US military bases on Okinawa an unwelcome legacy of war with Japan

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5 жыл бұрын

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The Japanese archipelago of Okinawa was the scene of one of the bloodiest battles of World War II. Over 82 days in early 1945, an estimated 200,000 soldiers and civilians died in a "typhoon of steel". The legacy of war survives to this day. The United States never left the islands, setting up 32 military bases there. They were used during the wars in Vietnam and Korea, as well as more recently in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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@Duex-Leon
@Duex-Leon 4 жыл бұрын
Venezuela: We aren’t scared of the U.S military Japan: We shot down a couple boats and they unleashed the sun TWICE
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
THAN TELL ME WHY MADUROS KEEP HIS RUSSIAN JET ON 24 HOUR STAND BY TO FLEE TO RUSSIA?
@TropicLightning-
@TropicLightning- 4 жыл бұрын
Noel Venezuela is hot, buggy, disease infested and poor. You don’t need to be afraid of USA military. Your own Government kills and starves it’s own people. Good luck with that.
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
The Japanese attacked on Pear Harbor killed 3,000 and disabled many US Sailors in addition to many where blinded. The loss of ships and property was expensive in addition Japan attacked the Phillipines, Guam and other US bases. US Prisoners of war were tortured, maimed and beaten the Japanese used US POWS for medical expirimentation at Unit 731. The Japanese where convcited of many crimes and the US was kind to Japan however if the Japanese had the Atomic they would have used on the USA, By the way you should watch Japans Atomic Bomb Part 1 and learn how close Japan came to having the Atomic bomb because Hitler had supplied Japan with enriched uranium. Please don't play the the poor innocent Japanese victim role! Don't firget the Batan Death March where the Japanese killed 10,000 American soldiers.
@jarrodyuki7081
@jarrodyuki7081 4 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlywilliams7543 how the hell do you know of all our deeds?!! youre too smart for your own good.
@MD-gz7ns
@MD-gz7ns 4 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlywilliams7543 japanese internment camps in the US
@andtam008
@andtam008 5 жыл бұрын
So, basically the people in Okinawa have said NO to the US military bases for decades! No democracy for the people in Okinawa when it comes to the US military bases.
@huntermulhall4849
@huntermulhall4849 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the people actually voted on moving it to a less populated area of the island, but some anti-Okinawan base politician cancelled that idea, as he wanted it either gone completely or no deal. In other words, it's not so simple.
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
I AM SURE THE PEOPLE IN OKINAWAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD PREFER TO UNDER CHINESE COMMUNIST RULE. ARE YOU DIRTY LOW COMMIE RAT?
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese never asks US for help...in fact the common japanese public have protested and fought against US military bases in Japan....but the japanese government do not listen..they are US puppets.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese government is a puppet only serves US interest.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
@@huntermulhall4849 Nah, the Okinawanas wanted US military base to completely disappear from Japan. But the corrupt Japanese politicians allowed US to maintain military base against the wishes of the Okinawans...(nice try though for trying to bend the facts.)
@farscope
@farscope 5 жыл бұрын
france dont you have bases in africa, pacific and south america? france 24 should do a story about that oh yea they wont cause everything is america fault in the world
@Getgood1980
@Getgood1980 4 жыл бұрын
its a bias report
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
THE FRENCH WHERE THE EVIL COLONIAL POWER JUST ASK ANYONE!
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Getgood1980 No, truth hurts.
@MH-kc1eu
@MH-kc1eu 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty biased, France literally had military bases all over the world, Vietnam was even colonized by France. The USA has military in Japan only to protect it from China and North Korea and also to help strengthen the Japanese self-defense forces
@entertainmentjoke2871
@entertainmentjoke2871 Жыл бұрын
Butt hurt? Everyone knows USA has most military bases oversea.
@pulsatingsausageboy2076
@pulsatingsausageboy2076 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I spent some time there and none of the locals were unkind to me. However, I do think there’s too many military personnel there for such a small island.
@charlesburke2379
@charlesburke2379 Жыл бұрын
Okinawa is one the most highly militarized spots on earth. Huge Army. Navy and USAF facilities plus a whopping one third of the entire US Marine Corps is on the Rock. Okinawa was about as isolated and far from home as military service ever gets. It had the busiest mental health unit in the entire worldwide DoD!
@grandkalbi5331
@grandkalbi5331 Жыл бұрын
same thing with hawaii. military are increasingly become nuisances
@Mr196710
@Mr196710 9 ай бұрын
@@charlesburke2379 Having lived in Okinawa for 7 years in the Navy as a medical professional I would love to know where you got your statistics. Small Army presence here as Tori Station isn't that large. Afghanistan would be further and much more remote than Oki. Wow.
@charlesburke2379
@charlesburke2379 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question! My descriptions were of the Rock during the Vietnam years. Afghanistan was never a US priority until 9/11. But you're right Afghanistan is certainly more remote now. And Diego Garcia might be further still. But if you did 7 years on the rock you've got to be the most disciplined individual that ever lived!@@Mr196710
@petedube9367
@petedube9367 Жыл бұрын
I have lived in both Japan and Okinawa . The Japanese people have always been very miltaristic . The older gentleman who does all of the protesting wish he could still live in the old days when the Japanese treated the Okinawans as slaves . The French man who was the narrator for this piece should do a special on how the French government treated ,or should I say , mistreated the Vietnamese people when the ran rough shod over that country . I also lived in Vietnam for 5 years and got to know many older Vietnamese who do not have good memories of how the French ruled that country . This guy makes it sound like we invaded Okinawa just to take it over . It was used as a stepping stone to stop Japans desire to rule that whole area as part of the Axis power . 🎃🎃
@gegegec
@gegegec 5 жыл бұрын
Japanese politician wants US's deplomatic support. but doesn't want US army base. So they put most of them into okinawa. what a shame.
