US Submarine Sinks 4 Japanese Destroyers - The Remarkable USS Harder

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25 күн бұрын

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In the middle of 1944, one American submarine mounted a series of daring attacks on Japanese destroyers. Refusing to back down against their traditional nemesis, the sub fought a series of remarkable battles showing skill and resolve which lived up to its motto: Hit ‘em Harder.
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Michael Sturma, Death at a Distance: The Loss of the Legendary USS Harder
Charles Lockwood & Christian Adamson, Through Hell And Deep Water
Clay Blair, Silent Victory: The US Submarine War Against Japan
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@historigraph
@historigraph 24 күн бұрын
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@stevensulak2387
@stevensulak2387 9 күн бұрын
KISS my A$$
@stevensulak2387
@stevensulak2387 9 күн бұрын
SORRY RETRACK COMMENT IT WAS MENT FOR HARRIS
@stevensulak2387
@stevensulak2387 9 күн бұрын
SORRY IT WAS MENT FOR HARRIS
@Arutima
@Arutima 23 күн бұрын
This video was surely made because of the recent discovery of USS Harder, in eternal patrol off the coast of Luzon.
@historigraph
@historigraph 23 күн бұрын
Yes I started it a couple of days after the news - there's your example of how long our production cycle is!
@bpapao
@bpapao 23 күн бұрын
@@historigraph kudos for your effort! thank you
@stillcantbesilencedevennow
@stillcantbesilencedevennow 23 күн бұрын
RIP. They're on patrol for Cthulu now.
@daniellucas1494
@daniellucas1494 22 күн бұрын
And rightly so - those brave men lie there to this day - it is for us to remember the sacrifice they made to give us the freedoms we have today. Rest well Harder for you shall remain forever on patrol!
@mlg_grandad
@mlg_grandad 23 күн бұрын
Japanese destroyers: everything is too easy, we should fight something harder Something Harder:
@atack1212
@atack1212 23 күн бұрын
"just because you are built to counter me, does not mean you can counter me"
@USS_Archerfish
@USS_Archerfish 23 күн бұрын
Lamo
@jacobcave1587
@jacobcave1587 23 күн бұрын
😂
@Rhi25
@Rhi25 23 күн бұрын
Very clever.
@ongxuwei
@ongxuwei 23 күн бұрын
Japanese Commanders after seeing CMDR Harder : SHIT GO BACK
@HeFromNorwayz
@HeFromNorwayz 23 күн бұрын
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
@dogcarman
@dogcarman 23 күн бұрын
The 5 mission limit was probably reasonable in light of what happened to the USS Harder.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 23 күн бұрын
For soldiers its called the veterans bias. When youve survived 10 battles you biastly think youll survive the 11. even tho your ords are exactly the same as before.
@faatihh1130
@faatihh1130 23 күн бұрын
Those who survive a long time on the battlefield start to think they're invincible. I bet you do, too, Buddy.
@TheRandomGuy414
@TheRandomGuy414 23 күн бұрын
The ancestor grimly smiles
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 23 күн бұрын
@@dogcarman IIRC, it used to be a 4 mission limit. With the idea that skippers would either be too timid or too reckless to run a submraine by that point. I guess after Eugene Fluckey sank a train on his 5th Patrol, that rule was relaxed.
@CapricornEGO
@CapricornEGO 23 күн бұрын
When a man says things like "I have to do this" without any concrete reason you know a death flag was raised sky high.
@Rhi25
@Rhi25 23 күн бұрын
@@CapricornEGO It's kinda ominously equivalent to "The abyss calls to me." As if Lady Sea is calling Dealey to her cold dark embrace, like a Siren's singing with her dreaded enchanting song of peril. The Command should have taken this pattern seriously and prohibited them from going to another sortie sternly. Pushing your luck too much will end in trouble, and that of the crew were already exhausted to the point that even Dealey has become numb to the dangers of recklessness, that he overlooked his responsibility to his brothers-in-arms to return in one piece.
@CapricornEGO
@CapricornEGO 23 күн бұрын
@@Rhi25 "You aren't leading your men to victory, you are leading them home."
