US Armor & Cavalry Collection Update

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@m35benvids87
@m35benvids87 3 жыл бұрын
It really looks like they got the right man for the job with Rob.
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
He really does love what he does, you can see the excitement, and experience it when you talk to him.
@iatsd
@iatsd 3 жыл бұрын
@@libertycosworth8675 Enthusiasm has nothing to do with competence as a museum manager or conservator. Give me skill and training first & foremost any day. Given the horrible fvck up of a job their "conservation" of the Ferdinand was, I wouldn't trust them with arranging lunch.
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd Have you talked to Rob? I don't think so. Have you ever dealt with the Army's funding, hiring and acquisition process, have you ever guided the construction of a 100,000+ sqft, climate controlled building and renovation of another facility to become a restoration center? I seriously doubt it. And I believe the Ferdinand had been at Aberdeen, not Ft Knox or Benning, so that was pretty much outside of his control and authority. The Ferdinand also returned (at least initially) to Aberdeen after augmenting the Tank Museum's Tiger collection. Almost all of the history of the Ferdinand's state of conservation pre-dated Rob's joining the tiny group at Benning anyway, and the condition overall of the Ferdinand was related more to its lengthy storage outside, all of which, again was outside of the control of the tiny group at Benning. After The Tank Museum requested the Ferdinand, I thought it was pretty remarkable they were even able to make it moveable and get it cleaned up enough to display at all in the relatively short time available before it would be needed for display. I did get to see the Ferdinand at the Tank Museum in England, and it showed pretty well what it was intended to while displayed there. For the size of the team responsible for moving the U.S. Army Armor and Cavalry Collection forward, I think they are doing an excellent job.
@iatsd
@iatsd 3 жыл бұрын
@@libertycosworth8675 Have another go at reading what I actually wrote, septic. I made *zero* comment about Rob directly. I was commenting to the idiot that was talking about enthusiasm. Yes, Rob *is* enthusiastic. And that enthusiasm has exactly fvck all to do with whether he can do his job well. As I said, skill and training are far more important for the roll he has. Enthusiasm is a bonus. I pointed to the Ferdinand as an *example* of what *enthusiasm, but without skill or training* can do to a vehicle whereby they "preserved it", but substantially fvcked it up as an artifact in the process. The video of it is (or was) available on YT. As a trained conservator, I fvcking near cried while watching those butchers fvck that vehicle up. I saw it at Bovington. Up close. I wanted to give those cvnts in the US that did that a swift kicking for the damage they did to it.
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
​@@iatsd you did say Museum Manager - that is essentially the job of the curator. The insult is clearly implied - to deny that is what you meant further shows you are being a bit of a troll. If you want to blame anyone for the state of this collection, blame the politicians, Army Brass and bureaucrats who have alternately created impediments to maintaining the collection mandated unrealistic requirements and also forced neglect through administrative decisions. The USAF has been much more successful in their conservation of aircraft than any other entity which has established a museum, but there are a whole host of reasons why, part is leadership, part is volunteer availability, part is law and a significant part is funding and how the organization acquires the funding. Rob Cogan is a retired Army officer, so he has the training and education to lead and manage this type of operation. His enthusiasm and vision gives him the drive to use that experience to do a good job of being curator. He also really cares about the outcome and has a goal in mind. These qualities, training, education, enthusiasm and drive are essential for a leader to weather the slow march of the bureaucracy of the Army and should enable him to accomplish significant progress in gradually renewing the U.S. Army National Armor and Cavalry Collection in his role as the curator. He will still need top cover from the appropriate Army officers and high ranking civilian leaders, and support from elected officials too. I too watched the video of the rushed prep to get the Ferdinand ready to go to the Tank Museum. There wasn't time to do a restoration, and for you to become disjointed because of your perception of poor quality work does not take into consideration the associated circumstances. Plus if the Tank Museum had not requested the Ferdinand, even that level of work would not have been accomplished. It would still be sitting outside at Aberdeen rusting and weathering. They had to get it mobile (sort of) and presentable to the public, most of whom will never know the