US Navy Seizes Five "Pirates" | Are they Pirates or Privateers? | What To Do With The Pirates?

[@georged1209]

I like the idea of a Summary Court held by the Navy Captain with sentence of death carried out immediately. Alternatively, walking the plank sounds just as well.

[@trentonwallace667]

That there be rated Arrrrrrrrrr, matey!

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

But why is the rum gone?!?

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

That sounds nice in theory. However, this is not 1823.

[@Stephen8601]

@alexadao8852 Now, that's an excellent idea.

[@michaeladams2959]

I'm kind of partial to "Keel Hauling".

[@zrebbesh]

US code says USA ships have to be under threat for the navy to take sanctioned anti-piracy action. But the charter of the US navy, in its very first article, says the US navy's primary purpose is to protect ALL shipping from pirates. Particularly state-sponsored pirates. Which principle takes precedence tends to depend on decisions made on the high seas by ship and fleet officers.

[@brianfoley4328]

"What Pirate ? Skipper"..."The Pirate we just captured, Senior Chief"..."I'm sorry Captain, but we don't have a Pirate"...in the background the sound of a splash could be heard "Yes, Sir, I can guarantee we don't have any Prates aboard".

[@bob___]

As I recall, a principal reason why the US hasn't ratified UNCLOS is that (at least one version of) UNCLOS contains provisions on mineral rights in international waters (such as in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific) which seem inconsistent with US interests. EDIT: On pirates vs privateers, privateers have letters of marque issued by a governmental authority.

[@engelag]

Is this why we don't ratify UNCLOS? We might want to issue letters of Marque? CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA-1787 ARTICLE. I. SECTION. 8. 1 The Congress shall have Power To 11 To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

[@brentfarvors192]

No. A "privateer", is simply any Pirate that operates with permission/contract of a gov't entity...In this case, the pirates contract with whatever local warlord is "in charge"; Then, get a cut of the booty..."When you do it, you are Pirates;/When we do it, we are "privateers"...It's still illegal, and historically punished by death...

[@kyosokutai]

@@brentfarvors192 P.sure the warlord does not have the legal authority to issue privateer badges.

[@brentfarvors192]

@@kyosokutai Say's who??? /S They are still pirates, regardless of who they work for...The only reason the term "privateer", was invented was to prevent their respective countries from taking all the loot..."My contract say's I get %40..."

[@cheddar2648]

Dig deeper... if your cover story for Howard Hughes's _Glomar Explorer_ is seabed mining of mineral nuggets, then it would be contrary to private interests to ratify UNCLOS.

[@noyopacific]

I appreciate your explanation of the distinction between Pirates and Privateers, especially because you confirmed my assumptions. 😄 Thanks for the video Sal, keep up the good work !

[@stvdagger8074]

The 1856 Convention of Paris outlawed privateers. The United States also refused to sign it as they recalled how effective privateers were in the War of 1812 and planned to issue letters of marque if they ever got into war with the UK again. Ironically, 5 years later the USA tried to join the treaty, because the Civil War had started and they feared what Confederate privateers would do to their own commerce.

[@wgowshipping]

Excellent historical reference. A+

[@tomriley5790]

The US then complained about the UK building a warship for the confederates (even though they didn't arm it) and the UK ended up paying compensation (which is rather hilarious).

[@jwenting]

and the US navy is still actively involved in piracy/privateering (I consider it to be the same thing, plus privateering being an act of war). Remember the US navy earlier this year stealing an Iranian oil tanker? yeah.

[@omstout]

​@@jwentingyou mean the Iranian tanker that was in violation of international sanction?

[@Archangelm127]

@@jwenting Theft vs legal seizure of assets is basically a matter of perspective.

[@Inkling777]

I've studied the role treaties have in U.S. law. I think I understand why we are so reluctant to sign them even though we often studiously stick to their terms. Like the Constitution and federal laws passed by Congress, _a treaty can override federal and state laws._ On the surface that seems unimportant, but that's not true. That's an indication that treaties can cover more than relations between nation states. In some circumstances they can interfere with and even override federal and state laws personal individuals and their personal rights. They transfer decision-making from our people and their elected representatives to distant bodies that can dictate the meaning of those treaties.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

Agree. The U.S. is very hesitant to sign any treaty that can take away their authority. Except Israel. Israel is a tiny nation with no strategic importance to the U.S. Still they run the U.S. foreign policy in the ME. And they are masters in manipulating American elections. The American public go crazy over the 'fictional' Russiagate, but cheer on Israel. Why? 100 Million evangelical Christians living in the bible belt.

