Using a Phenom II X6 1090T in 2019 - How Does it Perform 10 Years Later?

[@RATechYT]

UPDATE: Apparently overclocking the RAM on Phenom CPU's isn't really worth the effort, since jumping from 1333 MHz 1700 MHz does not seem to increase performance (unless you also tighten the timings of course). Thanks to @John Bovay for providing the information. Thanks for watching! You can support my work here: www.buymeacoffee.com/ratechyt discord.gg/PFb9cMstZH ▪ instagram.com/ratechyt ▪ twitter.com/ratechyt ▪ facebook.com/ratechyt

[@KadiusFTW]

I would suggest running the intel instruction emulator to allow the cpu to run newer games, as well as make games run more stable

[@RATechYT]

Thank you for your input, i will look into it.

[@informediatech-bruno5766]

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[@RATechYT]

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[@illusion180976]

Just wondering, the Phenom II X6 1090T had SSE3 and 4a ( www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X6%201090T%20Black%20Edition%20-%20HDT90ZFBK6DGR%20(HDT90ZFBGRBOX).html ), did you investigate the reason why you had problems with this? Other than that thanks for posting content on these CPU's. :-)

[@filiphedman4392]

Imagine if they made a Phenom II X8 1200T a year or two after this cpu came out. It would have aged really well I think.

[@iamironsam]

I had a 955be in my main pc until this summer, when I switched to i7 860. It makes a very good media center once undervolted to 1.19@2.9ghz; it's also faster to boot up than the i7 based system, both with ssd or hdd. The sleep function on phenom is also more functional than i7

[@joeoliveira1843]

I still have my trusty 1090T after 7 years ...i think it's time for an upgrade!

[@AllenFeatherlin]

I'm using a Phenom II chip.. an 960T I got to try and unlock the other 2 cores. I was unsuccessful sadly, but it's been a great little quad core for me for going on 10 years now. Obviously I don't play a lot of games any more, but it's rocking a Debian base OS with Steam built in and I do play my older games no problem. This is my main system too. :)

[@BearGryllsz]

If you can unlock the cores and enter Windows, but only have stability problems, I recommend using AMD OverDrive program. This allows you to set the frequency for each core. Fixing clocks of core number 5 and 6( 2000 ~ 2600mhz), core boosting off, more likely to work without problems.

[@juanbrits3002]

I'm currently running a Phenom II x6 1055t @ 3.8ghz, it performs okay for games at 1080p low - medium settings, upgrading to a Ryzen 3600 or 3700x next week though so that will help.

[@ralekriver]

I've got a 3600, tested on asrock x570 extreme4 and gigabyte aorus x570 elite Wi-Fi, tested stock and most up to date bios' on each. I used the larger tr2 cooler, and temps at stock approach high 80's to 90's at high loads on stock configuration, precluding any overclocking, and believe me, I've spent 20+ hours tweaking and trying. It is my conclusion that at 1.45 volts demanded even at just desktop loads, (at least with the chip I got), the proc is demanding far more voltage than necessary. If a stranger can offer advice : skip the 3600, go for the 3600X. I believe you'll have far better results.

[@Indrejue]

I had this chip in my rig all the way till 3 years ago when i upgraded to ryzen

[@SensitizedX]

I owned an X6 1055T until 2013, and it ran at 4.1 Ghz / 3 Ghz Northbridge. Northbridge handled the memory bandwidth, and overclocking it would often make a huge difference on Phenom II‘s in games. I bet that you could get a few more frames if you tried hitting 3 Ghz on the Nb

[@valantis7901]

Dear friend vcore? 4.1ghz

[@SensitizedX]

Hello Valantis, it has been a very long time since I last used my Phenom II X6. Here is what I can remember, but I can not guarantee that it is perfectly accurate: I used my Phenom II X6 1055T with a Scythe Mugen Tower Cooler and two fans at 1600 RPM speed. The X6 would do 4.0 Ghz rather easily, I think at around 1.40 - 1.45 Volts. 4.1 Ghz on all cores was much more difficult and required a crazy high voltage - I think 1.525 Volts at 4.1 Ghz. Almost all of the later Phenom II's can hit 4.0 Ghz - anything beyond that however is luck. Even if your X6 does not overheat, it may run into instability at such a high clock. I can also remember that the Phenom II's had a low maximum temperature. My X6 1055T would crash when the temperature reported by motherboard exceeded 63 C (CPU Core Temperature). At 60-62 C the processor would work fine. Hope that helps!

[@SensitizedX]

@@valantis7901 By the way, I also tried to get the highest possible clock on this processor. I was only able to use 2 cores at the same time (4 cores disabled in bios), but then I managed to hit 4.4 Ghz haha. That however required an even crazier voltage at 1.5375 Volts. You can see an old video of mine with 4.4 Ghz here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qabNq3p5rK1mj9U

[@valantis7901]

@@SensitizedX ok thank you dear friend Northbridge volts? and gpu you have bottleneck fps drops?

