article 371c of the Indian Constitution? You shameless hypocrite!@@yengkhomsonia4114
@sanahanbiksh925
@sanahanbiksh925 6 ай бұрын
Actually this violence is not related to schedule tribe demand
@rudra.580
@rudra.580 6 ай бұрын
It is the ..... There is a history of violence in Manipur against the native people the Manipuri people lives under 5% land of the whole state it is not a justice to them what other hand the cookie tribals have the 90% of.hills
@user-ul1zh3nr1r
@user-ul1zh3nr1r 6 ай бұрын
Related natte haibadu jade mi jam saohanbani
@onlytruth10
@onlytruth10 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-ul1zh3nr1rshaora di Court ta chat laga fight touba yadro. Side ani mak dagi meh mayam shiri se pamudro?
@user-ul1zh3nr1r
@user-ul1zh3nr1r 6 ай бұрын
@@onlytruth10 force toumanbagi oigani court na masana jadre khangbasina pharbani oiroidoubada matam pamui
@fxwilzee5468
@fxwilzee5468 6 ай бұрын
How can u say that..this is the main reason If meitei doesn't demand ST ..manipur will still be in peace ❤️‍🔥
@thenotoriousdennis
@thenotoriousdennis 6 ай бұрын
Rami the rare gem of India, salute to both of you Rajat and Rami for standing for the Righteous entitie
@ramkumarsarangthem1615
@ramkumarsarangthem1615 6 ай бұрын
Most of the meetei lands both in the urban and countryside are all bought by the rich kuki community thereby increasing villages of kukis alarmingly. Meeteis are the victims of every issue that arises in the state.The impoverished Meeteis have sold the least lannd area they possess and now they have nowhere to go to survive.
@SuranjoyShapam
@SuranjoyShapam 6 ай бұрын
No, why. R. D. R. Land. Of.. Cooks.. kuki. D. R. Land. in. Where. with.. Popy.. n.. Puppy
@sindhukn2535
@sindhukn2535 6 ай бұрын
If the Kukis who are rich landlords getting getting ST status and reservations in education and jobs, poor Meiteis should also get the same .
@varaprasadganta4931
@varaprasadganta4931 6 ай бұрын
Meiteis are Upper Caste people.
@chon4645
@chon4645 6 ай бұрын
Illegal immigrants n refugees do not get ST
@laishangthemnipponsingha8463
@laishangthemnipponsingha8463 6 ай бұрын
Upper cast meitei, majority of its population barely can afford study after 10+2, who are not allowed to settle in their own state . lol .. we meitei knows how fucked up we are.
@Konkonponponsonson
@Konkonponponsonson 6 ай бұрын
​@@varaprasadganta4931 But Kukis are upper caste Superior Christian, We are just Idol worshipers(as said by them)
@johnkansh8103
@johnkansh8103 6 ай бұрын
THIS WON'T CHANGE A THING ABOUT THE HATRED BUILT UP WITHIN THESE FEW MONTHS BETWEEN MEITEIS AND KUKIS. IT HAS GONE FAR MORE THAN ST STATUS. THEY ARE READY TO KILL EACH OTHER ON THE SPOT. ITS NOT ABOUT ST STATUS, NOT ABOUT POPPY, NOT ABOUT IMMIGRATION ANYMORE TO BE HONEST. IT HAS GONE INTO PURE HATRED COMMUNALLY😢. SO WISE AND POWERFUL PEOPLE PLEASE PLEASE🙏 INTERVENT AND PROVIDE A PROPER SOLUTION FAST, NOTHING IS TOO LATE.
@shantikumar001
@shantikumar001 6 ай бұрын
Remove Mizo ST in mizoram as they are Majority in the state. Yes. But it will never happen coz... India only love Burmese Refugees KuKiZoo a lot. I don't kw why!
@alsonngambom09
@alsonngambom09 6 ай бұрын
Can you remove the ST status of the khasis in meghalaya, the Nagas in nagaland and likewise in other norteastern states in india
@chengleis4553
@chengleis4553 6 ай бұрын
The current unrest in Manipur is not related with the HC order to recommend meiteis in ST status, it's a pre planned agenda of kuki immigrants to decimat meiteis.. Why ST status for kuki illegal immigrants from Myanmar??????