@fadlya.rahman4113
@fadlya.rahman4113 4 жыл бұрын
There's also US base in Yokosuka, near Tokyo metropolitan.
@runawayspringroll5288
@runawayspringroll5288 4 жыл бұрын
you know the U.S was the one who picked the location after war because it's the best strategic location. the base in Okinawa played the most crucial part during the war because of how well the location was and the us military wanted to keep it that way.
@alfathmuqoddas6986
@alfathmuqoddas6986 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the old generation still have that kind of spirit to express their protest
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 Жыл бұрын
It is ignorance!🙄
@JamesBoz
@JamesBoz Жыл бұрын
2022 - I am in Okinawa on holiday and have passed by these bases, there were 40-50 security guards guarding and just 4-5 activists who looked like homeless people. I personally find the high level of security in the area to be comforting.
@mike4402
@mike4402 2 жыл бұрын
"Polish occupation of East German Territory an unwelcome legacy of war with Germany" See how stupid that sounded?
@horsekfobster7823
@horsekfobster7823 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re pretty dumb for comparing that to this.
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Poles should get the hell out of East German territory
@khadrtrudeau1662
@khadrtrudeau1662 5 жыл бұрын
Quote " My father use to work on that base" How much money does the military pump into that economy per day ? Puerto Rico was $400K per day, Navy left Puerto Rico went bankrupt.
@communistsinthegazebo4457
@communistsinthegazebo4457 3 жыл бұрын
okinawas main economic earner is domestic and international tourisim
@momosinger4190
@momosinger4190 8 ай бұрын
😉If there were no US bases, Japan would definitely be attacked by China.🙂
@user-qy4tl3bg9f
@user-qy4tl3bg9f 4 жыл бұрын
I’m one of the citizens of Ginowan city. And the base is 50 meters away from my house. I’m always annoyed with the noise of helicopters and jet fighters. And they dropped the part of a helicopter in a kindergarten 2 years ago, and dropped the window of the helicopter in the ground of a elementary school 3 years ago. But they are still flying above our house and kindergartens and school. I want to remove this dangerous base from my city, but I don’t want to pollute the beautiful Henoko’s ocean. There is a great nature and a lot of rare creatures. There must be any other way to remove the base, but Japanese government says “That is the only way to remove the Ginowan’s base” without having enough discussion. It is not only a problem of Okinawa, it’s problem of Japan. All of Japanese people and government have to treat this problem as it is our own problem. Thank you for reading this comment 😊
@simbaarnab6735
@simbaarnab6735 3 жыл бұрын
Finally local people speak up. Okinawa really strategic for US. US want to balance power in East Asia.
@esburnside
@esburnside 3 жыл бұрын
China is ready to make your lives blissful! Have fun!
@nintendolegonbafan5413
@nintendolegonbafan5413 3 жыл бұрын
No. They cannot remove the base. If that happens, you can expect an invasion within days. The base isn’t dangerous. If you are annoyed with the planes flying over, there’s nothing you can really do to stop it.
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure China is more than happy to move in if US get out.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese never asks US for help...in fact the common japanese public have protested and fought against US military bases in Japan....but the japanese government do not listen..they are US puppets.
@simontide6780
@simontide6780 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if they want it so bad. Just leave them. Let the China have their own way with them. Considering if Okinawans can defend themselves.
@JPNZenii
@JPNZenii 3 жыл бұрын
9:41 u got no business playing that hard ass beat outta no where.
@kungfujiujitsufliptrick4832
@kungfujiujitsufliptrick4832 2 ай бұрын
😂
@katr8495
@katr8495 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... what is the reason the US have 1000 military bases outside of their own borders? I've never really understood that, the need for that much military dominance... they have them in Italy, Germany, Australia, they heavily dominate the Asian Pacific too, why?
@nelsonzou3890
@nelsonzou3890 3 жыл бұрын
The reason is because the U.S. is the dominant power in the world so the U.S. wants to keep it that way to. Which is also the reason why U.S. currency are so valued and accepted in every major country. If the U.S. were to pull out from those countries, Russia and China would just take over the empty spots, only furthering their power.
@jomaridelapaz3404
@jomaridelapaz3404 3 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonzou3890 you’re a smart one
@TheWarrek
@TheWarrek 3 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonzou3890 Not only that, if the USA take its troops from japan, then japan will have to spend more money in it's military to keep hold of those places, and this will cost more. Look at what's happening in europe, Us troops were taken out of there and germany asked them to not leavy, that's because with them there is safer and less costy. Even if the locals don't like it, they don't know how much more money their governent in have to spend to build and replace the us military bases, and as alies of the us they expect to be protect too.
@hoodlum4511
@hoodlum4511 2 жыл бұрын
Its a strategy based on warfare. You see setting up military bases could give you a greater advantage point. It happened back in WW2 and in Vietnam War where united states, China and Russia expanded their power around the globe just in case for another global fight. Because if they don't, some smaller either 3rd world country or not will be left undefended during another great war.
@Djstalker89
@Djstalker89 2 жыл бұрын
do you wanna speak russian or chinese? lol
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this was reported quite inadequately & also from primarily an anti-US bias (only speaking w/ drunk US military grunts, really?) instead of covering all the intricate sides of the issues involved properly. I absolutely agree w/ many issues that a portion of the Okinawans have. A good friend of mine I grew up w/ is Okinawan & the issues involved are far more complex than shown here. A very important aspect is the Japanese history of how they treat the Okinawans & how this restricts the US's ability to work directly w/ Okinawan leaders as the Japanese govt has full control of Okinawa & is legally a part of Japan. Personally I would like to see the Japanese govt give Okinawa more automony & this would help iron out a major aspect influencing all issues involved. The Okinawans are a very smart ppl & I'm sure deals accepted by the 3 parties involved could be reached then.