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 22 күн бұрын
Yea those type of lines are usually res flags mental health wise. Usually some sort of survivor's guilt or the like. But I don't know much about his service record prior nor his personal relationships
@DirkusTurkess
@DirkusTurkess 21 күн бұрын
I believe that's called foreshadowing, to bad things.
@joshglenn2115
@joshglenn2115 19 күн бұрын
My Grandfather was the Radio and Sonar Operator on the Harder for it's first five patrols. He was supposed to go on the sixth but switched his leave with another sailor. My mom, aunt, two cousins, myself and my daughter wouldn't be here today if he hadn't. He spoke very highly of Dealy but also noted he was very aggressive with his tactics. His stories about the depth charge attacks were very eye opening. He served 20 years on subs but the Harder was the only one he spoke much about. I wish he would have lived long enough to hear the news about it being found.
@anthonybelmonte9021
@anthonybelmonte9021 23 күн бұрын
Christie should have overruled Dealey. Christie knew that with these stunning successes it was only a matter of time until luck ran out. Overconfidence is a silent killer, with ignornance taking front seat. As mentioned, Dealey was becoming too careless with Japanese Anti-submarine tactics. It only requires 1 mistake before its too late. Its unfortunate cause had Dealey taken the advice, he and his crew would have likely survived the war. RIP to Harder and her crew.
@Mika-ph6ku
@Mika-ph6ku 21 күн бұрын
The fact that he attempted a torpedo run on a sub-chaser definitely proves that point.
@Mcbignuts
@Mcbignuts 9 күн бұрын
Hindsight , dealey was at the top of his game, Christie just sounded like a hater
@sciencetube4574
@sciencetube4574 23 күн бұрын
It seems that the Wild Weasels are not the first instance of the Americans deciding that when the enemy comes up with a counter to a unit of a specific type, that unit should just try harder.
@turkey7269
@turkey7269 23 күн бұрын
Wake up babe, new Historigraph video
@user-uw8bm1jv8k
@user-uw8bm1jv8k 23 күн бұрын
Walked through the WWII sub SS Torsk, on display in Baltimore, an updated Gato-class submarine. How anyone crammed themselves into that thing, and fought a war, is unimaginable.
@kerberos623
@kerberos623 23 күн бұрын
In Swedish Torsk is the fish called cod.
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 23 күн бұрын
The US Navy probably named it as such because there's a sub named Cod (which you can visit in Cleveland, Ohio).
@Jacks_Bad_Ideas
@Jacks_Bad_Ideas 22 күн бұрын
I went to the USS Silversides in Muskegon, I hit my head several times and was not trying to fight, it must have been awful
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 22 күн бұрын
@@Jacks_Bad_Ideas well, it takes a certain kind of men who volunteer (then and now) for subs. One major requirement is that they are not claustrophobic, another is they must possess physical and psychological fortitude to withstand 50 to 60 day patrols in these subs.
@tundranomad
@tundranomad 22 күн бұрын
Probably 40 years ago I went on the Torsk with my family on a trip to Baltimore. I very much agree with you!
@rachitkumar1012
@rachitkumar1012 23 күн бұрын
Last time I was this early USN torpedoes were still not working
@MrScientifictutor
@MrScientifictutor 23 күн бұрын
Really 1942 vs 1944 are like completely different wars to a submariner
@jessicaregina1956
@jessicaregina1956 22 күн бұрын
Usn torpedoes work?
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 22 күн бұрын
@@jessicaregina1956 in 1944, the Mk 14 torpedo's contact exploders were improved significantly, thanks to the work spearheaded by Admiral Charles Lockwood et al in 1943 (He received the Legion of Merit for this work). And by this time, the Mk 18, that American "Chinese copy" of the German G4e electric torp, is introduced in service.
@ISAF_Ace
@ISAF_Ace 23 күн бұрын
The admiral shouldn’t have let them go out again. The boat had already taken a lot of punishment, and the captain had already done all his patrols. It was the needless endangerment of a crew, and they paid the price for it.
@theMoerster
@theMoerster 23 күн бұрын
And his XO had said the Capt was showing strain and was downplaying enemy anti-sub capabilities. A dangerous combo.
