USA Pickleball has banned the Gen. 3 Joola Paddles!

Breaking the news that your hard earned money has been spent in vein! USA Pickleballs Statement about banning the Gen 3 Joola’s, ALL of them. #pickleball #podcast #pickleballdoubles #pickleballislife #ppatour #apptour #ytfeed #paddlereview #joola

[@sad5331]

Why is no one talking about the fact that Joola submitted a product for testing and approval that was different than the product they sold to consumers?

[@ThePicklePulse]

I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt, and believe that this was a mistake. This isn’t good business though!

[@thisisntmyname2978]

It’s a list of like 16 or 17 different paddles. Yeeeeeah right. How exactly do you submit that many “wrong” paddles to the governing body? 🙈🙉🙊

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

They didn’t. It’s the same paddle, they just didn’t have the gen 3 branding yet, the colored edge guard etc. The Alphas that they sent in are functionally identical to the gen 3s, just without branding because they didn’t want to spoil it before release.

[@killahboutdooradventures]

@@douglasmurdoch7247 haha yah right

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

@@killahboutdooradventures no that’s actually what happened. They sent in Joola alphas, because USAP has some kind of “equivalence” clause. The alphas are the same paddles as the Gen 3, without the paint job. The alphas passed, and are still on the approved list.

[@groot3371]

Only tournaments abiding by the USAP regulations will ban these paddles. I heard on another UTube podcast that PPA and MLP are not banning these Joola Gen 3 paddles in their tournaments. Have you heard anything about this? I enjoyed your podcast and thank you.

[@ThePicklePulse]

The PPA and MLP have started their own governing body called the UPA, so you can still currently use your Gen. 3 paddles in PPA tournaments.

[@armandogarcia1826]

I don’t regret purchasing a GEN 3 paddle. Joola will submit additional paddles and get certified. Pickleball is going through a huge growth transformation with various tours, playing formats, product testing etc.. It will all get sorted out.

[@patrickhamning1734]

As a 5.5 tennis player, let players adapt and continue to raise their skill ceiling. Let paddle makers innovate. Let the game evolve.

[@ThePicklePulse]

As long as the rules are clear, and everyone is following them I’m all for innovation.

[@jerrywilliams8950]

This is all on Joola, looks like a bait and switch. People that don’t play in sanctioned tournaments will still buy them. I also run a local league and I may band them as well from play.

[@trumpisastump9382]

Dictator.

[@BennyDaHarley]

Who didn't see this coming?

[@Big_Ballz1983]

Me. Mainly because I lost an eye to a hot Joola drive

[@chandresquewellnessllc4555]

I think it’s consistently, and quality control ?

[@tonym753]

Thank you USA Pickleball for stepping up and doing something. I try not to play opponents using the new joola3

[@trumpisastump9382]

Fear can be very debilitating.

[@its_maxbro]

I just got a TKO-CX too. I'm seeing that it might be banned as well? RIP.

[@Marc_Us_]

Same

[@ThePicklePulse]

🤦‍♂️

[@braincancerwarrior]

Been playing with mine since it dropped . Going to be pissed if it is illegal and I can not get my $ back!

[@ThePicklePulse]

I will be too! Let’s see where this all plays out, but there could be lawsuits towards USAPA from Joola. I have to imagine it has killed their sales!

[@user-hq9sl5tq6z]

So explain Gearbox? Not the same product, but more powerful …

[@ThePicklePulse]

I’m still perplexed as to how gearbox is a legal paddle, but they do have a foam core(which is really different than Joola), and so far USAPA has no issues with them!

[@ubergoodair]

I have the Gearbox, Joola is more powerful

[@pauljohnmarcelino2121]

​@ubergoodair according to the reviewers GB Pro is more powerful. I've seen ball come at me from GB and only a few times from Joola gen 3. I'd say I get body bagged more from the GB

[@trumpisastump9382]

@@ubergoodair I have both as well and the GearBox PPE is more powerful.

