In Which All Optimism Dies... Plunging Into Madness

[@thegreatcalvinio]

Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers is the most passive aggressive man in America right now...

[@ephemispriest8069]

What else is new with that bitch?

[@danyheatleyall-star3677]

Ephemis Priest idk what’s new with you

[@ericmendenhall2867]

Aaron Rodgers hates cancer patients

[@matthewshortle5274]

Carson Wentz: "Hold my body"

[@papi_chuy1677]

Eric Mendenhall 😂😂that’s epic

[@judebrennan9188]

I thought this would be EDP when the eagles took Jalen hurts

[@UHOH_415]

Jude Brennan I don’t understand that pick. They already have Wentz

[@judebrennan9188]

MrUHOH415 me too like I get he has injury problems but I still feel wentz is our guy and we should’ve drafted a receiver to help our offense or even a linebacker to help our defense

[@the_albanian_meme6041]

God help us

[@philly_sports1558]

Wentz dragged the Eagles to the playoffs last year and THIS is how they repay him?! Instead of help, they draft competition for him?! This is a total betrayal and double cross to Wentz.

[@matthewshortle5274]

That should be the next video

[@jakeselig7410]

Five Points Vids really is a casual, he doesn’t even know who Isaiah Simmons or Andrews Thomas are and plus he’s a Giants fan, no wonder we all laugh at him.

[@Seraph89_]

Probably a Hackey fan.

[@benwarner2940]

Nah he knows who they are I hope it was just for comedy like “who are you you’re not Derrick brown”

[@seanc7342]

Misrepresents the hell out of the Giants

[@seanc7342]

The guy wanted Derrick Brown for God sake

[@sideswipebasura7503]

Jake Selig you know who’s a great football KZbinr besides tree, set the edge

[@LGDevilsFan]

Who’s here after Andrew Thomas got extended? Man it feels so good to watch this and knowing how all Giants fans feel now including FivePoints.

[@Arizzo97]

Andrew Thomas wasn't a bad pick in the moment so i don't think the reaction was warranted this time around

[@lucrative6477]

89 pass blocking grade and 91 run blocking grade. literally the best tackle prospect in over 5 years.

[@bearholdensharkslux4791]

@@lucrative6477 and to think fpv wanted a run stuffing DT instead, like how the giants drafted one last year

[@ZS-lq6fv]

@@bearholdensharkslux4791 And how the Giants picked up Leonard Williams in FA. Seriously - it's one of the only positions we're pretty much set at. If we picked Brown over an offensive tackle or EDGE for our first pick I'd have been livid. Andrew Thomas was a great pick, ESPECIALLY when Chase Young is going to be in the division and we have a young RB and QB to protect.

[@bearholdensharkslux4791]

@@ZS-lq6fv and peart in the 3rd

[@MrProatlas]

FPV is a dumbass, that’s the best explanation lol

[@UHOH_415]

Hey.. at least they aren’t the Eagles. What is Howie Roseman doing? Another QB? What about Wentz?

[@Potato___Man30]

MrUHOH415 Same with the Packers. Poor Ty.

[@UHOH_415]

I_am_ _God That Clip was funny as hell. Pat and the Guys were dying of laughter

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Tbf, Wentz has been pretty injury prone as of late

[@UHOH_415]

Mr. Pink Fair Point.

[@loganroberts1761]

@@SmoothCriminal12 but a mobile qb likes hurts doesn't help much either

[@JackCallSports]

As a Giants fan I’m ok with this pick

[@cameronrairdon5489]

Same

[@Hounddog-dz8uj]

It’s really not that bad it fills a need

[@Angel-bo7mh]

As a jets fan i wanted thomas but becton is cool

[@loganrehbein7610]

Yeah I dont actually think its bad

[@danyheatleyall-star3677]

Thresher I wanted becton wills or wirfs before Thomas

[@brianajemian2912]

This wasnt even a bad pick tho...

[@TheEgganator324]

Yes it was

[@MrSweating]

It wasn't we needed O line our worse,problem

[@davyt0247]

The Egganator I’m no Giants fan, but Thomas wasn’t a bad pick. 5 sacks allowed in 3 years, in the SEC of all conferences, 2.2% pressure rate, his grades were in the high 80s to low 90s. Offensive line is always useful anyway.