difference. Nothing they did wrong, in the sense of even eventually restoring the Ferdinand, even possibly to running condition, is irreversible. It may slow the restoration, but with today's technology, with funding and labor provided, every part is reproducible. An average or even bad paint job can be removed and redone. Your anguish and anger is misplaced and without contextual significance or appreciation of scale. Look at the Littlefield Panther after restoration, and also consider the thousands of man hours and tens of, or hundreds of thousands of dollars it took to reach that level. Most tank restorations are cosmetic and not fully functional, even if the vehicle runs and the weapon operates, they usually do not restore the tank with real hardened armor plate, but with mild steel. These vehicles will never be going into battle again, they are museum pieces. Heck, somebody in the past welded the TOG's tracks, and I guarantee getting them moving again is not a priority for the Tank Museum. I took pictures of my children with all of the vehicles in the Tiger collection while the Ferdinand was on loan to the Tank Museum, so I too was able see all those vehicles up close. I was just glad my kids and I got to see them while we were there. We all knew that the only running vehicle was Tiger 131. It didn't matter at that time that the Ferdinand, both Tiger IIs, and the Massive Jagdtiger didn't run, and overall none of them were vastly "prettier" or more impressively conserved than the Ferdinand, except for Tiger 131. It will take decades, millions of man hours and lots of funding to even scratch the surface of restoring this huge collection. They didn't even have a significant number of people volunteering or on the payroll, and just now are starting to build a core team to do the work that needs to be done. It has taken the Tank Museum decades to do what it has done with the combination of a paid staff as well as a cadre of skilled volunteers, and their experience has been mostly without the interruptions that have been associated with the U.S. collection (like the move from FT Knox to Benning) private collections like the former Littlefield collection are remarkable, but they typically have a group of experienced mechanics and conservators, and volunteers working on one project (mostly) at a time. The U.S. National Armor and Cavalry Collection had none of that until Len Dyer hired Rob.
@bigredjeepyj3436
@bigredjeepyj3436 2 жыл бұрын
When a guy says, "it makes me tear up sometimes......", You have chosen a museum curator wisely. Best of luck to the new facility.
@opperbuil
@opperbuil 3 жыл бұрын
"All my viewers have a security clearance" (12:58) Yes, we're all in The Chieftain's weekend warrior army as armchair historians with some form of rank and status.
@johnknapp952
@johnknapp952 3 жыл бұрын
Darn, my Secret clearance expired 25 years ago when I retired.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 3 жыл бұрын
I just renewed my Security+... that counts right? I mean I'm going to have to run a bunch of my coworkers through Insider Threat training...
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I just did my annual traing. NOT TODAY!
@scrubsrc4084
@scrubsrc4084 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have viewers, he has an army.
@LukeBunyip
@LukeBunyip 3 жыл бұрын
I used to do support work at music festivals. We considered at one point getting t shirts printed with the word *Insecurity* . So, I'm out 😢
@ahnonymuch4183
@ahnonymuch4183 3 жыл бұрын
the guy has so much energy. they had to give him a new large building just to wear him down a bit.
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm still going...let's go for building number 2!
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 need to hitch you up to a T95 "Doom Turtle" for a bit, let you pull the beast to it's new lair. 😆
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 🤣
@bravasnidi4636
@bravasnidi4636 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this collection at Ft. Benning. We took the boys to see the collection at Ft. Knox the year before it got shipped away to sit in storage seemingly forever! Now my oldest is driving an Abrams; did his basic at Ft. Benning last year. Go Raiders 1st ABCT!
@scrubsrc4084
@scrubsrc4084 3 жыл бұрын
This is so long over due, so many vehicles rotting outside for decades.
@jeffreymcfadden9403
@jeffreymcfadden9403 3 жыл бұрын
I was at the armor museum at Knox back about 1990. All the great vehicles sitting outside rusting away!
@Fr1thar
@Fr1thar 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreymcfadden9403 ill take a tank
@Nekrosmas
@Nekrosmas 3 жыл бұрын
This man is doing the world's best job. You can just see it through his enthusiasm!
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
I like to say its both my dream job and personal hell. Dream job because I get to be around and take care of these historical machines. But my own hell because I often stress over how, due to being undermanned and under resourced, it's not enough. I appreciate your kind words!
