UserBenchmark Rages over The Ryzen 7950X3D

[@NikTek]

Thank You everyone for 200k views! If you want me to do more UserBenchmark hating on AMD make sure to Like this Video 👍🏻🙂

[@bigfm32]

Lo sabía ya no es fiable esto

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Have you seen Gamers Nexus refute UserBenchmark too? Lots of industry reviewers are critical of UserBenchmark. We need a website with honest data. Gamers Nexus should publish their data. You should publish yours. Maybe jointly?

[@ninjaofthepivipi2405]

Lol

[@shadowdragon7045]

Take down that fanboy website, soldier 🤜🤛 What a shame.. That is a website with a pretty good UI for comparing PC components.. if only they gave an honest performance review, we don't have to do this..

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

@@shadowdragon7045 it is such a nice website to use. It's organised. Sad that it's so biased.

[@JacksonAcademy1]

"Be wary of sponsored reviews". Userbenchmark being sponsored by intel:

[@rlifeh]

your right 😂

[@takao4491]

for real

[@ceilyurie856]

Actually, Intel considers them SO BIASED that even THEY don't accept their reviews

[@galaxybiscuit]

Even Intel is nicer to AMD

[@wasd3108]

@@rlifeh what about his left?

[@escapetherace1943]

UserBenchmark is literally banned on so many forums for fake info/bias in regards to AMD, yet still a #1 search result. Spread the word to people.

[@jarjar621]

userbenchmark has simpler user interface compared to other sites. they gave you a collection of bars first before giving a full detail of speech you wont ever read. if only other platform just as simple as userbenchmark, then it would be better.

[@lamenamethefirst]

The concept of the website is actually pretty great. Their charts/graphs are reliable because they're based on actual benchmarks run by users. The data is unbiased. Just don't read the description. I mean who needs that anyway. Read the data and form your own opinion.

[@escapetherace1943]

@@lamenamethefirst lol no. The data is completely bullshit and biased. It will tell you certain cpus have much better results/performance than comparable Nvidia gpus, but it's a lie. Go compare an rx6800 to a 3070 or something and it will say a 3070 is faster on paper, yet an rx6800 pulls 50 frames more than it in almost every modern AAA game, and it's way cheaper.

[@lamenamethefirst]

@@escapetherace1943 No way. The benchmarks come from thousands of PCs. There's no biased troll sitting there tweaking the result of every benchmark to be anti AMD. There's more to life than gaming. The benchmark most likely reflects overall performance. AMD cards are abysmal when it comes to certain productivity tasks compared to Nvidia. Nvidia has better optimisation for most software, much better ray tracing performance, NVENC and for anything that utilizes CUDA it's not even a contest. It beats AMD cards one tier above it. In gaming it's the other way round. But even then dlss is still superior to fsr. If you just want pure fps then sure, AMD has much better price to performance. But for literally anything else, the tech and features on Nvidia are just superior. Now one could argue that it's because of Nvidia's greedy monopolistic practices and I'd be inclined to agree with them. But that doesn't mean that the charts are biased. You're just comparing gaming performance when a gpu does a lot more than that. You COULD argue that the benchmark itself favours Nvidia but the truth is that so do most real world applications. So you can't just watch a couple of gaming benchmarks and claim that the charts are biased because you saw AMD's card get more fps in games.

[@escapetherace1943]

@@lamenamethefirst not reading all that but their bench doesn't accurately report AMD products, troll

[@SalemTechsperts]

The worst CPU rating that’s ever lived

[@JorKujoe]

Hello The Greatest Technician that Has Ever Lived

[@SalemTechsperts]

@@JorKujoe

[@GamerImpazzito]

ĹOĻ

[@RandomPerson-65c816]

@@SalemTechspertsI love your content Andy

[@lonely.toaster]

Racoons unite

[@Th1200]

This aged like fine wine regarding intel having so much trouble with their last space heater gens

[@fadillah6014]

People already warned it tho, but of course "shit happen"

[@LiberatedMind1]

Doesn't stop "user" benchmarks from shilling their shit.

[@theracingban]

AMD is in trouble now after the mid 9000 series

[@Th1200]

@@theracingban "trouble"

[@OGuiBlindao]

At least 9000 series was just marginal improvement, 13th and 14th gen intel cpus self destructed​ @@theracingban

[@riven4121]

Reminder when AMD's Ryzen CPUs began outpacing Intel's in multicore, they changed their "benchmark" thresholds so multicore processors scored worse. At one point (and I think this is still the case), the site showed that a 2nd gen i3 Intel CPU outpaced a modern Ryzen CPU lmao

[@joshuajohn74]

userbenchmark almost made me buy a intel cpu since i was new to the market thankfully reddit was there to help :D

[@StevenMussels]

They showed Intel i3's beating intel i9's because of their bias to "less cores is better" at one point

[@joshuajohn74]

@@StevenMussels lmaoo

[@angelaizen2231]

​@@StevenMussels wasnt it the 10980XE that got beaten by an i3 as well? An 18 core HEDT cpu getting beaten by a 4 core 😂

[@StevenMussels]

@@angelaizen2231 it was something absurd like that yes, because it was biased based on metrics only a meth addict who owns stock in Intel could understand

[@MikoYotsuya292]

UserBenchmark as usual, always putting out April fools content regardless of time or date.

[@Gr3yCard1nal]

It's like the Groundhog day but it's April the 1st all the time xDDD

[@danielp121]

​@@Gr3yCard1nal good one 🤣

[@NikTek]

It's important for any review website to maintain a high level of professionalism and objectivity in their content, UserBenchmark doesn't seem to care

[@therookieshaker7795]

"Out of season, early April's fool joke"

[@Gr3yCard1nal]

@@therookieshaker7795 Or an all-time classics

[@quintrapnell3605]

User benchmark’s anti AMD stance has been an epic meme for 4 years now

[@elchicovip01]

Since the website was created

[@nathangamble125]

@@elchicovip01 This actually isn't true. Userbenchmark's reviews of AMD CPUs and their benchmark weightings made sense until 2019. I don't know what happened. Maybe they got bought out by someone, or maybe CPUPro had a stroke and became brain-damaged?