[@SensitizedX]

@@valantis7901 Northbridge overclocking can help a lot in games! I was able to achieve 3000 mhz Nortbridge. The normal speed on my motherboard was 2000mhz @ 1.175 volts. I think that 3000mhz required around 1.325 volts for the northbridge. But 3000 is a very (!) high speed and not guaranteed to work. A "safer" speed to try first is around 2700-2800 mhz @ around 1.25 volts. About GPU: A lot of new games from the past few years can still work on the Phenom X6 when you overclock it like I did. I know that Witcher 3 can run at +100 FPS when you use GTX 1070 at 1080p high graphics. Some games like "Apex Legends" sadly require a new CPU Instruction called "AVX2". The Phenom does not have this instruction and can not start such games. If you use the Phenom X6 in 2021 for gaming, check if the games you want to play need "AVX2". I would say that using anything higher than GTX 1070 is a total waste on this processor. You will not get any benefits from a faster GPU, unless you really play at 4K resolution ;).

[@briankidd1320]

Great vid ! ,I run a phenomenon 2 x4 975 great chip

[@SirReptitious]

The system I am on has a Phenom II X2 that is unlocked to an X4 on an Asrock 970 mobo. Running at stock 3.3GHz, with 32GB of DDR3-1866 ram(ram is running at 1600 though of course). Samsung 840 EVO boot drive. Because I don't game, I haven't had the need to upgrade this system. With SSDs and so much ram it runs everything I do with no problems. I really really want to build a Ryzen 5 3600 system with 64GB of ram, but I don't have the money for it at the moment. But that's okay. This system runs great, and eventually I will build a Ryzen system.

[@sealifett8395]

Why do you need 32 gb of ram with such a weak processor...the most you will probably ever use is 8

[@SirReptitious]

SeaLife: Multitasking! These days a browser can use many gigs of ram alone(I use a fork of Firefox called Pale Moon). The usenet program I use is called Forte Agent, and that program will happily use whatever free ram you have because it's database files grow to be huge. Add to that mIRC, utorrent, Total Commander, Multipar, Winrar, Media Player Classic Home Cinema, Winamp, Foxit, etc. Trust me, having a lot of ram is great, even when a lot isn't being used by programs, just having it cache recently accessed data can help a lot. And I bought it many years ago when ram was as dirt cheap as it is right now. I have 4x8GB DDR3-1866 Kingston HyperX that only cost $129. At the time I was planning on only buying 16GB, but I decided since it's so cheap(and I knew from experience that ram goes through high and low periods) why not just max out the motherboard with 32GB? It was a decision I do not regret at all.

[@sealifett8395]

@@SirReptitious Hmm you ever check your ram usage with all those stuff open?Whats max usage?

[@SirReptitious]

The only programs that will use all 32GB are Agent, Multipar and Winrar. And Multipar and Winrar only use that much if the rar archive is ~20GB or more. When those three programs aren't actively working my memory use is only around 8-10GB.

[@blauwzakjecrack]

apparently yt algorithms knew that i once owned this cpu and recommended this video.... . ...... ........ ...... .....

[@jamiealger7246]

Yikes, scary.

[@69Dartman]

I ran a 1090t for years on my XT and later 10 system but I started doing HDTV video captures and recoding and it was slow at that. Back in the day I played a lot of games on it with at the time a okay video card. I was upgraded to a I7 980 and the 1090t is a slow dog by comparison doing video recodes. It is a old chip now too but it was a cheap upgrade 5 years after it came out. If I was just running my plex server and playing older games it would probably still be fine but my usage has changed and the extra virtual cores on the i7 chips make a huge difference in video editing and recoding. My latest box is a I7 4960x with 32 gig and it's about 25 percent faster than the 980. I still have the board around just in case as its a big part of my history and I had a lot of fun and used it hard for probably 10 years. I agree though if you have all the parts and a low budget you can use it nicely for things and non demanding games to this day. Other than that a top end older i7 using ddr3 is a great upgrade or a early ryzen if you have a bit more money for memory and like that. I never overclocked mine and maybe I should have tried it but I was going more for reliability and stability and it ran rock stable for years.

[@hjembrentkent6181]

The Phenom II is slow primarily because it only does 3 micro operations per cycle, where the i7 does 4. And the memory controller is slow and no hyperthreading. I went from Phenom II X4 @ 3.6 to i5 3570 3.6 all core turbo, and it's a big difference. Same RAM.

[@helltube4523]

I am currently using : Phenom 1090T @3,6GHz - 14GB RAM - 250GB first generation Samsung EVO SSD - GeForce GTX 970 Besides PUBG everything else runs fine or not at all due to SSE 4 extention requirements.

[@dallasfrederick5858]

phenom II loves high bus speed, so cranking the bus speed will also produce a decent overclock as well

[@Edu_RJR]

I have been using a phenom II x4 965 since 2011. Just yesterday I bought some upgrade parts with a fresh i3 9100f, seems like a good cost for a low-mid end gaming pc

[@ayuchanayuko]

Also had the 965 until 3 years later. The 4.4GHz 2500k I got was leaps and bounds faster though especially in Ubisoft games. Crysis 2/3 also finally is lag-free

[@kevin-vlogs-everything6354]

Iwanted to have those Phenom II x6s but it is really dificult to have those here in my country. But I have a Phenom II x4 B25 or B26, Originally a Phenom II 2 x3 @ 2.7 Ghz. I have been lucky to actually unlock it's un used core. but I have switched a full 2.8Ghz Phenom X4 925. I still have both of my Phenom II x4's as my Virtual box lab. it is really good at virtuallization. but not a good 24hr server tho.

