Used DJI FPV First Impressions |Twitchy Unstable Flight |First Review of Quad & O3 System|

[@Phoenix.-]

I can only confirm all the "twitches" and "wobbles" you describe. 😂 Great video, man.Thank you for sharing the experience!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea after flying it a bit more, I even got a second one to test… it seems normal behavior. Just the quad fighting inputs & wind in an effort to maintain stability. I’m working on Part II, despite obvious limitations I’ve come to love this drone for what it is! Appreciate you adding confirmation, most people have agreed. Cheers bud!

[@Wild__FPV]

Super stoked to tell you - all good, dude! :) Totally normal stuff, you're just not used to it. Awesome job on the video, by the way! Wishing you smooth skies, my friend!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

That’s right you flew one of these for years right?! I should have just asked you. Good to hear, so far we’ve been liking it a lot, super easy to fly for the “non-FPV pilot” family here, and great image quality!

[@Wild__FPV]

Yeah, I flew with that bad boy for a solid 2 years, cruising through roughly 2500 km (yup, got those stats handy). Towards the end, I ditched connecting it to my phone, so I lost track of my mileage. Still, it's a stellar drone for diving into the FPV world. Now, about the camera - wasn't really feeling it, so I slapped a GoPro on there instead. Biggest bummer? Battery life, hands down. But hey, not deal-breakers by any means. This drone's got loads of upsides too! Wishing your fam happy flying adventures! Catch you later, buddy!@@GiantAntCowboy

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@Wild__FPV yea, I have proper FPV quads, so this is just a drone to fly around the property and have fun with! I definitely need a couple more batteries though…

[@lolmetyuri]

Eager to see manual great vid as always!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Thanks! Working on Part II now. Manual flys much better, but I have also become used to how N/S modes handle. This drone certainly doesn’t replace any of my proper FPV quads, but it has become a welcome member to the family here! Always appreciate your support cheers!

[@miquelmarti6537]

Crazy good image and range even at the minimum stock power. But having no spare parts and being so expensive to repair is a big no for me. Hopefully you can glue that broken arm or canibalize its camera and vtx. Your videos are getting even better and better. Congrats!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea I was able to fix the arm. It didn’t break but the internal mount came loose. I took it all apart and re-epoxied the mount. The design makes replacing the arm overly complex… I’ll show it in the next video. Appreciate you watching and supporting the channel!!

[@DriftaholiC]

It's a big heavy quad with lots of propwash and tune issues but is probably just trying really hard to maintain exact position. It was a terrible purchase to get into the FPV hobby but now looking back I really do appreciate DJI's return to home, would trust flying it to the edge of it's range. I don't think I would ever try to manually land it, even now as a pro, as it's so fragile.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, based on more recent flights it seems the wind was just too much for those modes to smoothly correct. I have several proper FPV quads, which fly great and handle crashes with zero issues. This quad I got just for fun, and for non-FPV pilots to practice with, and we’ve been having a great time with it. (Part II coming Friday) However this is not a Camera Drone, and it’s not a Freestyle or Race quad either. Just some hybrid, and I can appreciate it for that purpose. I broke the front arm because I forgot I was in Manual Mode while landing. It touched down and then flipped over before I remembered to “double-click” the disarm button. That little flip over broke the arm loose, I fixed it but what a overly complex repair… lol

[@MadRC]

Just something to note. Technically the DJI FPV drone is not O3. DJI do actually label it O3 but it’s a generation behind the O3 Airunit and Avata. It’s more O2.5. Or alternatively you call it O3 and the O3 is O3.5. It’s not the same hardware setup. The resolution on the FPV drone did increase to 810p however it’s basically still the same as the Digital FPV system.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Hey Ian, thanks for tuning in & clarifying that point. Being my first DJI setup (I know, late to the party…) I’m pretty impressed with the image, and system in general. I’ll have to pick up an O3 setup for another build now I guess. This drone is quite fun, a nice middle ground for non-FPV pilots. My sister-in-law is obsessed with flying it! Haha!

