Ushiro Mawashi Geri (Spinning Hook Kick) | Full Contact Karate

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@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed this video it would mean a lot if you subscribed and checked out the other (similar) videos also! 🤩 OSU!
@frodokhunt
@frodokhunt 3 жыл бұрын
I love using this kick in muay thai if you feint a hook , gonna start practising multiple in a row though now ! 🙏
@masterkicks7753
@masterkicks7753 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfull video and channel! Do you have IG?
@mixck
@mixck 3 жыл бұрын
@@frodokhunt Especially because Thai boxers don't expect this kick often
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
@@masterkicks7753 Thank you! Not yet but will create one in a few weeks! :-)
@tjbjjtkd
@tjbjjtkd 3 жыл бұрын
The kick can sometimes be very predictable if used offensively, but I personally think it works better as a counter. Good video BTW.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this kick works very well on the counter as well :-) To use it offensively, it's best to use against opponents who are circling away from your power side IMO, or as a part of a combination. Thank you!
@kingkai9818
@kingkai9818 3 жыл бұрын
It'll work better after ur opponent is tired and has his hands lower than usual. I used to bust this out on tournaments towards the end of rounds
@johnnykage3903
@johnnykage3903 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite way to use it was to get him used to a bunch of linear attacks, then I start moving more and more laterally between strikes to lull him in and then launch it as he moves into range as he’s coming in by moving right and forward: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5OohWuknqeCnsU
@ltvprmnms
@ltvprmnms 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, these tutorials have so much potential. It's very clear, simple and well explained. Perfection of Kyokushin karate brought to my home. Thank you.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate those kind words 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Osu!
@asierurteaga1227
@asierurteaga1227 2 жыл бұрын
Shorinji Kempo, i think
@michaelr2862
@michaelr2862 Жыл бұрын
This kick is famous in Martial Arts!
@tokenstandpoint93
@tokenstandpoint93 3 жыл бұрын
Pulling off this kick is my goal by 2nd or 1st kyu. Hopefully I can get my flexibility up to the point where I can do it!
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it! 👊 In the meantime you can start to master the motion itself at chudan/body level :-)
@jcreed09
@jcreed09 3 жыл бұрын
Old school tournaments back in the 1960s, the Japanese stylist didn't do Spinning Kicks, did front kicks, side kicks, back kicks and other than the roundhouse aimed at the head, they kept their kicks aimed at the mid-section. The Korean stylist who popularized the high kicks- spinning hooks, tornado kicks, etc. Chuck Norris edge was his spinning back/spinning hook kick.
@bongkem2723
@bongkem2723 3 жыл бұрын
one of the hardest kick to get right (not leaning forward/backward), nice tut man !!
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Means a lot! :)
@panstrat916
@panstrat916 3 жыл бұрын
Spinning kick from the back foot is risky. From fighting stance it is practical and fast, only if opponent tries to escape your central line , from the side where your rear foot is. How do you use it if opponent escapes from the other side? Your technique is nice. We use this kick in capoeira and its called "Armada". Must be very careful for take down( "rasteira" )when using it. Rasteira on armada, can find you floating in the air with enough time to think what you did wrong, before landing on your ass.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
There *are* certain ways to use this kick when your opponent circles the opposite direction, but they're generally a lot more flashy - and rely on your opponent moving away from you rather than closing the distance while circling. That kind of kick fills a similar role to a standard rear leg roundhouse kick (since the trajectory and target is the same), which is the safer and better option most of the time. If you want to hide it more, a question mark kick works great. Capoeira is sweet! 👊 Thank you for your comment!
@JN-hg5wn
@JN-hg5wn 2 жыл бұрын
Wow so fluid, so superfast. Really awesome! Will start with Karate in the autumn. Been a longtime dream of mine, and now Finaly I will do it! About damn time, before im getting to old, as im over 50 years allready - man where do the years go!