@patrickrutherford6882
@patrickrutherford6882 22 күн бұрын
And, there was a war going on….
@keithsimpson2150
@keithsimpson2150 21 күн бұрын
You're deluded if you think command really cared about their lives it was all just about the total resources expended versus destroyed
@ISAF_Ace
@ISAF_Ace 21 күн бұрын
@@keithsimpson2150 I can’t talk on the behalf of the US, but British generals certainly did. The country was devastated by the First World War, and had to savour every fighting soldier it could, because getting replacements was very difficult. It was often detrimental to Imperial command, as many British generals (most famously Auchinleck) failed to launch counterattacks or offensives which led to the defeats further down the line (read North African campaign). The UK armed forces were also adherent to the doctrine of ‘steel not flesh’, meaning to conserve all available manpower and instead use their enormous industrial capacity to win. I can’t speak on behalf of the US in WW2 though. For all I know you could be right, this is an American sub we’re talking about here.
@kon8459
@kon8459 21 күн бұрын
The admiral misplaced his trust on the Captain's skill over protocol.
@rackstraw
@rackstraw 23 күн бұрын
Sam Dealey: "Come at me, bro."
@Jabarri74
@Jabarri74 22 күн бұрын
There was a quest in wow where a monkey shouts "come at me Brokkers". It means the same and I like the monkey version more. But yeah that was my 1st though too
@saturnv2419
@saturnv2419 23 күн бұрын
The perfect example of no matter how skilled you are, everyone eventually makes mistakes.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 23 күн бұрын
Amazing what fully functional torpedoes can do. Those first two or more years for the USN subs had to have been frustrating and awful.....and angry.
@user-lf6hm5cz9k
@user-lf6hm5cz9k 22 күн бұрын
And torpedo planes. Emmerich’s Midway shows how disappointing and dangerous they were for low and slow torpedo bombers.
@richardletaw4068
@richardletaw4068 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for this narrative, of which I was previously unaware. I am PARTICULARLY grateful to know that the wreck had been discovered just this year (2024). Thank you.
@thejudge-kv2jk
@thejudge-kv2jk 23 күн бұрын
Unbelievably risky. Not sure the crew would have appreciated the Captains quest for destroyers.
@Beecher_Dikov
@Beecher_Dikov 22 күн бұрын
I'd bet they were 100% with him...
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 20 күн бұрын
@@Beecher_Dikov You could not be a submarine skipper without full trust to your captain, submarine duty is insanity in itself already
@DomWeasel
@DomWeasel 20 күн бұрын
@@Beecher_Dikov People say that, but I think if you were to ask them, or the men of Varus' legions or Custer's 7th Cavalry; they'd have some colourful words to describe their commander's overconfidence.
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 16 күн бұрын
@@DomWeaselif the fragging wouldn’t have also crippled their submarine I doubt it wouldn’t have been seriously considered
@ASB117
@ASB117 22 күн бұрын
Dealey really should have been promoted ashore. You could see Harders loss coming as soon as they left Freemantle
@maxhill7065
@maxhill7065 21 күн бұрын
First destroyer: These idiots aren't diving Second, third, and fourth destroyers: Oh fuck, they're not diving
@Wyomingchief
@Wyomingchief 23 күн бұрын
I've always been absolutely fascinated with the war in the Pacific, mainly because my grandfather served their along with one of his brothers. His other brother served in the European theater. And I've read many books about the submarine fleet, and Admiral Christie was criticized for the fact that he let him go on that last patrol. I believe after that it was actually put into the regulations that no Captain was allowed to make more than four War Patrols. Because by that point in the war they were getting enough experience captains there was no need to risk guys so many times.
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 23 күн бұрын
After that rule, the only exception was Eugene Fluckey's "graduation" fifth patrol, which is more like a test run for new technology and tactics.
@TeardropSidemarker
@TeardropSidemarker 22 күн бұрын
USS England: _”Okay, let’s roll these dice.”_
@bobw222
@bobw222 23 күн бұрын
The first destroyer kill sounds like the basis of the movie "Run Silent, Run Deep."