@kanthadvocate2041
@kanthadvocate2041 6 ай бұрын
Tribals will become illegal immigrants when they challenge the upper caste atrocities and domination right 😂😂
@CR06_73
@CR06_73 6 ай бұрын
Many Bangladeshi Meitei, Myanmar Meitei within 700 sqm of Imphal valley, no one talk about it, so ...what
@crk567
@crk567 6 ай бұрын
​@@CR06_73Coz they don't cause havoc in another country or nation like the kuki illegal immigrants do wherever they went!
@chanchalphilem2287
@chanchalphilem2287 6 ай бұрын
@@CR06_73 Let's implement NRC doodh ka doodh pani ka pani ho jaayega!
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
​@@kanthadvocate2041BHRAHMINS TRIBALS ARE ALSO ST IN NORTHEAST , INCREASE YOUR KNOWLEDGE BEFORE BEING A HATER
@RenakoAmaori
@RenakoAmaori 6 ай бұрын
Meitei has general,OBC and sc.Meitei follows hindu,Muslim and Christianity and their own religion Sanamahism.Yes,they have their own language like any other community but they also have their own script like: Tai-Khampti: The Tai-Khampti tribe in Arunachal Pradesh has its own script, the Tai script (Lik-Tai). Galo: The Galo tribe of Arunachal Pradesh has its own script, the Galo script or Mopin script. Santali: The Santali language has its own script, the Ol-Chiki script. Ho: The Ho language has its own script. Gondi: The Gondi language has its own script. Kurux: The Kurux language has its own script. Mundari: The Mundari language has its own script. Kukis really don't have a valid reason to stop meitei/meetei, other than doing what they are doing causing turmoil.The State of Manipur are equal for all community ( it's not a good conduct that tribals can buy land anywhere while the meitei can only buy 10% while being the indigenous people of that said place like meitei don't have st tag in mizoram or nagaland) it's not that hard to do some basic research with trusted source.
@nrmeetei
@nrmeetei 6 ай бұрын
The meetei/Meitei still a tribe but unfortunately this ST was not listed since 1949 just after merging in India. However we were a Major Tribes of Manipur during Britishers periods.
@Rim03212
@Rim03212 5 ай бұрын
@@nrmeetei back in 1948 R.Suisa proposed valley people shld choose SC. But meetei people were deeply hurt. They said Meetei follow gouriya religion, descendent of arjun n Brabhrubohal as per da mahabharat. Meetei chose da general category. R . Suisa tangkhul MP said to them, u wouldn't b able to change later.
@sksingh2988
@sksingh2988 6 ай бұрын
No it is not related with st demand. Simply its related with popy cultivation which produces drug business.
@jeronjoseph5691
@jeronjoseph5691 6 ай бұрын
whatt????
@chanchalphilem2287
@chanchalphilem2287 6 ай бұрын
True!
@p----k
@p----k 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Uff1234
@Uff1234 6 ай бұрын
We have all heard rumours that all communities - Kukis, Nagas and Meiteis are involved in this shameful activity. That needs to be investigated thoroughly.
@Very_horny_rapists_meiteis
@Very_horny_rapists_meiteis 6 ай бұрын
See the records of NCB(Narcotics Control Bureau). You'll find who the real illegal drugs traders in all over India and in the Golden Triangle + across some South Asian countries.
@lucifur5936
@lucifur5936 6 ай бұрын
Started as a retaliation of the Drug brigade against the Govt and now the CJI and Supreme Court also has helped in the Christianization of the NE States. Now only NRC and Delimitation and Population census can help 😑
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 6 ай бұрын
Lol😂😂...they criticised tribal status saying quota quota.... But now meitei demand one 😂😂...funny karma ..... Irony is that nobody allowed them to be tribal😂
@sanasangnom825
@sanasangnom825 6 ай бұрын
Mizo who are a majority in Mizoram are ST They also follow the dominant religion too So why not
@ningreiphiduidang5166
@ningreiphiduidang5166 6 ай бұрын
😂
@Batman-14
@Batman-14 6 ай бұрын
Do some research on what is St?