[@PlanBMarketing]

Talked to a Joola dealer this morning...he said, "it's only banned for sanctioned tournaments." - Yes...and that is a lot of people who dropped $280 that can't play with their paddle....who is going to want to switch paddles for a tournament? Most no one I would image. Expect class action lawsuit if Joola doesn't refund or swap out for approved paddle. But then, if they do swap out, it isn't going to be the same paddle, so would people want it? Wow...hate to be on team Joola this morning.

[@ThePicklePulse]

It’s a literal shit show!

[@ubergoodair]

USAP is going to get sued.... Can't approved something and take it away...

[@danpodina438]

Why would USAP be sued? They approved a paddle other than what Joola is selling. Joola deceived, either intentionally or unintentionally, USAP and their customers.

[@billkennedy401]

Joola submitted the wrong paddle - if anyone was getting sued, it'd be Joola for deceptive practices. When CRBN got unapproved, they offered buyers three options.

[@ubergoodair]

@@billkennedy401 16 wrong paddles, lol.... You believe that...

[@jimzimmerman5288]

It is Yola, Not Youla.

[@ThePicklePulse]

I’m from NC, speaking elequantly doesn’t come easy to us! 😂

[@romanhernz3839]

Actually is Joola

[@bobcurtis3958]

​@@romanhernz3839He was spelling it phonetically.

[@WisdomInsightReality]

This is a terrible one sided report. I hear Joola may be filing a $45 million dollar lawsuit against the USAP. I hope so, this is long overdue!. What independent body is overseeing the USAP testing model, holding them accountable, making them more timely, more responsive to their clients? The USAP is the problem! They have no transparency, and no accountability, they're a black hole. Who is the third party tester, what is their company name, what are their qualifications, what is their track record, years in business, customer list, customer references, what scientific equipment are they using, where are their detailed, published, scientific test results for each paddle tested? The USAP collects too much money, tens of millions of dollars, to be shrouded in such secrecy. Sunlight is the best disenfectant. Pickleball is going soft with all this talk about injury, liability etc. There's a simple solution, wear protective eyewear, when compared to paddle prices, this is a simple, cheap solution. Don't dumb down pickleball more then it is. Be progressive, continue to evolve, keep an open mind, remember your viewers.

[@georgemcdonald9275]

