Using an angle grinder disc as a clutch disc - will it work?

[@ukmerkz5031]

I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read kzbin.infoUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.

[@MikeB-Android-Teacher]

*Ok, now what if you were to use the angle grinder disc for brake pads? That's pretty easy to try!*

[@freesoul9324]

That's a good suggestion.

[@MikeB-Android-Teacher]

@@freesoul9324 - I hope they see this and lots of people upvote it. That way, they'll have a better chance of seeing it.

[@luklukk]

I was thinking about the same

[@scootergeorge7089]

@@luklukk A Lada folks would agree!

[@hotwheelsracer6380]

That would be so easy to see

[@WolfmanDude]

You better clean your lathe really good after this one. The abrasive dust will destroy the sliding surfaces. I dont even use the grinder in the same room as my lathe because of this.

[@robsmart8734]

Tahhhhhhccckkhh?

[@devonswindell9735]

This was probably filmed a long time ago

[@pimpnick4920]

I just got one for free out of a graphite shop...it's clapped out

[@rickigunter1960]

That's a good tip

[@Markcain268]

Good tip, that grinding dust gets everywhere

[@SavageBunny1]

Perfect way to resurface your flywheel and pressure plate before the new disk.

[@Colt45hatchback]

In before the tabloid "news" programs grab the story "that the mechanics dont want you to know" angle grinder clutch disc, machines flywheel as you use it so when its due for new clutch, flywheel already machined. 🤣🤣🤣

[@dominicklipari]

I see no way of this going wrong This is perfect

[@stanley1554]

Great point!

[@BadMax02_VR]

Awesome idea, but i would have liked to see the disc be pushed to its limits, like trying to set of in 5th gear or really high revs and slow clutch depressing. Another Video idea i had was to maybe try and see if you could get a engine to run backwards like swap the cam shafts and intake and exhaust side and see if you can make it drive forwards in reverse, or have it spin the same direction just with the intake and exhaust sides swapped.

[@TTURKI]

It’s a good idea , but they’ve done a video making the car drive forward in reverse before

[@AnalogDude_]

a (analog carburated) engine can run backwards, tried that as kid with a moped, you need to adjust spark timing, alternator might be a problem as it contains transistor and diodes to adjust magnetic field & polarity and camshaft belt/chain is setup to run in one direction.

[@amorag59]

I'm glad they didn't push it to limits though bc then we see the wear pattern as opposed to just watching them sweep up bits and dust lol.

[@simondoesthings]

There's videos of that on KZbin. Doable, the biggest issue is the alternator - honestly you don't really have to change anything mechanically in the engine. Timing, spark, lots of determination and go

[@petelattimer6808]

@@AnalogDude_ a 2 stroke engine will. but a 4 stroke will need a LOT more changed than that.

[@1984xlx]

Yet another 107% success! Now I know what to do if I can't find a clutch for my truck.

[@leewriter4656]

Or you can go to the parts store

[@scootergeorge7089]

@@leewriter4656 - Or, Harbor Freight Tools!

[@TheHumphrey367]

You should do a long term test on that disc, id really like to see how long it lasts.

[@davidbowser2395]

It would definitely be cheaper to make the disk rather than buying a whole new one lol

[@Matt-cl4mp]

Its probably not legal in russia to drive a lada with a clutch made from an angle grinder disk.

[@ClumsyCars]

@@Matt-cl4mp you're funny

[@vollkrassmann858]

@@Matt-cl4mp If something is not legal "because it is not usual and non-industry-supporting stuff" - then you are somewhere in Central Europe 😧 I guess anywhere else on this planet they don't give a sh*t about such "legality" details.... Greetings from Austria

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@Matt-cl4mp Show me the regulation, at least in the US unless its a safety concern there is no regulation stating you can't use aftermarket clutch disks (just like I have an aftermarket radiator in my car that's superior to OEM), or that you can't change the windshield wipers or put in different transmissions or anything else like that. The government doesn't approve anything here (even DOT rated helmets are not tested by anyone in government, even that is self certified by the manufacturer and you just have to take their word that they actually tested them, I can make my own DOT rated helmets and slap the sticker on a bucket of foam and tape). There would never be any innovation if companies or individuals couldn't make any new or different parts, it simply wouldn't be possible to develop anything new.

[@richardparker56]

Take it to the test track, try towing something heavy. I’d like to see how it works when fully scrubbed in!!! Awesome! 👍👍👍

[@raven4k998]

you know why it works so well cause the grinder disc is made to grab so it can cut not surprising it works as a clutch not sure how long it would last compare to a real clutch, he should test it against one and put the car ir reverse while driving forwards and see which lasts longer against that abuse🤣🤣🤣

[@jwalster9412]

This takes grinding gears to a whole nutha level.