[@conradoperia]

yes, x4 955 BE, still solid, too bad it doesn't have sse 4.x instructions that are needed by modern games

[@nessnake123]

that phenom is a beast i changed it for a ryzen, i gave the phenom to my sister

[@CEEPMDEE]

Still rocking my 1100t @4.2 ghz with a 1080ti x-trio

[@ChadKenova]

I still remember back in the day trying to decide between the 3770k and 8350 and back then i really didn't know much ive learned so much since then. So i just had to look up some reviews and it didnt take long to find out the amd chip was a dud compared to a 3770k. My 3770k works great today and while its not my main cpu i have it paired with a gaming x 1060 and it clocked at 4.6ghz. Well I actually just retired it because i just build a new rig 9900ks 2080ti and moved my 8700k 2080 to the case the 3770k was in. Man the ks will do 5ghz at 1.2v no problem

[@RATechYT]

It is obvious that 3770k was a better choice, but it did not compete with the FX-8350 since you would also pay a price premium for it.

[@ChadKenova]

RA Tech i was thing the fx chip was like $300 back then at first maybe $250 and i got my 3770k a little over $300 so it wasn’t that much more but later on it was definitely competing with the 3570’s price.

[@ChadKenova]

It was originally about $249 so i was wrong so yea it was in the i5 range or cheaper but i cant remember if it was the 8150 or 8350 that was out when the 3770k came out. Im thinking it was the 8150.

[@hubzcaps]

Fast enough that i have to see whats up. I dig. Sub bruGHH. r9 gang

[@MichaelSmith-cl1uo]

I just got a Phenom x6 1055 and mobo for 20 bucks during 2021 cpu shortages.

[@Xtremedarkjoy]

My phenom runs 4k wildlands ,doom 4 and others no issues

[@petmey5281]

You need to disable the power management and turbo core then you should be able to use multiplier overclocking with stability. You can also get a lot of performance by running the North Bridge at 2800 to 3000. , my 1100 t is stable at 1.425 volts and 2800 North Bridge with 4.1 gigahertz 20.5 multi-player., I can run 4.2 gigahertz faiveley with a 21 multiplier but it uses too much voltage not worth it I have to move the voltage up to 1.5. I also run the Northbridge voltage at 1.4v. , compared to my new ryzen 9 it's really starting to show its age and as you mentioned with it missing the new instruction sets it can't play newer games

[@KABBIL]

Still using amd phenom ii x6 1090t,great machine,need 2 overclock tho

[@knykcom]

watching from AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8Ghz

[@catsspat]

I recently upgraded my Mom's PC from Phenom II x3 720 to Ryzen 7 2700. That's 3 logical processors to 16. LOL Consumes less than half the power, whether idling or loaded, not that it's ever going to be loaded, since she doesn't do anything intensive with the PC.

[@alone2break]

Have you try unlocking that phenom to Quadcore?

[@catsspat]

@@alone2break No, but I had a friend who did and it mostly "worked" but failed on Prime95 after a while. I also had X4 910e, which I gave away at some point. The architectural improvement from Phenom to Ryzen is just far too big. Even my 200GE (2C4T, 35W) completely obliterates 4 "core" Carrizo low-power processor.

[@YTSZAZU]

Highly anticipating the phenom ii x6 versus the fx 8350. Do you have a fx 6300 or capability to compare 6 cores phenom versus 6 cores fx versus the 8350? I am having a fx 4100, unsure to go phenom ii x6 or a fx 6300, or fx 8300. My gigabye board s2p only has 4 mosfets on it.

[@RATechYT]

I will definitely be getting an FX-6300 later on for a review. Haven't really thought of comparing the six core Phenom and FX CPUs, but may look into it. I can confidently say that FX is the way to go, but I'm not exactly sure how your motherboard will handle it.

[@H2VPROEternal]

I will purchase for test with my asus m4a785-m am3 board

[@misterPAINMAKER]

If only it had the requiered the instructions, it is still a decent cpu if you combine it with a new gpu to watch videos and etc and some GOOD optimized video games, just like the Division.

[@idan1242]

you shoulda benchmark on high settings as well! nice vid

[@w3bsl1ngr]

No direct comparison against current CPUs

[@thereallantesh]

Nice video. I'm still using a Phenom II myself, an 1100T. I currently have it paired with an Nvidia GTX 950. I have not tried overclocking, but maybe I will to see what benefit I can get with certain games. Your GTX 970 is too powerful of a GPU for the 1090T. According to pc-builds.com/calculator/ this combo produces a 39 percent bottleneck. So using an even more powerful GPU wouldn't have made a difference in your benchmarks. A perfect pairing for your 1090T would be a GTX 1050 which comes out at less than 1 percent, .13%.

[@MrKoNtI1]

Yeah my phenom ii 840 x4 is rocking only at 3.8ghz

[@ttvbtwttvbtw5627]

nice video dude! im still running my phenom ii x6 black edition BUT i cant overclock it with the bios because i cant access it. (ive tried everything). can you help me and suggest me a program and setting to overclock him ?

[@GhostRecon876]

tested this theory with a phenom ii x6 with a Gt 740 and ran pubg 1080p high settings smoothly

[@senopatict]

= with rx460 want raytracing GI rx6500 can run?

[@christopherjames9843]

1.55 vcore. Wow.

[@RATechYT]

Yup.