It's amazing the amount of whining coming out of professional pickleball. I personally think you guys (Pro's) and the pickleball governing bodies are all going to ruin the game of pickleball if they continue on this path. It is a game after-all, at least it was 5 years ago until all the greed took the game over. I am in my mid 60s and have played every racket and paddle sport there is. I've coached high school and Collegiate level tennis and have been a teaching pro most of my life. I have watched the progression and advancements in technology of equipment in every sport. From my first wood racket, the Jack Kramer Autograph, to aluminum, magnesium, and now graphite. Anything with ping pong paddles, same thing with racquetball, badminton, squash etc. As far as I know none of the advancements in equipment ended any of those sports. Sure the advancements in equipment might make it more intimidating for some people to enter into a sport, but it also allowed some to jump-start that sport based on the newer technology, lowering the learning curve. Tennis is a great example. You really need to hit thousands of balls in practice to be even somewhat proficient at the game. With tennis racket technology what it is, larger sweet-spot, more power, better balance, and less vibration, it helps more people perform better from day one. Giving more people the opportunity to play and possibly continue playing the sport. Maybe this applies to you with some of the sports you attempted or play currently. Some people just can't play tennis, some people can't play racquetball, some people can't play Pickleball. Some people can't do anything athletic or anything that requires coordination. Are we supposed to dumb everything down for these people? I'm 5 ft 10, I didn't play basketball in high school. Should they have lowered the net for short people? I don't think that's the answer, and I don't remember complaining to everybody that the net was too high. Should we turn back the clock with the advancements of golf clubs and golf balls? If the same equipment is available to everybody that wants to play, I don't see a problem. If you're only worried about getting hit with the damn ball then put some freaking glasses on. I've been playing pickleball for 4 years I've never once gotten hit in the face, and I'm playing with 4.5-6.0 level current and ex-tennis players who are now playing pickleball in the prime of their life. These guys hit hard. I'm not saying getting hit in the face can't happen, but I also played competitive tennis and having played for 55 years, with all the volleys that were exchanged, I never once got hit in the head or face with a tennis ball Not sure what motivation is behind so many people that are saying this is all negative, I just don't get it. I personally think you guys (Pro's) and the pickleball governing bodies are all going to ruin the sport. There's already way too many conditions and rules with regards to pickleball. Especially when you consider these conditions and rules seem to change hour by hour. How is anyone supposed to keep up with this. You can't do this now, you can't play with that now. People at the rec level calling you out because of a suspect paddle when they have the means to go buy the same paddle. I think the (Pro's) and the pickleball governing bodies are making way too much out of this. Here are 2 possible solutions at the pro level, since that's where most of the complaining seems to be coming from. 1. Give up your paddle endorsement and play with the paddle you want to play with, or 2. why don't you all play with the exact same paddle. If you want to use edge guard, lead tape, or a grip, that's fine, but it has to be the exact same paddle. Then it comes down to pure talent. I get the feeling that some people are threatened by lesser players having an opportunity to play better and have more shots available to them. I think the paddle technology has more of a benefit for the woman's game more than the men's game, be careful what you wish for ladies. In my opinion, the pro level tends to be about money and endorsements. Who is going to determine what is enough spin, oh that's too much. Oh that's enough power, oh wait that's too much. Everybody hits the ball at a different pace and different spin. I think you guys need to be more patient and just let the sport evolve. The sport is not for everybody and the best will always rise to the top and they will always adapt, just as they have in other sports. The one paddle argument is similar to the same basketball being used throughout the NBA, everybody just adapts. They went from a 38 mm ping pong ball to a 40 mm ping pong ball merely to slow it down for television. Everybody adapted. I think changing the pickleball probably makes more sense, maybe a Nerf ball. I realize I'm ranting and I appreciate your patience but I can't figure out for the life of me why these guys are so upset. You wear shoes to protect your feet, you wear long sleeves and sunscreen to protect your skin, you wear a hat to protect your eyes from the Sun, if you feel you need to wear glasses, then wear glasses. I purchased my first Selkirk Tyson McGuffin paddle 4 years ago, since then I've gone to the Pro Kennex Black Diamond, and now I use the Tyson McGuffin gen 3 Joola. I've been able to hit much bigger spinning shots, top spin Lobs, passing shots with the spin that I should be getting out of every shot that I hit considering my skills with a tennis racket. I'm having more fun now than I've ever had playing pickleball. Several of the people in our group of 60 people feel the same way. So far no one in our group has said anything at all about somebody hitting too hard or having too much spin. We have several people now using the Gen 3 Joola, Gear Box, and other hard-hitting very gritty paddles, I haven't heard anybody complaining that there's too much spin and too much power. As I stated, we have ex-college tennis players and these guys hit hard. People just chalk it up to talent and body structure. Maybe we should require a 20 something ex-college tennis player to hit with a dead paddle and never play against lesser or older players. See how stupid that sounds. You guys can refuse to play with those paddles anytime you want, but I don't see anybody going backwards. The better you are and the better you get, you are less likely going to hit somebody in the face. The lesser players don't have the power or ability to threaten most people across the net. Maybe it's just me but, I watched a match that took place the other day and one point in particular lasted 81 shots. I personally don't care to see more than a few points in a game that lasts 81 shots. I like the faster game as a player, and as someone who watches a lot of pickleball. Most of the players I know feel the same way. Okay, now let me have it.

[@ThePicklePulse]

I think there are pros and cons to both points of view, whether you want hotter paddles or more regulation of them. The conclusion that I have come to is that we need a SOLID set of standards that ALL companies adhere to. At that point, the paddle manufacturers can safely create great paddles that everyone can play with and be on an even playing field. I think the real Villain in all of this is the Governing bodies that regulate the manufacturers. Thanks fort Listening George!

[@billkennedy401]

This only affects Tournament players - not Rec players.

[@TylerNGOakley]

at $280 USD id assume a decent % of the players that bought the paddle would be the type to enter at least a local tournament.

[@billkennedy401]

@@TylerNGOakley 280 is a small price to pay to body bag the guy that tries to body bag everyone at the Saturday morning rec play _ that's why I have my EVA foam paddle tucked in my bag 😁

[@michaeloxner2073]

Every rec player i know plays in tourneys