[@NotASeriousMoose]

The irony of pushing the world into a rules based order and then objecting to signing on yourself.

[@coldspring624]

well we do not want that

[@element7795]

The U.N. lawyers have a tendency to redefine things, and in 5 languages which don't always translate into perfect agreement. The U.S. Navy should operate under U.S. laws not the laws of Luxenbourg or in Russian or necessarily under the minimal ones that all members of the U.N. can agree on. From what I understand, for example, terrorism was left off from crimes against humanity. The U.N. is not a responsible body in the normal sense. What is the approval rating for the U.N. boss, when do I get to vote for or against him? I guess when I chose between Biden and Trump. The U.N. has never expelled members who refuse to follow legal norms so these members are part of "the U.N." and U.N. regulations.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

@@element7795 .. You just made a case for abolishing the U.N.

[@alansnyder8448]

Thank you!! This was exactly my question. It will be interesting to see if there is any follow-up on the identity of these people and what ultimately happens to them.

[@Glen.1966..]

Great explanation of the law against piracy and well done again Sal for giving us a understanding on all topics you bring to youre channel! 👍👍👍

[@donalddodson7365]

Thank you, Professor Sal. So if the carjackers are working piratically, they keep or dispose of the vehicle. If, however, they were contracted by a government to boost car sales, they would be privateeraticals? 😅😂😮

[@Archangelm127]

In this context, a privateer would be if say Canada issued permits for Canadian carjackers to come to the US, steal cars, and then drive them north of the border to be sold/chop-shopped/whatever.

[@deth3021]

0:10 It isn't only pirates that are romanticised. Highway men, Robin Hood, hackers, heck even politicians. And those are just off the top of my head.

[@gshingles]

Bank (or casino) robbers

[@deth3021]

@gshingles conmen. Gangster, mob bosses. Drug smugglers. Etc....

[@mathewritchie]

I cannot help but think that the other classes listed would be horrified to be listed with politicians.😇

[@dimensionaltravelerchanga1072]

Thanks, Dr. Glad to have a source such as yourself. This is a complicated matter, indeed.

[@dasauto44]

Excellent work. You are the best Sal. Why is there no Active Advisory for Venezuela while the state department currently has a DoNotTravel Advisory? Crime and violence is off the charts down there yet they somehow manage to offer vacation packages to foreigners who mainly visit Los Roques via Yachts.

[@brentfarvors192]

Beleive me: If you sail into any port with a yacht (And, pay moorimg fees...), they will make darn sure no criminals mess with your boat...

[@sumotony]

@@brentfarvors192 Not true I understand that recent past Venezuela navy bumped a british ?licensed cruise ship/icebreaker. Obviously the Ven. navy vessel sunk :)

[@Einwetok]

@@sumotony That was some guy trying to resell it elsewhere, kind of like a bicycle cop trying top pull over someone that says "No".

[@leestamm3187]

As an old Navy veteran, this whole problem annoys me. The vagaries of the international laws and/or treaties supposedly governing such criminal acts are clearly being exploited or ignored. In reality, the distinction between pirate and privateer is essentially meaningless when the acts are carried out in recognized international waters. The fact that any rogue government can authorize so-called privateers to engage in piracy in recognized international waters should have no effect on the defensive response of the vessels under attack, or the forces of their own or other nations. Piracy is piracy, however it may be obfuscated by diplomatic jargon, and should met with whatever armed response is required. Ok, Rant over.

[@urrywest]

The US does a lot of commedeering..... What do you call that?

[@abcdef-l2c8t]

In the old days they knew how to punish pirates...

[@ayadlammar]

Do you know about the USS liberty? What happened to it?

[@leestamm3187]

@@ayadlammar Yes, I remember it well. During the 6 Day War in 1967, Israel misidentified it as an Egyptian vessel and fired on it, killing American personnel. Israel subsequently apologized and paid millions in compensation to the families of the dead and wounded.