[@an_R_key]

i had the same issue. for me it was the gimbal wires. DJI uses cheap thin stranded wire. you should be able to reproduce the twitchyness by plugging the controller into a PC and checking under game controller settings in windows. when you move the gimbals u should get twitches there too from bad or damaged gimbal wires. you need to take it to a cell phone repair shop and have the wires to the gimbals fixed. i was able to get mine fixed by replacing two of these wires.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Interesting, I’ll have to try that, appreciate the tip. Most the time it seems like the whole quad is twitching or rolling hard, not just the camera/gimbal. I’ve been flying it more recently with less wind and it’s much better, manual mode with EIS turned on is very smooth. Looking forward to spending more time with this quad. Thanks for watching and for the tips!

[@an_R_key]

@@GiantAntCowboyi meant controller gimbals. you can also confirm what i'm saying by testing auto landing. if the drone lands perfectly without wobble, then the drone itself is fine.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@an_R_key ahh thanks for clarifying, I’ll definitely check that out and let you know. Cheers!

[@travisburchell]

The twitching is due to how the FPV drone operates in normal and sport mode. You are basically flying a camera drone but with a single axis bubble instead of a 3-axis. So yes, the twitching is caused by the wind and the drone leveling itself. If you turn EIS on in the goggles that will help. The key to enjoying the Potato is accepting it for what it is. It’s not a camera drone and it’s not an FPV drone, it’s a hybrid. I have fun flying g it but it’s fragile so not something I fly when I am wanting to push the limits.

[@Lostgaming81]

Watching again keep in mind the drone wants to keep the camera level in normal and sport mode, so you can get some major shutters/adjustments when slowing down. Especially if rapidly slowing down.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea man, I think you’re 100% right here. Since filming this video I have activated EIS and it smoothed out things a lot, also the wind has calmed down so the quad is much less twitchy. I’m fly my 7” quad is crazy wind and it barely flinches… so my expectations were admittedly a bit too high. Ultimately I like this DJI FPV drone quite a bit, and my family members have been really excited to experience flying without the stress of normal FPV quads. I’ll share some of these videos soon, pretty neat. Definitely fragile… I landed the other day, forgetting I was in M Mode, by the time I “double clicked” the disarm switch the quad flipped over and broke an arm! Haha, stupid! Thanks watching appreciate your feedback, cheers!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@Lostgaming81 yea, exactly the conclusion I’ve come to. Basically the drone is constantly fighting me to return to level, and then fighting high wind made it overreact and feel crazy! Flew today with no wind and it’s much much better, also M Mode is obviously much better because the quad doesn’t have to argue with me. Haha!

[@Dronitoni]

For doing a break during FPV-flying, I use INAV on my quads. Works perfectly.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, I’ve often thought about switching my 7” to iNav and setting up “position hold”; looks like it works really well now. However my 7” doesn’t have a moveable gimbal like this which is quite nice to have whole hovering!

[@WR.13]

Thank you for the work! I was also looking for a potato, just for fun. After seeing this video I’ve decided to just stick to HD0 and normal 5”… 😂 BTW: when I used to fly dji I would also get lots of lag and stutters when the bitrate would drop (even with 3-5 mbps), did you notice any of that?

[@GiantAntCowboy]

If you can find a good deal I still think a DJI FPV setup is with it, but you have to treat it like a Hybrid Camera Drone/FPV drone. I do notice a little lag when signal gets weak, however I just learned it’s only operating at 25mW. I’m going to do the Drone Hacks mod which should give it 1200mW which would be a huge improvement! We’ve been flying it more, in less windy days, and it does much better. Love that you can just stop, and look around, and it’s been great for my “non-FPV pilot” family members. Stay tuned for Part II, cheers!

[@gunnhildpaulinelystad4895]

Thanks for letting me fly it. So addictive!

[@GiantAntCowboy]

You’ll “earn your wings” in no time! Keep up the good work! 😎👍

[@FlyingBeeFPV]

Yes the used Market it is tempting for a used Potato ;-) , 2 Things are holding me back: 1) Battery Price, 2) Build Quality/ Repairability. Thanks for sharing you experiences.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, can get this whole setup used for less than a pair of new goggles. Batteries and repairs are definitely potential cost though… I already had to repair the arm after it flipped over during a poor landing… the design makes the repair way too complicated as well. I’ll share that story in Part II, stay tuned. Cheers!