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
​@@Batman-14St - Tribals Once someone converts to a monolithic religion like Christianity , they are no longer "tribals" otherwise everyone was a tribal at some point , even after 70 years you want benefits of tribals while living a modern life 😂
@lucifur5936
@lucifur5936 6 ай бұрын
Because Maitis are not Christians and there is a larger push to convertthe last standing Hindu dominated States like Manipur & Assam to be Christian dominated 😢
@victorstone1113
@victorstone1113 6 ай бұрын
​@@smulestarSomeone is jealous of The Zo people(Kuki-Zomi-Mizo-Chin) getting smarter than them 🤣
@moneedhh
@moneedhh 6 ай бұрын
This is not an actual reason for the conflict. And no community cant stop meitei from getting ST status if ST criteria are fulfilled . And there is no need of kuki community killing the meitei when meitei's demand are genuine.kuki should stop killing the meitei, instead put up your opinion to central govt on why meitei should not get ST status. We put up to central govt on why we should get ST status. And this should be the way a good community should act or react. But kuki reacted by killing the innocent meitei. But naga dont react like kuki.
@surajsingh-nb7nv
@surajsingh-nb7nv 6 ай бұрын
Meiteis never flames the situation
@reformedpark2350
@reformedpark2350 6 ай бұрын
HC was directing the state for sending the recomendation . The recomendation may be for inclusion and also non inclusion it is upto the govt agencies.The HC was only reminding the govt to send the recomendation which was pending since 2013
@martinwairokpam7184
@martinwairokpam7184 6 ай бұрын
Yes. This.
@nrmeetei
@nrmeetei 6 ай бұрын
Right
@William_Meitei
@William_Meitei 6 ай бұрын
This is an act of judicial overreach into the premise of executive. SC or HC don't have the right to intervene or they are not the authority to decide a community will be included in the ST List or not. What is the reason for being set up National Commission for ST & SC if SC overrules over such Commission? For the last decades multiple interventions from SC into the arena of Executive and Legislature which were not supposed to be intervened have been witnessed. So Judicial Activism or Judicial Overreach is too much. Judiciary must avoid it as per situation.
@martinwairokpam7184
@martinwairokpam7184 6 ай бұрын
Judiciary has every right to intervene when the govt turns a blind eye to its citizens. Meiteis have been demanding ST status since 2013, and the state govt has refused to send recommendation and that's the first step in the procedure. Whether meiteis getting included in ST or not is to be decided through book of law and procedures.
@William_Meitei
@William_Meitei 6 ай бұрын
@@martinwairokpam7184 That's why I call it judicial overreach. They are not the authority to act with regard to this.
@minx_cat
@minx_cat 6 ай бұрын
Modi is soooo bad that he has singlehandedly managed to destroy an entire state.!!! This is absolutely mind boggling.. And the fact that he has not even visited manipur or spoken about the situation even once is just soo bizarre.!!!!! How is he even the prime minister of india.???😂😂😂😂
@boosdaddy7893
@boosdaddy7893 6 ай бұрын
Refugee outsiders have no right to our land,no right to the scholarships and job benefits which is borne by our taxes. It is so unfair that we get denied 90% of land in name of reservation.not only that,nagaland and mizoram should provide 10 seats in their assembly for meiteis in their state like we have done for them. Otherwise, we should withdraw such benefits to them
@larslemn4835
@larslemn4835 6 ай бұрын
Imagine being the oldest indigenous community of Manipur(kangleipak or meitei kingdom as it was ruled by meitei kings for thousands of years) with deep ancient history and do not get our own right in our own land but instead given to non-indigenous Burmese refugees which was just landed in Manipur just 2 centuries ago. Unacceptable.
@SuperScarab
@SuperScarab 6 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh no one is taking away meiteis properties so l don't know what do you mean, also ST is just a title for reservation otherwise it holds no value, so what are you saying ?
@dadananaoworld6615
@dadananaoworld6615 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperScarabthere is multiple layer into that ST tag. MLR-LR act which restrict meiteis to buy land in other areas of hills which constitute 90% of manipur. majority of the population reside in remaining 10% land out of this 2/3% is water body, . But they can buy anywhere in manipur.
@SuperScarab
@SuperScarab 6 ай бұрын
@@dadananaoworld6615 so if the title of ST is gone wouldn't that make them free to own land outside of Manipur??
@Erik10Hag36
@Erik10Hag36 6 ай бұрын
Kukis and Nagas can never claim apart of Imphal Valley as theirs. Same way you can't claim theirs as yours just because you have the numbers. Maintain status quo
@wh8tebeard
@wh8tebeard 6 ай бұрын
The current conflict is not related with the ST status demand, refugees just want separate administration so they picked fight with meitei by protesting against it
@kshetrimayumdiamondsingh5660
@kshetrimayumdiamondsingh5660 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much revealing the truth
@premicism9955
@premicism9955 6 ай бұрын
Khoon ke pyase hai. ST status was only an excuse for the Kuki refugees to wage a war against India.