[@abcdef-l2c8t]

@@ayadlammar it endured better than US liberty as a whole, ill tell you that much. Wasn't piracy was military action. I have heard versions both supporting the version it was mistaken identity and negating it. Each coming from sides with their own narratives to push and im not sure how to verify which is truer. The idea that it was a false flag to drag america into that war makes little sense because: a. If true, it didn't work. b. The IDF won that war handily by itself in a glorious quick victory remembered for ages. US military involvement was not only not needed, but would detract from that. If they could have pulled such a ruse, 1973 would be the only time they could have been desperate enough to punk the mightiest military on earth at the time, belonging to a nation they relied on it's support. Speaking of naval incidents and false flags... What happened to the USS maine? That's an interesing case. What happened to the kursk submarine? Even rival nations sometimes prefer to hush such incidents up and work it out behind the scenes, before their populations cry for war. Some should not throw stones. p.s. nevermind, you are not even a concerned american, just an islamist spamming about israel. Idk which coutry are you from, but the glass walls of your house are probably even thinner than both americas and israels.

[@douglasfur3808]

It sounds like the gentlemen in question had a skill set that was no longer marketable in their home country and therefore found work elsewhere. If the ship is registered in Liberia could they deal with the prisoners? Or maybe dropped there and told to walk home?

[@richardc020]

This totally became listlessly interesting and I am impressed by your shared enthusiasm and also deep knowledge of this surprisingly relevant topic!

[@wgowshipping]

Thanks!

[@markkringle9144]

If you're a privateer, you have to have a letter of Marque, or you're a pirate.

[@Redfox161616]

I think we need to seriously think about having armed merchants again

[@HunterD510]

Merchants used to follow US frigates down to the West Indies

[@JoanneLeon]

If there's a business opportunity I'm guessing that some of the many military contractor companies will jump on it

[@abcdef-l2c8t]

That could help against pirates, not against state actors or militias, even as shabby as the houthis.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

It's not an option.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

Why aren't they reasonably well armed? I'm not saying they should be able to sink a third world navy fleet but they should have defensive weapons.

[@13699111]

Im concerned about the working class crews the job is already so difficult without risking death. Thank you for all the interesting informative videos your posting on your KZbin channel

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

For real it’s so wrong how working people are being punished for the politics or wealth of others. A lot of these guys don’t come from countries that are easy to live in. And they are just trying to feed their families.

[@itstrue-lcw1]

Great stuff👏 Just got here & never thought I was that interested in shipping 😮 But I love what & how you present your info & insights 👌🙏✌️

[@zrebbesh]

The legal status of pirates is 'Hostis Humani Generis' - loose translation, 'Enemies of all humanity.' Not only does every nation have jurisdiction over any pirates they capture regardless of who they've been attacking or what country their ship is flagged under, but every nation has an OBLIGATION to all other nations to exercise that jurisdiction and prosecute them. And that status is completely unique. No other kind of criminal is regarded as 'Hostis Humani Generis.'

[@SpringIsBACK]

Correct, and China is showing its true self by not assisting vs. the pirates.

[@whyjnot420]

@@SpringIsBACK The ccp are the pirates.

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

@@SpringIsBACK I think it’s kind of to our benefit that they are not.

[@jondurr]

Walk the plank! Guantanamo is always open!

[@CarolReidCA]

Great presentation, Sal! The details should fetter out who all was involved. If no link to the state, they'll have a lifetime to think about it. If they are state linked, they could be tried on other charges. Either way, those 5 people will likely be spending life in prison.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

ferret out

[@cheddar2648]

While aboard _GREEN BAY_ in pirate infested waters in 2011, we had serious talk about using the abandoned VLS space for captured pirate housing. Those San Antonio ships were designed to have VLS cells forward, but this was cancelled, yet the void space remained. A literal gaping, unused space forward of the pilot house below deck. Interesting times.

[@rickarmstrong4704]

Thanks! Afew sheqels Pirated Your way Sal ! sorry it is Canadian but actually three times better exchange that a shekel it takes 2.71 of them today! Cheers!!!

[@wgowshipping]

Thanks Rick!

[@jaybryan9812]

Hi Cap....as a long time follower of your channel I had my drink ready because I knew you would say 'Bab all Mandeb a lot...Not to worry, I took a swig every time you said it and also one for you....feeling to pain right now.....BZ RD3

[@mrr5835]

Based on what you showed, I imagine the U.S. didnt ratify the " piracy" document, because their own document is less explictly worded, and allows them more freedom.