@davidfirmino3829
@davidfirmino3829 2 жыл бұрын
the reality is that Okinawans don't want to be occupied . most Japanese accept the base cause they don't even understand the cost to japan nor do they care about Okinawans. there is no justification at all for US to still occupy japan no matter how much some people try to justify the occupation. US doesn't belong there .
@chickensoup9869
@chickensoup9869 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfirmino3829 I see Americans justifying Nagasaki using "How many Americans were killed in Okinawa?" but what were and are their military bases doing to the people of Okinawa?
@robertellis1281
@robertellis1281 4 жыл бұрын
I lived on Okinawa and at foot of mt. Fuji , We can train together be respectful of each other and work at safety
@elnorton7113
@elnorton7113 3 жыл бұрын
Do the girls feel so?
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese never asks US for help...in fact the common japanese public have protested and fought against US military bases in Japan....but the japanese government do not listen..they are US puppets.
@Unknown_Ooh
@Unknown_Ooh 2 жыл бұрын
@@dota2playersenjehang703 If we weren't there you and Taiwan would be ran by the Chinese communist party
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown_Ooh and become like China, number 1 economy ,most advanced nation with poverty alleviated.
@Semajfrmkp
@Semajfrmkp 2 жыл бұрын
@@dota2playersenjehang703 sad 😞
@pshrising2016
@pshrising2016 3 жыл бұрын
Non Okinawan Japanese: These protestors are Korean
@mitonaarea5856
@mitonaarea5856 3 жыл бұрын
Now they blame "communist" China for every of their problems lol
@bhipper2027
@bhipper2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitonaarea5856 What the hell do you mean by "communist" China. China is absolutely a communist state.
@alustin
@alustin 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhipper2027 authoritarian yes, communist no. no truly communist societies have ever existed.
@bhipper2027
@bhipper2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@alustin you are delusional
@123goldenlily
@123goldenlily 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhipper2027 the most fundamental idea of communism is the idea of taking the means of production + power out of the hands of a relative few people (i.e. monarchs, corporations), and giving regular everyday people the power to make and own their own things. The "communism" that is in China (and formerly the USSR) isn't actually communism because of the fact that their gov't is authoritarian-- the means of production + power is STILL in the hands of a small amount of people compared to the general population.
@sheridanbucket
@sheridanbucket 5 жыл бұрын
US Military Base-- yes... but, it is ALSO Japan's Defense against aggression from those who wish to do Japan harm. Look at it from that perspective, and the Japanese protesters are actually protesting their own country's best defense! Besides, most victors of war would have taken the entire country as spoils of war; but, not the USA. America rebuilt Japan. Compare America's after-war treatment of Japan to Japan's treatment of countries they invaded during WW2. Japan had no mercy for those whom it invaded during WW2. Big difference to 'protest' about.
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
Just think many people Mao Ze Dung killed with his five year plane. Just look at South Korea and what success they are. Than compare to living in China and North Koreas Dictatorships.
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
The Chinese inavded Japan twice and kept on trying eventually Japanese gave China some payback!
@destubae3271
@destubae3271 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the US was extraordinarily kind to Japan during occupation compared to the alternatives. They could've split the country up with the USSR, and if that happened, it would just be Korea 2
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 2 жыл бұрын
Please no facts here
@MyBelch
@MyBelch 6 ай бұрын
The emotionally fragile, historically illiterate are such snowflakes.@@wwbuirkle
@MattCellaneous
@MattCellaneous 5 жыл бұрын
You never said the turnout percentage for the non-binding referendum. 74% of people voted against the American presence but what was the turnout? Because as I understand it the Lion share of opposition it's from senior citizens. So what was the turnout?
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
That's low down commie rat lie that 74% of Okinawans did not vote against the American Bases however it's 2% of Commie Rat Okinawans who voted Communist! After Okinawa's restoration to Japan in 1972, the latter party was merged into Japanese Communist Party which lies like a rug and claimed 72% of Japans population was communist. Ha, ha, ha the commies rats are the best lying ha, ha, ha!
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt you know nothing about Asian culture and don't you realize that senior citizens carry a tremendous amount of power, experience and respect known as Asian intelectual wisdom at home and politics. This means the seniors always win when it comes to serious voting in Asian Politics and family matters since the seniors control how the family money is paid oout!
@deutschlanddeutschland7111
@deutschlanddeutschland7111 3 жыл бұрын
There were over 90.000 people on the street demonstrating against the US military penetrating their home in Okinawa alone in 2010... that is so - many. Especially for humble people like Japanese. Makes the numbers quite credible.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, stop trying to spin.
@mitonaarea5856
@mitonaarea5856 3 жыл бұрын
@@deutschlanddeutschland7111 Okinawans are diffrent than the Japanese you encounter in honshu´s bigger cities.
@rothschildwarbank4960
@rothschildwarbank4960 5 жыл бұрын
When people say they do not need you to be their hero but you insist.maybe your not even close to being who you think you are. Hundreds of usa military bases overseas serving no americans,likely causing much hate towards america.
@garyc3233
@garyc3233 4 жыл бұрын
not trying to be hero, want advance warning if another kill attack there or here on me and us, i wish the war bank would pay me though, imo and im not against minimizing some...but heh, you could form a 'international brotherhood of 'help' and we could send you.... serious, im not against japan finally take over own basic defense again... you just need to study history better..... what i really against , is like usa,,, ppl crying and hiding against their neighbor, and i have a few...im old enough... but seem to forget the horrible way they are when let loose,, and just not that long ago, and having the nerve to protest over one or two acccidents we have here all the time..... when they are supposed to be working with us out of fear of china... they would be the first to call...so i hate the lying wrong way imo the usual backwards morality
@TheSeattleGamer
@TheSeattleGamer 3 ай бұрын
There were like 3 people below the age of 70 in the group. Wish they interviewed younger people.