[@TheEgganator324]

@@davyt0247 just enjoy the video

[@zuippy845]

The Egganator stfu, how?

[@mc2k-81]

Andrew Thomas was the best OT in college football last season. Giant Fans who hate the pick are completely delusional.

[@nickhedgecock7067]

MinimalStock - No, he wasn’t that was Willis. Good player but a reach

[@gabepelletier184]

@@50shadesofbeige88 they tried to trade down thats why the pick took forever but no one would give them what they were asking

[@Radman1889]

Was he worth 4th overall though?

[@irfbjifi3rufbui3bf35]

MinimalStock - no he wasn’t

[@TheRoguesource]

irfbjif i3rufbui3bf he absolutely fucking was. People overate the combine way too much.

[@polandballofspace4226]

Giants: draft a good offensive tackle to protect Daniel Jones FPV: ight imma head out

[@iskender1327]

This really wasn’t a bad pick, he can play either side and looks dominant, I’m happy as a giants fan

[@gnoodle6994]

I'm happy about the pick, I'm still not happy about being a Giant fan xd

[@leosydlik2278]

At least he’s not a eagles fan rn!!!! Oh wait EDP IS!!!! Poor EDP

[@brianmackenzie3675]

Kinda hard to feel bad for him and that fanbase

[@krisgordon3116]

Yah. I switched over to watch him when Jalen Hurts was announced and wasn't disappointed, he was BROKEN!

[@justsimplycloud-justacomme8265]

this aged well

[@gaming4ever925]

I'm an eagles fan too

[@stigandrthewarlord1871]

I'm so proud to have been here live for this

[@jameseyboy183]

-wants Derrick Brown even though we don't need IDL -doesn't know who Isaiah Simmons is -has this reaction to us drafting the most pro-ready OT in the draft when OT is one of our biggest needs Is Five Points going senile? edit: changed "biggest need" to "one of our biggest needs"

[@bolbyballinger]

Most pro-ready was definitely Jedrick Wills. I had Andrew Thomas as the fourth best tackle prospect so seeing him be the first off the board was hilarious.

[@bolbyballinger]

Most pro-ready was definitely Jedrick Wills. I had Andrew Thomas as the fourth best tackle prospect so seeing him be the first off the board was hilarious.

[@noahogrady5274]

Bolby Ballinger Thomas was the consensus agreed best OT before the combine. On tape of games he is the best OT

[@christotonis6956]

Bolby Ballinger disagreed, all the tackle prospects were very close in talent and Andrew Thomas has the best tape out of them all

[@xKingofHearts87x]

right? I'm not a Giants fan but i thought that was a really good pick. protect your assets in Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones

[@Detroit1Time]

Like Daniel Jones, watch Andrew Thomas start proving people wrong.

[@UrinatingTree]

I honestly think the same thing with Thomas. Although he could flop, idk.

[@nickhedgecock7067]

Daniel Jones fumbled 18 times

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737]

M I C H backhand Daniel Jones excited low expectations but is absolutely nothing special he’ll be benched by year 3

[@x3ln0ng1d7]

Andrew Thomas was the best run blocking tackle by far. It makes sense for the Giants current direction

[@bruhmoment2653]

UrinatingTree i mean I personally disagree with the pick, I wouldve gotten Wills

[@TheRageLivesOn]

i'm honored to have witnessed this live

[@JustinRoKStar]

Me too. xD

[@innatebubble121]

Same man

[@ChiefBlue4298]

Me as well

[@lucascable9807]

Same

[@JOHNsmith-hr1lo]

Andrew Thomas is amazing, this guy knows nothing about draft prospects.

[@henryblackman1480]

I wouldn’t say amazing but not a bad pick. But the giants needed a QB bad lmao that’s why he was mad 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ryanh3951]

@@henryblackman1480 do you watch football?

[@52flyingbicycles]

Henry Blackman the Giants definitely do not need to spend another 1st round pick on a QB right now. They just did that last year. Maybe a later round if they don’t think their depth is good, but not a first round QB since they have so many other gaping holes to fill.