@Dmav261
@Dmav261 6 ай бұрын
The HIGH-COURT has done ✔️! By this logic, ST granted to illegal immigrants shall be rectified.
@cpriyobratasingh9164
@cpriyobratasingh9164 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Rami Desai for making things clearer.
@nirmalaatonyumnam4916
@nirmalaatonyumnam4916 6 ай бұрын
Rami make a point that violence is nothing relates to the st demand..
@beingchikim
@beingchikim 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mirror Now, for dedicating time to discussing the pressing issues in Manipur. Unfortunately, the situation remains dire as Meitei terrorist groups like Arambai Tenggol continue to exert control over the government, leading to unabated violence in Imphal. The banned terrorist outfit UNLF enjoys unhindered movement under the Meitei government, further complicating efforts to restore peace. For the Kuki-Zo tribals, the recent correction by the Manipur High Court regarding the Meitei ST status brings some relief. However, the underlying tensions persist, highlighting the need for immediate action. It is imperative for the central government to consider imposing President's Rule and establishing a separate administration for the Kuki-Zo community. Coexistence with Meiteis has proven untenable, necessitating urgent measures for the preservation of peace and stability in the region.
@thingujamjaneshsingh5055
@thingujamjaneshsingh5055 6 ай бұрын
Go to your native place Myanmar & peaceful settle there. Instead of barking here...
@beingchikim
@beingchikim 6 ай бұрын
The longstanding animosity between the Meitei (Manipuri) community and the minority Kuki-Zo tribals predates the recent High Court judgment. Evidence of premeditated actions by Meitei terrorists, such as the marking of Kuki-Zo tribal residences in Imphal with red marks, underscores their sinister intentions. Driven by concerns over population density in the Imphal valley, Meitei forces seek to expand their territory into the Kuki-Zo hills, viewing them as a solution to their spatial constraints. This strategic motive lies at the heart of the ongoing violence in Manipur.
@tonlaiphrakpam6411
@tonlaiphrakpam6411 6 ай бұрын
We don't know who opposite to get on our ST demand only we demand under Indian democracy.This is our right of democracy Long live Meitei....
@sreekanthakk5198
@sreekanthakk5198 6 ай бұрын
When tribals converted to Christianity getting S.T.status then why not the real inhabitants the meities.
@Puh539
@Puh539 6 ай бұрын
Then why population of hills and valleys is almost same but Meitei has 40 MLA out of 60 And only 20 MLA to tribals and the chiefs minister is always from Meitei community
@hausofpageantry
@hausofpageantry 6 ай бұрын
Religion and Tribe are 2 different and separate things. Tribals can follow any religion be it Hinduism Islam Chriatian etc.. they will still be Tribal regardless.
@apechongtham1014
@apechongtham1014 6 ай бұрын
​@@Puh539 that means u don't know about Manipur
@Someoneforyou12
@Someoneforyou12 6 ай бұрын
Because the Meiteis have OBC and SC status too
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
Arguments don't matter , only muscle power work
@prasendwipmitra93
@prasendwipmitra93 6 ай бұрын
then judiciary is directly responsible for all the situations.....
@Angom1225
@Angom1225 6 ай бұрын
At first this violence is about st demand but now its not about st demand anymore. Its between indigenous meitei people and illegal immigrants kuki from mynmar who tried to break the state (manipur) into pieces #saveindigenousmeitei #savemanipur
@lamywang7
@lamywang7 6 ай бұрын
ANSAM's definition of tribal should be applied to kuki zo and Naga only. Rest should follow the written criteria about who is st.
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
Who are you to dictate who will get st status? As if Nagas and Kukis are great law abiders. Recently shown the world how much the believe in rule of law / arm twisting
@ranjanthingujam7036
@ranjanthingujam7036 6 ай бұрын
Let's the NCST ( national commission for schedule tribes) and RGI ( register general of India) decide the fate of Meitei communities whether can enlist in ST category or not. Don't comment unrelated topics here.
@angousingh2018
@angousingh2018 6 ай бұрын
Rajat shethi and Mirror Now team, don't interpret in the wrong sense, HC issued that nothing right to do with the HC. Its right is only NCST and RGI to decide its eligible or not if the criteria is fulfilled or not.