[@X862go]

How do i find part 2?

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@X862go sorry, I didn’t really call it officially call it Part II I guess. • Here’s a link Part II- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpnMiWyKipx5mZY • There’s also a Part III where it goes horribly wrong… - kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3m1ZJmJiJKNmbs Thanks for watching!

[@bluefpv3263]

did the dji fpv alrdy have the o3? i thought it was on vista

[@GiantAntCowboy]

The DJI FPV was the first “O3” system, but I’ve heard the Avata/Standalone O3 unit is better… like an “O3.5”

[@chrisbee5481]

Unless you're in really strong winds, the wobble isn't normal. It actually says strong wind in the DVR, when it wobbles in the wind. I defenatly recommend the aikon prop adapter and gemfan 51455 props. Also done hacks.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Thanks for watching and sharing thoughts. I think it was a combination of the drone fighting high wind and my stick inputs… recent flights in calm weather have been much better. I’ll definitely be installing the DH and Prop Adapters. Thanks for the tips, stay tuned, cheers!

[@mingscustoms]

Mine doesn't do the weird twitches firmware 1.02

[@GiantAntCowboy]

I think it was mostly the wind, but I’m getting a second FPV Drone and will do a comparison to see for sure.

[@alefpvc.r.4540]

Remember its an FPV drone, you're going to see all the drones movements when ajusting for air, if you fly in Normal mode. FPV drones don't have gimbals to stabilize the image like mavics do

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, we’ve been flying the quad more lately in calm weather and it seems fine. I think I just wasn’t used to fighting Drone corrections which were made worse by the wind… appreciate your feedback, I’ll post a follow up soon. Cheers!

[@Vousie]

Looking at the props in view of the frame, the quad is actually bouncing around all over the place, but the gimbal on the drone is stabilising it. The "jerks" are just when it goes past what the gimbal can stabilise. So most likely, I think you were just seeing it being buffeted by the wind, Normal and Sport mode are both GPS-stabilised modes, I think, which means when it gets pushed sideways by the wind, the quad has to roll to counteract it to stay in the same physical spot, so that's probably the reason. I suggest you test it on a really calm day to make sure it flies normally when there's no wind. Also, I see it did not take you long to find out why FPV pilots didn't like this quad... I call it a "glass quad", because pretty much the first crash is gonna do major damage to it.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, did some flights today, beautiful calm sunny day, and it handled much better. The high wind was definitely an issue… I just expected it to handle the wind better I guess. As you said, N/S mode are fighting me and the wind at the same time, which results in crazy over corrections. Glass Drone… exactly. No way this thing should ever be used for freestyle/racing. Literally I was landing, forgot I was in manual mode when I touched down. By the time I realized and “double clicked” the disarm button the quad had flipped over and broke the arm! Haha! Fortunately I was able to repair it. Thanks for watching and sharing thoughts, stay tuned cheers!

[@Vousie]

@@GiantAntCowboy Yikes, that sounds even worse than what I've seen other people experience (I don't own any DJI gear, for this reason and others...) Looking forward to seeing your video about it.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@Vousie it was really weird, didn’t break, but the mounting bracket inside the arm came loose… I removed the arm and re-epoxied the internal mount.

[@Vousie]

@@GiantAntCowboy Huh. Haven't heard of that happening as much. Mostly it sounded like other people's cases was a break in the arm itself/somehting unrepairable and they had to send it back to DJI for a $200+ repair... Good to hear yours wasn't quite that bad.

[@fyzobaba]

It's twitchy cos u not used to the stock rate. U have to turn down the rate , add more expo, and turn down the center sensivity. Stock is 160 for sensitivity, 460 for rate, and 0.54 for expo. Try this 100, 300 and 0.6 for pitch , yaw and roll.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@fyzobaba Appreciate the advice, but i think it’s just normal behavior in Normal or Sport modes; just the quad over-correcting to stop itself & hover. I’ve flown three different DJI FPVs now and they all do the same thing. In Manual mode they fly fine, no twitching, handles more like a standard FPV quad. For reference I’ve been flying FPV quads for 5 years so I’m very familiar with rates, expo, tuning ect. I have a dozen FPV quads, but really like this one for checking out things around the property. I can literally sit on my couch and fly around most my farm, amazing! I did a couple follow up videos talking more about my experience, (kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpnMiWyKipx5mZY) and actually lost this one in a mountain during a test, haha! Check those video out of curious, cheers!

