Use Quest Pro Controllers With Other VR Headsets!

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[@fordt9]

I remember a while ago, I tried using a lot of this same software to use my cv1 controllers with my Quest 2 to no avail. I followed this video replacing the quest pro with the cv1, and it works perfectly (apart from the controllers being unable to vibrate fast enough on some of the faster beat saber levels). The tracking is pretty much flawless and even better than the Quest 2 controllers latency-wise, as I would expect.

[@samcandles]

I would totally buy these for PCVR if there was a way to pair them normally.

[@WhyplayGaming]

This will be great for bigscreen beyond.

[@lemonamon]

this is actually super useful for me whenever i get a headset upgrade, ty

[@gordontechreviews]

Sounds fascinating! My question, how many of these steps are required each and every time you fire up the headsets?

[@TheMysticle]

Pretty much every time, you don't need to copy anything again or run CMD commands but the programs need to be launched every time. However, a lot of it can be automated. But yeah, definitely not for everyone.

[@gordontechreviews]

@@TheMysticle Well, calibration isn't quite landing for me lol but I'm a stubborn cuss so I'll figure it out. lol I'm very motivated to be able to use pro controllers with pico 4

[@CorporateZombi]

I wonder if there would be a way to 3d print a bracket that takes 3 Vive trackers to charge them and maybe the charging dock for the quest pro controllers, and because you know the fixed positions and orientation of all of them when they are on the dock you could automate the calibration. ❤

[@timnevits]

Would be great for BigScreen Beyond or Apple’s headset, assuming Virtual Desktop becomes available for it. But, I’m not going through the hassle. Hope someone figures out a more frictionless way of doing this.

[@SjaakSchulteis]

You are full of surprises and I like the ideas you have. Though you are right, its not for everybody. I won't do it. But you keep going... you have initiative. I like that.

[@Fearless13468]

I have a Reverb G2, so I'm always looking for better tracking. Sadly this process is too long for me. I don't want to make my setup time any longer than it already is. Plus my Quest 2 just hates connecting to my PC and only works 1/10 times. When a way arises to directly connect the controllers to PC I'll be all over that. Unless it also has a long setup process.

[@slaaneshgod]

I was just thinking of the reverb G2 myself. as a headset its supposed to be top notch but the controllers are terrible. I have a quest 2 with quest pro controllers and the controllers outclass the headset in every way.

[@joshuadadad5414]

Great idea man. Awesome video. I can now fantasize about apple bringing out a headset and using it with tracked controllers for PCVR!

[@supremebaconoverlord]

Wondering if someone can make drivers for the Pro controllers. This would be fun to try once or twice. Wondering if it would work with XR Elite.

[@ZedDevStuff]

They can't. They would need to have a full access to the Quest OS to analyze the way it works before doing anything

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

I wonder why meta does not sell these as universal controllers with proper drivers.

[@SkaterStimm]

They are afraid that if they do their competition will be able to benefit from their R&D. Like imagine if the Vision Pro could use the Quest Pro controllers, it would enable better games and would give a better experience.

[@PlushiiMono]

@@SkaterStimm but that's good?? they can sell controllers and make a profit, then use the oculus app to maintain PC compatibility and firmware updates on controllers. Kinda like Xbox and PSX controllers on PC.

[@spitfireGamesVR]

I’m gonna try to do this with my bigscreen beyond. What I’m wondering is after all this prep, what do we need to do every time we play?

[@sm_grayson]

*Controllers*? Nah, *conrollers* Edit: since I edited it, I lost the heart, can I have it back

[@sm_grayson]

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[@Axerol]

@@sm_grayson lmao

[@sm_grayson]

He corrected his mistake

[@xander1121]

This video was a great idea because for a while i have been wanting to get quest pro controllers, but havent because i am saving for a pc and a better headset in witch the controllers would become useless

[@IsThatJC]

I ended up using this with my HP Reverb G2. i prefer using this than the standard wmr controllers.

[@cjadams7434]

you should setup the index ones as well! - would like to see that process! - SteamVR Lighthouse tracking is its own animal - nice thing is you can use 2 USB steamVR Usb dongles instead of a headset!