[@IbiEntertainment]

America 🇺🇸, Israel 🇮🇱 and EU🇪🇺 are the biggest Pirates 🏴‍☠️ and Terrorist funder here! If Somalia 🇸🇴 or Yemen 🇾🇪 said to everyone no Israelis ships 🛳️ then they should respect their wishes here or the consequences will be a lot higher then what’s now. Trust me dude you don’t wanna wake up the Somali ppl including Djibouti cause they’re Somalis as well. The American 🇺🇸 base in Djibouti 🇩🇯 it’s door 🚪 will be shuts off by the ppl not by the puppet government in Djibouti 🇩🇯 by Somali ppl so those 5 guys must be handed to the Somali Government or Somalis man will go and join Palestine 🇵🇸 the war in GAZA and trust me Israelis and Americans will be doomed when it comes against Somali fighters in the war cause they never lost a war in history. The Americans 🇺🇸 and Israelis should think twice my friend.

[@Shepardofman]

Duh

[@Lilleskoer]

👍 Appreciate your knowledge and that you say it all 'the way it is.' 💛

[@nunyabusiness863]

Thanks for this. I've always wondered about this and concluded decades ago that legalese and unenforceable agreements mean its not worth the headache for a "law abiding" nation to deal with piracy the way a "rogue" or uncaring nation will. Kind of like how some people will not argue and simply knock somebody out, not worrying about getting sued while a reasonable person will conclude doling out instant justice isn't worth the potential legal headache. However, one will make the perpetrators think twice now and in future, while the other essentially emboldens the perpetrators. Its a shame. What good is turning the pirates over to Yemen?

[@johnfrye5190]

Under 14 USC 89 , USCG in region have authority to board as LE agency, thats why they are in the region

[@sparkzbarca]

This wasn't a coast guard cutter. Also for the coast guard to actually have law enforcement authority there needs to be a treaty and then this needs to be the waters of the country we have a treaty with that we are enforcing really that nations laws (I Believe for example we recently did do this with Philippines due to Chinese issues where we say we will help Philippines patrol and enforce Philippine law in Philippine waters) Or they perhaps must have committed the violation in those waters and then fled to open water where we pursue or something.

[@jonmoceri]

The USCG is only a LE agency in US waters. Otherwise, it engages in Privateering on the high seas.

[@dimensionaltravelerchanga1072]

You didn't mention the follow-up rocket from Yemen. Pretty good evidence they are Yemen-state-sponsored. Which is the thing that would REALLY complicate this.

[@NotASeriousMoose]

Yemeni state meaning the ruling Houtis or the old dictator supported by the US still kicking around?

[@SpringIsBACK]

@@NotASeriousMoose It'd be the Houthis, who are ruling PART of Yemen: Roughly 1/3 the land area, but about 70% of the population. The Houthis are NOT recognized as the gov't of Yemen.

[@TheVigilant109]

Very interesting Sal. Many thanks

[@robertb5948]

Thank you for sharing your passion

[@philipfreeman72]

The unarming of vessels could be a big contributing factor .

[@xtbum3339]

What? Pirates were taken alive? A damn shame.

[@sweynforkbeard8857]

make them walk the plank? Keel hauled?

[@IbiEntertainment]

America 🇺🇸, Israel 🇮🇱 and EU🇪🇺 are the biggest Pirates 🏴‍☠️ and Terrorist funder here! If Somalia 🇸🇴 or Yemen 🇾🇪 said to everyone no Israelis ships 🛳️ then they should respect their wishes here or the consequences will be a lot higher then what’s now. Trust me dude you don’t wanna wake up the Somali ppl including Djibouti cause they’re Somalis as well. The American 🇺🇸 base in Djibouti 🇩🇯 it’s door 🚪 will be shuts off by the ppl not by the puppet government in Djibouti 🇩🇯 by Somali ppl so those 5 guys must be handed to the Somali Government or Somalis man will go and join Palestine 🇵🇸 the war in GAZA and trust me Israelis and Americans will be doomed when it comes against Somali fighters in the war cause they never lost a war in history. The Americans 🇺🇸 and Israelis should think twice my friend.

[@joer9276]

As a former C5F BWC I appreciate this video, it brings back some good memories and headaches.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Were any of them named Captain Jack? Great episode. Very informative and very funny.

[@ronald_with_wings]

Great work Sal

[@ypaulbrown]

well done Sal....cheers from Florida, Paul

[@rickc4317]

Well explained good info, Sal. Thanks.

[@JBERRY603]

Good Job Sal!! Support Jones Act!

[@veramae4098]

I'm reading "Treasure Island" by Stevenson. I'd forgotten how good it was. But man, the pirates are mean.

[@Fred_Bender]

Keel haul and/or walk the plank is called for here .