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt 8 күн бұрын
I loved watching that movie with my dad growing up! Whenever my mom and sister would go on a girl scout trip that would take them somewhere overnight, dad and I would watch Run Silent, Run Deep! I was probably the only kid who grew up in the early 90s that had Run Silent, Run Deep in his top 5 favorite movies!
@TS-ef2gv
@TS-ef2gv 2 күн бұрын
Obviously RSRD borrowed heavily (but not entirely) from the Harder's exploits for the movie's plot. Not only the repeated "torpedoes down a charging destroyer's throat" aspect, but also the friction between the CO and XO, who suspected the CO was cracking up and unnecessarily risking the lives of his crew. The movie's plot took a different turn than the Harder's real life story, however.
@Kurtownia
@Kurtownia 23 күн бұрын
Should've been called The Destroyer Destroyer
@rlife7853
@rlife7853 23 күн бұрын
The destroyer²
@sullid413
@sullid413 23 күн бұрын
Great tribute to the Harder and its crew.
@soupsoup7831
@soupsoup7831 22 күн бұрын
It is important to remember that there were other men on that ship beside Dealey who lost their lives. Here are their names: William Gordon Zander Buford John Young, Sr. Leonard Maurice White John T. Swagerty Nelson Spice Lloyd Hammond Sommerschield Walker Neal Snyder Austin Smith Vernard Leslie Sloggett Melvin Schwartz Donald John Simon Francis Xavier Scheibelhut Philip Thomas Sampson Robert Barnwell Roosevelt Mervin M. Rogers Max Myrval Rogers Robert Peter Przybilla Ralph Edson Pratt Richard Semple Pick Elroy Rufus Peck Freeman Paquet, Jr. Larry Anzo Opisso Thomas Daggett Ogilvie, II John William Snipes, Jr. Myles Harlan Murray Roy Benjamin Moss Arthur Bernard Morgan Robert Moore Otto Junior Moore Charles Allen Moffett, Jr. Robert Ray Mills Chester Miller Benjamin Ralph Medley Gordan Keith McWilliams Frank Bartlett McGrevy Ralph Erskine Manning Frank Paul Majuri, Jr. Harvey Austin Lynn, Jr. John Peyton Lonas Samuel Moore Logan Angelo LoCascio Sylvester Benjamin Lilley George Bernard Levin Henry Wilfred Lawson Joseph Melvin Lane George William Lakey James Hubbell Kellogg Roland Wilbur Keckler Roy Edward Jones Daniel Richard James Vard William Hutcherson Earl Verner Hood Hiram Delbert Hatfield Walter Orville Haloupek Daniel John Gully Joseph Lewis Glueckert Robert Lee Gifford Charles Raymond Altherr Robert Orville Baber Walter Francis Beutelspacher Robert Aloyious Blum Wayne Allen Brostrom Sumter Bourg Thomas Wooldridge Buckner Calvin Arthur Bull Vivian Jewell Cash Roland Raymond Chenard Wilbur Lee Clark John Chester Conley Harold Frederick Crask James Edward Cromwell George Eugene Fisher, Jr. Carl Edwin Finney James McKinley Edgar William Vernon Diamond Edwin Warren De Voe Vincent Louis Dallessandro Donald Bernard Dahlheimer
@RespectMyAuthoritaah
@RespectMyAuthoritaah 14 күн бұрын
Thank you. It's not just the Captain operating that boat. It requires a lot of skilled men who are mission driven, just like the Captain.
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg 23 күн бұрын
Sad. The rear admiral should have insisted on the crew taking time off. Battle fatigue destroys judgement.
@CruelandCold
@CruelandCold 23 күн бұрын
Phenomenal video as always, thank you!
@redshirt5126
@redshirt5126 23 күн бұрын
Japanese Destroyers: exist USS Harder: "I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me!"
@b3jamin21
@b3jamin21 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. A relative of mine, last name of Keckler, was an electricians mate on the Harder. I saw the memorial to the crew at Pearl Harbor a couple of years ago. So glad the sub was found and final respects could be paid. What an amazing crew. Keep up the great work with your videos!
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 21 күн бұрын
"hittem' harder" so cool
@davesnothere.