[@hjembrentkent6181]

Maxed out, 200W easy xD

[@christopherjames9843]

@@hjembrentkent6181 I once overclock an FX4350 to 5.1 GHz stable. Vcore was over 1.5 and it drew like 300 watts full load.

[@twirl6987]

Movies have nearly always been in 24 frames per second. They were always smooth. I've never seen them not smooth. So when someone says 60 fps is not smooth...they are talking bullshit.

[@RATechYT]

I hope this is a joke.

[@Vantud391]

Can make a video about FM2+ build with X4+760k CPU? or with best cpu that FM2+ can get? Thanks.

[@lumi2387]

FM2 doesn't have good CPUs for gaming, they all suck at it.

[@ralekriver]

@@lumi2387 agreed, but dat overclock tho...

[@RATechYT]

Will look into it.

[@alzarpomario889]

I'm going to check how faster is my x3370@4.3GHz.

[@RATechYT]

It's been 14 hours, I'm starting to get worried.

[@dantesinferno267]

I still have my shoes it like new and a i also still have my jeans.....and i still have my tv ....???!!?🤔🤔🤔

[@Rainbow__cookie]

I have a phenom II x4 955

[@royal1874]

I have Phenom x4 9550

[@YorHighness]

This cpu now lacks certain instructions for modern games.

[@xHALx9000]

A4 7300 on fm2 with a overkill RX 580

[@TomO-nx1bd]

I still have my Phenom II X6 1065T from almost 10 years ago. I keep wanting it to become slow so I can get a new PC but it's still performing too well to justify the expense of upgrading.

[@johr7534]

graphic card???

[@madikiestherkhiangte9884]

​@@johr7534 When you don't game graphic is excellent, i am using itm

[@mr_knowcargt5007]

​@johr7534 the most powerful gpu u should use with this cpu is the gtx 1650

[@Da40kOrks]

I'm still using my Phenom II 940 on the system I'm watching this...

[@baltasahr9757]

Same here but i use a X3 with unlocket 4th core it runs alls my games just fine but it stats to strugle because ist getting old ^^

[@ngybrid]

Same here, pair it with R7 360 and 8GB RAM, still got stable 60FPS at PUBG Lite, The Crew, and some other games at med-low settings @1024p (5:4 monitor, roughly between 768p and 900p 16:9 monitor) Wanna try it with The Division 2 but it needs AVX which the CPU didn't have. Shame, but still useful I guess.

[@ajddavid452]

my system has a 945

[@ngybrid]

@Dalle Smalhals My PC ARE still useful, not Ubi. HAH! You don't even take time to clarify things.

[@azwris]

​@@baltasahr9757 I have the Athlon II x3 455 which is unlocked to Phenom II x4 B55 for the last 9 years and it is still ok in most of the games although I wanna play Total War: Three Kingdoms and it can't handle this game. So goodbye Phenom! It's been a long time and thank you for everything.

[@tachmonite37]

I still use the 1090T with a GTX1060 as my daily driver for work and play. I haven't noticed any issues at all. Maybe its because I have never used anything better yet... You don't know what you don't know, till you know it :)

[@hjembrentkent6181]

Do you overclock? If you do, you need to raise the CPU-NB multiplier. That's the memory controller multiplier, and you tighten cache timings as well. The memory controller was still a little weak on Phenom II, give it some more speed. Just keep the voltage on that below 1.35, give it some margin. 1.3 volts will get you from 2000 MHz to 2800 MHz probably. Also keep the HT link at the same multiplier as the CPU-NB, that one should require less voltage.

[@wolfemancola]

I feel the same way, my 1090T is at 4.0Ghz cooled by a cheap Cooler Master 212 evo and i have a RX480 8gb card and everything seems fine for now. Ryzen soon probably

[@emild.6739]

does this gpu bottleneck cpu?

[@jeffryLebovsky]

just try to play Apex or Far Cry 5)) that made me switch to fx8350 some time ago, it was cheap as shit, and same socket but no such issues like with phenom

[@762459]

Got the same specs, but about to retire my 1090T. It served well for 10 years.

10 years? Amazing processor, very strong!

[@cv507]

i5 25% faster so yes dreck then 2nd best pc növv

[@AlexandreMS71]

Six cores are better now than they were at the time of release.

[@mrunknow188]

true but ipc still king to this day in some games first gen rayzen 7 can still be beat by a i7 2600k because of its high signal threaded performance

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

6-8 cores is still all you need for 99% of consumers tasks. most games and apps don't scale well with cores.

[@rustedyoda7339]

i guess, but this cpu is still beat by the g4560, a literal 25$ cpu.

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Still lacking sse2, and other advancements. Great 4 a sleeper PC.

[@TheDude50447]

@@rustedyoda7339 Just looking at userbench the 1090t at stock clocks is over 30% faster than the G5460 when all cores are used.

[@niikon]

Ran my Phenom II X6 1055T @ 3.7GHz for 10 years, it's been doing me good :) Just replaced it a few months back with a Ryzen 3800x. Btw, NB/CPU OC to 2.8GHz gives great performance increase on Phenom II, just make sure to leave HT at close to 2GHz as possible.

[@pygmit32]

Still having a Phenom II X6 1090T, working nicely as a media streaming machine.

[@lagginswag]

Re/up cycling ftw

[@GhostieXV]

Same mine lives on as a plex Server with a 750ti for transcoding.