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 You are doing a great job👍 , just remember you can only eat the elephant a bite at a time. You can't fix 100+ years (in some cases) of neglect by the Army overnight. You are limited by your available time, funding and funded assistance, and you still have to take care of those who care about you too.
@Roulandus-le-Fartere
@Roulandus-le-Fartere 3 жыл бұрын
When this COVID crap is over it's Tank Fest at Bovington, Deutsches Panzer Museum, and now a stop at Fort Benning GA is needed too! Well done, I remember the last dark days at Ft Knox when I was living in the US. So good to see the artifacts are going to be cared for properly now. Thanks for sharing Chieftain!
@johnknapp952
@johnknapp952 3 жыл бұрын
Time to get The_Chieftain into some coveralls and let him get about re-tensioning all the tracks. I'm sure he's the only person on the planet that can re-tension any tank from anywhere.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper Жыл бұрын
AFVID training is important to all soldiers especially for Tankers, Scouts, and Infantry. I went for my reunion at Ft. Benning 3 years ago at the Airborne School but went to Harmony Church. Harmony Church was once the home of the 2nd Infantry Training Brigade back in the mid 1980s and I went through Infantry Basic and AIT there. I think where the Armor Museum is on is where our PT field used to be. Brings tears to my eyes with fond memories of what I went through in Harmony Church...
@aaronpendergrass5956
@aaronpendergrass5956 3 жыл бұрын
Now all we have to do is convince the chieftains wifey to let him camp out there for like a month maybe two. We his followers promise not to ask for anything else.
@Jeremiah90526
@Jeremiah90526 3 жыл бұрын
No we don't.
@davetalley
@davetalley 3 жыл бұрын
Just get him transferred there as instructor
@66kbm
@66kbm 3 жыл бұрын
I like Rob, even his earlier posts were good, especially the M4 variants. Explains all very well. Great video, thank you for posting Mr Chieftain.
@gyrene_asea4133
@gyrene_asea4133 3 жыл бұрын
Good posting. Mr. Cogan is very, very good at what he is doing. Super impressed. It'd be great to get to a fall 'Open House'! GA in the summer? Nah.
@TheAZchambers
@TheAZchambers 3 жыл бұрын
Going to the patton museum in basic training was so Amazing
@gashnal
@gashnal 3 жыл бұрын
i wanted to go to this museum but didnt think it would be a very large collection now i know its worth the drive
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 3 жыл бұрын
As I recall you’re there to receive your promotion. If that’s correct congratulations. If I’m wrong it’s still exciting to see the new facility and to know history will be better preserved.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 3 жыл бұрын
Got the promotion at Hood last month. Thanks, though!
@trevorlong9831
@trevorlong9831 3 жыл бұрын
So what does the promotion do to your career, staff officer or unit command?
@stuglife5514
@stuglife5514 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch Congratulations!!!
@fullsalvo2483
@fullsalvo2483 3 жыл бұрын
I live about 3 hours from Benning. I'm so damn excited!!!!
@frederickvondinkerberg7721
@frederickvondinkerberg7721 3 жыл бұрын
i'm a little over 2 hours away. been to the infantry museum at Benning several years ago and heard they moved the tanks an were going to start what was lauded as the Cavalry Museum... so... they need to open this to public !!!
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 3 жыл бұрын
Same here- I’m hoping at some point I can see this incredible collection in person. I had the opportunity to attend one of their open house event and saw just a fraction of the collection- it was wonderful and informative.
@trevorlong9831
@trevorlong9831 3 жыл бұрын
Regrettably I am in Australia and we can’t leave without Government approval!
@lucisferre6361
@lucisferre6361 3 жыл бұрын
I was just re-watching Inside The_Chieftain's Hatch AC1: Sentinel episode when this updated video emerged. Most outstandingly excellent.
@HeavyTanker1945
@HeavyTanker1945 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance of them getting ahold of the Crusader MkIII being stored in Fort Lee? I'd love to see that vehicle get some love after sitting outside for 50+ years
@ThumperE23
@ThumperE23 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like from the few images I've seen that the US Army has stepped up to protect it's collection. Top work for Mister Cogan and the staff of the museum. One question, with the USMC retiring their M1A1 Fleet, would the Museum be getting one with the full Marine Kit Out to show the difference between the US Army M1A1 and the USMC M1A1?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
That would really be a good thing to have as a museum.