@davesnothere. 22 күн бұрын
Nice video! Well timed and informative!
@zammie01
@zammie01 21 күн бұрын
Wonderful commentary, thank you.
@MousePADDING
@MousePADDING 23 күн бұрын
Always a good day when Historigraph video drops.
@ProWhitaker
@ProWhitaker 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 23 күн бұрын
Incredible!
@moonface978
@moonface978 23 күн бұрын
The older I get the more sensitive I become to the casualties of war , the statement of “ with no survivors “ instantly brings images of young children with no father coming home , that being said the Japanese did terrible things during the war , so I suppose you reap what you sow
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 22 күн бұрын
The older I get the less I care. The further away you live from me or if you're not family I'm not going to even send up a prayer. "This just in, 10,000 people in northern England died from an asteroid impact." Me, "Glad it didn't hit where I or my family lives."
@alexandruhagi
@alexandruhagi 10 күн бұрын
I love your content! Thanks from Romania!
@user-gt7qw8xt1q
@user-gt7qw8xt1q 21 күн бұрын
Thanks so much!!!
@Hugh_janus12
@Hugh_janus12 22 күн бұрын
I like your videos because there very very detailed thank you for putting in all of that work
@Roboute-Guilliman
@Roboute-Guilliman 23 күн бұрын
Another WW2 banger
@ChrisbyFlanker
@ChrisbyFlanker 22 күн бұрын
I did something similar to this in the Silent Hunter games, never knew that this actually was considered by real captains
@Mika-ph6ku
@Mika-ph6ku 21 күн бұрын
was my go to strategy in U-boat.
@cathalmurphy4584
@cathalmurphy4584 22 күн бұрын
Great video
@canadianrobloxian74
@canadianrobloxian74 23 күн бұрын
Japan: too easy we need a challenge The US:
@CountCristo
@CountCristo 23 күн бұрын
Great story told in a moving way as usual
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 23 күн бұрын
As I understand it commanders were repalced every 4th partol, because the idea was that they would either get _too timid_ or _too reckless_ to command. This was definitely the latter. 2:40 Turning away was a deadly mistake. Taking the salvo head-on gives the best survival chance. Pointing right into the salvo minimizes the surface area torpedoes can hit. And the bow isn't exactly the most critical part. Even if the torpedo get's close, I doubt the fuse would detonate if it started scraping along the hull. But staying on course was probably insanely hard from a psychological point of view. 4:15 The chance to hit was still bad. Ships - especially destroyers - don't have a wide profile from the front. 4:50 They got it right. A careful manevuer that avoided ramming their bow into Nr. 2. Without driving their aft into 3-6. 9:47 That is why you stay on course. The best chance that the entire salvo will just miss. Admittedly, in that animation he barely gave the enemy _time_ to dodge. And if the enemy does not maneuver, you have no real chance of hitting.
@Bob-The-cat1
@Bob-The-cat1 23 күн бұрын
The goat upload another vid
@CelestialCelery
@CelestialCelery 23 күн бұрын
lovely, new video
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic 23 күн бұрын
Welcome back. 🎉
@GreyWolfLeaderTW
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 23 күн бұрын
Having learned about the submarine war against the Japanese in WWII and how incompetently the Japanese handled that crucial aspect of the war (never developing either the techniques or technologies the US and British developed to handle the German Wolf Pack), one can pretty accurately say the outcome of the Pacific Theater was predestined by the fact that the US had a large and powerful submarine fleet that could interdict and sink the near entirety of the Japanese merchant fleet, starving it of the resources the Japanese Islands themselves lacked and would be needed to fuel, arm, and run the Japanese Navy and Army.
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 20 күн бұрын
The IJN simply didnt have enough ships to cover everything. Theres a reason why the IJN preferred the Kantai Kessen - the Decisive Battle doctrine because they know they cant hold everything. Also despite the obsessiveness of the IJN over planning, they just somehow didnt anticipate the sheer amount of coverage you need to fully transport everything that they dont have enough cargo ships. So now the IJN found itself needing more destroyers and more cargo ships - but it simply cant keep up. It wouldnt have been bad if they had secured a peace deal not too long afterwards but they didnt. The IJN simply didnt think they would be fighting up to the point where new technologies and strategies would be crucial.