[@mohdfaizal6773]

Cool reused 😘👍

[@0xMoonstar]

Gosh thats ver ineffective usage. Build yourself a low profile HTPC.

[@pygmit32]

But then again, I don't need any more computers at the moment. :)

[@FelixBruin]

I've got the Phenom 1055, 1075, 1090 and the 1100 .. And i still love those cpu's :-)

[@idan1242]

yea its a lovely series

[@4000marcdman]

If i have the 1090T on the stock HP motherboard is there a newer processor i can upgrade to? You sound like you know what you are talking about.

[@FelixBruin]

Go for the 1100, the 1090 works on youre board already, probaly the 1100 whould also ;)

[@SRC267]

@@FelixBruin will it work on a Asus M4N68T-M LE ?

[@FelixBruin]

@@SRC267 That board has support for the Phenom II X6 1090T as max ;-)

[@levilima9925]

Actually by lowering the resolution youve forced your processor to take all the work from the game and didn't use the GPU at its maximum performance. By not using a resolution of 1080p you actually created a bottleneck scenario in which the load is going to the CPU instead of the GPU. I'd recommend to remake the tests using 1080p settings.

[@locololus]

I use this processor and all I need to upgrade is my graphics card and HDD to an SSD but that's about it. I use it for gaming and it works great! I see no purpose in upgrading.

[@SSFighter1701]

I have a Phenom II x6 1045t machine that I built in 2013 as a gaming machine. It was actually pretty cheap to build even then - had it paired with a GTX 650 Ti. That machine is now in the hands of my 15 year old cousin who thoroughly loves it. Apparently he was able to get a bit of a OC out of it and he put a used RX480 and 16GB RAM which apparently has it running his Overwatch, Minecraft, and Rocket League just fine. Basically what I'm saying is that these processors have plenty of juice left so long as your expectations are reasonable.

[@GamingPalooza]

The Phenom is still a good CPU for Windows 10. Works perfectly fine.

[@ndr2q]

I used my Phenom II X6 1090T for about 8 years, and it was great. I eventually demoted it to a home theatre PC and finally retired it last month, in November 2019. I’m now using a Ryzen 3600X, which feels like a worthy successor. The Phenom got better with age. It launched at a time when most games were only using 1 or 2 cores, so it felt like a lot of its potential was untapped. Phenoms finally hit a sweet spot during this console generation, when suddenly applications started to get more multi threading support. It was probably a much better processor at the time of its release than any of us thought back then ... it was just a little ahead of its time.

[@IrelandVonVicious]

This was a decent chip for people to upgrade to a year ago if they had an old Athlon from around 2011-2012. Just to keep playing for cheap. Since the release of the 3000 series Ryzen and the fall in price of all the other Ryzen chips this is no longer worth it.

[@picchioknossus8096]

In fact I upgraded a year ago from a athlon 4000+ on am2 keeping the mobo and the rest of the system. Shortly after i upgraded my gpu from geforce 9600 GT super to GTX 1050ti.

[@BLKBRDSR71]

I still have a Phenom II x4 965. I'm not using it ATM, but I'm keeping it as a backup. My current CPU is a Ryzen 5 1600.

[@GSXRNissan]

Real 6 core cpu power.

[@PistigriloXP]

I still have and use this processor, since 2010. It's still a good processor, with some limitations, especially about the lack of some instructions. My PC: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE | GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 | 12GB (2x4GB+2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator CL8 | EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB SSC | 480GB Kingston SSD | 2x4TB WD Caviar Red | Corsair AX850.

[@SHADOWZXF]

amazing pc build ^^

[@aprizal17]

Is 1060 3gb bottlenecked by 1090T?

[@PistigriloXP]

Aprizal Azhar Less than you can imagine, but now I have a Ryzen 7 2700X.

[@aprizal17]

@@PistigriloXP I have an old PC 1090T with gtx 560 Ti, it never turn on about 5 years.. Now I try to turn it on but it won't boot, error code 2E.. After looking for solutions, many say problem with the gpu.. So I'm looking for new gpu for replacing the old 560Ti, thinking about gtx 970, rx 580 4gb or this 1060 3gb

[@SHADOWZXF]

@@aprizal17 yes , because 1090T is old architecture sadly , the best for it would be gtx 960 4 gb or 1050 ti 4 gb imo

[@warrenho2000]

Ya... i still Have Phenom ii X6 1100T

[@quocbaonguyen4588]

alright what the frick 2010 is how many years ago now ?

[@denvera1g1]

I had a 1045T that was somewhat stable at 3.6Ghz and i do still have it with motherboard sitting on a shelf, but i dont think it would be viable in 2020(without compromising settings) however, another processor from around that time i think would be is the xeon x5690/i7-990x for high end gaming, i'm still using (two watercooled) x5690s with gtx 1080, however i recently found that my motherboard was bottlenecking me, my board, being a server board, has several PCIe slots, but none of them are wired higher than PCIe 2.0 x4(even though 3 of the 5 are 16x length), if i had a pro board like the EVGA classified SR2(lga1366) i could not only have 2 PCIe x16 slots, i could also overclock these processors to 4-4.7Ghz. in some games my dual x5690s perform similar to a 3770k and bottlenecks the GPU(in theory, running at x4 basically halved the performance of my GPU from the start), but in other games that can take advantage of more cores, it acts more like an 8700k and is bottlenecked by gpu, especially sinse it is running at 4x speeds, but even then should still be bottlenecked at full 16x. I just wish i had realised this before i ordered my 3950x system(using 1080 for now as i am waiting for rumored 5900xt

[@FireJamUSA]

My wife's PC is a Phenom II 1090T. It used to be my primary development rig (many years ago..) but it still does pretty good with it's GTX460 video card and 8GB of ram. I offered to upgrade my wife to an I7-4770 and she said she was happy with what she had so i gave the 4770 to my son.. The 1090T was a great chip... Thanks for honoring it with this video.