[@elchicovip01]

@@nathangamble125 Nah, because userbenchmark was right at some point does not mean it was not bias. the FX series was pretty bad at single core and match inter at multi interger and beat intel at floating point multi thread. When Ryzen came out the userbenchmark bias started to show.

[@heyhoe168]

@@nathangamble125 well, it was always intel-paid. It just was not so obvious until AMD returned to the edge of competition. I honestly believe Intel and nvidia should pay big anti-monopoly bill just for this site existence.

[@DerdOn0ner]

You mean Epyc?

[@LuKiSCraft]

To put it the way Linus did: "Seriously ... who writes these things!??" LMAO

[@technicallyoverwhelmed2948]

Somehow i can hear his voice by reading the quote

[@not_smart_and_not_a_toy]

​@@technicallyoverwhelmed2948 everyoane shoul

[@user9267]

AMD should literally sue them for defamation

[@k.n.s.t]

That's what ub wants, it'd add to their "evidence"

[@OneAngrehCat]

Agreed, they really should, but honestly, it would not do anything. The entire tech internet is already mocking them. Some people probably do get fooled by this website though...

[@WisteriaBerlitz]

@@OneAngrehCat I'd reckon that casual people still use UB. They show up as the first result on Google after all. I'm a home based PC seller, and I've got a few buyers asking me to use UB's benchmarking tool before buying 🤷‍♀

[@77wolfblade]

Meh, a lot of places ban/block that site. Including r/intel.

[@youwotmate7705]

This is the most American sentence I’ve ever read lmfao

[@FDXHOMEDEL]

When they hit you with the ‘rational people will agree with me,’ you just know there’s a teary soyjack behind those words.

[@Acez420]

ONG 💀

[@xypzs5123]

funny how soyjacks are trying to call others soyjacks nowadays. It's the uno reverse card with modern npcs. "Call him a liar so he cant call me a liar" tactic. Stfu soyjack we all know

[@IncompAlt]

@@xypzs5123 How much did Intel pay you to say this, huh?

[@xypzs5123]

@@IncompAlt be silent soyjack

[@IncompAlt]

@@xypzs5123 Funny how your original comment was criticizing soyjacks calling others soyjacks, and here is you, a soyjack, calling me, a soyjack. Where did you get that degree in logical reasoning from? McDonalds?

[@ALph4cro]

How in the hell are they still up with the bias so hard? Bruh if I was as rich as Elon, I'd buy Userbenchmark and then just shut it down 😂😂😂

[@ARCAD3BLOOD]

they are in this bias because, shortly speaking, it works. It gained your attention. the value of internet is in it's reactions. Whatever if it's positive or negative, if you're on somebody's tongue, you've won. If you truly want for something to be gone from internet, don't give it attention.

[@rensomusni8419]

@@ARCAD3BLOOD that's the exact reason why I completely ignore userbenchmarks. I wouldn't even bother checking them out because I know that they will full of crap. I check Nanoreview instead

[@eee1200]

@@ARCAD3BLOOD well its just funny to make fun of them why don't we give them attention

[@lachlantrescott5533]

@@ARCAD3BLOOD Yeah that is true for the most part of the internet, but I'm not sure if that can be applied to a website that claims is a "team of scientists and engineers" reporting data as source for the tech industry. It would be like if a news company deliberately publishes inaccurate journalism, sure they may garner attention but nobody would ever cite them anymore, same with Userbenchmark.

[@thienbaonguyen4597]

@@lachlantrescott5533 But the sad thing is that many people have been and will be fooled by them, thanks to the website's design and their "teams of professionals" with their fancy e-FPS (basically their way to make Intel look good without saying how bias they were) and their reviews below.

[@jcole8008]

"...for a fraction of the price" and yet I just scored my 7800X3D for less than the 13600K 😂

[@vidal9747]

4/3 of the price is still a fraction...

[@LuZ-vg6fy]

I mean, in my country, 13600k is 300$ while 7800x3d is ~450$, it matters.

[@n1gtwhisper158]

My 7800x3d was like $300 on newegg after discounts

[@simedu444]

@@LuZ-vg6fy The spike in price is due to really high demand for the 7800X3D but it is still worth it because you will have acess to at least 2 gen for upgrade whereas the 13600k is on a dead end plateforme (14th gen basically ad 0 performance in gaming)

[@harrys2331]

7800x3d is 360 here and 13600kf is 250 dollars

[@HM-rz8nv]

This is more than just mask completely off, UB is reveling in being a meme-worthy Troll site.

[@anchorbubba]

i dont think ive ever heard it taken seriously before, the intel subreddit has it blocked even though its in intels favor because of how historically and obviously biased and straight up malicious arrogant fanboying

[@HM-rz8nv]

@@anchorbubba Yep. How that was never a wake up call to them just serves as more evidence that either they are completely insane, or its become a super elaborate joke site self-parodying the very stereotypes generated by its past behavior to begin with.

[@anchorbubba]

@H M probably because they are the top of results and get lots of impressions, still raking in dough eitherway

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

The thumbnail sums it all.

[@NikTek]

Perfect for my KZbin Channel XD

[@benwhite8157]

If more than half of a review is talking more about the company than it is the actual product, the objectivity of the review comes into question. There are plenty of subjective reasons to have problems with a company, but in this case, it seems to boil down to bLuE gOoD rEd BaD.

[@eurogaming1456]

Sounds like a fucking TF2 game if you ask me

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Also, this ‘advice’ to tell readers what to think 🤦‍♂️

[@XaviarCraig]

Yep. Anytime a review veers offtopic my tinfoil hat goes on and my illuminati lizzzzardkin sense kicks off.Though this time around its so comical I cant take it seriously at all.

[@NikTek]

If a review seems to be biased towards one brand or company, it can raise questions about the credibility and trustworthiness of the reviewer, at this point UB has made so many bad reviews for team Red that they can't be trusted anymore

[@ivicamajmunskikreten9714]

@@eurogaming1456 the toxicity matches it as well. must be a MvM player.