[@xmoskeetox]

Reminds me of trying to disc swap imitation PlayStation 1 games back in the day. They eventually brought out a chipped PlayStation to accept the discs. Hopefully someone will do similarly the same with controllers😁👍

[@silverspirit2462]

There must be some way to use ALVR/ALXR to do this more easily. If this way works using a second headset, you could add them as an OpenXR input in some way (with some sort of adapted Quest client), like you can have separate hand tracking controllers using an UltraLeap, so it wouldn't need the indirection of the Oculus runtime (as it wouldn't be involved). You could then even add extra ones as trackers per headset and controllers you have available (crazy expensive that would be). Though it would be much better if they just offered some way to pair the controllers directly to a pc (though i dont see that happening with the death of the Rift).

[@raeldor]

I would love to be able to do this, but I seriously doubt Meta will open the controllers up that much. They make money on the software, not the hardware, and I don't think there's much money to be made in selling controller hardware only. I would love to have a crack at doing this though, but even if it was possible I think Meta would probably release a patch to block it.

[@CorporateZombi]

​@@raeldorso they should make a Quest 2 emulator for PC. Then all their Q2 software could be sold to PCVR enthusiasts.

[@jonathantate6048]

I tried following this but my Quest pro goes to sleep even when I have the proximity sensor disabled. Any tips on how to keep it awake?

[@Oscar-j7r5b]

Can I do this with cv1 controllers and sensors with a pimax (I’ll use base stations for the pimax headset)

[@Ken_1971]

I really wish this working on the HP reverb G2 too .. please dear IT experts and coders ...please someone make an executable file for easier driver integration !!!! I need this soo bad !

[@gothicplayground]

You think I’m the future you can do a how to play massiveloop to quest 2? It’s supposed to be like vrchat . I was able to play it on pc but there’s no instruction on how to play it on quest but claims to be playable on there. Either way your vids rock and always look forward to them ❤

[@The666VampireGirl]

i use a Rift S and i want the quest pro controlers. although i am planning to swap over to quest 2 once i have the money for it. or the quest 3 if it comes out around that time

[@nathanbenkhe5219]

This isnt a dumb idea if you already own the equipment needed. Thanks!

[@dalec2274]

Hello can you connect this to bigscreen beyond headset ?

[@kimmy9046]

you never mentioned the performance degredation of running 2 headsets on your pc, irrelevant i know but am really curious

[@jason002YT]

Loved this video!

[@chrisrauschebart348]

Hi, I would like to see this solution with the Rokid Max, if it work, it would be a new level of comfort while playing. Like your deep into tech videos, great job 👍

[@BaldmanB]

This would be great with Apple Vision on PC with Virtual Desktop. Can't wait.

[@Karlus_LeV]

Can you also use quest 2 or even quest 1 controllers 🤔

[@PlushiiMono]

i mean technically, yes, but since they aren't self tracking they'd lose tracking VERY fast, since the quest headset needs to be aimed at the controllers to not lose tracking to begin with. basically not worth it.

[@Merudes]

Would this actually work with the pimax crystal??? cause pimax play allows u to start steamvr with only the headset tracking and no controllers are required?

[@PlushiiMono]

i'd imagine so, but like they said you' still need a quest.

[@Male_Parent]

I wish I knew how to just make my own controllers. I'd make something incredibly light and comfortable just for beat saber if i could. The Index controllers are super nice for everything but high level Beatsaber. I can play expert+ songs on them but I've tried the quest controllers and they're so much less fatiguing especially on modded songs which are generally harder than base game songs. I feel like I can actually hit faster bursts on the Quest.

[@RavenTaleLive]

Shame it still requires a Quest, hopefully someone figures out a method of directly connecting these to a PC, would be a pretty darn good option and would make them the best priced full body trackers.

[@fckcoleslaw8533]

*Best priced sub millimeter position tracking, slimes exist

[@ColinXYZ]

Vive announced a new SLAM based tracker a few weeks ago that works with SteamVR

[@RavenTaleLive]

@@fckcoleslaw8533 Last time I've seen someone review slime it was pretty darn unreliable, nowhere near "sub millimeter", thought that was mainly due to them lacking the cameras and hardware required to do visual tracking and were just relying on basic accelerometers/Gyros that are prone to drifting.

[@fckcoleslaw8533]

@@RavenTaleLive yeah key term last time, the software has become much more advanced with a great user interface and more options to prevent drift. I use it every single time I get on VR chat for hip tracking with my phone. it’s way better than it was.