[@jotabe1984]

Phenom II was a great lineup... I had a Phenom II x4 945 c3 (95w version) on a secondary rig and i can only talk great things about that cpu... Even at stock speeds Nevertheless 9 years after release the lack of modern instruction set forced me to sidegrade to an Fx4300 un that rig which gave me 0 performance Boost, but kept myself away from compatibility issues. Now in 2023, 11 years after vishera release i haven't had troubles with My fx like i had with My Phenom II... So i can only conclude the fx vishera lineup proved to be better and more futureproof at the end of the day

[@kylenorris9585]

Did he say 40fps was barely playable? bruh I grew up playing games at 15 -20fps and had a blast whats his problem lol

[@justiny.1773]

Kyle Norris people these days think anything under 60 is barely playable yet I grew up with 15-30 FPS on most games and had no problem beating them

[@Gateway180]

Yeah, I remember playing games at 15-25 frames and it was awful. Never going back to those days, I'll gladly deal with having a 165hz monitor instead.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Still using a Phenom II x4 840 in my secondary computer, in the new I have a Ryzen 1300X.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

@@r4mps I think I managed to get it from 3.2GHz to 3.533GHz when it was only 2-3 years old. I tried again a couple of months ago, but could only get +14-15MHz because I want the DDR3 RAM to run at 1600MHz. My MoBo is really weak though, an asrock N68C-S, which is max 95W CPU restricted. I was happy to barely cram in 2x4GB, since the other 2 slots are DDR2.

[@justiny.1773]

Magnus Nilsson Phenom is better then Ryzen

[@r4mps]

@@magnusnilsson9792 I had another go these past days and was able to get it stable at 3.64 ghz and around 1.47 volts. This is on a Am2 + ddr2 platform. 260 fsb 14x max multi for cpu 10x nb clock 5x ht link ( its automatic on this motherboard ) And 4x on the ram for a nice overclock too. Check them out, maybe you get a little bump in performance. Ps: I'm also limited by the 95w max of the motherboard, but it shows up to 104w in hwmonitor when overclocked.

[@polentusmax6100]

@@r4mps i use 1.36v to reach 3,55ghz, cheap mobos can be fixed with heatsinks on the mosfets and forced ventilation on it

[@blakeryan995]

I am still using the phenom 2 x6 1100T processor and I am working it overclocked to 4.237 ghz with liquid cooling and 32 gb ddr3 running at 1700 mhz on an Msi motherboard with a 3060 and a sata ssd still killing it on the games built this rig late 2010 in a thermaltake docker case spared no change and all i have done is max the ram and the graphix cards and the ssd but the 5oomhz fsb on my motherboard seems to be doing a great job on my old turd allowing me to push it harder and harder tiny little bits here and there. the hardest part is finding that next stable level.

[@Diversifried]

Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition here. Still running strong. I did run into a problem trying to play Anno 1800, instruction set missing. Chip is too old. I will be upgrading to a R7 2700 soon.

[@LGN_Sniper]

I used a Phenom II 925 from 2011-15 and gave it to my cousin, who used it until last year. It still works and I use it in my party setup. Along with a few other old school builds I have done.

[@Dmitrioligy]

Still using rx 480 and phenom II x6 1100t. About to upgrade tho.... Cpu showing its age. Finally.

[@kingkosher6231]

I had a nice experience with the Phenom x4 955 Black Edition back in the day. With my old 9800 GT it was a pretty solid rig in its day.

[@DrayseSchneider]

Using a Phenom II X6 1055t on my main system.

[@just_arandom_guy8209]

my fx 6350 OCed at 4.4 ran like shit in gtav, i had many frame drops at 40 fps in town.... it was stuttering festival! phenom 2 were a loooot better cpus!!

[@just_arandom_guy8209]

My overclock was 100% stable and tweaked at max! I had checked everything with hwmonitor to find the limits of vrms and at which temps and power they were throttling. At 4.4 ghz they were running stable all times with an extra 40mm fan on vrms ;)i had also tried at 4.7 but it was consuming a lot of energy(checked with wattmeter) and there was zero benefit. At 4.4 ghz was the sweet spot! Phenom fx was the shittiest cpu i ever had... Good for productivity, bad for gaming.... After that i sold everything, and i bought an used i7 2700k and OCed the hell out of it at 4.8ghz and it was day and night! Now im a happy owner of a delidded i5 8600k at 5ghz and definately there is no way back.... p.s. An ex AMD fan...

[@nicktsoulli1796]

Intel didn't push the performance bar soo much higher, this cpu was relevant enough for a good few people I know before the upgrade bug and 3rd gen Ryzen hit.