@MFenix206
@MFenix206 9 күн бұрын
if US torpedoes had actually worked more than 10% of the time for the first two years of the war, it would have probably lasted half the time.
@larryl43
@larryl43 16 күн бұрын
Thank you
@tcsmagicbox
@tcsmagicbox 21 күн бұрын
Amazing story!
@natheriver8910
@natheriver8910 22 күн бұрын
Very interesting
@amptechron
@amptechron 23 күн бұрын
This captain had balls!
@bobsylvester88
@bobsylvester88 6 күн бұрын
If you read between the lines of the decision to give Deally an against protocol sixth mission commanding Harder, you see a power struggle with the Captain and the First Officer, who should rightfully take command. The First Officer basically throws him under the bus, but Deally manages to get the get the ship and tactical command of two others.
@maxiegrobner9018
@maxiegrobner9018 22 күн бұрын
Hubris, then no one goes home.
@shadowwarriorshockwave3281
@shadowwarriorshockwave3281 23 күн бұрын
The War under the pacific is a wonderful book that give access to a lot of the surface level information on many interesting patrols by US submariners I highly recommend this to anyone who wants more stories
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 22 күн бұрын
@@shadowwarriorshockwave3281 another excellent work is Clay Blair's definitive history of the submarine war in the Pacific, "Silent Victory".
@johnzgamez810
@johnzgamez810 23 күн бұрын
Small issue I noticed: With LT Commander Lynch's Insignia, you gave him one that's a Commander's (Silver Oakleaf) when it should be a LT Comm's (Bronze Oakleaf). Other than that VERY minor issue, wonderful video, very well done.
@jean-lucesterhuizen8279
@jean-lucesterhuizen8279 23 күн бұрын
History KZbinr: They all DIED. History KZbinr: ... History KZbinr: Anyway PLAY THIS GAME!
@ces4399
@ces4399 13 күн бұрын
Both Admiral Lockwood and Cdr Dealey had ships named after them: FF-1064 and DE-1006, respectively.
@theboss684684
@theboss684684 19 күн бұрын
I wonder how the rest of the crew felt about doing these extremely risky scenarios that the captain was putting them in.
@BrickDaniels-qu7bz
@BrickDaniels-qu7bz 21 күн бұрын
That 6:00 animation is crisp.
@joechang8696
@joechang8696 23 күн бұрын
was Harder the first to adopt the tactic of charging the destroyer? The Mk 14 high speed is 46 kt. A destroyer is rated for 35kt+ but may be 30 kt with barnacles on hull + some plug boiler tubes. So, a closing speed of 75kt. 3min rule is 100yd per kt, so 7500 yd per 3min, or 2500 yd in min and 800 yd in 20sec. Would be nice to know what the spread angles were. Early in the war, Japan did not set their depth charges correctly. This was told to a reported, who published it. The Japanese got the paper, and passed it on
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila 22 күн бұрын
@@joechang8696 the culprit to that depth charge fiasco is IIRC, a boastful Republican congressman (if it is, go figure).
@s.porter8646
@s.porter8646 21 күн бұрын
HARDER/DARTER/PARCHE/TROUT, never in, always out
@bengoolie5197
@bengoolie5197 21 күн бұрын
The old semi-documentary television series THE SILENT SERVICE features the Harder in one of its episodes. It was a good tv series.
@MakeMeThinkAgain
@MakeMeThinkAgain 23 күн бұрын
There's a little bit more to the change in tactics regarding destroyer attacks. American intelligence had discovered that -- unlike the Americans and British -- the IJN did not have a large program to build more destroyers or tankers. Japan never really got over the idea that it would be a short war. The USN then realized that sinking these 2 ship types would be particularly damaging to the Japanese war effort as there were no replacement ships in the pipeline. The results were devastating.