[@RavenTaleLive]

@@fckcoleslaw8533 that's good to hear!

[@Camilo316]

Will this work with the reverb g2??

[@NickHoddinott]

Been wondering if this is possible for a long time, and there we go, someone did it. Excited to try this against my Reverb G2 and eventually a Big Screen Beyond. I'm wondering if the calibration has to be run each time? I think the rest could be automated with a one click wrapper app. Thanks ... subscribed!

[@cristianc366]

Hi I just recently got an index controller and I was wondering is there any way to like extend the index battery life by turning off vibration or anything like that

[@PlushiiMono]

Yes turning off vibration can extend battery life

[@etteyabarclay4227]

So does this work everytime when you launch the pico? or do I have to launch a bunch of things first?

[@r_olawg]

What are your PC specs @The Mysticle?

[@koncaptaincaptainkon9561]

Very good video. After I bought the Pro controller, I found that the Pro controller is really easy to use. Without the cumbersome positioning base station that requires a power cord, the effect is very good and there is no positioning blind spot. However, the Quest 2 headset itself is really poor, with low resolution and FOV, and even the Quest 3 to be released at the end of the year does not seem to have much progress according to current news. I feel that the Quest 2 has limited the performance of my 4080. I have been using PC streaming to play VR games, so I am considering buying a PCVR device with much better image quality, such as Pimax. But I don't want to buy an extra set of base stations and Index controllers, the experience of the Pro controller has made me very satisfied, so I found this video and plan to practice it. I think self-tracking controllers like the Pro controller are the trend of the future. The Pro controller is much cheaper than three base stations and a pair of Index controllers, and there is room for further cost optimization. On this basis, the positioning effect is about the same, and no troublesome installation is required to keep the room tidy.

[@SkyLavend]

They should make inside out valve knuckles Finger tracking is prob most important to me

[@feather9658]

if only, but i dont think thats going to happen anytime soon sadly

[@SirevixGames]

wait, you said you can have the quest controller paired to pc and the quest tied to your hip because it needs to see them? That give's me an idea. Buy 2 quests 2 and place them in the corners in your room, as base stations to track your controllers !

[@QiVR42]

Hmm, Bigscreen Beyond or Pimax Crystal with these might be a good options for people without base stations etc.!

[@fckcoleslaw8533]

The beyond requires base stations, why not just buy knuckles if you’re going to get that headset?

[@Venoxium]

You're gonna need base stations for the Beyond period. It doesn't have any camera based tracking to position itself.

[@goteer10]

@@Venoxium Not with the new vive self tracker :D

[@fabienlelaurin7760]

@@goteer10 2 more vive tracker for the vrgloves 😀

[@Horendus123]

Can I ask, do you prefer the Quest Pro or the Pico? I recently purchased the Quest Pro and find it fantastic for PCVR but I have never used the Pico4. Am I missing out on anything?

[@joshuadadad5414]

Mysticle has previous video answering this! It's the Quest pro- mostly because it has a handy charging pad so the device is always ready to pick up and go. Seb at MRTV on the other hand prefers the visuals of the Pico4 due to the better resolution and binocular overlap. Pico 4 was probably better for PCVR for a long time but with recent advancements such as eye tracking and local dimming supported by PCVR on Pro the tables may have turned. Once wifi 6e is enabled on the Pro I suspect you will have the outright winner (albiet at a higher price) so no need for buyer's remorse.

[@Uploadvideoschannel]

just discovering this... wow.. i need the touch pro with bigscreen

[@spitfireGamesVR]

This is what I’m currently trying to do

[@theredpineapple9485]

Hey Mysticle, Virtual Desktop just got a new update that includes SGSR, Snapdragon Game Super Resolution. It’s an upscaler that runs on the headset itself, not the PC. You should check it out man :D

[@mohammedu7105]