[@Tiagostoledo]

eu tenho um phenon II 1090t até hoje , esta semana estalei windows 10 e vai rodar mais uns 10 anos rs .

[@KarimAkors]

yeah forgett it got stompt in the ground by a 35€ 4 core cpu.....by the i5 2500k cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1100T/619vs2004

[@rlacrossjr]

I just upgraded my x4 810 to x6 1090T and maxed out my RAM. $120 made my 10 year old PC like new again. No crazy gaming just home PC.

[@euX222X]

Good CPU it's like a good wine...

[@eurocrusader1724]

1055t still running fine here , alongside a i7 920 , so I have my classics sorted... After I retire them theyll go into my CPU collection..

[@BNOEnt]

still running a 1055t also works fine

[@zero0core]

My daily driver is an, AMD Phenom II x4 B55 3.2Ghz Black Edition Quad Core which is a (Core Unlocked) x2 555 3.2Ghz Black Edition Dual Core, 8GB DDR3 1066Mhz, Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB, 500GB Mushkin Source SSD Boot Drive. And I can still play plenty of games on it with acception to games which require certain instruction sets same as what you explained in your video. A few other games simply will not load or are unplayable like DOOM I can't get more than a few frames per second and thus it's unplayable. But I can still play things like Metro Exodus, Fallout 4, etc,..

[@AllenFeatherlin]

The original BE 550 was the chip I started with on my current machine. I ran it as an unlocked quad for years and years. I got a 960T to replace it (overclocked a bit further and ran a bit cooler) but wasn't able to get the other 2 cores (or even 1) to unlock sadly. Long live the Phenoms!

[@pauls4522]

Is your Doom 2016 running in Open GL or Vulkan? Doom 2016 runs godly on cheap/old hardware. It runs Phenom 1 and Core 2 Quads just fine. Hell even a Pentium 4 if maxed out to 12gb of ram and given a modern GPU can some how pull off 30fps in Doom 2016.

[@zero0core]

@@pauls4522 Did you notice my Graphics Card is a Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB? I'm pretty sure that is why I can't play that game because that Card does Not Support Vulkan whatsoever. And I tried but it does not support Vulkan so it forced OpenGL and on that Graphics card it is unplayable just a few FPS like maybe 5 FPS Max.

[@pauls4522]

@@zero0core sorry I misread that one part. Yeah the 6870 would bottleneck ya. Which is a real shame because the raw performance of a 6850 still isn't that bad for something like 720P. If only it were at least a 7770 or 7850. Similar raw performance from a hardware perspective, but would unlock vulkan for a whole new world of performance.

[@zero0core]

@@pauls4522 Yeah well my Next System I plan to get will be an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, 64GB DDR4 3600Mhz, XFX Radeon RX 5700XT THICC III Ultra, System. That is when I finally can afford an upgrade of course :)

[@GBM6988]

I never did get my hands on the Phenom II but I been rocking the FX chipset since 2014 with the FX 6350 first then I moved on to the FX 8370 OC to 4.6Ghz with 16Gb of ram ddr3

[@HulksterHogan]

I used that exact CPU for a good while, it was apart of my first PC that I ever built, I use a 1800x now but I still have my Phenom II X6 1090t in my Proxmox server.

[@rvborgh]

i'm watching this on a PC with the equivalent of 8 Phenom II cpus... Quad Opteron (48 cores). Still works great in 2019 :) Most of these chips themselves will overclock past 3.7 GHz but i cannot run more than 2 cores per die at that speed (16 cores total) or the motherboard shuts things down (too much current). The most i can run all 48 cores together is approximately 3.2 GHz. Cinebench R15 single is 101cb, and multi (at 3.2 GHz) is 3229cb.

[@qinwan7088]

Using Phenom II 1090T with Windows 10 Pro right now! New workstation 2990WX + RTX Titan

[@joannaatkins822]

I just built a super budget entry level as heck computer for my friend's son using a Phenom ii X6 1055t. This one, sadly, hates overclocking. I tinkered for two weeks trying to get it stable in time for his birthday, and sadly had to leave it at stock settings. I hardcore lost the silicone lottery.

[@RATechYT]

Aw man. That sucks.

[@VattenDemonen]

I replaced my Phenom 1090T 1,5 years ago on my main rig, but I still use it in my file server :)

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Good video. Nice results - i was expecting good results ; the results were a little better then i thought they might be. Shows that even older AMD Cpu's can still be usable.

[@decimat777]

AYYYYY this is my video for sure! On one of your other videos I talked about my 1100T, great chip! hope you enjoy yours too!

[@namelesssnitchy]

i have a phenom ii x6 1070t and an asus M4A77T/USB3 (AM3) motherboard. is this overclockable? my ddr3 cards are a bit slow though. i have 2 of 667mhz and 2 of 800mhz. my graphic card is amd radeon r7 370 gaming series 2gb

[@namelesssnitchy]

i encounter huge fps drops in rainbow six siege now and then,. it drops too 1fps :S :(

[@valantis7901]

@@namelesssnitchy you have bottleneck?

[@namelesssnitchy]

@@valantis7901 i have fps drops atm. just ordered a compressed air bottle to make it a bit clean. and i didnt renew cooling paste for like 5 years or so. so maybe its because of that. the compressed air cleaning the last time i did it was like 1,5 year ago i think... the cpu is 10 years old so it might just be his end i dont know. usage of cpu and gpu also drops half when the fps drops accur. for the rest the temps are not abnormal high though .. :(

[@valantis7901]

@@namelesssnitchy clean pc and new thermal paste cpu...cpu overclock dear friend? R7 update drivers? Sundenly start drops fps?