[@flyingsword135]

Have a yardarm handy?

[@Telephony954]

We all know that if you are a Pirate and get caught, you get keel hauled, then you walk the plank into the arms of the sharks. That's common knowledge.

[@christopherdaly1399]

Thanks Sal. Luv that word, "piratical"!

[@johnkonrad1276]

I agree, two thumbs down for pirates 👎👎

[@laurenglass4514]

So UNCLOS is not enforceable ?? If you ratify and sign and then there is no consequences or enforcement then what good is it?

[@joeschenk8400]

Make them walk the plank!

[@kb9liq]

They are not pirates or privateers. They are called bait or fish food. Depends on if they are attached to a line when you throw them in. lol

[@Archangelm127]

I agree. It's important to keep the sharks fed.

[@godlugner5327]

6:06 I thought "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" helped make a torpedo! Not a mine 😂

[@Dr_piFrog]

There is always "plank walking"

[@deniermurch8693]

Sal, I am sure you can find an answer, and solve the problem. Think man think/!!!!

[@wgowshipping]

Oh...I have ideas!

[@Kana7782]

Another great video!

[@SuperDave_BR549]

Jay Booty, sounds like the name of a pirate rap band Superb as always Sal, mucho appreciated good Sir.

[@kam70111]

Good question.

[@Intabih]

Wasn't there a pirate aircraft in your video about the Israeli ship that was taken? From Yemen?

[@markseaton7863]

Thank you again, I would enjoy attaining any information that you have about Privateering. I desperately need my Salvaging and Privateering License. By the way, you are hired.

[@garylrau]

Wouldn't a privateer carry a letter of marque (from a legitimate government)? Also, imho these events can only be treated as piracy or acts of war.

[@Archangelm127]

Yes, that's the distinction between a privateer and a pirate. However, a privateer from another nation is considered just another pirate by the target nation. The letter of marque only carries legal power in the issuing nation and any allied nations that choose to recognize it.

[@garylrau]

@@Archangelm127 Nevertheless, since there is no letter of marque there is no defense from the charge of piracy.

[@ILuvRum]

These were terrorists not pirates. Terrorists engage in acts of violence to advance political aims (the case here). Pirates do so purely for economic gain.

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

... And the US Congress is at war against terrorists. (The global war on terrorism and all that.)

[@ropeburnsrussell]

Why not use gitmo for pirates? Big facility just sitting there...

[@davidkleinthefamousp]

Oh, that guy who laid on the praise? Yeah, me too! ❤️

[@waynep343]

Can 18 USC codes be used against boat thieves and boat strippers in the california bay area?

[@marksages1691]

Yes... but City council and State of California refuse to enforce it

[@nathangraham8162]

Thanks matey

[@janetalexander6671]

hello Sir Enjoy Watching Bleed🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏💙✋

[@chrisperry7538]

What is the value of UN treaty that would provide greater value to the US Navy and the USA? I am seeing a UN command structure to authorize action based upon the treaty, when we can already engage hostile vessels on the high seas. We had similar issues during the war on drugs in boarding stateless vessels who were pushing to make Mexican waters while we were trying to get the vessel declared “stateless” so we could board.

[@rangerider4288]

_aaarg!_ They "walk the Plank" ....me Hardys!

[@ANIMOUS8]

What about UNCLOS part XI? this seems to go beyond piracy and into how states can mine the ocean. Perhaps if they move that part to a different treat the the US would sign unclos. Can you expand on specifically why the US should not be concerned with part XI?

[@wgowshipping]

Part XI deals with ocean floor mining beyond a nation's exclusive economic zone; so basically in international waters.

[@FirstDagger]

Sal can you check your audio setup, there is a strange resonance in the background.

[@drandrewallan]

Does the destroyer still have a yardarm if so they should use it!

[@brianolson1158]

They should walk the plank , it slowed it down from happening in the early days

[@queenslander7756]

I think this particular piracy could be classified as terrorism because of its political connotations. Walking the plank would be too kind!!!

[@mill2712]

Here's my view on it. While not all terrorists are pirates, all pirates are terrorists.

[@queenslander7756]

@@mill2712 👍🏼

[@illogicerr3769]

Does the USN not have a yardarm to hoist them on?

[@jamesemullican]

The Naval Act of 1794 established the US Navy with the expressed purpose of combating piracy. Signing another treaty that says the same thing is unnecessary.