[@Djinn667]

@@ryanh3951 He was called Danny DIMES for a reason smh non Giants fans know nothing

[@mlo3687]

Lmfao they just drafted a qb last year..Daniel Jones? Don’t remember him already bro? lol @henry blackman

[@salahareikat8610]

I love Trees Lord Farquad laugh in the beginning

[@austinreed5805]

The Yinzer shows his face for this one which makes it twice as good.

[@kennycai8695]

Press "F" to pay respects to the sanity of Five Points Vids.

[@noahogrady5274]

Assuming it’s the giants fan that dudes just a moron

[@straydogbite]

"A two QB set would be revolutionary" Oh to be a Eagles Fan.

[@SpencerMahon]

I was so overjoyed to have SEEN this live. Laughter for AGES.

[@manband20]

Came here right after he gave up two sacks, a pressure, and got flagged for a hold in a single quarter of preseason football. Yikes.

[@davyt0247]

It’s October 17 2022 and Thomas has been fabulous!

[@CoffieIsServed]

I WANT BILL O BRIAN: A LEGACY OF UNBEARABLE PAIN AND FAILURE!

[@iamhungey12345]

Too early for now, how about Dusty Baker or Buck Showalter?

[@jouseldechavez4631]

Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yyyyyyeeeeeeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

[@otaviofrnazario]

Video should be named "Bill O'Brien: a hack (of a video)"

[@BigRedDragonFan]

Sad thing is, the guy had the most sacks allowed this year(10).

[@davyt0247]

Well his 2021-2022 certainly went better

[@robmart116]

I’m so confused with this video. Andrew Thomas is a freakin stud

[@bolbyballinger]

Generally speaking, the fourth best tackle in the draft shouldn't be the first off the board.

[@ethanmcclain7570]

@@bolbyballinger This is generally true, but scheme fit is an important and oft underrated factor in drafting linemen. The team might feel like he's the best fit in the system. The Giants might also feel like Thomas has the most upside and are confident in their ability to pull that upside out of him.

[@alexanderlisk3746]

Bolby Ballinger hes not the fourth best though? A lot of people had him as the most pro ready of any of the tackles

[@cityhawk]

Bolby Ballinger You have him ahead of an oversized project than Becton? You’re kidding me right?

[@Crush1084]

@@bolbyballinger But Becton wasn't the first off the board

[@SchizoidMan1989]

Looking forward to part 3, and this time we have a salty Yinzer too.

[@troyjuhn7346]

Thomas was probably the best O line men in the class. Sad that five points didn’t even know who he was🤣🤣🤣🤣 Edit: Holy crap so many likes

[@52flyingbicycles]

Troy& Jay Juhn classic mistake of “I’ve never heard of this guy before so he must suck”. NFL Scouts are professionals for a reason. Human, but professional all the same.

[@misterface4547]

Troy& Jay Juhn Jedrick Willis is better

[@dexterelliott2767]

@@misterface4547 Better at the combine, no one knew his name until then, Thomas was the best tackle in college

[@misterface4547]

If you watch Willis’ tape it’s insane. Also when looking at o-line men name recognition isn’t something you should look for

[@nathanmeagher7869]

Thomas was projected to go in the top 5-10 for the entire year. How does Five points not know him

[@prospecial]

why would anyone complain about andrew thomas dude is a stud

[@cavetr0ll799]

PTSD from Daniel Jones.

[@allthingsgaming6]

It’s really funny because Andrew Thomas was actually a good pick

[@davyt0247]

He’s been great so far in ‘22

[@hobs1303]

“Draft Justin Herbert please” When you realize that move actually could’ve saved the Giants.

[@shoeshiner9314]

The fact that the giants beat the fraudulent vikings in the playoffs, even though they could've had Josh Allen with Justin Herbert is a testament to Daboll's magic

[@GLepage74]

Thanks urinating tree, in these dark times for me you bring a smile to my face and I thank you for that keep pumping out videos and making me laugh my ass off ❤️

[@sen5857]

Five Points learned the lesson Bill Cosby did when he told Twitter to meme him: Do not challenge the internet. It always wins.