@gordonlandreth9550
@gordonlandreth9550 2 ай бұрын
Extremely disappointed that the Marines are getting rid of their tanks , it will prove to be a mistake before to long .
@Vegalyp
@Vegalyp 3 жыл бұрын
Having met Rob Cogan in person, I can confirm he is as energetic and enthusiastic as he appears on video. Godspeed, sir! And there'll be a new, hopefully much better quality, T28 shirt for you next time you have an open house.
@dylanmilne6683
@dylanmilne6683 3 жыл бұрын
7-10k soldiers a year? Goodness that's like a week of a medium size museum's attendance figures. It really must go public.
@vitoscaletta7151
@vitoscaletta7151 3 жыл бұрын
All it needs is the right people to say the right things. There are dozens of museums already on active military bases. This is the 3rd best collection of armored vehicles in the world, after all
@A.J.K87
@A.J.K87 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitoscaletta7151 Are the first and second Bovington and Kubinka?
@dylanmilne6683
@dylanmilne6683 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally, these places can both support themselves with public funding and will work as a recruitment advocate to the general public. Its mind boggling as to why this place isn't opened up.
@vitoscaletta7151
@vitoscaletta7151 3 жыл бұрын
@@A.J.K87 Oh yes. And those are full on museums, thankfully
@JWQweqOPDH
@JWQweqOPDH 3 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmilne6683 Yeah, the National Air Force Museum in Dayton operates on recruitment funds and suevenier sales alone. There is no entrance fee last I checked.
@TuShan18
@TuShan18 3 жыл бұрын
I actually met this guy when Fort Benning showed off a bit of it's collection to the public a while ago. He's a cool guy that knows his stuff. I'm really excited to see more of the museum when it's ready. I hope to get a job there one day, but I don't think I should hold my breath on it.
@Mr70455
@Mr70455 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I could go to Fort Knox and see awesome historic tanks. The good old days.
@JoeDiGiovanniIV
@JoeDiGiovanniIV 3 жыл бұрын
I NEED to get here to see this when completed!!
@Chaosrain112
@Chaosrain112 3 жыл бұрын
The Chieftain's Hatch: T28 DOOM TURTLE - WHEN? I cannot stop ogling it in the background.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see you do a Chieftain's hatch on the T28/T95.
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
We talked about that briefly. Definitely a possibility. T28 is actually pretty decent looking inside.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 I figured from Sofilein's earlier videos from inside that it was now a real possibility hence why I asked. Thanks for the answer!
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
awesome stuff what a building
@edfrancis712
@edfrancis712 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best curators going.
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@notsomalicious4435
@notsomalicious4435 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to hear this collection will now be inside! I've been but when reading and watching about it I was always concerned about the preservation.
@xinquisitor666x
@xinquisitor666x 3 жыл бұрын
Thx God finally we will be able to see the former Aberdeen vehicles. Missed them so much. Now how do I find out and sign up for open house dates. I stand corrected I guess I have to use social media.
@WayneMoyer
@WayneMoyer 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this isn't that collection. I was just looking at their Facebook site and this is mostly the Fort Knox collection. They have some of the Aberdeen stuff but not a lot. From what I know that went to Fort Lee during the base closures about a decade ago.
@xinquisitor666x
@xinquisitor666x 3 жыл бұрын
@@WayneMoyer too bad
@owenmccarthy2521
@owenmccarthy2521 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the US Army recognized that history is important.
@monkeyboy48391
@monkeyboy48391 3 жыл бұрын
Rob said getting "new" tanks in, some from Anniston Army Depot etc....there is a Jagdpanther at Anniston.....I am PRAYING they bring it to Ft. Benning.
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
It's on the list of items slated to come to us, the Nashorn as well.
@monkeyboy48391
@monkeyboy48391 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 I did not know there was a Nashorn there. With the arrival of the Jagdpanther, would the Collection house the entire Panzer family and variants? (Barring the Maus of course)
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyboy48391 besides plenty of sub-variants, we will unfortunately be missing a Panzer I in the collection. But we will have Panzer II, III, IV, four different Panthers, 3 types of Tigers, a StuG, a StuH, two Marder III, and a Jagdpanzer IV.