[@TheNefastor]

Behold Intel's latest technology, codenamed "gaslight" 😂

[@kingghidorah8106]

on God 💯

[@Argophobiac]

Built on 14nm+++++++++++

[@purplestrawberrysunset]

Gaslight Lake

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@purplestrawberrysunset Bruhuh xd

[@hircine92h]

14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[@samin90]

UB was banned on the Intel subreddit lmfao, no one except the grossly misinformed takes them seriously

[@Not_interestEd-]

So anyone's grandparents that fall asleep watching CNN? Sweet, I won't have to worry about that then.

[@ScrotumJoe34]

@@Not_interestEd-old people watch Fox

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

@@ScrotumJoe34 Old people still watch _any_ cable :)

[@reaIixx]

They do watch Fox a lot though. Can't deny that

[@pranavmohite8544]

Its even worse that Google keeps it at the top of the search results when searched for any cpu review so that someone who's not familiar would end up buying the wrong product.

[@Gnarfendorf]

Thats why you go to your techtuber of choice for a less biased result first. For not techsavvy people tho, well they get screwed by google search algorithms sadly.

[@osopenowsstudio9175]

Yes bro i almost opted for intel 12th gen that more pricey instead of **MUCH CHEAPER** AM4 platform, because in my place the LGA 1700 is crazy priced comparing to AM4 B550m,and the CPU price is cheaper on AMD like 120$ for Ryzen 5600 instead of I5 12400f, the reason why i pick AMD even if i could find cheaper deal Intel like i3 12100f, it's because AMD better at multitasking and gaming while also can overclock unlike Intel locking the cheap chips and won't cover OC damage even pay premium price for K series

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@osopenowsstudio9175 sadly i was too impatient to wait for the new amd chips, so i went with a 13700k this time. Still a good cpu, but for gaming alone i shouldve waited...

[@pranavmohite8544]

@@Gnarfendorf It's still a good cpu btw

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@pranavmohite8544 i know, im pretty satisfied, but... couldve had better if i was more patient.

[@timmanboy1]

I wasn't aware that AMD was paying people to buy their CPUs. Where can I sign up

[@ripyep3171]

Does that mean I fucked myself when I bought an i9 12900k ? Fucking hell... what AMD CPU is the best out there rn ?

[@timmanboy1]

@Rip Yep technically the 7950x is at the top of the charts below the 13900k. But it runs less power wattage and I manage to get mine for about $580 during Christmas. Nothing wrong with the 12th or 13th gen intel. Stick with it. Should be great for many years to come

[@ripyep3171]

@@timmanboy1 What motherboard DDR5 is good for an AMD processor 7950x ? An i9 12900k isnt bad but still...

[@timmanboy1]

@Rip Yep any that support exbo. Amd version to XMP for ram speed 5600 to 6000mhz. One that has low latency is preferred I don't know any good brands. I run corsair vengeance 5600mhz.

[@lexavlogs7149]

​@Rip Yep nah dude go for 13900k you can also use your same mobo and faster ram to destroy amd

[@makeandbreakgames1791]

I remember when I saw that a AMD product finally made the top ten even with Userbenchmark's bias, I thought that someone hacked it.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

I'm pretty sure they had something similar to say. "AMD is maKIng chipS CAteRed to OUr algorIthMSSS!!1! dON'T LeT theM get AWAY wiTH THIS!"

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@benjaminoechsli1941 Even better. They use anti-intel card on amd, cause overpriced for performance.

[@rogofos]

I love their narrative of this David and Goliath battle between massive AMD that somehow bought up all of the internet against this tiny intel considering you know that intel has ~66% market share and has higher earnings than AMD and Nvidia put together

[@Nilruin]

Only proving that Intel is a better manufacturer than AMD. Even if you look solely at CPU sales, Intel still wins. And it's not even a close battle, Intel encompasses, as you said, 66% of the market share for CPU use. It's double whatever AMD does. You can say that AMD CPU's perform better and are the going to be a staple in any high-end gaming rig, but you can't deny that Intel knows who their demographic is and knows how to make money by appealing to people on a budget. And you can't even say that the AMD chipsets are that much better, honestly. They're what, 5% on average? People compare Intel and AMD like they compare AMD to NVidia but those two comparisons are worlds apart. The difference between an AMD and NVidia GPU is like, 20-30% when you account for performance. There's a reason why Nvidia is 5x the market share of AMD, and there's also a reason why Intel hasn't been making GPU's for that long and is already almost at the market capitalization of AMD in that department. AMD can make the best CPU in the world. It doesn't matter. Intel will still be cheaper, and 95% as good. Gaming systems these days don't need better CPU's. You can run modern games on an i5 at 120+ FPS. AMD is like an autistic savant, but instead of being good at playing the piano or doing mathematics, they're the best in the world at reading books. It's like, not a useful skill to have and specializing in that one thing has made them objectively worse at everything else they do.

[@GraionDilach]

@@Nilruin What is this nonsense I just read? Sure, Ryzen doesn't have solutions for the absolute lower-end these days, but statements like "Intel will be cheaper" actually forgets how the Intel-AMD war was fought. AMD was winning back in P3-P4 era, since their systems were comparable in real world performances despite lower clock count. Also, during the Athlon II era when Intel introduced the iX branding over Pentium, AMD already was the king of the budget. AMD was just really bad with Bulldozer and kept carrying it around for too long despite it's failure, but the Bulldozer doesn't magically snap away all the history prior it. AMD made x64 after Intel tried to force Itanium into the PC market and the desktop/home userbase dismissed it, due to lack of legacy compatibility. Intel just came up with Hyper-Threading and that gave them the win for a LOT of years to come because AMD's answer to HT was just THAT bad. Intel is currently doing it's own Bulldozer run. They are stuck on a tech and can't really move forward. They were forced to pull the P/E-core hybrid architecture design to keep the race up against AMD on core count, because the P core is too power-hungry to build competing systems from it alone. The hybrid architecture also needed a lot of updates in the thread-schedulers of the OS, and caused a lot of compatibility issues wrt applications which attempt to schedule their own threads manually (this does include some games). Ryzen isn't really specialized and AMD isn't an "autistic savant". It was really that AMD lost a lot of trust with Bulldozer and that ensured Intel to strengthen their market position, something which cannot change within a day (like how major laptop lines only started to enroll AMD processors years after Ryzen even debuted). Sure, the X3D brand is gaming, but the Ryzen line is more oriented towards general-productivity from the start and actually turned out really solid in that role. And that's the thing, they just came up with a niche tech, applied it to their desktop workstation line and beat Intel outright... and then gave up on trying to beat Intel on the cost as well, since they have the performance justified outright. They didn't became "worse" at everything else they did, which is explicitly proven via they degrading their previous generation for budgets still remaining competitive. They already were better at everything else and this time managed to snatch the last crown as well.