@wafi3187
@wafi3187 4 жыл бұрын
The moment Japanese lost the war, they not only lost there war but also the proud and respect full history. 戦争に負けた時、日本は戦争だけじゃなくプライドと尊敬するべき歴史も失われた。
@Seenya59
@Seenya59 3 жыл бұрын
I was on Okinawa 50 years ago. The only protests I saw were against the Japanese government. No less than three times was the Japanese flag torn down flying at separate schools by Okinawans. The Okinawans disliked the Japanese more than the Americans. They blamed the Japanese for bringing the war to them.
@itsupportpropertymasters1679
@itsupportpropertymasters1679 2 жыл бұрын
50 years ago? That’s a long time ago
@Seenya59
@Seenya59 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsupportpropertymasters1679 It sure is.
@itsupportpropertymasters1679
@itsupportpropertymasters1679 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seenya59 You must be old
@itsupportpropertymasters1679
@itsupportpropertymasters1679 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seenya59 You 59 years old?
@Seenya59
@Seenya59 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsupportpropertymasters1679 No, I'm 72.
@elinong1063
@elinong1063 Жыл бұрын
Long Live the people RYUKYU. May your struggle be fruitful.
@europa_bambaataa
@europa_bambaataa 3 жыл бұрын
please enable auto captions
@METALMAN4Wii
@METALMAN4Wii 3 жыл бұрын
Not all us American believe the US needs to be the police of the world btw.
@remains10
@remains10 3 жыл бұрын
it just happened after ww2 too hard to get out of it now
@TWE_2000
@TWE_2000 5 жыл бұрын
15:35 you know you're doing something right when a country's nationalist are fiercely supporting your military being their country.
@ynakoliai5146
@ynakoliai5146 4 жыл бұрын
Or Wrong
@Andrew-rs6cb
@Andrew-rs6cb 4 жыл бұрын
Those dudes in trucks are just paid shills. Takeshita Noboru is a famous prime minister who got caught paying them off
@MyBelch
@MyBelch 6 ай бұрын
Japan is a sovereign country. US forces are stationed in Japan at the request and invitation of the Japanese government. The MUTUAL defense treaty serves BOTH the United States and Japan. Okinawa is strategically better geographically located than anywhere else in Japan. If Japan no longer wanted US forces in its country, they could easily rescind the mutual defense treaty. It's as simple as that.
@entertainmentjoke2871
@entertainmentjoke2871 Жыл бұрын
And Okinawan doesnt like Japan at all. Okinawa was actually independent until Japan Empire invade and occupied it.
@jason4275
@jason4275 5 жыл бұрын
He's saying Akinawa
@tatankahaska
@tatankahaska 4 жыл бұрын
jason4275 lol
@besttoiletpaper6433
@besttoiletpaper6433 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when you are under military occupation, you have no sovereignty on your own land.
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 2 жыл бұрын
LOl it's not occupation genius it's protection,fact is most Okinowans have no problem with the military
@aidanjohnson7050
@aidanjohnson7050 2 жыл бұрын
we're never going to leave, and thats good. we conquered the island, and honestly, we should never have granted it back to japan
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Do you really think the USA can last forever while it can't even protect it's own citizens from high crime rates
@tarnishpolicies662
@tarnishpolicies662 4 жыл бұрын
Stop saying it like that PLEASE
@reneesantiago6496
@reneesantiago6496 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Okinawa 2 yrs ago and im going again when they open borders this summer. My daughter, husband and grandson are on base there. It is simply THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TROPICAL island ever!!
@okilife.official
@okilife.official 4 жыл бұрын
SO informative! Oklife loves what your doing and the info you share about our home Okinawa!
@linhai69
@linhai69 Жыл бұрын
China should support Okinawa Independence the way US supports Taiwan.
@MegaFarah78
@MegaFarah78 9 ай бұрын
True
@jimharris5616
@jimharris5616 2 жыл бұрын
Futima was built around the military base after it was established. There is a large communist presence on Okinawa. Other areas have had similar incursions. They do those things to spy on the bases and to stir up the Okinawa's against the American presence. I was stationed there for two years and mixed with the local people so I speak from a position of knowledge.
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 Жыл бұрын
China is a brainwasher!
@ibungothangjam524
@ibungothangjam524 Жыл бұрын
Okinawa was a sovereign nation. "okinawa" is not a native name.
@opredniends1940
@opredniends1940 Жыл бұрын
Liu ciu kingdom was it?
@marcellomonterosso4379
@marcellomonterosso4379 4 жыл бұрын
We also in Sicily(Italy) want americans to go away for Sigonella air base, especially if there is a war with Iran.
@happyalltheday2275
@happyalltheday2275 3 жыл бұрын
Also the Iraqis and Syrian
@emersonwaminal612
@emersonwaminal612 2 жыл бұрын
Idiot
@skymaster4743
@skymaster4743 2 жыл бұрын
It's understandable. I am pretty sure the Iranian high command has the ability to reorient and fling advanced ballistic missiles from South Lebanon towards the US bases in Sicily if they feel threatened. Italians should be concerned.
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 2 жыл бұрын
@@skymaster4743 Yes because we all know the outstanding record of the Italian military.LMFAO
@Razzle_Dazzle-
@Razzle_Dazzle- Жыл бұрын
I see no point why USA have bases in Italy. Other than bombing North Africans countries that can't retaliate and they have done it which cause refugee crisis.
@jason4275
@jason4275 5 жыл бұрын
*I wonder how much money, in the city of Okinawa would be lost, if the U.S. pack up and leave Okinawa, I doubt any professionals in economics would have positive results.*
@michaelbaytop2341
@michaelbaytop2341 4 жыл бұрын
jason4275 look at Puerto Rico, what you said has been proven correct multiple times.