[@fyzobaba]

@@GiantAntCowboy nice one .

[@PatientZiro]

Stupid, Stupid, Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. I felt that :)

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Total facepalm 🤦🏽‍♂️ moment. Forgot I was in Manual Mode while landing, touched down fine but then flipped over. Quickly “double-clicked” the disarm button but it was too late. Broke arm… got it fixed, but wasn’t a simple repair. I’ll show that in Part II later this week.

[@Maxhotgo]

could it be that the wobbling is because it wants to counter the wind

[@Maxhotgo]

from 7:00-8:00 it is twitching mayb because of the trees on the right?

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@Maxhotgo yea, I think you’re right. More recent flights with less wind have been much better. Manual mode with EIS enable is almost perfect. Appreciate the comments!

[@kardady]

I dont have one, just watching 😁🤘

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, I’ve always wanted one simply for my non-FPV friends/family. Also I wanted a pair of V2 goggles… used market for the win. The drone flys much better when less wind. Thanks for watching, cheers bud!

[@InfinityDrones]

Might need some imu calibration. You won't see bitrate with the DJI FPV. N mode will also limit your speed and the lower you go the sensors will slow you down even more. Also, its more like DJI O2.5 - The Avata/o3 is a lot better :) I would recommend land with the goggles off since it will land like a mavic (do not try and land in manual mode). I wonder if your props are fine, might explain the weird twitches(a lot of the twitchness you getting is obstacle avoidance sensors as well) - Remember, the OH Shit button is pretty awesome. Here is a link to my video that I think you'll enjoy. The DJI FPV is pretty awesome drone, especially with Dronehacks on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXTEkJWuoN9koLM

[@chrisbee5481]

You're the man for this drone. Learnt so much from you with drone hacks. Awesome 👌

[@InfinityDrones]

@@chrisbee5481 ah thx man! 😊

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@InfinityDrones dynamite response! I’ll check out your vid a little later. I have re-calibrated the IMU, Compass, and RC Sticks. Also checked & swapped the props. I think most of what I was noticing was due to wind, like auto leveling doing it’s job 110% fighting me and the wind… I like the idea of the “oh shit” button but I’ve been flying quads for years and pushing that button actually takes more effort than just making the proper correction. Haha! I do like it for other folks flying the quad though, especially when they start practicing in M Mode. What’s the difference between this “O2.5” system and the proper O3? Just better image? Thanks again for watching and leaving solid feedback. Cheers!

[@InfinityDrones]

@@GiantAntCowboy been a long time subscriber. Love your stuff. Yeah the "dji" mode will try and take control as much as possible (especially with you flying close to the ground). The twitches I've not experienced personally. But when you fly it in manual mode and you still have twitches... Then I would be concerned. Remember, this thing will not fly great compared to other 5 inch's. It's lovingly called the "potato" for a reason. But it does bring some seriously cool features to the table, especially guys coming from a mavic. The O3 system has much beter image quality and better latency. Also, h265 4k is nice. But generally speaking the o3/Avata system has better image, latency and range - not saying what you're getting with the dji fpv drone is bad, but i think my O2 5 explains it best 😅

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@InfinityDrones awesome, appreciate the support. I dump all my free-time & energy into this channel. Just trying to share my experiences and provide some entertainment for the hobby. Excellent info, I’m new to DJI, been avoiding it for years, mostly because of price… but great used gear is so inexpensive now I couldn’t help but pick up a system to play with. Plus I’ve always wanted this quad to let others play with. Fly proper FPV quad is just to hard for people to easily pick up… my wife had quite the “traumatic” FPV experience a year or so ago (lol) which I’ll share in an upcoming video. Haha!

[@Shooting-Up]

Shouldn’t jerk around like that it looks like you have a faulty unit. I have 2 and they are both extremely solid in wind In N and S it leans to the side in wind due to gps holding position But never seen it jerk around like that

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Weird, I actually got a second one, (also a 3rd one but that’s another story…) and they all have similar behavior. Much better in Manual Mode. It’s mostly when you let off the stock in N or S mode, the drone like super corrects to stop itself. Here’s Part II where I show this a bit more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpnMiWyKipx5mZY Part 3 where I lose the drone coming soon… haha cheers!