@truthhurts450
@truthhurts450 6 ай бұрын
Define Naga first.. let's see why Biharis and Bangalis can't be Nagas by your answer..
@SuranjoyShapam
@SuranjoyShapam 6 ай бұрын
ANSAM, r. Migrained. Hybrated. 4.kuk.U.R.OK.ANSAM.
@mctinamaltina7714
@mctinamaltina7714 6 ай бұрын
Kukis tribe who are not indigenous to Manipur are enjoying ST status, Kuki illigal immigrants from Myanmar continue to enjoy ST status the moment they reach Manipur. On the other hand Meitei who are ingenious to Manipur is rightfully demanding for it.
@gogreentv256
@gogreentv256 6 ай бұрын
Fact: The conflicts is not about getting ST or not, its about one ethnic group wanted separate administration from the present State govt.. Because they want no interruption planting poppy or any illegal activity that includes export or importing drugs from neighbouring mynmar .Hilly areas were vastly deforested to plant poppy, it affect the environment. Foreign media focused only on Kuki enraged just because Meitei wanted ST . Whether the Meitei getting ST or not the kuki will not stop destroying the peace in the state. Their main focus is having a separate administration or separate land from Manipur and wanted to govrn with the illegal immigrants and to continue illegal poppy cultivation. The Meitei will not surrender their motherland Manipur just because some illegal immigrant want their land. Foreign media should focus only on the truth, not on the opinion of your media.
@user7sdhhdjdgs5gh
@user7sdhhdjdgs5gh 6 ай бұрын
We are living in a society where immigrants are not only VISA FREE but given ST STATUS on arrival. Bravo!
@Swmdwn84
@Swmdwn84 6 ай бұрын
Kangaroo discussion, should have both for and against in a discussion and there has to be a critic in a panel
@user-rn4yc4qx7e
@user-rn4yc4qx7e 6 ай бұрын
Indian tribal is only in paper, that is st certificates. People are same both from general and st. Only the rights is given differently to the same persons. A real tribal can get only from Amazon forest and Africa who are far from education, clothes, communication, internet etc etc like the common people in other places.
@Batman-14
@Batman-14 6 ай бұрын
Why giving meiteis sT they don’t want to be St in the past years….now they want bcuz of the st quota !!
@lsmeetei6503
@lsmeetei6503 6 ай бұрын
What is ur problem?
@chengleis4553
@chengleis4553 6 ай бұрын
ST demand of meiteis is legitimate.. No one has the right to interfere.. Illegal kuki immigrants should be delisted from ST list
@sreekanthakk5198
@sreekanthakk5198 6 ай бұрын
Please go through the history.Earlier they were under S.T .status ,& it was removed by congress govt & encouraged conversion.
@Batman-14
@Batman-14 6 ай бұрын
@@sreekanthakk5198 u guys choose not to be included…
@Batman-14
@Batman-14 6 ай бұрын
@@BABAYaga-lk3cs no!
@Notyours9998
@Notyours9998 6 ай бұрын
The level of hypocrisy in trying to portray themselves as victims is just too rich 😂😂
@laishram__27
@laishram__27 6 ай бұрын
HIGH court order deleted now. Will Kuki give up arms and drugs? And stop demanding kukiland? Will they still bring myanmarese chin kuki zo in Manipur and settle in reserve forest area? Can we go back to hills now? Majority meitei cant buy in 90% of Manipur while myanmarese illegal immigrant under ST and tribal can settle anywhere in Manipur. Where is the uniformity of law of India? Population of meitei is just 15 lakhs competing the 1 billion Indians in general category. This is total injustice to meitei people. We will fight and defend the legacy of 2000+ yrs of written history. We are not goat.
@surjitmangangtakhellambam7082
@surjitmangangtakhellambam7082 6 ай бұрын
Kashmiri journalist Yana Mir's words stunned attendees in UK Parliament Building 🔥🔥 She said "I am not a Malala. I am free and I am safe in my country India, in my home in Kashmir which is part of India. I will never have to run away from my home country." ⚡ Yana Mir also praised efforts of the Indian Army for deradicalising youths. She was facilitated with Diversity Ambassador Award at UK Parliament after powerful speech 🔥 However in India, the state of Manipur, the indigenous people #Meitei are no more safe against the marauding illegal #kuki immigrants. Kashmir you are so lucky we envy you.