@richardyapp728
@richardyapp728 4 жыл бұрын
Singapore even has no own water supply and farmland as Okinawa. Back in 1965, Malaysia authority said Singaporeans will beg on the road after independence. In 2019, Singapore is the 3rd wealthiest nation in term of per capita behind Qatar and Luxembourg. Singapore has survived an prospered. Okinawa will become another Singapore when Yanks packed and left.
@bradthorne22
@bradthorne22 4 жыл бұрын
France why dont you worry about leaving Africa first
@WO2411
@WO2411 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@totalhistorychannel1156
@totalhistorychannel1156 3 жыл бұрын
Then maybe the Africans worry about leaving France
@trikewars
@trikewars Жыл бұрын
Other videos on youtube where Japanese people are interviewed on the subject seem to disagree with the sentiments put forward by this state owned news company (lol) France 24 either genuinely didn't find any dissenting opinions to the narrative that is being pushed with this video or they selectively chose to interview some but not other natives. Ask yourself, which sounds more plausible?
@richc3310
@richc3310 Жыл бұрын
Free Okinawa!
@justalaugher
@justalaugher 2 жыл бұрын
It's just hilarious watching this video and hearing the japanese people talking about being scared of China and North Korea. It was Japanese who launched attack on China and Korea and dragged the latter two victims into the second world war. And now Japan is playing the victim card. How could this happen.
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 2 жыл бұрын
That's ancient history genius.Japan went soft on their own military while you have a lunatic in NKorea itching to try out his new toys
@beamyshark
@beamyshark 2 жыл бұрын
@@wwbuirkle the so called “ancient history” happened not even a century ago, and the effect of it is still visible
@AmzadAli-dg6qs
@AmzadAli-dg6qs 2 жыл бұрын
The japanese government should respect the local peoples opinion.this is twenty first century now no country will attack Japan,the government should understand and respect the local peoples opinion
@rajashashankgutta4334
@rajashashankgutta4334 2 жыл бұрын
What about China?
@iporcupx9574
@iporcupx9574 2 жыл бұрын
What about North Korea?
@Amal-pc6uf
@Amal-pc6uf 2 жыл бұрын
@@iporcupx9574 why would North Korea attack Japan? I’m sure the Japanese military are capable enough
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd Жыл бұрын
@@Amal-pc6uf japan has no nukes. north korea has icbm. and lot of it
@rodbutler4054
@rodbutler4054 4 ай бұрын
America protects Japan and the Japanese government are happy with that arrangement with their main forces away from the main islands of Japan in Okinawa.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 2 жыл бұрын
This has aged well 😂
@Slade951
@Slade951 3 жыл бұрын
US should just move out and let Japan deal with China themselves.
@bhipper2027
@bhipper2027 3 жыл бұрын
They do not have the infrastructure to handle a 1st world army like China, its would be a mess.
@james4299
@james4299 5 жыл бұрын
Japan loves America us base in Japan will be great
@michaelbaytop2341
@michaelbaytop2341 4 жыл бұрын
commoDoggo 69 ikr, people sometimes
@OMEGA1995
@OMEGA1995 5 жыл бұрын
Us should go to their country and stay
@baronvonwolf1457
@baronvonwolf1457 5 жыл бұрын
That would be detrimental to the global balance of power and would disrupt the global democratic order, increasing odds of global war and a return to aggressive nationalistic imperialism. I think the US should take a more passive role in the world but should continue to defend it's democratic partners.
@khadrtrudeau1662
@khadrtrudeau1662 5 жыл бұрын
We would love to leave. Want to be president promise to not be the world policemen. Talk to Britain and Japan about the USA leaving.
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Those are just excuses right now America is the great (but dying) imperium
@christiansylvialanham6967
@christiansylvialanham6967 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking from experience Okinawa is a beautiful and amazing place. I am extremely apologetic towards the Okinawan’s for some of my fellow Americans actions. And yes I would love for the USA military to be able to leave the island. The Japanese government and USA government are working on a plan. But people must also understand that USA and Japan must work together to make sure that China and other countries in Asia do not interfere with the peace of Okinawa after US forced relocate.
@davidfirmino3829
@davidfirmino3829 2 жыл бұрын
China is not a threat to Japan. That's just an excuse to keep the occupation going.
@samuraiavassalador
@samuraiavassalador 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfirmino3829 seriously? China will divide the Pacific with the U.S. in the future!
@samuraiavassalador
@samuraiavassalador 2 жыл бұрын
Christian S, U r so optimistic, of course Xi Jing ping will invade Japan if American bases disappear from Japan! U r so dumb
@benharrison4885
@benharrison4885 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you are completely wrong. I'm no fan of China, particulary its dictatorship government. But US occupation is a legacy of WWII. China is used as an execuse to maintain that occupation. You do realize that Okinawa, or Ryukyu, as it's historically known, had a long history of peacefully coexisting with China, long before US was born.
@beamyshark
@beamyshark 2 жыл бұрын
who exactly was the one who invaded okinawa huh? hint: not the chinese nor the north koreans 😃
@Alex-kb4zh
@Alex-kb4zh Жыл бұрын
Biased report. But there are indeed a little too many troops and military effectives there.
@mlane5432
@mlane5432 5 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Oki and living there most of my life, the “Hate” for US bases is false news. An exaggeration of a very small portion of the Okinawa population. For every public demonstration and protesting, there’s a whole group of people to clean it up and post signs thanking the US forces. Wish the media would cover that.
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
Hey we all know that low down two legged commie rats are ungrateful to say the least.
@ssgallencooper
@ssgallencooper 4 жыл бұрын
Next time think before you attack "The Sleeping Giant"
@jacktherimmer3621
@jacktherimmer3621 2 жыл бұрын
Every empire in history based on military strength has fallen. Wait.