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 22 күн бұрын
It's not that Japan didn't think it would be a long war. They simply understood they stood no chance in a long war. And so there is no reason to sacrifice resources and plans that will hopefully bring victory early for a defeat that happens farther in the future. And as far as destroyers go, Japan knew they needed them. Pretty much all battleships and even some cruisers were halted except for some at very late stage construction. This was in favor of more destroyers and carriers which even as early as 1941, Japan acknowledged they needed more of. Akizuki and Matsu classes for example are war time production and we're fairly numerous in addition to the continued production of pre-war Kagero designs under the Yugumo-class designation. Japan however wasn't willing to sacrifice qualitative features in favor of quantity until the Matsu and Kaibokans late war. The US thoroughly embraced the destroyer escorts early on but also enjoyed a much larger industrial base. Even without DDEs and CVEs, US still out produced Japanese DDs and Kaibokans combined with just DDs alone. The entire Fletcher class was the size of the Japanese DD fleet.
@jackbailey9714
@jackbailey9714 23 күн бұрын
Have you done one on the engagement between the USN Taffy 3 and the Japanese Center Force during the Battle of Leyte?
@RailsOfTheSouthProductions
@RailsOfTheSouthProductions 14 күн бұрын
Looking at the pic…. It looks like the aft of the submarine is completely missing…. I recall in Eugene Fluckys book “Thunder Below” that he suspected that maybe the sub was lost after a circular run torpedo rather than the result of a failed “down the throat shot” that Harder had by then become known for. Wonder if that is what in fact sunk her, sending her men onto internal patrol.
@scottpecora371
@scottpecora371 11 күн бұрын
Reviewing the exploits of the USN Harder and the sinking of 9 destroyers, its ultimate demise was quite predictable, and any blame lies at the feet of Admiral Christy. There was a good reason that captains were rotated to desk duty after 5 missions. All those reasons were being exhibited by Commander Dealy. They don't mention how man depth charging attacks the Harder had undergone, but they mention two that were so severe that crew didn't think the vessel would remain intact. Sinking 9 destroyers in that short of time undoubtedly would lead to a false sense of security, invincibility, and with each successful attack an increase in high-risk behaviors. ADM Christy should have never allowed Commander Deal to command another rotation at sea. The signs of battle fatigue and the stress of daily command had obviously taken their toll on Cdm Dealy. Had Commander Dealy been rotated to shore time, he could have been assigned to the advanced submarine school for commanders where his knowledge and exploits could have been passed onto a new generation of sub commanders. Any of the crewmembers on their 5th rotation should have also been rotated shore side and used at the submarine schools. Instead, all lives were lost along with all there knowledge!
@josephmarino3045
@josephmarino3045 5 күн бұрын
Kind of reminds me of the movie Rin silent run deep
@michaelusswisconsin6002
@michaelusswisconsin6002 23 күн бұрын
Rest in peace Harder
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 11 күн бұрын
Of course it helped that American subs finally had good torpedos that werent duds.
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 23 күн бұрын
Submarine duty was one of the most dangerous duties you can do for anyone in WWII. There's many examples of great accomplishments by them from for example the Kriegsmarine and US Navy. But they also had in common high losses. Also, the biggest killer of Japanese Destroyers in WWII were not from surface action, land or carrier based air power. Submarines inflicted the most losses, which was a surprise to me.
@the1magageneral323
@the1magageneral323 23 күн бұрын
The Silent Service tv show did a great episode on the USS Harder.
@takashitamagawa5881
@takashitamagawa5881 21 күн бұрын
The Japanese navy was chronically short of destroyers, literally from day 1 of the war with the US with the attack on Pearl Harbor. The carrier attack force had but nine destroyers escorting the six most valuable ships in the fleet - the six fleet carriers - that launched the air attack. Never enough destroyers to put into their fleet formations, let alone perform escort duty for merchant shipping. The specific targeting of Japanese destroyers by HARDER had an outsize effect on the Japanese Navy's ability to fight its battles with the US Navy as well as maintain its lines of transport within its empire.
@umadbra
@umadbra 22 күн бұрын
It fought harder than others.
@RoboticDragon
@RoboticDragon 19 күн бұрын
So, only captains get rotated out? Not the whole crew? I would assume its incredibly stressful for everybody on the boat.
@Comm0ut
@Comm0ut 19 күн бұрын
The crew do not make the critical strategic choices nor see much or anything outside their work areas.