@monkeyboy48391
@monkeyboy48391 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 Isn't there a Panzer 1 at Ft. Lee? Couldn't you aquire it like the Jagdpanther?
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyboy48391 the Jagdpanther went from Aberdeen Proving Grounds to the Army's historical holding area at Anniston Army Depot, Alabama, so it is available to come to us and will. The Panzer 1 was selected to be kept by the Ordnance Collection, so unless they would offer it up its not available to us.
@arkbuilder2012
@arkbuilder2012 3 жыл бұрын
With that level of enthusiasm and knowledge this will be a complete success. Well done.
@MrDredd1966
@MrDredd1966 3 жыл бұрын
This now should be open to public visits..
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent news. Nice to see a collection being taken care of beyond the usual minimal standard.
@larryblais518
@larryblais518 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great collection and I love walking around it, I especially love that they have a fully functional M51 Ontos. The MBT 70 is awesome too.
@petergreenson
@petergreenson 3 жыл бұрын
Saw the genesis of this back in 2013 while going through OSUT as a 19D. Good to see it’s finally up.
@mattsnow9273
@mattsnow9273 3 жыл бұрын
There is a driveable M-26 at the Wright Museum in Wolfeboro, NH.
@catfish552
@catfish552 3 жыл бұрын
A video with Rob Cogan and the Chieftain is one I'll watch immediately.
@philipbossy4834
@philipbossy4834 3 жыл бұрын
Turn on the auto-generated subtitles at the end for a good laugh.
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
OH MAN! That's hilarious. I like that story better than the one I was actually telling!
@CournCob
@CournCob 3 жыл бұрын
*HVAC blasting the mic constantly* Auto-gen subs: [MUSIC]
@JazzJaRa
@JazzJaRa 3 жыл бұрын
He was a Nissan Hyundai xD
@megadeuz6148
@megadeuz6148 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video! Just wished that I could see it in person. My friend, who is a Vietnam vet,would also love to see it. Our combined goal is to one day own a tank of some kind.
@thekringe4387
@thekringe4387 3 жыл бұрын
I like how when you start it’s all American tanks and this one Churchill is photobombing
@MrDerek2332
@MrDerek2332 3 жыл бұрын
Its the world's most famous photobombing Churchill it's eather a 3 or 7 Churchill hard to say lol
@gordonlandreth9550
@gordonlandreth9550 2 ай бұрын
Pardon me , photobombing ?
@thekringe4387
@thekringe4387 2 ай бұрын
@ well i guess inanimate objects cant really photobomb but it definitely stands out
@Johnsafek
@Johnsafek 3 жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff, even if I don't get to go there anytime soon I'm glad all these pieces are getting the care they deserve. As someone who grew up near bases with museum facilities (eglin/hulburt AFB/field and NAS Pensacola) I've always appreciated their existence
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Talked to Rob and some of his folks at the Annex during one of the open houses several years ago (learned a bunch about the Sherman variants that I never knew). I look forward to visiting one of the open houses again soon in the new facility. Thanks to Nicholas Moran for sharing this with his subscribers, adding to what Sofilein has been doing over the past few years, with a bunch recently. 👍👍👍👍 BTW, enjoyed the joint Chieftan/Sofilein videos in the past too. Oh, and it's good to hear Len Dyer is there too... He kind of disappeared from making videos a few years ago.
@Dennis-vh8tz
@Dennis-vh8tz 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to see the collection stored properly indoors instead of exposed to the weather and rotting away.
@colonelmustang7642
@colonelmustang7642 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being in training back in the fall of 2016 and I am certain my Company ran past some of these Tanks In an open roofed Depot. I always looked at them and thought what a waste that no one was properly maintaining such history. Glad someone took the initiative and did so properly. I remember there being a SU-85 there as well and kinda curious if that's ever getting in the collection as well.
@alanwoods2010
@alanwoods2010 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like they have the right man for the job there. Thanks for a very informative video.
@dannyneal6194
@dannyneal6194 3 жыл бұрын
Love the discussion! Awesome training opportunity for our troops.