[@raven4k998]

wait till he breaks that disc in your just seeing how well it works with the edge right now wait till it wear to having the whole disc touching then you're going to see some serious shit🤣

[@scootergem]

we need long term testing. put it back into something that is an everyday driver and give it 6 months or so. great channel!

[@alexdev5809]

Yes please

[@Matt-cl4mp]

Long term testing isn't practical unless done on public roads. What they really should have done was a torture test.

[@estebanod]

How to kill someone 101

[@ksam96trini]

Thank you very much Garage 54 for answering something I've always wondered my entire automotive life!

[@Chopped93VX]

Never pay a mechanic to resurface your flywheel ever again. That clutch will leave that baby looking fresh every day.

[@richardthomas1743]

Replace the motor oil with Mayonnaise .

[@geemcspankinson]

Cruel

[@tudorcotoi7011]

Based Slav king

[@peetbronkhorst5473]

I've always wondered if grease could work

[@digitalchaos1980]

And replace the mayonnaise with motor oil! 😁

[@ninoproductionsc1468]

Just add water 🤣

[@andygoldensixties4201]

the sparks come from incandecent metal that's cut by the edge of the cutting disk, the flank of the cutting disk does not cut that much, though is for sure more abrasive than a standard clutch

[@danielclifton6140]

Gonna have the cleanest flywheel going......

[@scootergeorge7089]

Pressure plate too!!!

[@Sekir80]

The obvious next step is to make brake pads from these disk and polish your brake rotors. With some sparks, of course! :D

[@jannejohansson3383]

Or piston rings and fix some cylinders if those walls are too smooth and dosen't keep any oil in grooves....

[@teardowndan5364]

I was hoping they'd try "riding the clutch" going up a hill, see if the adhesive would actually survive the heat.

[@albertbinan9370]

When I see wacky stuff being done to cars on the title and the thumbnail, I just somehow just know it would be garage54 most of the time due to all the crazy stuff they do.

[@thedarkknight1971]

Pulling away in 2nd, maybe even 3rd would allow more clutch slip to 'Mate' the two surfaces together as well?

[@stormshadow9659]

Gotta be the most fun channel ever can't get enough of it 😆. love watching the antics on this channel , pure science 👍😆👍

[@jeeptrail08]

Still the best damn auto channel on KZbin! Best wishes to all the crew at 54 from the Missouri USA

[@Shagnasty]

This video today was very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Keep doing the ideas you get.

[@danielthegermanguy8978]

great video. i love the garage 54 experiments on cars!

[@jannejohansson3383]

Ten years later... "We have this x electric car, and we have other set of batteries too. Let's double the voltage and see how it happens.. I know it burns, but how it burns 🔥 "

[@modelnutty6503]

I'd love to be able to get a clean little Lada shell here in the US, they look to have a lot in common with early 1970's Datsun 510 halfway to a Datsun B210 sedan.

[@petelattimer6808]

before being a Lada, they were a Fiat 124 originally. VAZ bnought the rights to it when Fiat scrapped it as a current model, but they put locally sourced, cheaper engines in them, instead of the Fiat twin cam (from memory) engines, and the Lada was born!

[@samuelb6960]

I used an metal chop saw disc for a brake disc on a bucher wine press it lasted over a month to the end of harvest.

[@aspopulvera9130]

Among the experiments they did on the lada, the magnet suspension is my favorite

[@dj1NM3]

I would hazard a guess that clutch friction plates are made of a similar material to what grinder discs are made from, that's why it worked so well.

[@Dappersworth]

@@Joshie2256 I imagine this custom clutch would last longer if used like an on off switch so as to give the disc less time to abrade the flywheel and pressure plate. Also, if given time to make the disc wear enough to sit flat against the flywheel and pressure plate, making full contact with them, there would be less abrasion because the full force of the pressure plate would be spread more evenly across the disc.

[@appelmelk5664]

@@Dappersworth just press the brake and the gas at the same time and let the clutch burn

[@christophermorin9036]

This was exactly the result I thought would happen. The cutting discs are thicker than the original clutch material, so if anything I'd suspect the Lada would have a stiffer, more immediate clutch action.

[@williamjohansson691]

Could you try to make wheels out of flywheels? Like 2 per wheel (2 as a wheel) because I think that is going to be kind of fun, maybe even get more traction because of the teeth for the starter motor, like your videos!