[@Zenith_Star69]

​@@Nilruinare you one of the userbenchmark admins?

[@TRWhyped-]

probabbly@@Zenith_Star69

[@bucknasty69]

@@GraionDilach People seem to conveniently forget how AMD throughly kicked Intel’s ass in the Athlon/Pentium days.

[@allesarfint]

The worst part is they aren't even getting paid by intel, they are just that level of fanboys.

[@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub]

You think Intel would openly admit to sponsoring them?

[@TheNefastor]

​@@AbhishekKumar-vx9ubI think it's highly unlikely we'd ever know, so why speculate ?

[@FunnierK]

​@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub even intel banned them from the subreddit so..

[@homelesswizard3161]

Brainrot is strong with hardware fanboys. Why would you ever care about a brand, did said brand save your pregnant wife from a car accident ? Did it cure your cancer ? Did intel CEO pay for your education ? The only thing we should ever care about is the best product and value. And this applies to every company not just intel, Nvidia brainrot being the biggest out there.

[@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub]

@@homelesswizard3161 if one company gives me more vfm than the other I prefer them. Currently that's not nvidia

[@TheEclecticDyslexic]

The Intel cope is so strong I can't see.

[@lowlevelhaunt]

Userbenchmark on that addictive copium

[@NikTek]

I can feel the hatred

[@TheBURBAN111]

i can feel the 3600x from here.

[@toxicpyro4959]

All i can imagine is some dude hooked up to an Intel copium tank, writing this review on a computer running an Arc GPU.

[@technicalfool]

Ironically, Intel GPUs (at least for the A770) are actually surprisingly good. They may not be high-performing monsters, but they're a decent price compared to AMD and Nvidia, and don't need breeze-block aircoolers or waterblocks. CPU-wise on the other hand, yeah, not so much.

[@NikTek]

Honestly intel Arc is a solid choice but hating on amd doesn't seem right lol

[@MrPezsgess]

​@@NikTek I wanted an Arc but in my Country It's more expensive than AMD or Nvidia so I don't want to mess with drivers and stuff for a more expensive product.

[@fuel-pcbox]

@@MrPezsgess how the fuck lmao

[@nathangamble125]

@@technicalfool The performance of Arc is fine in _most_ games, and actually pretty good in some workstation tasks, but still way behind AMD and Nvidia in consistency and reliability. Too many games are still completely broken on Arc. An Arc A770 is *not* a decent price when the RX 6700 is the same price, more reliable, and much faster at pretty much everything.

[@solventob]

A lot of people in the comments talking about how the benchmarks come from thousands of reviews, and that no one is gonna go one by one changing them to be anti-AMD in userbenchmark. The benchmark software is developed for and owned by the site owner. It's not a 3rd party tool. The software can easily be made to spit out results that gimp any results at their will automatically.

[@NikTek]

PC Gamers should work on their critical thinking skills and Subscribe to my Channel XD

[@anonda737]

Alright, you got me

[@sharksizzle]

Robot narration says no

[@laxman.mshettigar7738]

PA CEE Gamers*

[@harrasika]

PahC gamers*

[@fabiotiburzi]

Above all subscribe to your channel

[@DarkSwordsman]

I thought this was a joke. I didn't realize UserBenchmark was actually like this. Holy crap.

[@tyrantworm7392]

Yeah, they have been for a long time. They are a pure joke site now.

[@ezecskornfan]

yeah, me too. It is such a waste.

[@PyroBlonde7777]

I've tried to warn people but it takes a while for stuff like this to catch on. Especially when gamers naturally favor Intel/Nvidia. The reality is that in gaming AMD has been dominating. My 6800XT is literally faster than a 4070 lol. RTX isn't even that big of a jump unless you're playing Cyberpunk. But the best part? AMD GPUs just run fast as is. You don't need to rely on DLSS, which degrades image quality.

[@powerdude_dk]

I'll recommend PassMark instead of those sad boys...

[@powerdude_dk]

​@@PyroBlonde7777yup, damn right. RX6000 and RX7000 is straight up better at DX11 AND 12 games than Nvidia. I've got an RX 6900 XT..... and BOY is it killing it!! And that's without FSR3.

[@aaronliddell450]

The benchmarks are more true than the mac studio beating the 3090

[@ryzenforce]

Unplug that laptop with the 3090 and yes it will beat it by a lot. Compare laptop to laptop, not laptop to desktop.

[@tubaeseries5705]

​@@ryzenforceMac studio is not a laptop

[@redequinox9874]

@@ryzenforce the new 4090 laptop easily beats the best mac in the world...

[@sleepy_szn]

​@@redequinox9874 definitely not at efficiency

[@DarthVader3DS]

KSP LES GO

[@elso19473]

At this point userbenchmark should be named "intelbenchmark"

[@lianchan3]

Meanwhile Intel's fan forgot about the 13600 pretend to be exactly the same with 13600k without overclock feature, but secretly cut down L2 cache in half.

[@MakeYourVision]

13500 is in fact 13600 but with 200MHz less TurboBoost and 30$ price

[@saricubra2867]

i7-12700K => i5-13600K > i5-13600

[@lianchan3]

@@saricubra2867 13600k > 12700k in every aspect.

[@subhadeeppodder]

​@@saricubra2867lol.i5 13600k is faster than 12gen i9 in gaming

[@saricubra2867]

@@subhadeeppodder It's the i7-13700K that beats the 12900K, not the i5.