@davidburroughs2244
@davidburroughs2244 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Best wishes to the people doing that good and important work, our faith is in great hands.
@wbradburn8871
@wbradburn8871 3 жыл бұрын
It is grand to hear that the collection is/will be under cover. It is a sin that the public does not have access as it did at Ft. Knox. It is a humbug that Armor had to leave its true and traditional home at Fort Knox.
@wbradburn8871
@wbradburn8871 2 жыл бұрын
@EagleKeeper1916 So was Fort Knox, bozo.
@captaincrazyhat
@captaincrazyhat 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I hope so much that after I get my spinal stimulator implant surgery this summer and I can walk again without too much pain that I will be able to see this magnificent collection. Even if I had to try to schedule a visit I would love my first big walking experience be to see a museum like this or maybe to go to tank fest.
@MartyBecker
@MartyBecker 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to be able to visit this in the future. Grew up in Louisville in the 70s and visited the Fort Knox Patton Museum several times a year with family or school field trips. It would be so nice to see the tanks I climbed around on as kid. I have many photos from that time.
@evilfingers4302
@evilfingers4302 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Collection of Metallic Historical Artifacts
@SunKing968
@SunKing968 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings Chieftain! Thanks for the overview. Do you recall if this museum has a Crusader tank in it? Thanks
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the one in the US is in Fort Lee
@SunKing968
@SunKing968 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch Thanks mate! I went down a "spontaneous research rabbit hole" last night to locate surviving Crusader tanks and it was unexpectedly mysterious- for example regarding when the famous Jacques Littlefield collection was liquidated, I was able to track down the auction results- but their Crusader 2 was inexplicably missing. (The Crusader 3 with the potent 6 pounder is to me what the Sherman is to you : )
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not seeing any comments here from myself so hopefully this won't be a repeat in this comments section - but I have said as much else where. I am so glad to see these vehicles being preserved. In 1970 when I was in Ordnance School at Quantico, they took us on a tour of Aberdeen Proving Ground and it was an experience I will never forget. I'd played Panzer Blitz in High School but - to be standing there on that field of grass in front of a Jagd Tiger and SEE the way a shell had scooped out the metal from the glacis like a finger swiped through butter - made it all very real. THAT was incredibly impressive and - I was deeply saddened to hear that this museum had closed down. As usual when I post this comment - I'll provide a link to a guy who photographed that museum so that people can see what it looked like then. For me ... I can absolutely understand the desire to preserve these vehicles - which after all - if they were still in that field would have been in it 50 years after a I was there - but - it just seemed like ... a Tank ... inside a building ... well .... tanks don't belong inside buildings. Anyway here's the link to this web page. I don't know how much longer this is going to still be there before that web page goes away. www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/AberdeenUSArmyOrdinanceMuseum/index.htm And - here's a picture of that Jagd Tiger at the start of the German Tanks section. You have to look closely to see where the metal is dished out. A picture is just no substitute for standing there in front of it. www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/AberdeenUSArmyOrdinanceMuseum/GermanTanks/index.htm This link shows where that gouge in the glacis is, it's just to the left of the attachment point on the right in the picture. www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/AberdeenUSArmyOrdinanceMuseum/GermanTanks/Jagdtiger/pages/03JagdtigerFrontView.htm Again - not nearly as impressive in the picture as it was to be able to stand there and touch it. My understanding is that this museum - was moved to Ft. Lee and is not the same one at Ft. Benning though I easily could have missed something in the Post BRAC shuffle. Here is a link to this museum on Wikipedia which includes the web page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Ordnance_Training_and_Heritage_Center This museum is also considered a Training Facility and is not open to the public. Which is one of the reasons I keep posting the link to the old museum so people can at least see pictures of the vehicles. .
@ShaDOWDoG667
@ShaDOWDoG667 3 жыл бұрын
Was nice getting a tour while I was with C Trp 2-15. The abrams is there now
@ovk-ih1zp
@ovk-ih1zp 3 жыл бұрын
Hitting the collection on one of their open house days is very much on my bucket list. I missed going to the Patton Museum at Ft Knox & I still am kicking myself for it.