[@adammosher1115]

That's one way to resurface the flywheel and clutch stuff

[@ransford470]

Suggestion: Brake line lock solenoid value, one on each wheel, each controled by a button, DIY traction control 😀

[@Digital_Love_Amsterdam]

Love the Lada on the wall … Great artwork …👍👍👍

[@knowledgeispowermediaprodu7094]

Hey brother, been subbed for a long time. I love your channel and content. I'm not trying to be inappropriate, but I just wanted to send you much love and an outstretched hand from a lot of us here in America. I wish you the very best my friend.

[@LITTLEEXPERIMENTCHANNEL1]

Eye opener, with safety glasses on mind!

[@x9417m]

was waiting for the massive clutch dump, still interesting video for sure

[@caprabogdaniulian1493]

Thats a revolutionary racing clutch assy, it lightens the flywheel on the go

[@twocvbloke]

Gives new meaning to "If you can't find it, grind it!!!"... :P

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

Wow! Very impressive! I call that a successful test!👌😎👍

[@Pete-or1jg]

If you cut (resurfaced) that flywheel before you installed your grinder clutch disk I bet it would've been worn perfectly for the most part with little grooving, hot spots/ bluing, with a smooth, and near complete contact area on the flywheel/ p.p. Could've probably even taken a Roloc disk or a "Cookie Wheel" to them rather than stick it in the lathe for folks that didn't have access to one, and it probably would've done the trick. Nice work! 😀

[@C-M-E]

Hot damn, finally something I've done Before Garage54! Had a tractor come in that needed a clutch that hadn't been made in 40 years. We tried this as proof of concept, then ended up doing a more proper version with phenolic resin, chopped carbon, silicon carbide, alumina, vacuum chamber and literal tons of pressure at 3000*. The friction discs didn't last very long nor tolerate heat like our carbon clutch did. 😁

[@patricknesbit2334]

Always with the cool things. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you put one of these in a more powerful, road worthy vehicle and drove it many miles under everyday driving conditions over a set period of time. Would it crap out or prove to be just as good or better than a regular one.

[@Tome13Eclipse]

I strongly doubt it'll perform better, since automobile manufacturers would use that instead cause it'd be cheaper, but i do suspect it'll hold a good time tho

[@stanley1554]

wow, this was FASCINATING!!

[@majordisappointment8692]

I bet if you slotted the abrasive disk it might have worked differently. Thank a very wild idea that worked well.

[@scootergeorge7089]

Perhaps... but it did work very well. I wish he would have did a bit more driving with it.

[@coolshirt]

Shit like this is what the internet is for. This channel is awesome.

[@Jefflantern483]

Yup that’s a 107% success & worked great in that Lada! 🙂🙂 Can’t kill a Lada! 🙂🙂

[@sbibbity_bobbity_bup]

this man just destroyed the clutch disc industry

[@kd7cwg]

We have a customer that has been thru 3 clutches in 6 months. Should just give them one if these 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Cjarka_]

considering that you can stall a a 230mm makita angle grinder while cutting a small piece of steel so a small contact area between the steel and the disc (it will rip you arms off but it's possible) it would make sense that it would make for an excellent clutch material, it has a LOT of grip make breaks from it now... instead of a cutting disc try using a grinding disc

[@misterdeedeedee]

no need to resurface the flywheel and replace the pressure plate, a grinder clutch will automatically surface and polish both saving you money!

[@ACupOfDuck]

Do a hill test! Try taking off and stand still just by using the cluch. Load the car heavy to really torture the cluch! The hotter it gets, the more sparks will fly.

[@crazylife6319]

long term testing and review!!

[@mike-drums-maine]

I must say, I enjoyed the background music. Not totally annoying like some other channels use.!! Thank You

[@nexomelian8577]

I think the whirring sound might have just been normal angle grinder noises 😂 this works too well

[@adamossowicz2611]

Awesome video, you guys never fail to impress! You guys always blow my mind!! Love from Australia, keep up the good work!

[@Taulksik]

What about a Diamond "Turbo" Grinding disc instead of a standard abrasive disc

[@mickeynismocat]

This is why i love this channel!

[@jimmyoller8055]

My stepdad once told me that he rebuilt a Buick engine using a leather strap or belt for the engine bearings I’d like to see if that would really work

[@OperatorKaoss]

Id love to see a massive heavy flywheel and clutch out of a truck on a lada vs the smallest and lightest flywheel and clutch you can find on one too

[@petelattimer6808]

in a way they already did that with the 5 (i think it was) flywheels on an engine

[@gerev2567]

Maybe try to "burn" the clutch with this disc. I wonder what will give up first, disc? Flywheel? Pressure plate?

[@TwinShards]

Next: Use a clutch disc to grind stuff.

[@1one3_Racing]

I never thought I'd watch a Russian doing rollbacks in a Lada with a grinding disc for a clutch.