[@namelesssnitchy]

@@valantis7901 no. I didn't overclock my cpu. And I can't remember updating a driver or so beforr it happened. I also did a full new windows 10 reinstalled on it and tried to update drivers again. This didn't change the problem.. I guess indeed the cleaning part and new thermal paste on both cpu and gpu should be the first thing to try. At least thanks for the advice I'll work on it soon

[@skotadism0s]

Long live the Phenoms man i'm still rocking an X3 as a daily driver from 2010 for surfing and office work since i don't play games any more and if i do i mostly play old games that my HD6850 and phenom crunches for breakfast. Has been running since 2010 @3.65Ghz 1.428V 1800Mhz Ram @ 9-10-9-27-36-1T and NB @ 2700Mhz 1.3V Out of curiosity what was your NB voltage to get this OC? 4.1 is really good for those chips especially using an air cooler!! Just keep in mind that the temps are quite high. Generally you want these chips at or under 50C for every day use, the thermal shutdown or throttling i don't remember which one is at 65C i think so you are just 5C shy from it. Also in order to get the most out of these chips you need to OC the NB. You get more performance from this than OCing the cores the system becomes a lot more snappier as well. Try for 3Ghz and don't go over 1,35V. You will need an AM3 motherboard probably since the 9 Series wasn't really optimized for Phenom that's why you had problems with the multipliers..

[@hjembrentkent6181]

Exactly. You dont want to go much higher than 1.3v on the NB anyway, perfect overclock for your chip. I assume you tried to unlock that last core on your X3, that chip is actually an X4 i think.

[@skotadism0s]

@@hjembrentkent6181 yeah it is an x4 chip and it unlocked the 4th core perfectly but only for 32-bit windows... under 64-bit it would insta crash as soon as windows started to load :S Oh well at least i unlocked the extra L3 cache, my chip was originally an athlon II X3 435 @ 2.9Ghz locked processor so i had to also get creative with the OC as well. i think the reason i bumped the NB voltage so high was to stabilize the core OC rather than NB OC.. that's why i'm asking about his NB volts maybe thuban was different or silicon quality? My chip went to something like 3.5Ghz and 2.5NB on stock volts and then needed crazy voltage to get just a tiny bit more. Also it hated temps over 50C when OCed past stock volts. I remember i tried and tried for 3.85Ghz and couldn't for the life of me get it stable for a decent amount of time in prime so i left it at that.

[@25myma]

I think the x6s were the only amd cpus worth having in the period between socket 939 and ryzen. Had a 1055t for about 5 years @3.8/4.2 ghz,.. till the cpu power connector of the board literally melted,.. the chip was fine😁

[@Markcy1989]

The only problem with Phenom nowadays = SSE 4.1

[@x-coin6740]

Yea i did not know this when i had a choice between phenom and fx i kick myself not getting the fx cpu i just wanna play need for speed heat and grid 2019 but i cant even start them. 😫

[@Markcy1989]

@@x-coin6740 Sad =/

[@barfcoswill]

Got a phenom II x2 but later found out it could be unlocked to x4, still use it - updating the video card seemed to have a bigger impact on performance.

[@RyeRyeL]

My friend had one of these and I was very jealous. I ended up getting a 2600k when that launched but always loved these AMD chips. I went from a 2600k to a 1700x to a 3900x. What's crazy is I'm getting double the cinebench score per core on the 3900x and a multi score of over 3200.

[@marko_jack_]

It is "ok" option for ultra low budget, but my recommendation is Ryzen 1200 as entry level, and later upgrade to Ryzen 2600 which is best bang for buck... From Intel only i5 2500k ( i5 2300 and 2400 only if it is cheap as Phenom), and for little bit higher price i7 2600k or non, if you want new go for budget coffe lake motherboards B360 and i3 9100f, performance are insanse... With Phenom you can play games, some will run worse and some will run better, but it is outdated cpu and it is time to say goodbye... Stay away from FX cpu's they are piece of shit, you can use it temporary, because it is dirty cheap, you can upgrade your Phenom using same AM3+ motherboard, but you will have low fps and bottleneck, only bit better in newer games than Phenom... For newest deals go fot I5 9400f and Ryzen 3600, you can't find any better for it price cheers...

[@alanestevez2431]

i'm using tyhe phenom III x6 1090T with a geforce 210 bcoz my GTX 770 died a few months ago, this GPU is aful it's like an obsolete potato it can't run CSGO at 60FPS even using a lot of tweaks like: overclocking, using lowest settings, the lowest resolution available, some launch options and an exec to improve performance

[@ReganMarcelis]

..have a 1100t looking for a cheap but decent mobo to give to my nephew as a okay to decent enough gaming pc and his first overall as well as a great, imo desktop-internet machine .. for him to be on the web for himself.. Pairing it with the still very useable 7990 triple stack dual GPU should fair well as also already have a 1200 watt kingwin psu laying around and a ssd/hd and matx case on order.. I may sell my x79, add some money to the pile left and grab a xeon 2690v4 or even maybe a 2683v3... thanks for the cool video..