Hey! im really hoping you read this comment and possibly could use the info here. this is regarding your video on low-end PCVR usage, i think there's a few things you missed and here i wrote a guide for you of things to try. if any of these produce better results, i think you should totally do a follow-up video. as someone with a GTX 1650 GPU and only 8 gigs of ram (4 of Vram), i wanted to come in and give you my experience, and how im able to play something like the RE8 VR mod somewhat consistently (haven't finished it, so there could be a part of the game my GPU struggles with, ill find out. also note: these tips are mainly for steamVR games on quest 2.) when i first got this laptop, i was a bit disappointed i couldnt run vr games well, like the forest. they could *run*.. but any graphically-demanding game would have a low FPS when i ran them with airlink or link. RE8 vr mod ran like garbage even with 20% resolution and 72hz, AND VRperfkit installed with 60% render res. experimented with oculuskiller because i heard it helped performance (only having to use SteamVR composite instead of oculus and steamvr, etc) but it felt like it did NOTHING. tried open composite, but experienced an error when launching any game, so i couldn't really use it. recently, i made a discovery. i used ALVR this time (virtual desktop could have similar results but i havent tried it), and it gave me a HUGE performance boost! i can now run the re8 vr mode on native resolution, even when i got to the village (which is where last time it started running bad), and i can run greenhell VR on high(er) settings even though i dont think i even hit minimum settings. i feel like oculus airlink (and link) hold you back a lot, running both steamVR and oculus dashboard takes a HUGE toll in performance, and oculus hasn't given oculus dashboard much attention lately so its probably unoptimized as hell. also quick tip (might apply to VD but i did this with ALVR): DON'T increase the res on ALVR (or VD). that slows you down a lot. just keep it at native or lower it if you have to. you can get away with increasing steamVR res a lot more than you would with ALVR (and, maybe, VD). thanks for reading.

[@PlushiiMono]

Have you tried steam link? afaik it's like ALVR but uses steams own software

[@conron3651]

Been doing this with my cv1 and G2. It works good when it works but man does it have its drawbacks. Also it really hates wrist flicks and unreal engine games

[@Eunostos]

heeey this might actually be an upgrade from my CV1-touch + G2!

[@I.DONT.USE.Z3N]

I have a cv1 and I really just want to use the pro controllers with it 😂

[@fabienlelaurin7760]

If only we can avoid a quest or quest pro running in parallel, I can see this controllers associate with the bigscreen beyond

[@TuttoinVR]

Gj bravo!

[@TikkaQrow]

hold up this would be a way to get pro controllers on my quest 1 uwu? I mean i already do the whole slime vr setup every boot up, but quest one controllers are becoming RARE unicorns and Meta doesn't make them anymore oh never mind, it needs a quest 2 or pro to work

[@linklickz]

if it doesnt work for wmr then its not worth it

[@Pirafier]

maybe because of this video someone will make it easier to do for people so it would be better to do and you wont need to do it over and over again and it will just work with out a quest 2 or pro head set

[@Billybond-zp8gs]

whens roblox coming out for quest 2 standalone for free .

[@Treychik]

you're a freak (in a good way, obviously), lol...I love that you're laughing through the explanation KNOWING that this is insane lol

[@Dj-vrYT]

Me no have no good computer and no quest pro 😢

[@intheframemedia]

useless with the quest 2 . had to reset every time I used. lost tracking so frequently in game I returned em

[@Big.Jimmothy]

Very Dumb question but does this work with quest 2 controllers? Yes you can make fun of me

[@spitfireGamesVR]

He explained that the touch controllers couldn’t make use of this because they track through the headset, the only reason the pro controllers work is because they track themselves and then send their tracking data

[@Jkauppa]

so why not just pair bluetooth the quest pro controllers directly, not through a middle man, is that a software not compatible issue, meh

[@Jkauppa]

in any case any bluetooth device should be publicly visible, and their capabilities available, not taking account anything software that uses the bt capabilities

[@Jkauppa]

looks like magic lol

[@gamingboi_7730]

The mysticle the testicle

[@The_notorious_poptart]

wsg homie

[@sm_grayson]

WATS GOUDA MAN

[@dopaminedosevroasis9382]

Have Any1 tried quest pro controllers with psvr2??

[@steadypuppy7]

yes it does work with psvr2 and its awesome!

[@tishkywishkyontiktok8235]

2nd

[@tishkywishkyontiktok8235]

Pls like this

[@sm_grayson]

No ur not I am

[@r_olawg]

@@sm_grayson nope

[@sm_grayson]

Oh nvm I just checked lol😂

[@zombieboyjesse6]

First

[@HistiSubs]

This seems fine on the surface, but the fact you NEEEED a quest hmd to even passthrough as a middleman, I cannot be bother to stress the concept of REDUCING clickbait hits.