[@AnthonyYoshi]

Seeing this live was absolutely hilarious! Also, the somewhat blurred text of my name makes a cameo for half a second at 5:30 and then for a few seconds starting at 5:34.

[@JG124_]

5:58 - other way around, tree. A masochist is someone who enjoys being tortured, a sadist is someone who enjoys torturing others.

[@thalfie]

And thus, it comes back full circle.

[@MasterMind0908]

This, QuaranTree, is pure comedy gold. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@garredos]

Meanwhile, Andrew Thomas is an all pro this year….

[@G_54-GMG]

Dave Gettleman: Have you ever heard of the definition of insanity? Fivepoints Vids: FUUUUUUUU.......!!!!

[@combinelegend105]

That's the Falcons not the Giants.

[@G_54-GMG]

@@combinelegend105 The Falcons made that line run away like their playoff history.

[@BlueJimmie48Fan]

Thank god this pick aged beautifully.

[@amishshark3549]

Urinating Tree's laugh could cure corona

[@HurricaneGrims]

We should get a sample and send it to the CDC

[@TruBoreDOM]

Best thing is the giants didnt even derp but fivepoints is so ingrained with this franchinse that he himself became the derp

[@Natendowii]

In Which all Optimism dies Part 4: Derp is Unbreakable

[@kevonrichards554]

Y’all clearly haven’t watched how good Andrew Thomas is

[@banananarwhals2016]

There were better options though.

[@kennethvalentine8901]

You clearly haven't watched the Giants waste talent

[@Crush1084]

@@banananarwhals2016 Honestly, they were all kinda in the same area. Wirfs had the athleticism and technique, Becton had the athleticism and size (probably the worst technique of the 4), Wills was the the most pro ready day 1 and Thomas had the best tape overall. I think they're all gonna be good personally. Only one I'm skeptical on is Becton.

[@iamhungey12345]

@@kennethvalentine8901 That's because the Giants doesn't have a history of wasting talents compared to teams like the Lions, Chargers, Jets, and so on.

[@whs1pmjazz]

That was the worst beer pour Ive ever seen in my life tree. Get it together man

[@ajsports4450]

Funny thing is that Andrew Thomas turned out to be better than Mehki Becton

[@ronstoppable5659]

Perfect timing for this video, since I was just watching EDP’s reaction to the Eagles picking Jalen Hurts

[@davyt0247]

I still don’t get the pick

[@cecilhammerton8167]

That might be one of the wisest pieces of advice I have ever heard: Do not tempt the internet.

[@davyt0247]

The internet will always win

[@EmilioCorrales813]

At least this isn’t EDP’s slow descent into insanity for the eagles drafting jalen hurts

[@catherinebeveridge9023]

This is the content I hoped for when I watched the draft last night!!!!

[@cheeseheadjoey5935]

This wasn’t even a bad pick

[@erikholden]

Joey Fellenzer that's what i'm saying

[@TheRoguesource]

It absolutely is not. This is just another weak attempt to make a meme out of a giants pick, despite it being perfectly fine

[@erikholden]

TheRoguesource i 100% agree

[@SeekerLancer]

@@TheRoguesource Eh everyone's just understandably bored and trying to have a little fun.

[@davyt0247]

Didn’t he allow 5 sacks in 3 years, in the SEC? How is that a bad pick?

[@zuippy845]

I was first mad until I realized Andrew barely gave up any sacks

[@bagofgroceries]

3:04 LOOK GARY THERE I AM!

[@newyorksfinest1212]

UT’s use of SNES music is beautiful and just makes this funnier

[@davyt0247]

And the final Jeopardy countdown music too

[@boyscouts83712]

3:06 -Now comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh, ready?.... -Ready....😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂! LOL!

[@rafaelbruce6765]

It went from extreme to ultra that quick. The KI part.

[@Jerweh]

Andrew Thomas just got paid the big money. Man, this aged poorly for five. (In a good way)

[@davyt0247]

Yep, nice seeing a Five meltdown and know the pick actually turned out well for once.

[@cord6130]

That man is no longer a man, he is merely a shell for the Giants to toy with.