@user-vl2jw2xy3r
@user-vl2jw2xy3r 2 жыл бұрын
第二戦世界大戦の沖縄戦でたくさん犠牲者や自殺者も出ているけどみんなにとっては恐れている!
@KataIIama
@KataIIama 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh shit hasn’t changed since 1945
@Code3forever
@Code3forever 4 жыл бұрын
From the end of World War II to 1972, Okinawa was a US possession gained as a result of the spoils of war and by agreement in the treaty. The protesters don't acknowledge how they and their fathers were employed in the massive construction projects from 1949 on. They were treated well and pretty much taken care of. How would that have gone if China took control? They have a legitimate complaint about how a few servicemen have acted and committed crimes against the native people. Those perpetrators should be punished. There is more at stake here and the Prime Minister of Japan knows it. North Korea is a loose cannot and is a very real threat to Japan and others. Okinawa is a strategic location for air bases and rapid US Marine deployment to Asia in addition to our military people in South Korea and Guam. Okinawa depends on currency from the US military, US military personnel and their dependents for their own livelihood and Japan knows it. The issues regarding the islands in the South China Sea is another bone of contention which is a serious concern for not only Japan, but the Philippines and Vietnam. Keeping the US military in Okinawa is necessary because they are the main deterrent from China and especially North Korea from doing anything stupid other than saber rattling.
@billoleary6236
@billoleary6236 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing anything like this mentioned by the completely uncurious show makers. They were content just to film the blind to history gripes of a protest group.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese never asks US for help...in fact the common japanese public have protested and fought against US military bases in Japan....but the japanese government do not listen..they are US puppets.
@shadowkillz9606
@shadowkillz9606 2 жыл бұрын
@@dota2playersenjehang703
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Japan and other pro US states should be allowed then to properly rearm then so they don't need to depend of the US military
@noemicubol41
@noemicubol41 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on kadena Air Force base is the dangerous in the world??
@germanshepherd6638
@germanshepherd6638 2 жыл бұрын
We’re here because of the bears ! 🐼
@7ak
@7ak Жыл бұрын
One complication with this issue is that the opposing activists are likely to be Chinese agents. They are trying to aggravate relations between Japan and the U.S. by fomenting division between Okinawa and the U.S. military bases.
@giuseppe9501
@giuseppe9501 Жыл бұрын
As a U.S. citizen, I'm in favor of closing all foreign bases abroad and retracting the nuclear umbrella. Dont want to die for any other country on the planet. Times are changing
@INFJ595
@INFJ595 2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇲 : wouldn't the 🇰🇵 🇨🇳 , just applaud.... yes Yes yes Yes , make them (🇺🇲) leave.
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 2 жыл бұрын
Many of the young people have no problem with the US there
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
The OSS made Communist China
@2liablee731
@2liablee731 4 жыл бұрын
They started it
@totalhistorychannel1156
@totalhistorychannel1156 3 жыл бұрын
Who "they"
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Sorta but the US deprived them of all their resources and they were gonna send volunteers to fight in China anyway
@alex182618
@alex182618 5 жыл бұрын
Absolute lie. Very few people are unhappy. Most are perfectly fine with it. It's funny to listen about it from France 24 TV. How well did French fight in WW2?
@ghostmost2614
@ghostmost2614 4 жыл бұрын
Start Silly Wars Win Silly Prizes
@momoreno944
@momoreno944 4 жыл бұрын
Stationed in Okinawa, Mar 1972-Sep 1973, US Army, Sukiran
@deutschlanddeutschland7111
@deutschlanddeutschland7111 3 жыл бұрын
Who is stationed on your ground?
@peytonl2976
@peytonl2976 3 жыл бұрын
Deutschland Deutschland They are the perks of being a superpower, like Germany failed to be. dont be salty
@kaito-ur3pj
@kaito-ur3pj 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know English... Japanese translation please
@Yggdrasilkuru
@Yggdrasilkuru 4 жыл бұрын
海翔 kawaii desu UwU
@kaito-ur3pj
@kaito-ur3pj 4 жыл бұрын
Weeb Ygg We not cute when I get older
@IIHawkGamingII
@IIHawkGamingII 4 жыл бұрын
日本人はアメリカの軍事基地がすきくない 私の日本語は悪い
@bestquotes2765
@bestquotes2765 2 жыл бұрын
US using japan as a lapdog
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 2 жыл бұрын
Sooner new, remote base is opened, the sooner the existing US Marine base will be returned to the Japanese government. The city was allowed to be build around the base up to the boundary. This was allowed by local government officials and supported by voters. Yes Okinawa is overburdened by numbers of US military personal but you can’t beat the location. Same reason Hawaii is crammed with US military personal / bases. As to landfill, Japanese developers are world leaders in landfill development, just see Tokyo Bay. The area for the runway makes it possible to have the least impact in local area it is being build in. Japanese central government subsidizes Okinawa more then any other area in Japan. If US Forces were to leave it would cause a long term recession and cause it to hollow out population wise like a lot of areas in Japan.
@MyBelch
@MyBelch 6 ай бұрын
Overburdened? Or blessed?
@ivansantana3067
@ivansantana3067 4 жыл бұрын
Call it by its proper name: A continuous occupation of Japan by the US
@hussainanoordeen5754
@hussainanoordeen5754 4 жыл бұрын
That's the truth. Japan is not really independent.
@mr.iforgot3062
@mr.iforgot3062 3 ай бұрын
September 7th 1941
@yousnortthedsnotofdirtyric3382
@yousnortthedsnotofdirtyric3382 5 жыл бұрын
1:24 lol this dude is literally gonna go home and eat on some whales and dolphins, now all of a sudden he's concerned about well being of the environment?