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 2 жыл бұрын
That’s really great!! 👊🏼 osu
@JN-hg5wn
@JN-hg5wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate Thanks buddy, and im sure I definetly aint to old huh. Pretty young still I feel 👍 Battling between Kyokushin or Shotokan - as I have then both pretty close! I know how fluid Shotokan is. More so then Kyokushin thats more kind of grind right? So what do you recomend for seldefense.. I know all says different things, and that Kyokushin is full contact = much better. But to fight smart, well if one ever have to defend emself. Aint Shotokan better suited, as one learn more about keeping the distance, and the kicks/punches come s in faster - more straight on vs Kyokushin? Or im I totaly wrong there ? 🤔 Thank you for the awesome videos guys. Will happily follow you! Ozu 😎
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 2 жыл бұрын
@@JN-hg5wn I think Kyokushin stands out in two different areas, one is learning how to strike and handle getting struck at full contact - without gloves or other equipment. This is of course an invaluable thing in self-defense. The other is learning to keep composure under high pressure at close range, which is where a self-defense situation is most likely to take place. Lack of head punches is a thing to consider but what most people forget is that the dynamics of head punching with gloves and handwraps is a fundamentally different thing from bareknuckle and barewrist. However it's still a good idea to get a feel for how it is to get a feel for how it is to have hand strikes flying at your face. Shotokan is a nice martial art with plenty of good aspects, like you say they are good at timing strikes from the long range, covering a lot of distance linearly etc. I would say one of the biggest things that hurts it is the lack of strategy for how to follow up after those long range attacks. In reality you often don't end an altercation with a single strike, and for a martial art that relies so much on the long range(which is unlikely you'll have the privilege to start from), to not have strategies to disengage or deal with the short range, is a pretty big hole. Regardless, most important is you enjoy the training so why not give them both a try? Thanks for your good feedback and comments!
@JN-hg5wn
@JN-hg5wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate Oh man you floor me again, this time with words. I have never seen such a great explanation of it all. It really makes sense, and I totaly agree about all you said - you made it so chystal clear. Thanks a million Sir 👍 Now I have a much better grasp of it all, and I can really understand how important that Kyokushin mentality is, and learn to how it feels getting a punch. And IRL as you said,most often if one is attacked it happens fast and upclose. So Kyokushin must be awesome, and for many years I was dead set on it - well im a fan of Dolph Lundgreen since a ikd 🙄😁 But why not try them both - good idea and I may well do so! Thanks again. You gave me much to think of here! Take care and Ozu!!
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 2 жыл бұрын
@@JN-hg5wn Osu good luck to you!🙏😄
@santiagovasquez4031
@santiagovasquez4031 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 👊🏼
@justsomebird4285
@justsomebird4285 3 жыл бұрын
Short, sweet simple video. Creator responding to basically like every comment here. Good stuff. I subscribe
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice comment and for subscribing as well 🥳
@prvtthd401
@prvtthd401 3 жыл бұрын
I want to have an infinite loop of that kick of yours. It is so satisfying.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
😂 Thank you! I’ve never tried how many of these I can do in a row. Must give that a try some day.
@Docinaplane
@Docinaplane 3 жыл бұрын
I could do any kick with ease back in the day, but now, this one is quite challenging. I'll try your way. I know I am trying to do the impossible, but I try anyway. :-)
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is impossible! It might take some time to achieve perfection but there is no rush! Just keep practicing and remember to have fun while doing it :)
@rsrs6959
@rsrs6959 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate That's great advice in general for anything in life. Thank you for motivating. God bless 🙏🙏
@TrainKarateWithShelley
@TrainKarateWithShelley 3 жыл бұрын
Such awesome skill. Keep on the spirit. Lets spread the wonderful life of Karate Globally. Very Amazing job!! Kudos
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
OSU👊🏼
@通りすがり通りすがり-b9h
@通りすがり通りすがり-b9h 3 жыл бұрын