[@geezzzwdf]

what about those who answer distress calls or maydays ? are they still concidered pirots?

[@benik3297]

12:20 Let me get this clear, the ship was violating Yemeni territorial waters and when challenged continued anyway with US militairy assistance?

[@wgowshipping]

No. The ship was challenged by Yemen and told to divert into their waters from international waters.

[@benik3297]

@@wgowshipping Ah thanks for explaining

[@CLipka2373]

Anyone else seen the thumbnail and instantly started humming in their mind "What shall we do with a captured pirate?" to the tune of the most iconic of all sea shanties?

[@davidmurphy563]

Walk the plank obviously

[@mikegallegos7]

yard arm suspension comes to mind ...

[@Texas240]

Why was "walk the plank" (meant seriously) not in the top comments?!

[@jonathanwest6564]

I keep thinking of the song and its many verses. "What do you do with a drunken sailor?"

[@glennchartrand5411]

The issue with the treaty is that in American law a ratified treaty supercedes the Constitution. This is so the United States could accept terms of surrender if we lost a major war and our opponent made demands that violated the rights of Americans. While countries like China can sign a treaty and then ignore it at will , we can't. So America is very reluctant to sign any treaty it doesn't absolutely have to.

[@TheGweilo701]

MAKE EM WALK THE PLANK!

[@breft3416]

Could pirates and privateers be keel-hauled on capture? It worked, albeit briefly, for Captain Bly.

[@danjohnston9037]

As Privateers were independent contractors issued a hunting license, I think these guys are more accurately Hired Mercenaries, employed directly by... ?

[@mathewritchie]

I think that absent a lettre of marque and reprisal claiming to be a privateer is a way of admitting to piracy and a lettre of marque is only valid in a declared state of war and from a recognized state so some of these defences would not pas muster.

[@chriscolley2229]

Kudos

[@duran9664]

No one explains modern day piracy better than Cartman of South Park 😏

[@lexmcguire8362]

Pirates should be treated as they were centuries ago.

[@peterhagen7258]

@wgowshipping ; CLOREGS - require vessels to provide what assistance they are able in response to a MAYDAY. Does that include removing pirates or privateers?

[@Surge_LaChance]

Totally piratical dude! 😎🤙

[@ynptrip]

Modern warships still have a yardarm and a rope locker, don't they? Failing that, pull into the nearest port with a Home Depot and send a carpenters mate ashore to purchase one 2X12.

[@christofish96]

Guy with the channel “Legal Vices” is an American maritime lawyer in South Korea. Might have expertise on this subject.

[@karohe]

Was it piracy when the US ceased Iranian ships?

[@GaryBall-vb2jk]

These laws are on the books and should be enforced.

[@lukzombi8413]

1:20 this sounds odd, but actually acts of aircraft piracy is real thing, and famous example (at least in middle-eastern Europe) was abduction of Rynair Sun plane by Alexander Lukashenka (president of Belarus) regime in may 2021. Ryanair Flight 4978 was an Boeing 737 on route from Athenes to Vilnus. When the plane was in Bielarussian air space pilots recieved information about bomb on board, and the plane was forced to land on nearest airfield near Minsk in bielorussian Mig's-29 "escort". In fact there was no bomb, and the plane was indirectly hijacked by bielorussian regime, only to arrest bielorussian journalist and oposition activist Roman Protashevich, who was on passenger list.

[@leewahler3058]

So are attacks directed by non state entities considered piracy or privateering?

[@Kalikus808]

Send 'em to Davey Jones' Locker. Easy and cheap and discourages other pirates. Also, the US hasn't ratified the clause because they don't need to. The UN is not the US, and the US doesn't need the UN to tell them what to do when there are already MORE stringent laws in place in the US. Not only does the US not need to ratify it, they legally can't without changing their own laws, which are clearly more developed and focused on self-interest than common-interest.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

You realize even folks in Guantanamo have a right to legal counsel and due process?

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

@@WALTERBROADDUS Youre the reason issues like this keep happening

[@Kalikus808]

@@WALTERBROADDUS yes, and?

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@Kalikus808 Oh there's a little thing called human rights , due process, right to appeal, etcetera. You just can't go around hanging people because they steal your horse anymore.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@pickeljarsforhillary102 No.... the real World is not A KZbin viewer's revenge fantasy.

[@gshingles]

How did it come about that Somalian piracy came to an end? Can't the same be applied to this region?

[@kmech3rd]

Surely we still have yard arms...