[@jannejohansson3383]

So how clutch disks work in angle grinder????

[@jimbofaulty]

Turn a cutting disc into a set of brake pads

[@HotNoob]

yassss

[@hardboiledfrog]

These are the guys that will still have running cars long after the end of the world.

[@Surms41]

break distance and endurance test for breaks would be cool like others suggest!

[@adamgroszkiewicz814]

God bless the internet. Car guys are car guys no matter where they live.

[@AverilDoyle]

This is another video where I feel like it should have gone on longer. I am curious to see what would have happened when the whole surface of the friction material met the whole surface of the flywheel. Would it have felt like a softer engaging race clutch? Would it have slipped? 🤷‍♂️

[@MichaelRBaron]

Seeing as it performed as a stock clutch using only 5% of the available surface area, if you let that wear in, it wouldn't be street drivable. You'd have a goddamned Stage 6 racing clutch.

[@oby-1607]

This is the kind of diy stuff we all need to see. Too much giving all of our money to the corporations. Yaah, angle grinder disc clutch. That glue is something else.

[@user-pwfus]

You should run this clutch for an extended period of time the test of time and see how many km you can get.

[@NeillWylie]

Wonderful video! Fantastic content!

[@ownerfate]

Should try a long-term test drive to see how long it lasts

[@Driftingkalamari]

Very interesting results!

[@99_friety]

That’s a new meaning for grinding gears.

[@Cmm4626]

I havnt watched this yet but i have high hopes!

[@TheSaif78]

Use a radiator as a muffler

[@jacklarson6281]

congrats guys, you just invented a new way to resurface your fly wheel and pressure plate

[@Holy_Moley]

Doesn't surprise me that it works. Just don't think it will have the same durability. Once all the grit is off the disc, will it continue to work as a clutch disc? That's what I want to know.

[@idiotburns]

That will be a good experiment 🔬

[@larryphillips4164]

Epic. Do a video showing your top 10 best working ideas in a compilation.

[@scootergeorge7089]

Set a Lada on a raft or in a boat, remove the rear axle, extend the driveshaft, and connect it to a propeller and go power boating!

[@Marauder1981]

My most favorite christmas memories: dad backing us friction disks.

[@samsungtvset3398]

Why are clutch disc friction linings riveted on and not glued to the backing metal like brake pads are? Do they flex a bit and that would break the glue?

[@jimburgess9205]

Great experiment

[@BADBILLY]

Do a DIY Wet clutch.

[@gaboniepie5567]

nice subaru forester in the background o.O

[@XRP_Profit]

good way to resurface the pressure plate

[@TowerCrisis]

I'm sure all that abrasive dust is great for the lathe ways 😂

[@01B3000]

Car hack: how to never have to resurface your flywheel ever again.

[@mohdhalimamat7877]

Should try with the thicker grinding wheel

[@kjuirteerdserty9618]

That is going to wear out the flywheel...

[@chronobot2001]

I love these guys and their creativity. Why would we ever want to go to war with these guys? I would much rather have them as friends.

[@wadeepperson6906]

I swear these guys have unlimited lada engines on hand 😆

[@whitneydesignlabs8738]

Cool. Fun experiment. Subscribed. :)

[@jamest.5001]

Should have went with the smooth side out, it has more surface contact than the rough side!

[@ardennielsen3761]

barrel plow? V8 drift car, welded diff, 5/8 inch gr8 tire chains... made it as a joke but it actually works.

[@supersmalls]

hmm after this video, can you guys try filling up a torque converter with fine sand to see if it will still work. Maybe seal it off from gearbox so its just the impeller between the engine and gearbox.

[@ianhames2465]

take off the expanded friction disc edges with a diamond or another course stone. I'd like to see the pressure plate and flywheel ground clean.

[@streetguru9350]

What about using super glue with some kind of mesh for better grip on the material? Like you're in an emergency situation, or mega low budget and you just gotta get it somewhere?

[@jannejohansson3383]

Why you don't made tool jig from flywheel and press-system. It would push it equally and even centering it if you just add few tabs around disc.. but this is nice. In long term glue cannot handle those forces. Spinning ones and heat.. add those rivets, then no problem. And.. "surface area does not affect the amount of friction" Sintered discks clutches have very small surface areas. And those are still 'on-off' clutches. There could be some real world applications for this self-made thingy in rally or some.. Nice work..

[@aaronwalter1549]

god damn. maybe try nore custom clutch disks. like carbon fiber or rubber. i wonder if the plate had teeth and the clutch had a plyable material like rubber or fabric if that would work.

[@aaronwalter1549]

i mean thw flywheel! not the plate lol