英語圏を対象に公開されてるのですね。英文コメントが殆どです。 自分は若い頃、フルコン空手を少し稽古したのですが、後ろ回し蹴りは好きだったのでよく練習しました。 その当時、ITFテコンドーの後ろ回し蹴りも参考にしたのですが、今回この動画を拝見して、お伝えすると役に立つかもしれない?と思い当たるものがあるので、以下に記してみます。(ご存知の事でしたら、差し出がましく申し訳ありません) 回りながら蹴り足の膝を伸ばし…標的に当てる直前に、伸ばしから畳み→振り切る、そのインパクトの瞬間にタイミングを合わせて、 →「上体を相手・標的とは反対方向に、切れ良くグッと引く・倒す」   これを加えると、インパクトの切れ・威力が増します。  何回転も連続して空蹴りするときには、これは蹴り終えから元の姿勢に戻るのに少しラグが加わりますが、一発の威力は増します。 また、 ・振り切ったあとの蹴り足に、身体が振り回されない、 ・振り切ったあとの蹴り足を、すぐコントロール出来る体勢になる、   …というのもメリットです。 デメリットは、 ・上体を倒すぶん、空振りした際に、再び上体を起こす必要が生じるので、構えに戻るのは少し遅くなる、    …というものもあります。 このコツは、ITFテコンドーの他にも、英国の極真の強豪だったマイケル・トンプソンも、似たものを用いてました。 マイケル・トンプソンの場合、上体を引く・倒す際、同時に肩を入れるという動作も伴ってます。(右足で蹴る場合は右肩です) マイケル・トンプソンの他にも、同様の肩の入れ方をする選手は黒人の選手に見られた事が記憶に残ってます。↙ (アメリカのキックボクサー、マンソン・ギブソンや、 カナダのテコンドー選手、ピア・ゲネットなど。) 以上でした。失礼しました。 因みに自分はもういい歳のオヤジで、空手の稽古から離れて久しくもあり、今はもう高い蹴りは出来ないです。
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
いいコメントです。確かに、この蹴りの全部についてを教えてあげたかったら、20分の動画を作らなければなりません。この動画のポイントはほとんど他の動画が説明しないポイントです。それ以外に詳しくはないのです。 コメントをありがとうございます。
@davecollins9075
@davecollins9075 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davecollins9075
@davecollins9075 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate to be honest I love the moves and flow of judoka and mastery of throws. Your mastery of attack is very ultimate and agressive and possibly lethal. Each to their own.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
@@davecollins9075 Judo is great, my first martial art! :-) Thank you for the nice comment! 👊
@goukhanakul
@goukhanakul 3 жыл бұрын
I use dominant right hand forward jab, left hook head or body then up back right elbow then come around with left hook kick rotation out or sometime faint the right back elbow then hook kick with faster rotation on the half beat
@goukhanakul
@goukhanakul 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the distribution correction i needed i still need to work on that! To much velocity leaving me open to counters
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 3 жыл бұрын
going up against a spinning kick is tough. The power from the heel all the way to the inner circle where the torso spins can catch someone who attacks forward. Better to get out of the way of that power.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! If you land that kick it can really be devastating for the opponent.
@Gauntlets
@Gauntlets 3 жыл бұрын
Flexibility is a must! I remember I could do dis kick wit somewhat limited flexibility, but then I discovered how inflexible I was! Now, I can kinda do dis kick wit significant height, but... I feel a little pain in da adductors; particularly my right leg.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Without the flexibility this kick can be a little tricky, especially if you are going for the head! Just keep practicing and stretching and you will reach your goals :)
@김갈리
@김갈리 3 жыл бұрын
Osu. perform the axe kick too! Its my favorite move.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
I shall in the future 👊🏼
@DiineeAdam
@DiineeAdam Жыл бұрын
Wow
@nitinsuresh1830
@nitinsuresh1830 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@louisekenway3455
@louisekenway3455 3 жыл бұрын
Keep making videos mate I look forward on seeing this channel grow Also I just subscribed to you
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, truly appreciate it!🙏🏻👊🏼
@meandyou2046
@meandyou2046 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this. Why not.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 2 жыл бұрын
👊🏼
@Brucelee-pv6uf
@Brucelee-pv6uf 3 жыл бұрын
0:08 I watched and studied this more than million time
@krisnasutanandika5665
@krisnasutanandika5665 3 жыл бұрын
In taekwondo we called this kick as Dwi Momdollyo huryeo chagi
@Halimhacks
@Halimhacks Ай бұрын
What is the background sound used?
@darmasantri7879
@darmasantri7879 3 жыл бұрын
Thank's
@edgarloeb422
@edgarloeb422 3 жыл бұрын
Lol excellent technique and application!
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙏🏻
@Artahe
@Artahe 3 жыл бұрын
Oh now I see my first mistake: I was trying to see over my shoulder. All it did was making me dizzy. Now, I need to work on my flexibility because i can't lift higher than thigh high lol
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
That’s probably the most common mistake with this kick! Glad you were able to correct it 🙏🏻
@Positivelifeacademy
@Positivelifeacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed you are awesome
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
@alexsandergaray5768
@alexsandergaray5768 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente
@romuloambay9624
@romuloambay9624 3 жыл бұрын
no one can do this better than the great bruce lee. .he executed it with great precision, power, art and control combined. .in traditional chinese it is known as dragon whipping its tail or simply reverse hook kick. .he was first seen did it in the big boss. .and the world was very shocked to witness that this kind of kick existed and feasible in the martial art world. .traditional karate doesnt have this kind of kick. .it was nowhere to be seen in mas oyama's books "what is karate" and "this is karate". .although in china it is much more common to the practitioner of northern shaolin temple boxing. .bruce was simply credited to having first introduced it to the western world without prejudiced . .