@rozeryumnam1656
@rozeryumnam1656 6 ай бұрын
Meitei tribe are now minority community 😢😢😢
@MrS4070
@MrS4070 6 ай бұрын
Dear Mirror Now, high court order has no impact or is not real cause of Meitei kuki clash, the real cause is effect of destroying poppy plantation and state government's campaign for war on drugs in Manipur
@Wealthbuilderexperts
@Wealthbuilderexperts 6 ай бұрын
1) The HC never directs for the inclusion of ST for meitei. The mirror should read the verdict before making it news. 2) The present conflict is not because of ST demand. It's because of war on drugs by the GoM
@lemmyroll8309
@lemmyroll8309 6 ай бұрын
Well, we expected nothing less from incompetent national medias. No one hardly cares anymore of their participation.
@chagatnei3013
@chagatnei3013 6 ай бұрын
Rami Desai has the right thinking👍👍👍👍
@trevorreznick7848
@trevorreznick7848 6 ай бұрын
This an echo chamber of meitei delusion. Meitei have SC, OBC quota ,concentrated political and economic infra in Imphal valley now want ST 😂😂😂. Just How much are these two panelist paid to promote this agenda, probably from diverted minority development funds.
@angousingh2018
@angousingh2018 6 ай бұрын
One thing we should think that the present Chief Justice of Manipur High court never seen to visit relief camps in Imphal and interact with meiteis who are in the relief camp but he visited at Kangpokpi relief camps and help them, he should interact and help both the affected communities. Hew seems to be biased.
@amitkhuraijam6161
@amitkhuraijam6161 6 ай бұрын
Don't talk about Manipur issue from the table. Just come and stay here for 1 week and feel the situation what is around here. You will certainly know this riot is not about the Inlist of Meitei to ST. Its all about the Myanmar refugee kuki who reside in the peripheral area wants to settle and dominant the area from indigenous people. And play victim card. If u want to know more Ask Rami Desai as she comes here and feel the situation in reality. Sorry Raja Sethi i hope you don't know much well as this issue isn't a book of theoretical paper, its reality of the GOI geopolitics effect.
@thenotoriousdennis
@thenotoriousdennis 6 ай бұрын
Right thinking person will definitely support Meitei while paid puppet will support kuki, Huge Respect to Rami and Rajat 🙏🏻
@rupatensubam6126
@rupatensubam6126 6 ай бұрын
We meiteis want peace but kuki will never say they want peace...
@AttarChiranjeet
@AttarChiranjeet 6 ай бұрын
Before ST demand there was peace in Manipur. Rami took money from meitei to support meitei
@Thangneo-1976
@Thangneo-1976 6 ай бұрын
Give them ST, give us SA. Problem solved...
@anishb9216
@anishb9216 6 ай бұрын
Good news
@Khumanxyz
@Khumanxyz 6 ай бұрын
India government play a big role not to include meitei in the ST list. But immigrant kuki get ST. This show India government never think meitei as an Indian.
@thegameboy3507
@thegameboy3507 6 ай бұрын
True. Meitei are from bangladesh. So go back you are not indian. ST is only for indigenous people.
@MrPunshi1
@MrPunshi1 6 ай бұрын
Cookies demand is Separate administration since 12 May not ST demand of Meities. Cookies have made it loud and clear. Yes it convenient to blame Meiteis ST demand as cause of violence but Need to read between lines.
@raghunathmutum6542
@raghunathmutum6542 6 ай бұрын
Too bad for Ms. Shreya who acts as the unofficial mouthpiece of the Kuki Zo Narco terr0rists .Ms.Rami Desai schools the poor not so well informed anchor.
@Hry674
@Hry674 6 ай бұрын
It will take 50 yrs for the Meiteis to get ST status😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tinkoosingh1980
@tinkoosingh1980 6 ай бұрын
ST demand is nothing to do with this current violence.... It's all about land, forest land, poppy cultivation and foreign influence or influx.... Rami knows all about it....