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 4 жыл бұрын
Newsflash, not all japanese people eat whales and dolphins
@ageofz1520
@ageofz1520 2 жыл бұрын
@Loli4lyf 元はと言えば、白人が鯨を乱獲したのが悪い。日本は全く悪くない
@robertharrison1601
@robertharrison1601 Жыл бұрын
World science super ADMIRALTY law group chat
@edgarperezlfwl
@edgarperezlfwl 4 жыл бұрын
BC Street , Purple Haze ..... Fatima 8" Self Propelled Howitzer . NUCLEAR .
@yoyoneen213
@yoyoneen213 2 жыл бұрын
US have Military in there country lol Japanese people said we don't care but what can we do...
@MrLandon23
@MrLandon23 4 жыл бұрын
"my father worked on the usa base", because my grandfather worked for the other side, and let's not forget china is keen on taking
@gardengnome2409
@gardengnome2409 3 жыл бұрын
Great piece of journalism.
@undisputedtruth2075
@undisputedtruth2075 2 жыл бұрын
Force US forces out......Chinese decide to invade....you will be screaming for the US to come back !!!
@skinnytothefeet3531
@skinnytothefeet3531 4 жыл бұрын
man it must suck to have your country invaded because you lost a war.
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
It must suck for your country to be invaded while the US won now Mexican and Asian colonies are being made all across the USA
@rhyskoisen6015
@rhyskoisen6015 4 жыл бұрын
im all for the people of okinawa, i completely support them. hope they drive out the US and live peacefully.
@cavscout888
@cavscout888 4 жыл бұрын
They can't "live peacefully" if the Chinese communists aren't contained by the US, or if ISIS in the area isn't swiftly dealt with. It's not like the US presence is bringing war and unrest to them... quite the opposite. Also, they lost a major war... they're lucky they're free and independent. No other immensely strong victor in the world would have granted that.
@rhyskoisen6015
@rhyskoisen6015 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point yet, from what I know of Japan's military statistics they have the capability to put up a good defense to Chinese communist because of their latest development in missile technology mounted in the JSDF SHIPS. But I don't know anything about ISIS and also... every country America defeated were left independent for a reason and especially if that country is Japan, I mean don't you remember what happened on Okinawa, on iwo Jima, on saipan, the Japanese people will always be THE JAPANESE PEOPLE, THE US knows they couldn't have kept the Japanese quiet long enough during the occupation after WW2
@kuririn1975
@kuririn1975 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the SOFA agreement with Japan there is not to be any residents, schools, and business 500 yards from the fence line of the bases. But with growth the populace was allowed to move closer and closer. In some parts of Futenma there are houses maybe 18 inches from the fence. The US allowed this due to the growing population in Okinawa. As horrible as those accidents are they were just that accidents. Should Futenma be moved yes, it can be relocated to Kadena as majority of aircraft flown on Futenman are Attack heliocopters.
@davidfirmino3829
@davidfirmino3829 2 жыл бұрын
The US allowed??? It's not your country. Imagine another country building a base in US and then making the rules governing the surrounding area. Your arrogance is mind blowing
@kuririn1975
@kuririn1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfirmino3829 I have no arrogance I am stating the facts between the agreement between the two countries. When the US goes and bombs another countries city, and that country comes around and conquerors the US then sure let them build the bases. Until then eat soup. But trust me on this one thing I have the utmost empathy for the Okinawan peoples. I have spent the majority of my life on that little island, married now to one of its people's. Own a house there (well my son does). If you truly research the Okinawan peoples feelings on the bases. You will find the majority are not true Uchinanchu, but people from mainland Japan that want the bases gone so they can buy up the land to open businesses.
@rachedel-moctar4290
@rachedel-moctar4290 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is that the government in the mainland doesn't care about the needs of Okinawans and the cost to growth, dignity and safety that hosting a foreign military there poses.
@Ari-ft3lm
@Ari-ft3lm 3 жыл бұрын
We support you Okinawan citizens i hope you're next government will pay more attention to you
@hien963
@hien963 2 жыл бұрын
They want another mushroom soup or what?
@andrewwalker1134
@andrewwalker1134 2 жыл бұрын
The spirits of Okinawa will never rest, while the Americans remain. I spent a few days in 2018 in Okinawa, in the company of a Shinto religious leader, studying the spiritual issues associated with the US presence and I attended a powerful, Shinto religious ceremony at a shoreline religious site which highlighted the spiritual disturbance, where the victors of WW2 stayed and didn't go home. It seems like the US will never leave and the ghosts will never be able to rest, as a result. This is the big issue of Okinawa.
@sta1100
@sta1100 4 жыл бұрын
Okinawa is already handle back to Japan, but US is still very much control !! Any accidents is push a side WHY because he Japanese gov need to listen to their US master.
@totalhistorychannel1156
@totalhistorychannel1156 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the soldiers raping japanese sometimes ❤️I'm so jealous
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese government is US puppet.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
Japan is still controlled by the US. It is not a free country. They need freedom from the US.
@sta1100
@sta1100 3 жыл бұрын
They need their US to protect them but on the other hand US is making use of them.
@dota2playersenjehang703
@dota2playersenjehang703 3 жыл бұрын
@@sta1100 Come on they dont need US to protect them. The japanese have been trying to kick the US military out for decades. would they do that if they needed protection ? common sense .
@gashiyumi3124
@gashiyumi3124 4 жыл бұрын
That is your lifetime karma Japan
@ride0RgetR0DE0n
@ride0RgetR0DE0n 3 жыл бұрын
Okinawans aren’t exactly Japanese the Okinawans were treated horribly by Japanese forces in ww2
@totalhistorychannel1156
@totalhistorychannel1156 3 жыл бұрын
You're racist. Don't judge people where they come from. Passport shaming bad
@mitonaarea5856
@mitonaarea5856 3 жыл бұрын
@@totalhistorychannel1156 mimimimimimimimi
@thoorwulfn9z383
@thoorwulfn9z383 5 ай бұрын
Nothing lasts forever I can't believe how many of my own country men learn history at McDonald's and don't even realize they're dealing with the actual karma right now
@ali09gaming58
@ali09gaming58 4 жыл бұрын
These gog magog have ruined the world
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
Without the US in Okiknawa than China can gain a foothold in the region that will weaken Japan!!!