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc 3 жыл бұрын
I remember spending quite a few days walking around the Patton museum at Ft. Knox when I was stationed there been to the old museum at Ft Benning a few times and Ft. Lewis one. Now I wonder what happened to or with the Wursburg US Army museum in Germany. I was infantry but always loved to see and learn the history. I'll have to keep checking on some time to go check it out Ft Benning more.
@joeviking61
@joeviking61 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know how many of these beauties are fully operational…
@pilotsimms535
@pilotsimms535 3 жыл бұрын
They will need an additional hall to house the Bolos.
@havokvladimirovichstalinov
@havokvladimirovichstalinov 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on what mark, theyre gonna need an additional hall for each individual Bolo
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
That's on next years budget request...
@Canilash
@Canilash 3 жыл бұрын
The halls are inside the Bolos, duh!
@vicpecka7356
@vicpecka7356 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good reason to go back to Ft. Benning. Last time I was there I was training 11B trainees how to assemble, disassemble, clear, & perform a function check on the M240.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion for signage, include QR codes which link to more in depth information. Toured CV-16 Lexington last week and the inclusion of those codes was immensely enjoyable.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be 2 жыл бұрын
@EagleKeeper1916 How does one preclude the other?
@ToddDunning
@ToddDunning 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for these episodes, a fascinating interview with a great guy.
@uconnjames
@uconnjames 3 жыл бұрын
When will it open to the public? With such a large collection, I can imagine it's going to be the Bovington in the USA.
@kevkfz5226
@kevkfz5226 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see you yanks preserving your armour history. About time. Well done. I wanna visit!
@black__bread
@black__bread 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic the way it's being used as a living, breathing resource to be actively (and enthusiastically) engaged with. The quick allusions re: how to work the system for funding were good too.
@g.donuts3551
@g.donuts3551 3 жыл бұрын
Had clearance, so just go ahead and tell me. As far as funding, perhaps the museum should open individual(per tank) Patreon or gofundme accounts. To the end of letting the public have some input as to which tanks see further restoration.
@TonyLS9A
@TonyLS9A 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Glad to see it coming together after all these years. Spearhead! Also shout out for the Bolo reference 👍
@josephandersonslaugh4923
@josephandersonslaugh4923 3 жыл бұрын
Always looked at the tanks on my way to the field during basic, my favorite piece was the auto loader m1 abrams. B 2-19
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a lot of faith in Rob that he's going to do right by the collection over the coming years. I live a couple hours north of Benning and my father and I are dying to get down there and check this out once it's available to us Joe Public types. In particular my father wants to see the Tiger, which hopefully gets put on on display! Not many of those floating around the US for public viewing...
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
The Tiger I will go back and forth between this building and the new restoration shop (70 feet away), so it will probably be present for the Open House events, just in unfinished condition for a long time!
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertcogan7109 Thank you for responding and with good news no less!
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sedan57Chevy no problem. I appreciate the kind compliment!
@markbeyea4063
@markbeyea4063 3 жыл бұрын
I think I spotted a 194th Separate Armored Brigade shoulder patch on one of the employees. My first active duty assignment. No longer active, if I remember correctly.
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
The 194th Armored Brigade (as it's designated) is now the Basic/AIT/OSUT training brigade, so every single tanker and scout in training goes through the 194th.
@alanmoffat4454
@alanmoffat4454 3 жыл бұрын
NICE TOO SEE SOME COLLABORATION KEEP UP THIS GOOD WORK 💪.
@mikeh7860
@mikeh7860 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing collection. Wish I could go see it...
@MikeBison_
@MikeBison_ 3 жыл бұрын
That opening shot is just glorious. A T28, a T20, a T29, and what I can assume is either another T29 or a T30. Amazing. EDIT: Holy crap they got the T69? And are planning to get the T54E1? Bless these guys for securing these unique pieces of armored warfare history
@robertcogan7109
@robertcogan7109 3 жыл бұрын
The T54E1 is slated to come to us, no arrival time set though :/
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure they have all the US wartime heavies.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 3 жыл бұрын
Imperium of Man Armor Museum (formerly on Cadia): This Leman Russ variant has 26 bolts on the left armor pannel, and this Leman Russ has a 2.54 mm shorter main cannon, and this Leman Russ....