@DangerZoneGamingYT
@DangerZoneGamingYT 20 күн бұрын
Damn that picture3D looks like they really had bad time I think the crew heard the depth change touch the submarine and knew they were doomed I hope we see the inside
@frank26080115
@frank26080115 23 күн бұрын
how do you even compute a firing solution for a head-on aspect shot?
@LancasterResponding
@LancasterResponding 23 күн бұрын
I don’t know how I would feel being part of Dealey’s crew. Like I’d be proud of all the badass shit but at the same time I’d be like this guy is completely insane.
@PaladinCasdin
@PaladinCasdin 23 күн бұрын
Probably about the same as the crew of USS Johnston would have felt as they defended Taffy 3 honestly. Or anyone who flew with Dick Best at Midway. It was always the insane ones who turned the tide at the end of the day.
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 22 күн бұрын
​@@PaladinCasdinWell, plenty of insane ones just died. It's the few that survive and since they took the risk, they reap the rewards. You can't win if you don't play. But when the majority of those that play loses, you got to ask if it really was worth it.
@jonpato
@jonpato 23 күн бұрын
Someone missed a golden opportunity to call Captain Dealy "the destroyer destroyer".
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies 20 күн бұрын
King’s ban on fish usage was silly,as you should trust your subordinates on such usage.
@TheJuggtron
@TheJuggtron 21 күн бұрын
Doom music intensifies
@diqweed69
@diqweed69 23 күн бұрын
Submarine Destroyer, meet Submarine Destroyer Destroyer Submarine
@bsmartr806
@bsmartr806 21 күн бұрын
Dealey: Rock Japanese: Paper Dealey: I win
@judykimnguyen8393
@judykimnguyen8393 22 күн бұрын
“When the hunters became the hunted”
@SuperCrazf
@SuperCrazf 22 күн бұрын
Amazing what WW2 American subs can do when they have actually working torpedoes
@lachbullen8014
@lachbullen8014 23 күн бұрын
Can you do a video explaining what were the anti submarine tactics of the imperial Japanese Navy..
@CountCristo
@CountCristo 23 күн бұрын
This would be extremely interesting - tricker to source in English I imagine than some topics - but really interesting
@keith6706
@keith6706 21 күн бұрын
The basic summary: "You know all the stuff the Americans, British, and Canadians have come up with to fight submarines effectively? Don't do that." Although, to be fair, they didn't have the ships to do it.
@danielstapler4315
@danielstapler4315 23 күн бұрын
A smaller boat is a hader target to hit then a larger boat.
@sjorgen1236
@sjorgen1236 23 күн бұрын
have ever considered joining nebula? I think you'll fit in really well with these high quality videos!
@drksideofthewal
@drksideofthewal 23 күн бұрын
Was this the ship that inspired Run Silent Run Deep?
@ijnfleetadmiral
@ijnfleetadmiral 20 күн бұрын
Wakatsuki was NOT an older Mutsuki class ship...she was a modern Akizuki class vessel. Also, Ikazuchi did her best, but it wasn't enough. (Obligatory DesDiv 6 KanColle reference.)
@jimmiemacd3603
@jimmiemacd3603 13 күн бұрын
Jesus what’s happening to me? I legitimately thought this was gonna be about world of warships.
@christopherhanton6611
@christopherhanton6611 23 күн бұрын
Harder is still on patrol
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 23 күн бұрын
Did the writer use this in the movie, "Run Silent, Run Deep"?
@terminator3768
@terminator3768 21 күн бұрын
Maybe daft punk was onto something "Work it harder, make it better Do it faster, makes us stronger More than ever, hour after hour Work is never over"
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 23 күн бұрын
Wow
@FatGouf
@FatGouf 23 күн бұрын
That's like a deer killing 4 mountain lions
@heirofaniu
@heirofaniu 20 күн бұрын
USS HARD 2: USS HARDER
@MansonMamaril
@MansonMamaril 23 күн бұрын
I wish for a day theses animations will be made in Unreal Engine... :D
@boardmike82
@boardmike82 22 күн бұрын
1 kill away from a kraken.
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