[@will_walsh16]

As a giants fan I didn’t know who Andrew Thomas was before we drafted him but after watching highlights I’m satisfied with the value they got at the pick even if it was a bit of a reach. But it’s not there fault it was a reach because they had no trade partners a to move back. I bet you he’s an all-pro tackle in 2-3 years . (Giants made some good moves tonight by getting a great defensive leader and safety in Xavier McKinney and a gifted tackle who can be a great starter if he is coached well in Matt Peart.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

Still better than the Steelers

[@Chewie316]

Even as a Giants fan, this was hilarious.

[@atcraft1070]

Good news: Andrew Thomas is really fucking good now.

[@davyt0247]

Yep!

[@strawberryfeels6479]

This is too good. I'm glad Fivepoints Vids is such a good sport.

[@angelrobles7201]

01:07 Our boi Schlasser running with his beers like the fat man running with the popcorn for the comments... Priceless!!

[@forresttowns4995]

I'm a Georgia fan where Thomas played and I died laughing. The Derp cannot be stopped. It is unkillable. Long live the Derp! There are 3 certainties in life: The Derp, the Butt Fumble & LolMets.

[@Coolmig-qs9mq]

This is where the comments begin

[@BondedByThrash_]

"Death has a face" So that's what death looks like. OH GOD GET IT AWAY!!!

[@davyt0247]

And It’s bald!

[@allshade2093]

Andrew Thomas ended up being a solid pick, but this is still funny 😂

[@mattrothmann]

Andrew Thomas is good. I watched a lot of him at Georgia and he seemed to be the best tackle in the nation and definitely the best at run blocking. Although this may be a reach Giants fans shouldn’t be mad at the pick.

[@bolbyballinger]

"and definitely the best at run blocking." Allow me to introduce you to Mekhi Becton . . .

[@mattrothmann]

Bolby Ballinger Bruh apparently you think the ACC has actual competition. Nothing against Becton he’s a great player but Thomas was blocking really well against top tier teams and he’s a big reason for Georgia being a top rushing team

[@davyt0247]

I don’t think he was a reach, the mock drafts I saw had him at 8-10 range. Drafting him at 4 wasn’t a terrible idea. He would have probably been gone before the Giants came up again, if you have an opportunity to get a real good Tackle, do it!

[@gelebryan760]

Andrew Thomas is actually a really good pick mannn. Something has to be wrong with FPV

[@dsl32]

Oh my god this even better watching it a second time. Tree I loved how you brought in all that beer

[@SilvertheShadow]

Yeah I’d still say the Packers taking Jordan Love was more deserving of the derp. At least the Giants addressed an immediate need.

[@anonymousperson3023]

It's not a terrible pick though. Sure, there were better options to chose from but picking Jordon Love isnt too bad. However, that rb they chose, idk wtf that was about

[@bolbyballinger]

@@anonymousperson3023 Same, Aaron Rodgers is most likely on his last year with Green Bay before he gets traded and Love will slide right in making the pick a decent investment in the future. Besides there were still plenty of option left at wide receiver and cornerback by the time the Packers made their next selection so they weren't going to miss out on much unless they instead drafted a position that they're already set at and have legitimately no need to improve. But that would be pretty stupid.

[@thrgg]

@@anonymousperson3023 Doesn't Love have bad mechanics and decision making ability? A project qb in the 1st rd doesn't make much sense unless Rodger's injury problems are considerably worse than the public knows.

[@ziggyszmulewitz7712]

I think the derp was more of a reference to FivePointVids' meltdown.

[@SilvertheShadow]

Ziggy Szmulewitz Oh I’m aware. It’s a tradition at this point to rag on FPV when the Giants make a pick he doesn’t like. I’m only saying that the Packers are the ones who actually earned it.

[@nathanslay6342]

As a Pats Fan, I smile at this! 😁

[@brenbutts]

I smile at the jets robbing you in a trade an hour ago

[@zuippy845]

Andrew Thomas is good moron

[@markgregoris244]

Proud to say I watched this live and laughing with Tree

[@gro8085]

it's a good pick tho, maybe a reach but he's a goat

[@davyt0247]

Khika not too much of a reach, from what I saw most had him going in the 8-12 range. Taking him at 4 isn’t crazy.