[@MexulTV]

I would encourage you guys to also read their review for the 5800x3D 🤣

[@Tenmo8life]

Its the same review ._.

[@saricubra2867]

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D kinda sucks for the price. Destroyed by my Core i7-12700K. Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXdmX1-gqqsibcm43s

[@saricubra2867]

Ryzen 7 5800X3D kinda sucks for the price. Destroyed by the i7-12700K, i5-13600K, even the Ryzen 9 5900X can win on games (higher 3D mark scores).

[@MetaDude]

​@@saricubra2867 its a solid upgrade path for am4

[@Jimster481]

​@@saricubra2867 it's actually pretty damn amazing. If you actually play games that are accelerated by 3d V-cache then even 13th gen Intel cannot keep up with it. Games like Hots or dota are so insanely accelerated that even heavy oc 13th Gen parts can only hope to come close.

[@ars731]

You know your site is an joke when Linus Tech Tips is mocking you. They might as well be an Intel owned site.

[@alphenhousplaysgames4565]

as if intel needs biased opinions in their life. they aren't apple.

[@Tn5421Me]

Even Intel doesn't like them I think

[@alphenhousplaysgames4565]

@@Tn5421Me they don't. intel banned them from intel reddit.

[@NathanPlays395]

Intel banned them on their own forums

[@shaansingh6048]

even Intel is not as biased towards themselves 💀 it’s like Intel is Justin Bieber and whoever runs Userbenchmark is a teenage girl from 2011.

[@placeholder3853]

Even though I recently got an Intel CPU, upsetting Userbenchmark by going with AMD made the choice a close one

[@Yellowredstone]

For my first build I went double AMD on the CPU and GPU. Not because they were better, but because I was new to the space and I've never heard of AMD in my life. It has always been Intel. Next build i may go Intel and Nvidia, but depending on if Nvidia will keep their greedy ass prices up I'll just go AMD GPU again.

[@jemborg]

​@@NittlepickGamingHDdo you mean biased _against_ AMD?

[@NikTek]

Ultimately, the best CPU for someone depends on their specific needs and preferences, I don't hate on Intel nor AMD. But pushing down on one company when it releases a solid product just doesn't seem right

[@EllySensei]

@OpenYourMind "towards" is positive "Against" is negative

[@jemborg]

@@NittlepickGamingHD ?

[@yianniskouros1060]

Product summary for an AMD budget CPU be like: "While this $200 CPU is very good value for it's price, SERIOUS GAMERS and ADULTS should instead consider this $600 Intel CPU for its higher performance" Product summary for an AMD flagship CPU be like: While this $600 CPU has some of the best performance metrics out there, SERIOUS GAMERS and ADULTS should instead consider this $200 Intel CPU for its better value"

[@leonardoariewibowo1325]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@generalrubbish9513]

When an AMD CPU has better multi-core performance than its Intel equivalent: "You can't just slap more cores into a processor and call it better! Single-core performance makes all the difference!" When an AMD CPU has better single-core performance than its Intel equivalent: "What is this, 2005? What's the point in paying extra for better single-core performance when we have multithreading to share the load?"

[@miketrandesign]

It amazes me that UB still exists. If they're so quick to dismiss "sponsored reviews" why don't they create a video and run benchmarks to show if their numbers reflect what they post on their website. Quite frankly, anyone can make up numbers and "cherry pick" games including themselves. Why should gamers believe them over someone who actually records and posts testing results on youtube? UB is trash, I hope no one falls for their bias takes.

[@joemarais7683]

Fun fact, they do have videos and do run the benchmarks, which do match what they say. However, if you attempt to find pertinent info like what each test system is actually composed of, the exact testing methodology for the benchmarks and most importantly if the two benchmarks they show side to side are exactly the same, you find nothing. That gets even more fun if you pixel peek and notice that comparison runs almost never look the same in graphical quality, but I’m sure they’d chalk that up to AMD marketing.

[@pz.vitiger6396]

The fact they're becoming aggressive is just showing they know people see through their bs 😂

[@The.Frumious.Bandersnatch]

This is always my favorite part of an AMD launch. The new bullshit UserBenchmark comes with every related review is astounding and meticulously duplicitous. It’s quite admirable for them to remain so consistent over the years.

[@duccc]

resilient? yes, but consistent? they even changed their own benchmark metrics to make AMD looks bad lol

[@dylan.dog1]

they copy-paste that BS on every amd cpu

[@frequentfrenzied]

Reminds me of the quote about always accusing your enemies of doing exactly what you don't want the public to find out that you are doing. I believe they call that confession through projection.

[@chris6ix.]

At this point they are not even trying to hide their huge bias anymore xD

[@PFbigfan447]

they havent for the past 2+ years.

[@koreannom]

It's a kind of a breath of fresh air with how consistent they are xD Most people would take a step back after being mocked this much, but nah these guys doubling down.

[@crazycoffee]

Recently upgraded my Ryzen 7 2700 to a 5700x i got for 170 on sale. Been very happy. Looking at Intel pricing in general made me go Ryzen initially. I'm very happy with it

[@justwatching2008]

No way! No way this can be real!! Update: Oh my god!! 🤣

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

Just like one wise person said, Userbenchmark is April 1st that never ends.

[@BluD]

Its a shame how many people end up looking at user benchmark and dont realize this bias.

[@DJgeekman]

Maybe because poeple like me never read those selling text... I mean they're not Data so why bother... And on Data front I have proof that people that cry so much bias here never read those Data... because its kinda equaly distributed between amd ans intel if you compare Data with market price (price on bench are always wrong)

[@BluD]

@@DJgeekman the data isn't to be trusted either since it's skewed to put amd at a disadvantage.

[@Ast0sH]

I'm genuinely interrogating if UB progressively turned into Troll site actually making fakes reviews for clic bait and clout or not... I've kinda see this before in other industries when an already existing well known journalist or reviewer start to troll and do bad reviews only to expand their visibility and get more money behind that

[@NikTek]

It's certainly possible for a review website to prioritize clicks and views over impartiality and accuracy, particularly if they are trying to gain attention and expand their audience. However, I believe that this would ultimately undermine the credibility of the website, and harm the trust that consumers place in their reviews.