@user-zw8kc5qj8l
@user-zw8kc5qj8l 6 ай бұрын
Conflict had nothing to do with st status or high court instruction and it will continue as usual
@hackerdestroyer9547
@hackerdestroyer9547 6 ай бұрын
ST should be remove from kuki
@ajendroarambam-dh5py
@ajendroarambam-dh5py 6 ай бұрын
Present situation in manipur is not related with st demand by meiteis. kukis are playing victim card. For your information, kuki are not the only tribal in manipur
@longerodds5077
@longerodds5077 6 ай бұрын
Injustice to meities. The Court has bowed to violence, like Modiji bowed by repealing farm laws
@naoremibochouba8938
@naoremibochouba8938 6 ай бұрын
Peace will not come with or not ST inclusion since kuki is demanding kukiland, union territory, greater Mizoram, separate administration pretending ST statud
@jstn520
@jstn520 6 ай бұрын
no st for refufee kukis. st only for indigenous communities like meiteis
@herojitsingh785
@herojitsingh785 6 ай бұрын
ST ia not the issue of this violence. Had this be the issue, the violence could have stop by now. ST demand is just an excuse for the kukis to start attacking of Meiteis.
@meinamnandakumar
@meinamnandakumar 6 ай бұрын
This war not only for ST status even 1lakh people die war never stop Manipur is land of meiteis and indigenous different tribes including ST &SC not intruder drug mafia kukis which are coming from Myanmar...
@Ngama2024
@Ngama2024 6 ай бұрын
Rajat Laishram & Rami Meetei
@crk567
@crk567 6 ай бұрын
Karan Haokip and Barkha kuki
@gunabatihaobam3498
@gunabatihaobam3498 6 ай бұрын
Yes they are meiteis ,and Indian and we are very proud of Rami and Rajat,while somebody is jealous
@kiransingha2106
@kiransingha2106 6 ай бұрын
THUJAKLAL HAOKIP 😂😂😂😂😅😅
@user-rn4yc4qx7e
@user-rn4yc4qx7e 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 very true​@@crk567
@sunithongam9776
@sunithongam9776 6 ай бұрын
And Arijit Haokip in X
@user-rn4yc4qx7e
@user-rn4yc4qx7e 6 ай бұрын
In the comments some are saying upper class. Its not the questions of upper class. Who are the upper class, in economy, literacy rate, living standard tribal of Manipur is in upper class. All the meiteis are not Thakur who are treated as upper class.
@chon4645
@chon4645 6 ай бұрын
Refugees do not get ST
@konnichiwa8316
@konnichiwa8316 6 ай бұрын
What does she know ? shes just trying to make a name for herself, taking advantages of the situations of Manipur? 😂 What a clever woman😂
@precisionz6181
@precisionz6181 6 ай бұрын
Rami Desai you are very true. Thank you. Other reasons are against illegal immigrationsl of kukis, poppy plantation, reserved forest violation by kukis.
@paoneithangtuboi718
@paoneithangtuboi718 6 ай бұрын
After doing whatever they want, what peace? Biren buying those armored vehicles against the kukis just recently and what peace? Aramabai tenggols are roaming around freely with guns and looting of firearms are still taking place what peace? When the meitei centric govt is acting against only a particular community what peace? If They have the right to demand, are we wrong to oppse? We have come to far to talk about peace, the meiteis know this and the kukis know this.
@deepson6526
@deepson6526 6 ай бұрын
It's legitimate our ancestors come from the hills,proof is that all of our God's place(Devine place) are in the hills people used to visit and pray there every year but now they have destroy all of it ,I am not saying only one place ,there are many
@zious6434
@zious6434 6 ай бұрын
Supreme court lacked locus standi
@user-ul3br2ou3g
@user-ul3br2ou3g 6 ай бұрын
This social activist Rami doesnt know anything....she said because of she has mouth....pointless....
@mkPaika3205
@mkPaika3205 6 ай бұрын
i support meitei
@jeronjoseph5691
@jeronjoseph5691 6 ай бұрын
it’s bogus claim! they don’t deserve
@cy56565
@cy56565 6 ай бұрын
@@jeronjoseph5691not for you to decide. 😅
@reformedpark2350
@reformedpark2350 6 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong in HC directive
@Erik10Hag36
@Erik10Hag36 6 ай бұрын
Meeteis were never ST n they never one to be one. why now?? Because only way they can grab tribal lands is through ST status. They already enjoy the benefits of SC,OBC,EWS but STs. How can someone be so jealous i will never understand. If you think Imphal valley is overpopulated and that tribals have the right to buy lands and that you can't buy lands in the hills why not put up a bill in the assembly to prevent tribals from buying lands in the valley. You have the numbers?? Years ago you've been crying for the implementations of ILP in the state out of fear for the Mainland Indians that's exactly what the tribals feared the most. Dont mislead the outside world with your selfishness. Enough!
@muongangte142
@muongangte142 6 ай бұрын
It's all about aiming to grab the land of tribals, even a fool will know that, if you can't know, please check yourself.