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
This kick exists in Oyama Sosai’s own personally created kata “Garyu”.
@grayalun
@grayalun 3 жыл бұрын
I train ITF Taekwondo abd I struggle with speed with this kick I can get good power though. In Taekwondo they do reverse turning kick as well which is similar but where the leg stays straight, does karate have the same given that Taekwondo came from Karate.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
A good way to speed up these kicks is by starting off this technique from your upper body, using your arms to coil your torso resulting in speeding up the rest of your body naturally when you start the kick. I didn’t point it out in this video since it was kind of short but that’s more or less the key to speed. I am not sure about other styles of Karate, but in Kyokushin Karate - keeping your leg straight is incorrect form. Hiki-ashi (the snapping and pulling back of your lower leg) is a core principle in most kicking technique. This kick is one of the more difficult ones that require more time investment so sometimes you’ll see people cheat a little with this kick, like keeping the leg straight, or making an abnormally large trajectory. I didn’t know doing this was a variant of the kick in ITF Taekwondo. Personally I have only trained WT Taekwondo in the past.
@grayalun
@grayalun 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate Hi there, thanks for the tips really appreciated. Yeah we have an identical kick to this in ITF Taekwondo and then also the reverse turning kick which is exactly the same but keeping the leg straight instead of the bend at the end I definitely prefer the spinning hook kick though.
@grayalun
@grayalun 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Andy Hugs low kick variation of this absolutely brutal.
@connorhungerford2161
@connorhungerford2161 3 жыл бұрын
Try starting with a tornado kick and follow it up with a spinning heel.
@grayalun
@grayalun 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorhungerford2161 Tornado kicks are great, I actually got decent at those despite being a fairly large guy. Sadly lockdowns and work schedules have hampered stuff a bit in terms of regular training. Need to get back on it at home so I don't get so rusty, got all the gear just need to get in a routine again.
@yagzyalcntas553
@yagzyalcntas553 3 жыл бұрын
Always thought of this a more flashy and more risky version of roundhouse kick, by the time you master this you can have a deadly roundhouse kick which is faster and less risky, and lets be honest a well placed kick will put anybody down you dont need to turn 4 times gaining more and more speed before landing it... this always felt like: "i wanna be cool" kind of move.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
No, roundhouse kicks serve a completely different role from this kick. For example, the application shown in this video is not physically possible with a roundhouse kick. This is a bit like saying it's a waste of time to learn uppercuts when you can just be working on your jabs and make them better instead. They serve different purposes. Having a great uppercut does not mean you cannot also have a good jab, or that you're losing precious time by practicing it. Likewise, I can assure you that your roundhouse kicks will not suffer from training other kicks, unless you only have time to train 1 or 2 times a week maybe. Versatility is a positive trait. The consecutive spinning kicks in this video aren't meant for practical use. It is a test to see if your weight is distributed correctly, and whether or not you are leaning too much. It doesn't require as much time to learn as you may think. I would personally recommend to be open to it.
@yagzyalcntas553
@yagzyalcntas553 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate so how is this type of kick used differently than roundhouse? Uppercut and jab follow different path from different distance, i cant see such difference whit these two kicks tho? I am open to learn new things but i need to understand the practicality first:)
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
​@@yagzyalcntas553 For example if you look at the part 1:09 in this video. Common strategy and common sense is to circle away from someones power side. If I have my right leg and right arm back (in a normal orthodox stance), then the opponent is likely to try to circle towards my left. When they step outside my left foot, I will have a very hard time hitting them with any type of kick or straight punch. Basically the only strike that has a chance of hitting at this particular moment in time is something like a leaping left hook. I would need to adjust my feet and positioning and turn before I can attack again. However, Ushiro Mawashi Geri (spinning hook kick) and Ushiro Geri (back kick) are two techniques that are unique in that they are usable from this position. These kicks already contain a rapid turn that will align me, so I can kick immediately without first adjusting my positioning and feet. You can catch the opponent with these techniques at a point where they would normally be safe against anybody who doesn't have these techniques in their arsenal. These two techniques also complement each other because they have the same starting motion, yet one targets the body and one targets the head, making it very hard to know which one is coming (many knockouts have been done using this strategy). It can also be hard to see since the kick comes up from outside the opponent's field of view. Besides this specific example, of course there are other uses. As a counter kick, this is generally plenty more effective than a roundhouse kick because you can retreat at the same time you are rotating without really losing much power. To retreat with a roundhouse kick you have to do some retreating switch step which is much more awkward of a movement and more compromising in terms of balance. There is other usage technique-specific usage too, like using after a missed roundhouse kick, or naturally continuing the momentum when pulling back your kicking leg, into this kick like in the kumite (sparring) examples in the end of the video. For sure there is no argument to be made that this kick is anywhere as important as standard mawashi geri / roundhouse kicks, but it does fill a different role and have usage that a normal roundhouse kick does not. I think it's 100% a good technique to have in your arsenal, even if you just pull it out occasionally.