[@Ast0sH]

@@NikTek i think too but at the end of the day most people aren't awaer of that and they know it and most people aware just don't use their site anyway, so i could see why it get like this

[@xXYannuschXx]

@@NikTek Its not only that. Many people sadly fall for this site, had a few coworkers who told me that the AMD CPUs arent so good. When I asked them if they read it on UB, they all said yes. Imagine the look on their faces when I showed them dozens of sites stating the exact opposite. UB sadly used to come up as the first search result, when you type in "CPU A vs CPU B benchmark" in Google.

[@Voidkitty_]

I am now convinced that userbenchmarks is satire and they're playing us for fools

[@Joker-no1fz]

GIVE ME THE POSSY GAMERS.

[@NikTek]

Lool XD

[@Joker-no1fz]

@@NikTek lol

[@A_ARAFAT]

Was "lol"ing hard when i heard that

[@Joker-no1fz]

@@A_ARAFAT same. thats why i commented it.

[@xXYannuschXx]

Remember that this site even got banned on the Intel subreddit.

[@jimtekkit]

The statement that really floored me is on their About page: "We are an independent team of scientists and engineers." Associating themselves (himself? itself?) with real, degree-qualified professionals (who have real ethics, morals, experience and intelligence) is the height of douche-baggery.

[@mechadeka]

"I'm something of a scientist myself."

[@zchen27]

"Independent" does not imply "not schizophrenic"

[@Tuxedo512]

thanks userbenchmark for giving me the nudge I needed to move to am5 and pick up an 7800x3d when it releases 🙂👍

[@Angel7black]

I mean, that IS the none none retarded version of the X3D lineup to buy. Nobody should buy the R9 variants.

[@NikTek]

best site ever

[@arceuspokemon7545]

No one asked

[@theftking]

I read a GPUPro (this admin of UserBenchmark who hates AMD) review recently of a 3070 Ti. They spent most of the review complaining about AMD's marketing and talking about how Intel's CPUs are better. In a 3070 Ti review. At this point I suspect they invested a crap ton into Intel on margin and are down a ton of money. This isn't just fanboyism; they _must_ have a financial interest in Intel stock going up.

[@robertobokarev439]

That's a damn good and unpopular point dude, I more than agree with you!

[@submarinefeline9045]

Don’t believe everyone, believe only me

[@Criteon]

lmao!

[@Peeper117]

I love how it went from talking about the cpu to there opinion

[@d9zirable]

it gets better, for the 13600k description they talk about Radeon

[@Peeper117]

@@d9zirable LMAOOOOO

[@frieza1016]

@@d9zirable just checked, it is fucking true... why are they talking about a GPU market share on a """""""""""""CPU review"""""""""""""""", i have no darn idea...

[@mr.ballstone1914]

Literally every single review they always end up talking about how bad amd is on both intel and AMD reviews

[@Volker_A4]

I ain't swapping my motherboard every upgrade, lol.

[@tardvandecluntproductions1278]

I am, I just upgrade every 8 years or so. Buying a CPU that will last you a while isn't hard.

[@Xirpzy]

Must be annoying installing software every year for 5fps upgrade.

[@Volker_A4]

@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 I'm sure doing nothing is very easy.

[@3DModelsToys]

and RAM too.

[@joemarais7683]

@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 it’s hard if you can only afford i5s. No way anyone could use a 3470 up until 12th gen if they also intended to play games or do more than web browse without crazy bottlenecks. Can’t exactly tell people “it’s easy to not upgrade if you just spend $600 on your cpu instead of $200”

[@od13166]

cant wait they recommend celeron over 7950X3D

[@yubrandomain]

I took my 14900k out and put a 7800x3D in. Facts are facts. Best gaming chip.

[@Richter8]

1:02 Bro did Seto Kiba write this review?

[@NarutoUzumaki-ej7vw]

OMG THE MALD im fucking crying

[@TBCMV]

I am NOT buying the 7900 or 7950 X3D ...But I am definitely buying the $449 7800X3D and into a new and in the future upgradable platform. My RTX 4090 [and aging Intel 7700K] demands it.

[@CURTSNIPER]

kabt lake ftw

[@GregoryShtevensh]

​@@CURTSNIPERas Barry Kripky would say "yeah, for the woser"

[@CURTSNIPER]

@@GregoryShtevensh for its own time, it was good. a 2016 chip, it's just that was my first cpu that i feel some reminiscence for with my first build

[@MINIMAN10000]

I've never really understood the "upgradable platform thing" By the time I feel the need to buy a new computer the motherboard is already out of date. The option is nice and all and I do give it weight. But I know deep down it means nothing to me.

[@Ilestun]

@@MINIMAN10000 its nice for those who started with the ryzen 1600 to get a 5800x3D upgrade today.......

[@Porsche.Panamera.]

that comment sounded so fake that i had to check if it was even true, dude poured his heart and soul into writing that literal essay about how intel is better 💀

[@QuantumS1ngularity]

I caught that few months back, when i was testing a rig i built for a client of mine with 13700k against my rig with 5800X3D (GPU and memory exactly the same) and somehow his rig was "faster", even though in every single game i tested, it was about 20% behind the X3D. In ACC it was total annihilation.

[@tyrantworm7392]

ACC is a bit of an outlier in it's requirement for L3, I wonder if the move to a bespoke engine for AC2 will carry this over (probably not as I know Kunos pretty much hated working in UE4). UserBenchmark has been a farce for as long as Ryzen has been around unfortunately.

[@white_mask13]

The Copium hits read hard.

[@DivusMagus]

I love when they review the consumer base instead of the actual product.

[@milesfarber]

Always remember, if an AMD part defeats an Intel/Nvidia part in userbenchmark, then it has a 100% chance of doing the same IRL.

[@DosonTheGreat]

I get so excited about a new AMD product launch, particularly CPUs, because the userbenchmark reviews are always hilarious.

[@TDP808]

Videos showing their benchmarking software vs 3rd party with their own ranking system should be tested. The suite they use is low-key 90s level tests, with old instruction sets that favor older architecture. Shining a light on this vs OCCT/AIDA/PCmark would be great!