@tomba47
@tomba47 6 ай бұрын
Kuki refugee are getting ST overnight and we meiteis are being denied to argue for st status by naga, kuki and immigrants. Naga or kuki or immigrants do not have the right to do so
@Lh34492
@Lh34492 6 ай бұрын
Rajat Sethi is an economist now?? Can you suggest me any one of his Publications?And don't get me started on Rami Desai, the self-styled "Northeast" "expert"
@bethuzalen1854
@bethuzalen1854 6 ай бұрын
Meiteis got General,OBC,SC now wanted to be ST so funny once meiteis treated ST equivalent to dog in Imphal during 80's some meitei Hotel put a board don't allow ST and dogs not allow now they wanted to be ST is nothing to Loot tribal land and everything Meitei ST demand aries when Meitei from Myanmar Bangladesh refugees influx in Manipur morover there are Many bangali converted to Meiteis
@vanlalremadarngawn2698
@vanlalremadarngawn2698 6 ай бұрын
Rami Desai: Meitei has a right to demand ST status Me: Tribal has a right to protest against it.
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
But not a right to go on a killingSpree
@Wealthbuilderexperts
@Wealthbuilderexperts 6 ай бұрын
U protest against it by killing people and burning down houses. That is not ur right. U don't know the Indian law.
@ronxdiary8359
@ronxdiary8359 6 ай бұрын
Me: I have a right to eat food You: I have a right to demand you don't have to eat food
@kangleigaming4708
@kangleigaming4708 6 ай бұрын
Yes ! You have the right to protest . But people with guns cannot proceed for a protest. It’s a basic rule of law in this country and a basic understanding among civilised people as well.
@Konkonponponsonson
@Konkonponponsonson 6 ай бұрын
Tribal selfishness
@khemangchennel5274
@khemangchennel5274 6 ай бұрын
Instead of living like this as an Indian and a state of India it will be better to live not as Indian...
@dianazou5836
@dianazou5836 6 ай бұрын
Partiality witnesses is a sin this is for rami n Rajat
@KimGangte1
@KimGangte1 6 ай бұрын
The whole Manipur is such a poor state. Give ST SC OBC to all!
@reformedpark2350
@reformedpark2350 6 ай бұрын
Ppl misread HC order nothing change in HC directive for Manipur Govt to send recomendation. It removed only the time frame to send the recomendation
@Biren-n4d
@Biren-n4d 6 ай бұрын
Really scary to imagine if Courts granted the ST
@mangchahaokip6648
@mangchahaokip6648 6 ай бұрын
Let the Meiteis get ST in Kangleipak and let the Kukizo get their separation administration where the Kukizo have been living in their ancestral land.
@thibotman
@thibotman 6 ай бұрын
Your ancestral land is across the border
@sunithongam9776
@sunithongam9776 6 ай бұрын
Meitei became slave within THEIR homeland,
@AlexHmangte
@AlexHmangte 6 ай бұрын
Rami desai idnt think so she is well known activist she is just a radical activist ...
@orionko124
@orionko124 6 ай бұрын
In most part of North East ST status is given based on religion.
@smulestar
@smulestar 6 ай бұрын
Which is illogical
@BABAYaga-lk3cs
@BABAYaga-lk3cs 6 ай бұрын
What religion?
@user-rn4yc4qx7e
@user-rn4yc4qx7e 6 ай бұрын
That means all the people who are enjoying st status should remove from st list because they are Christian, the most modern and develop religion which is followed by European. Wow
@Konkonponponsonson
@Konkonponponsonson 6 ай бұрын
​@@BABAYaga-lk3csChristian
@BABAYaga-lk3cs
@BABAYaga-lk3cs 6 ай бұрын
Hindu tribal st also exist u need education
@jamalmydeen1158
@jamalmydeen1158 6 ай бұрын
Is he economist? Or BJP?
@uttam-ps6bm
@uttam-ps6bm 6 ай бұрын
Tribals means "casteless, ignorant, uncivilized, mlechcha, parangis, harijans, etc. Why should a high caste (kshatriya) hindu, well educated wish to adopt tribal culture again ? Very incredible !
@bungpu23
@bungpu23 6 ай бұрын
Your comment and mindset speaks that you’re highly educated 😅
@gulapiokram3613
@gulapiokram3613 6 ай бұрын
Sambhalke ji,namak s😅wad anusar...
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