[@thekatladyyt]

I haven’t seen such sadness in Five Points Vids since that one Mets game vs Nationals. Dang dude 😔

[@messquiz]

2:20 Jeopardy jingle kicks in. INSTANT DEMONITIZED

[@ericISpanthersn]

This actually made my day

[@buddyyoda7007]

In hindsight Herbert has been very good and would have been a good pick

[@davyt0247]

Although, Thomas has turned out pretty well too.

[@raulp3943]

The Giants have totally taken over the Jets as the "LEGENDARILY BAD" drafters in New York...LOL. Your sinister laugh makes it even better, Tree...

[@buddyfats4768]

Raul Pedroza Jr yeah.....no

[@jaymarti3188]

A Great Plunge into Sadness

[@vixenlover2369]

I'm so grateful I got to see it all happen live!

[@Dan-1031]

Bro he’s actually a top 2 Tackle prospect, but they derped Jedrick Wills

[@finnegancourtney]

This is sadness. This is hopelessness. This is the New York Giants.

[@zuippy845]

ANDREW THOMAS WAS A DECENT PICK!

[@atl4sports]

2 years later: Imagine if they did take Herbert

[@sammy2840]

BEST DERP EVA! Haven't laughed that hard for a long time!!! Excellent!!!

[@dhs0801]

By now this should've been sooooo expected hahaha.

[@thesharkfinnigan]

Coming here to rewatch the pain and glory ahead of today’s “in which optimism dies....”

[@danielevans142]

yikes this is embarrassing for someone who claims to watch football

[@BlueHero112]

This was glorious to see live

[@brotherlylovestudios]

Imagine if your team has a young quarterback who is entering his prime and needs weapons but instead of helping him out you draft another quarterback. Man, that would be a nightmare. At least my Eagles ain’t THAT dumb 🙃

[@ylb2731]

Imagine if your team had a hall of fame quarterback, showing no signs of retiring and made it to the championship game with little offensive help, but instead of helping him out, you draft Jordan Love and a running back to back up their next best offensive player. I wouldnt know, I'm a Vikings fan 😂

[@MemestiffGaming]

What's funny is that Andrew Thomas is actually a perfectly fine pick but FPV's reaction is too much 😂😂

[@importednascar]

The Giants need to be given a chance to show that they aren't completely garbage. Also, The Bills are the only good team in the entire state of New York across all 4 major leagues

[@tylerlarsen1842]

You know it's bad when the Walking Mediocrity is better than the Evil Empire.

[@UndeadShadow826]

What the fuck are you talking about the Yankees were in the ALCS and The Rangers were deep in the wildcard hunt before the season got canceled

[@RajuDhesi]

Nets are decent

[@kevin__brucewilliams]

Nets, Isles, Bills, Yanks

[@importednascar]

@@tylerlarsen1842 Well, at least you don't boo Toronto Maple Leafs player John Tavares!

[@joaquin4497]

This is supreme comedy gold. Laughing at the derps is a tradition as old as time

[@mdogthegodgaming2106]

Can we talk about the packers pick cause I want your reaction to that

[@thestockman6904]

Its wild how AT is now eons more valuable than Mekhi Bekton. One of the few picks it feels like that Gettleman nailed

[@tuckertheyoutuber901]

This aged poorly yet again

[@davyt0247]

To the joy of the Bald man.

[@cypher515]

Tuned in at the exact time FivePoints got up and got a beer. I LOVED it. Of course, in my MADDEN game Andrew Thomas is a beast... but I may have edited that draft class so he IS a beast. Either that or the guy who made the class was biased towards the guy.

[@throwachair4574]

everyone: complaining about the draft in the comments me, a ravens fan:

[@alecnederveld1768]

Me, a Bills fan

[@BoltTheEmolga]

Somehow us Browns fans are happy as well

[@whoasked9500]

@@BoltTheEmolga As a Panthers fan, I'm happy with our picks.

[@jaczekdertuerke]

This is seriously so much better than the entire Packers draft. I with they had picked a tackle.