[@aegisstari1494]

I am 100% getting that 7950x3d next month. I have the 3950x and the 5950x, time to add to the family.

[@obnoxioustermite7932]

You should let go of the 5950x :/

[@aegisstari1494]

@@obnoxioustermite7932 Why? Its a really really really good cpu, probably the best on Am4 for work and gaming.

[@obnoxioustermite7932]

@@aegisstari1494 Cause I'm in need of it lol

[@McLoven-vm1ck]

As I'm preparing to do a new build to replace an aging box I've been doing a lot of research on what's available and from what I've been seeing, the frame stalls due to how the core docking and cache works on the 7950x3D is very real. Those in the know are suggesting everyone wait on the 7800X3d and see how it does.

[@ripyep3171]

What motherboard DDR5 is good for an AMD processor 7950x ? Need to change from Intel to AMD.. fucked up a bit on the research.. got a i9 12900k instead.. not bad but still...

[@DJBillionator]

As Intel bombs. This is not aging well.

[@DJBillionator]

Gotta pin this one. lol

[@JFK-ic6vp]

​@@DJBillionatorhell no

[@DJBillionator]

@@JFK-ic6vp AMD for life! lmao

[@DJBillionator]

Leaks reporting the intel update will not fix the issue. And, i'm still not pinned. Glory to intel much?

[@MrBeast1901]

​@@DJBillionatorpin these nuts

[@jameysummers1577]

What's funny is that CPU Pro On Userbench has a lot to say about AMD chips and GPUs, but when Intel releases Arc GPUs that are a disaster, Userbench has NOTHING to say at all.

[@Nilruin]

What's funny is that every AMD fanboy shuts up when the topic of GPU's come up because AMD GPU's are dogshit and there's only one GPU company that smashes everyone else on the market every single time so it isn't even a competition. I don't even need to say their name because anyone reading this knows exactly which manufacturer I'm talking about.

[@Tn5421Me]

​@@Nilruindunno what you're talking about my amd GPU world just fine

[@aightm8]

​@@Nilruinby what metric are AMD GPUs bad? They give higher frames for a lower price. And they have more vram so last longer. I have a 3080 10GB. If I had a 6900 or 6950 instead they would last 3 more years

[@mountainjews]

@@Nilruin lmao the cope is insane

[@chuzzle44]

I'm so glad I saw this, thank you. Somehow, this is the first time I've ever heard anything about Userbenchmark's bias against AMD. I had noticed that the top end leaned towards Intel, but I chalked this up to benchmarks being averaged across a larger install base, and Intel redlining their chips to compete with AMD, which made sense considering the significantly higher power draw.

[@Isaiiahii]

Many people have made good videos showing how UBM has an extreme bias towards Intel and has for many years. Just search 'Userbenchmark intel bias' on KZbin and you'll find some good ones.

[@waldotheranger3987]

It always makes me smile when I see memes spreading the truth to people who need to hear it and, not spreading blatant and potentially malicious misinformation You win some you lose some I guess...

[@Anonymous-qb4vc]

@@waldotheranger3987 most people here are example of dunning-kruger effect including you

[@fa14bi-78]

@@Anonymous-qb4vc may you Elaborate what that is?

[@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub]

They are still there top 4/5 results when you Google CPUs. I'm pretty sure UB has cost AMD millions upon millions of dollars

[@metroided34]

Undermenchmark was one of the main reasons i went full team red.

[@PinHeadSupliciumwtf]

Don't go "team" anything. If anything team "informed consumer choice depending on personal need and disposable income".

[@X_irtz]

@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf That i agree with. Being neutral towarda both companies is the way to go, after all they don't care whether you like one over the other or not, they just want your money at the end of the day.

[@youwotmate7705]

@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf It’s good to be unbiased, but I feel like parts consistency is pretty important too no?

[@metroided34]

@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf i feel like i should explain my posture a bit more, indeed originally i went AMD out of spite for Intels mediocre offerings in the early days of Ryzen gen 1 and Userbenchmark grossly biased reviews, but i found myself really enjoying my purchase and eventually i just started getting more amd products, fron where i am both intel and nvidia prices for their hardware are just off the roof.

[@NikTek]

My logo is Red, my CPU is red... maybe I am an AMD fanboy

[@J3assbox]

I couldnt belive the text was real, until i looked it up by mylself .__.

[@The_Man_In_Red]

Ah yes, Userbenchmark. A veritable pot of gold if you're looking for meme tier shitposting. The word choices and emotional conveyance is really some of the most top-notch stuff on the interwebz. You'll swear you taste salt in your mouth as you're reading.

[@madcats3172]

im rocking a ryzen 7 5800X3D and its so good. Im running tarkov on high settings with 100+ fps and for the non tarkov players, its really good. I also run BF2042 at almost max settings and i get around 120fps. Running a rtx 3060, ryzen 7 5800X3D and 32gb ddr4 3200mhz ram.

[@boanerges5723]

Userbenchmarks reads like someone that didnt get picked up when AMD and ATi merged. Salty

[@Farie977]

When I was looking over old Ryzen 1xxx listings to upgrade my PC to (I was using an Ivy Bridge i5 back then), I looked at the benchmark numbers at UserBenchmark. I was stuck between trusting UserBenchmark or my gut feelings. Needless to say, my gut feelings was correct, and now I'm using a Ryzen 5 1500x, and will be upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 next.

[@slimjimjimslim5923]

I'm going to be honest, initially the heavy breathing in the video as it scrolls down to look for Ryzen chip, I thought you were mocking AMD fans. XD @0:15

[@monkeslayer-km5ho]

I got scammed by this website when I wanted to build my first pc in 2019 I should get the 200ge but no... Instead I got pentium g4560 (no upgrade path) Good news is I retired the pentium & now I'm using i3 12100f

[@pf100andahalf]

I remember when they talked about how great 11th gen intel was and how bad ryzen was. How do they continue this website at a level where it's so popular with such obvious bullshit articles? I don't get it.

[@larion2336]

They are good at SEO and little else.

[@reijhinru1474]

This site is so popular because of the Intel fanboys.