[@Shooting-Up]

@@GiantAntCowboy to be fair I only fly in manual, they do fly shit in n and s but not seen it jerking around in mine like that

[@MrBornenjap]

Oh no... HD Zero big fan,,, do you fall in love in to DJI 😂 now?🎉 That's totally normal, because you flying Normal mode and to close from the ground or obstacles (it can sense up to 3-5 meters i think) that's mean all sensors are work their job to prevent you smashing the obstacles 😂... When you flying sport mode, the sensor only warning you via the goggles. When you flying manual mode, you on your own 🎉🎉🎉

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Haha! HDZero still has better feel and feedback, but that image quality & performance (if this thing is only 25mW!) is excellent. Like I’ve sat on my couch and comfortably flew around the farm with minimal issues. Great little drone, it’s not a camera drone or an FPV drone, but a hybrid. I’ll post my follow up on Friday hopefully. Appreciate the feedback, what you’re saying seems to be accurate. Cheers!

[@MrBornenjap]

@@GiantAntCowboy for sure, I've been flying this thing a little while... And I'm just wondering, can you help influence Carl zou to lower the price of HD zero goggles? damn, DJI and walksnail have lowered their arrogance by lowering prices. why not HD zero? I hope you would 🤝 😂

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@MrBornenjap yea, it’s crazy how affordable DJI goggles have become… Integra Goggles are like $350 brand new! Not sure how much sway I have with Carl’s pricing… unfortunately to compete I think he’ll lose money on every sale. WalkSnail/DJI are both trying to undercut each other, DJI is a multi billion dollar corporation though so they can easily win that war.

[@DroneDelirium]

mine twitches in normal and sport also

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Yea, I’ve come to the conclusion based on more flights, and feedback from folks, this is pretty normal. Thanks for watching and confirming!

[@m2kfpv449]

Consider starting a second yt channel for this type of content. Didn’t fit with your other fpv content imo. This what all dji drones do in fpv gimbal mode. Minis do this. Mavics do this. No worries though. Enjoy your new potato. It’s actually very relaxing to fly mid range in manual mode. Great cruising over water. Terrible at freestyle. Best with prop adapters and 5.1 or 5.2 inch GF/HQ props

[@GiantAntCowboy]

Well, it’s an “FPV Drone” says so right in the name… haha! Just a new toy, got it for my non-FPV friends/family, and because I wanted a pair of V2 Goggles. I’ll definitely be getting prop adapters, the cost of new DJI props alone is reason enough… Thanks watching, cheers man!

[@P-Bee]

@@GiantAntCowboy I'm late to the DJI party too. Only flew one pack on a freind's 5" with DJI a few weeks ago and started looking at the secondhand market. Like you say there are a few of these DJI FPV drones around. So your video was perfect timing and totally suitable for your main/only channel. Thanks.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@@P-Bee yea, I’ll post a follow up shortly which shows more normal conditions and it’s much better. I picked up this whole package for about $500. Not bad for V2 goggles, drone, ect. Prices have come down a lot finally, definitely worth grabbing a setup. Appreciate the support, cheers bud!

[@chrisbee5481]

Maybe the former owner changed the pids and messed it up.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

I don’t think you can change the PIDs, can you? I checked/updated all the FW in case to see if that might help, but I didn’t.

[@chrisbee5481]

@@GiantAntCowboy you can change pids in the goggles settings.

[@GiantAntCowboy]

@chrisbee5481 PIDs, or Rates? I only see rates.

[@chrisbee5481]

@@GiantAntCowboy sorry I think I am wrong. I remember settings but you're right. Never felt the need to play around there anyway. The other comment was helpful maybe, because it could be your controller has issues. Check it out. As said it's not normal, unless it was really really windy and your osd actually tells you strong wind.

[@chrisbee5481]

@@GiantAntCowboy also try turning obsticle avoidence off, like infinitydrones said. Sorry, but thats the issue sometimes with second hand stuff. Just get an other only fpv dji drone. You need spares now anyway.