@storyclips
@storyclips 4 жыл бұрын
The japanese are smart enough to figure that out for them selfs..the American must leave japan..the are occupy japan for strategic reasons that's al and America let how hard it sounds pearl harbour happen..
@flyinpug3791
@flyinpug3791 4 жыл бұрын
Kimberly Williams no one cares
@kimberlywilliams7543
@kimberlywilliams7543 4 жыл бұрын
@@flyinpug3791 I would not want to know a third rate schmuck like you keep it up if you can and where do you come? Oh that eight you come from the land of A-Holes. By the the way America and Japan are allies and who could are what you think? Ha, ha, ha!
@flyinpug3791
@flyinpug3791 4 жыл бұрын
Kimberly Williams are you even American? You can’t even speak proper English. That base does nothing for us. Oh well, your way of thinking is quickly dying. More Americans are realizing that those bases are only giving money to the weapons contractors and stupid politicians. Go be paranoid somewhere else, I’m sure there’s rocking chair somewhere with your name on it ready for you to catch up on the latest on Fox News
@coachbeam3600
@coachbeam3600 4 жыл бұрын
Soloman G lmao 😂
@seanberthiaume6909
@seanberthiaume6909 2 жыл бұрын
Think of the $MILLIONS$ spent there anually by the US military!?
@Ghazeee
@Ghazeee 3 жыл бұрын
Its wish of United states what it does its us choice
@daydreamer4342
@daydreamer4342 3 жыл бұрын
YANKEE GGGOOO HHHOOOMMMEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@remains10
@remains10 3 жыл бұрын
you know that is extremely racist and you can get banned for that
@remains10
@remains10 3 жыл бұрын
@The Jokebrandt you know it’s the same as saying the n word when non Americans say it right?
@OkiMiku
@OkiMiku 5 жыл бұрын
What's not given is this is mostly the older generation of Japan. The newer generation of Okinawa is all with it Edit: nevermind, video mentions it; made the comment in the first place due to all the comments
@BestCountryEvr
@BestCountryEvr 5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure we also kept those bases to prevent a Soviet-sphere being set up just like what happened to China, North Korea, and Vietnam.
@BestCountryEvr
@BestCountryEvr 5 жыл бұрын
first last Um we don’t though. We are just pretty influential country.
@ellashy6539
@ellashy6539 Жыл бұрын
I hope China will just liberate this place called Luchu not Kyushu its an independant country!!!
@kiDkiDkiD12
@kiDkiDkiD12 5 жыл бұрын
Where helping keep them safe from China, its worth it even if its annoying
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 5 жыл бұрын
And then it's a major forward operating base when the war does happen. And a big war is most certainly coming, but not yet imminent. These international relations and the wars themselves are about money greed and lust for power. Not even all the knowledge and technology in the world will prevent a great unprecedented disaster once the genie is out of the bottle with missiles flying.
@codyshi4743
@codyshi4743 4 жыл бұрын
Should the US military leave or stay in Okinawa?
@kthevsamig4958
@kthevsamig4958 4 жыл бұрын
eswe this is karma for what they did
@tkk2015
@tkk2015 4 жыл бұрын
???: US should leave Japan! Go home American! ???(🇨🇳): xi xi xi... then our plan is success! Go go glorious People's Liberation Army‼︎
@apollo4885
@apollo4885 3 жыл бұрын
@eswe if we leave china will take Japan in a month and that's me being nice bc I love Japan culture I know ya fight with honor but china is right north of ya hours away easily can move hundreds of thousands of soldiers at your front door
@thecreep5123
@thecreep5123 3 жыл бұрын
@eswe you really have no idea what you're talking about fool. We can leave, so will all our support to Japan along with it. And when your cheeks are getting clapped by uncle Xi don't be screaming for your life headass
@thecreep5123
@thecreep5123 3 жыл бұрын
@eswe also yall niggas bombed us pearl Harbor. We didn't just get involved with the Japanese for no reason
@r3dpowel796
@r3dpowel796 4 жыл бұрын
Okinawa is not a threat to China honestly. Whiping it out is the easiest way when everything is concrtrated in one island.
@cavscout888
@cavscout888 4 жыл бұрын
Most Okinawan civilians weren't killed, so much as they killed THEMSELVES. Or died actually fighting the American forces.
@sunnydaysddt2068
@sunnydaysddt2068 5 жыл бұрын
It's called colonization. I feel sorry about Japanese.
@christopherbonilla5588
@christopherbonilla5588 5 жыл бұрын
Feel sorry for your country the Japanese are one of the biggest economies in the world and most developed. The United States helps keep Japan safe from North Korea and China and that requires military bases!
@sunnydaysddt2068
@sunnydaysddt2068 5 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbonilla5588 Japanese must be so happy to have US military in their land. So who nuked Japan in WWII? Protect Japan , what a joke !
@sunnydaysddt2068
@sunnydaysddt2068 5 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbonilla5588 if US is so kind to help Japans economy, why did it force Japan sign unequal trade deal in 90s, and try to suppress it's economy?
@christopherbonilla5588
@christopherbonilla5588 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunnydaysddt2068 You sound like an idiot dude! First off ww2 ended almost 80 years ago. We live in a new world. And who the hell said The United States was so kind on trade deals with Japan? Never even mention trade deals you dork!
@mariamchale8866
@mariamchale8866 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbonilla5588 but cant the jappanise build their own millitary bases in Japan and still be allies with the USA or does the USA have to put their bases in other countries to try and be influential
@navyseal1689
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The accident only happened once...
@WALTERBROADDUS
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Bull.
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