@tomshepherd4901
@tomshepherd4901 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic collection!
@dcpack
@dcpack 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of those videos that, when it ended, I realized I was sporting a big goofy grin throughout.
@kristofferjohansson3768
@kristofferjohansson3768 3 жыл бұрын
The_chieftain: film us talking about tanks Everybody: show more of the tanks!!!
@darylcav6285
@darylcav6285 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more insides of the tanks, like before
@KiithnarasAshaa
@KiithnarasAshaa 3 жыл бұрын
19:25 "Hey, Jim? Have you seen the T29?" "Uhhhhh, uh oh..."
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 3 жыл бұрын
Model makers watching this.... Have you considered turning your various kits into a "museum". Model makers and museums both have a collection, Stands to reason a model musem complete with miniature description plates would be kinda fitting. A recreation of Bovington perhaps? Bonus points if you make a model gift shop containing model models. Yes space/area would probably be a promblem.
@glenndean6
@glenndean6 3 жыл бұрын
Great facility. I need to get down there...
@BrockvsTV
@BrockvsTV 3 жыл бұрын
I will definitely take a trip just to go through on one of the public days
@bryantblake1877
@bryantblake1877 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion! Have often wondered how we could fight a war if all the tech wonder machines BROKE IN COMBAT! I liked the analogy of using the WWII tank gunner to show the current current tank gunner how to go into manual mode. Sometimes old is not really outmoded! Would love to see that new museum! But alas age has overtaken me and the is little chance I could make the detour with my wife on a trip from Atlanta to Mobile to visit our daughter.😊🇺🇸
@nathansears5257
@nathansears5257 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an inside the hatch on the panzer 38 t
@thegodofhellfire
@thegodofhellfire 3 жыл бұрын
hope to visit one day. amazing collection.
@reswhiz
@reswhiz 3 жыл бұрын
I had visited the APG collection numerous times over the decades. It pained me to see so many historically valuable vehicles slowly decompose in the MD sun and humidity. But, now that the collection has been scattered to the four winds, I am sad that they will never again to viewable by the public.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 3 жыл бұрын
It's a question of funding. Says a museum the general public paid for but cannot access. Am I missing something here?
@Leatherface123.
@Leatherface123. 3 жыл бұрын
So the public can’t see it
@Hunter12396
@Hunter12396 3 жыл бұрын
No that's the way the Army wants it, no dirty plebeian taxpayers in their museums. Rob tries to do open houses at Fort Benning, but the people running Fort Lee don't let anyone in.
@Leatherface123.
@Leatherface123. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hunter12396 so no open house, so I can’t see my baby the T95
@joaonagae
@joaonagae 3 жыл бұрын
13:40 is that an MBT-70?
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and an Isherman next to it.
@keystone117
@keystone117 3 жыл бұрын
And to the left of it is an M706E1 (V-100 Commando) armored car from the Vietnam era, nickname was “duck”.
@nhancao4790
@nhancao4790 3 жыл бұрын
Would you do a M18 Hellcat inside the hatch video?
@tanker7
@tanker7 2 жыл бұрын
Did the Chieftain say "Bolo"? Love it!!
@safn1949
@safn1949 3 жыл бұрын
Ferris Barracks, Erlangen Germany, when I was there they had a Sherman and an M59 outside Battalion HQ, along with 2 M47's on the machine gun range, I was there in 1975-76. Wonder what happened to them.
@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 3 жыл бұрын
i am so glad these precious pieces of history are proper housed
@trolleysparks3941
@trolleysparks3941 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Thanks.
@spencerw9784
@spencerw9784 3 жыл бұрын
Very upsetting it isn’t open to the public.
@bas6601
@bas6601 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to see that they are inside and protected from the elements now. There are a lot of tanks sitting around in various public parks and outside of VFW and American Legion halls here in the Midwest. It's kind of sad to see them rusting away.
@laheu
@laheu 3 жыл бұрын
This really is excellent, wish them the best.
@toweroftrollgaming
@toweroftrollgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see some of the tanks i saw at Knox and APG are being brought to a bigger facility
@captainswoop8722
@captainswoop8722 3 жыл бұрын
Did I see a Fox armoured car in there at 5:23 ?
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