[@Born_Stellar]

same reason canada has trudeau and US has biden. idiots. idiots everywhere.

[@niezzayt3809]

Even more hilarious that Core Ultra 285K still slower than everything in this video

[@ernestkhalimov9368]

This is a Certified Userbenchmark moment.

[@JustAGenericGamer]

Also don't forget the 7000x3d CPUs consume a lot less electricity than their Intel counterparts. Part of the reason I am sticking with AMD is because they sip power compared to the insanity of the 13900k and other Intel CPUs. If I switched to Intel, the extra 200 watts power draw would trip the breaker for the electrical circuit my PC is on since I am already at the limit of my 15A circuit.

[@jcl6100]

Bro fr

[@BronzeDragon133]

This, too. Power prices doubled in my area this year. Moving from my old PC to my new one will only shift from 90 W to... 120 W. For far more computing power. The Intel chips eat power for breakfast and want more, more, more.

[@jcl6100]

@@BronzeDragon133 yeh less power draw and runs cooler it so much bettet i use air cooler for a 7950x3d 💀 doesnt go over 64 C too even when gaming, download LoL to test with 3900x and and identical gpu (regular rtx 2070) = 180-240 fps range With the new cpu between 550-800fps 🤯

[@JustAGenericGamer]

@@BronzeDragon133 The point you make is very valid, especially for people unlucky enough to be stuck in an area where for-profit electrical companies still exist. I'm lucky to have municipal electricity where I am in California, so I only pay $0.14/kWh peak compared to PG&E price of $0.49/kWh peak. Even my peak pricing is half of PG&Es lowest pricing of $0.29/kWh during Winter season for limited amount of energy (PG&E charges more depending on the amount of electricity you use, their tiering system is total BS too as any normal person easily goes over).

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@JustAGenericGamer Oddly, I have some of the cheapest for-profit in the nation at $0.15. Still, we try to limit it just because a third of our power is coal (two-thirds is renewable, mostly hydro).

[@Daniel_Fcz.]

When you're on your third canister of compressed copium by 1100 hours and it's still not enough.

[@silverwatchdog]

Well at least they don't even appear on the first page anymore when you search for CPU reviews.

[@Xenex1]

Oh...so, according to this site, it's not worth upgrading to r7 5800x from i5 2400 3810mhz just because is Intel?

[@The_Man_In_Red]

Bro the Core 2 Duo e7500 is like.... 50 quintillion times faster than the R7 5800X, so an i5 2400 will easily allow you to launch into space if you wanted. There's just no comparison to an i5 locked chip running at low clocks. Rekt or get rekt and AMD better watch out.

[@himekomurata72]

One year later, 13th and 14th gen cpus are literally killing itself 😂

[@niezzayt3809]

Gotta love Himeko Murata Made some videos about Vermilion Knight

[@CrocoDylianVT]

At this point I trust no benchmark websites I saw according to their site the Ryzen 5 5500 was better than my current i7-4790K, but given how Intel diehard fans they are the difference probably is actually even bigger

[@EthanH1]

If these clowns say and AMD CPU beats an Intel one, you can bet that it absolutely destroys it. 🤣

[@adridell]

Honestly anything today beats the i7-4790k 😛, it's a very old 4 cores cpu, it bottlenecks me on almost every game, doesn't mean I have bad performance, only on very cpu intensive ones it start to be unplayable.

[@CrocoDylianVT]

@@adridell yes but knowing how Intel was from their 4th gen till 9th gen I bet you anything yeah beats the 4790K, as long as it ain't intel too LMAO

[@hugo-garcia]

More cache is not just about current performance but also future cause is a future proof that your CPU will last much longer with higher framerates even many years later

[@_GhostMiner]

*A userbenchmark editor when they play a multiplayer game and get put on the RED team:* 👱‍♂️ 🔫

[@lazylemymaitland6996]

This aged well

[@Adromelk]

I'm just here to remind everyone that UBM was banned even from the intel fanboy reddits. 😂

[@AReallyBuffLlama]

I had no idea about all this man. Will never use UserBenchmark again.

[@_GhostMiner]

User benchmark would rather sell you the worst Celeron than the best Ryzen.

[@theburger_king]

I can’t believe Linus would lie to us

[@dssd7685]

Linus?

[@IvanFazekas]

@@dssd7685 Linus Tech Tips - a popular Tech KZbin guy

[@dssd7685]

@@IvanFazekas I know but what does Linus have to do with userbenchmar or lie?

[@dssd7685]

@@IvanFazekas just confused by his comment lol

[@IvanFazekas]

@@dssd7685 ohhh I see I see

[@billwhoever2830]

OMG it is real, you cant make shit like this up, this is why Im subscribed

[@Alex1710XVII]

TBF the 13600K is great value and there's an insane amount of people on forums recommending AMD over nVidia when it comes to GPUs, as if the feature set was no consideration.

[@Felale]

Same with AMD CPUs over Intel. Gamers ignoring productivity and general system responsiveness with the latency issues and recommending AMD with cherry picked gaming benchmarks.

[@Norim_]

There's not a single feature that's worth getting a lower tier gpu for.

[@Faruq-xn4gj]

UserBenchmark the April Fool that never end

[@tncshindiru2663]

Honestly i always felt like it’s full of shit, how does it think that the i5 13600K is better than the ryzen 9 7950x3D? And it also believes that the 4070Ti performs better than the 3090Ti.

[@Vex22778]

The 4070 TI does perform better than the 3090 TI though or at least on level but yes, they hate AMD for no reason

[@sobari745]

All jokes aside, Userbenchmarks blatant claims of AMD paying reviewers, combined with the fact that their website is very much prominent enough in search results to be taken seriously by the average consumer, means that they’re 100% eligible to be sued for defamation (and would lose horribly).

[@reinhardtwilhelm5415]

UserBenchmark is a cesspool of a site, with data that is nonsensical even by their own egregiously biased standards. That being said, their argument that the vast majority of people shouldn’t buy anything above the i5-13600K for gaming is completely correct… and then they immediately imply it’s faster than the 7950X3D. What a jarring broken clock moment that was.