@yagzyalcntas553
@yagzyalcntas553 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate thank you for your reply, the first example ( circling around) made perfect sense and i realised i have been also using it (but only with back kick, can not do the other) as a counter i disagree tho because i almost knocked some people without using much power just leaning back a bit and using roundhouse as counter, you dont need to do switch step if you dont want to crash their block. And after a missed kick using spinning kick makes sense but too easy to see coming and vulnerable for me this i prefer either stepping back or countering the charging opponent with side kick where i dont turn my back to him but this is just a preferenceof mine not the absolute right move to do.But yeah i am convinced that there are at least some practical use of this kick, thank you
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
@@yagzyalcntas553 Yes of course, depending on the distance and timing you can use roundhouse kicks for countering also. It's all situational :-) No problem and thank you for your comment as well!
@kyokushinsociety
@kyokushinsociety 3 жыл бұрын
Osu Very nice explanation :)
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Osu! Thank you 👊
@Jefferson_oprotetor
@Jefferson_oprotetor 3 жыл бұрын
Style Kyokushin ?
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! 👍
@Jefferson_oprotetor
@Jefferson_oprotetor 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate Okay ✋
@RedRanger1
@RedRanger1 3 жыл бұрын
im the 1 k th tumbs up today! .. yataa✌😎
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Wayy 👊🏼🙏🏻
@franklaferriere5754
@franklaferriere5754 3 жыл бұрын
I am short of stature 5'3", and will not do such high spin kicks. Too easy for opponent who is taller than me to catch my foot and leg to bring me down. I'd rather use lower kicks, especially to knee joint. Either direct attack to front of knee or side of knee.
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
We all have to find what fits our personal styles and body types! :-)
@abessie1539
@abessie1539 3 жыл бұрын
素晴らしい!組手の時の体軸がぶれていない!コツを日本語でお願い。
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
つまり組手の時には体軸の問題があるということですね?組手以外に問題がないのですか?
@abessie1539
@abessie1539 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate 組手の時に体軸の問題は感じられません。余裕さえ感じられます。単独で練習の時も素晴らしいです。単独で蹴るときと組手の時,どちらが難しいと感じますか。
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
@@abessie1539 個人的には組手の時の方が難しいと思います。理由は、自分の動きを完璧に支配できないと、相手を怪我してしまう可能性が高いです。相手の気をつけているから動きを遅くして使いにくくなります笑 よく使えば慣れるので平気です
@abessie1539
@abessie1539 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaikouKarate 難しい蹴りをスピードを落とし,相手に届くようにコントロールできているのが良いと思いました。そして美しいです。僕は若いころ,後ろ回し蹴りに挑戦しましたがSaikouNaNoDaさんのようにはできなかったです。
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
​@@abessie1539 褒めてくれてありがとうございます!✨きっと練習を続ければ今でもよ改善して学ぶことができます!
@Brucelee-pv6uf
@Brucelee-pv6uf 3 жыл бұрын
My only dream in this life that keeps me alive everyday and train sohard since I was 6 is to become Ufc champion and beat my hero usman if he stays the champion after 10 year if hes stay the champion 😑❤
@SaikouKarate
@SaikouKarate 3 жыл бұрын
Keep training hard :-)
@denisl2760
@denisl2760 3 жыл бұрын
Usman will be like 44 in 10 years. He's probably going to retire in 3-4 more fights or about 2-3 years.
@zilonguser5076
@zilonguser5076 3 жыл бұрын
Turning long in taekwondo
@ПавлеОрловић-е3с
@ПавлеОрловић-е3с 11 ай бұрын
That is not good
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