Using an original Papillote Iron for the first time in 300 years

[@echo2893]

Thank you so much for posting this. I found this video to be absolutely fascinating. This would be a great addition to an historical reenactment day; demonstrating 17th century hair dressing. Thanks again!

[@Microsity]

I once papillote curled two huge wigs. it took SO LONG but it was so worth it.

[@meeeka]

My grandmother used to do this for our housekeeper: i remember. She used to heat the iron on the gas stove burner, much safer than shoveling coals. Also one should never use butter on a burn: it will continue the cooking of your skin. Use cold water or better, ice.

[@DuskSunDawn]

In my opinion, the best product is onion. Ice is good for bruises. It's not a good idea to put something very cold (water becomes ice at 0ºC) on a burn because the area is very sensitive.

[@laured.821]

In my family we use half a potato on the burned skin and it soothes the pain, otherwise yep cold water but i have a mixed opinion on ice too

[@tamir.7888]

pickle juice. hands down. navy kitchen tip. pain stops on contact.

[@catladylayne3285]

The pickle juice is a good idea. Mustard also works. Anything with vinegar will take the sting out of a 1st degree burn.

[@aought2]

Check out "Papillote Curls: historical hairdressing techniques" by Janet Stephens on KZbin for a nice tutorial on the technique.

[@LBCCHistorical]

Yes. That is the video I refer to in this video.

[@aought2]

:) Missed that. Love your vids, I find the Georgian/Early American Era interesting. I'm not too far from Newtown Battlefield State Park, where they do a great job of putting on a battle reenactment.

[@NihonKitty]

OMG that's so amazing. I'm so jealous, I would love to have my hair curled using something that has that much history.

[@OofusTwillip]

I collect old beauty trade magazines. In the 1920s, the "New Paper Curl" technique was launched with a lot of fanfare. It used exactly the same style of tongs as in the 18th Century (heated in a small gas-stove), the same triangles of paper, and the same technique. The only difference was that the hair was much shorter, so the curls were more poodle-like. The same technique came back again, about 10 years ago, again advertised as "the revolutionary new..." This time, the equipment was different (multiple "C-Shell" clamps, heated like hot rollers), but the technique was the same as it was in the 18th Century.

[@LBCCHistorical]

Fascinating! Thanks for sharing!

[@jennsteele4430]

Wow so nice. You have so much patience! This would also make a beautiful antebellum southern lady look. Amazing work you are doing.

[@blissgirl9052]

This video was amazing! I love that you were to determined in your search and so brave to try the curler out! And how beautiful those curls ended up being! All you folks looked great and it was just a huge treat to see this video. Thanks bunches for sharing!

[@sophroniel]

interesting. I was always taught to curl towards the face, with the stems to the back, round my finger. I used to have to do this kind of curling when I did Irish dancing allll over my hair as rag curls always fell out so quick

[@LBCCHistorical]

I would think using a hard historical pomatum would have helped them stay longer

[@onetwothree9]

this is one of those things where I wonder just how people figured that it was a good idea. "Hey let´s put this burning hot piece of iron really close to someone´s head! And so we don´t burn off the hair, let´s wrap it into this piece of paper that incedentally also burns really well. Oh, would you look at that, this actually worked!"

[@LBCCHistorical]

I completely agree! I wonder that about a lot of things. :)

[@Cocoadragon]

so cool. This similar to the way my mother curled my hair when I was younger.with a metal straightening come and curling iron

[@MightyMouse1222]

i use the tissue wrap method with a flat iron because my hair doesnt curl by conventional methods.

[@naseerahvj]

MightyMouse1222 yes I've been wanting to try this because my hair dosnt typically hold curls well

[@MightyMouse1222]

naseerahvj I use a heat activated curling spray and a heat protector. wrap the hair around my fingers like I'm doing a pin curl, put a single bobby pin in it to hold it while i fold the tissue paper, pull the pin and wrap the tissue paper. use the flat iron just like they are doing here with the iron.

[@naseerahvj]

MightyMouse1222 I wish this would work with me have you tried bigger curls?

[@MightyMouse1222]

naseerahvj no. my hair is layered and down to my waist. i use 3 fingers for the curls and they turn out amazing

[@tamir.7888]

its a prehistoric marcel iron ... press it on paper and if it turns orange its too hot

[@ashleydeaton4842]

I love this. I'm very much interested in historical hair dos and love learning new ways to do it

[@dscrystalline]

I loved watching this, thank you LBCC for being awesome!

[@tetelestaicreations5740]

this was so great. I truly appreciate your time and effort.

[@estelleetoile2225]

This is amazing! Thank you soo much for sharing! I hope you can come to London one day! Xx

[@LBCCHistorical]

Thank You! I hope so too!

[@Biogrrrl]

Why do guys always feel the need to pull on curls?

[@cecilyerker]

Because it's fun to see them bounce like a spring.

[@nica93]

Brushing out the curls might have made them look fuller and more natural, but this was a really interesting. Maybe also trying to wrap the hairs in muslin with small clips at the top while the curls cool off to set? :) love your videos would like to visit your apothecary shop!

[@naseerahvj]

Nica Teix once you are used to this technique you would leave the curls undisturbed in the papers to set until ready to style

[@Rose-jz6sx]

You're not supposed to put pomade in which is why they're not full

[@lulanm9000]

When I do my brows with the burnt cloves. I like to go very dark. Almost black. I love the look! Did anyone ever do that in the 18th century by any chance?

[@LBCCHistorical]

Yes- Dark eyebrows with a lovely half moon curve were very popular!

[@LordWellington100]

Ok this is awesome well done

[@celinec2483]

Is the paper also like a heat protection for the hair

[@LBCCHistorical]

Yes! very much so!

[@romiosnl]

Lovley ! I'm working as a make-up artist new of the technique and wish we could use this on the set. The problem is time. To get stronger curls you can even so roll the hair around a stick, or a papillot stick. In an other vid you are mention that paper got thinner during the end of the 18th century. So the conclusion would be that this technique is of the end of the 18the century but that is not the fact. The technique is evenso used in the 17th century. Perhaps without paper or rich-paper that was imported by the VOC in Holland. Loved that you are used pomade I made that my self even so and used that. Contained goat grease, resin and bergamot. Bye bye.

[@MithrilMagic]

This was so cool! Where is this fair?

[@LBCCHistorical]

This was done at the Macktown Living History Center, IL for an event called Years Of Napoleon. facebook.com/pages/Macktown-Living-History-Educational-Center/193129620772

[@SkyeID]

I would test that iron on a human hair wig first, before trying it on an actual person's head!

[@ctennyo13]

I loved seeing the trial and error. where did you find it, was it a surprise antiquing find or did you go looking for it?

[@LBCCHistorical]

I searched for 5 years to find one. In that time I saw 2 of them on Ebay which went for a few thousand dollars. Then I decided to search other categories that I thought if one would show up it may be thought to be a "candle snuffer". So I finally found one that was under 1,000.00 lol. But I don't think a video like this has ever been made. As far as I know they are pretty rare. I just found out of one other person that has one. She found it mislabeled in Ebay too.

[@iamcerridwen]

right as she said burning Christina's hair off 101, my clock read 1:01

[@Ac76543211]

Could the same look be achieved using a curling iron?

[@LBCCHistorical]

+Ac76543211 - It would be nice if it could - but it's not the same type of curl and by using the papillote method they last longer than a curling iron - but in general a curling iron doesn't produce the same type of curl. It's similar but not exact.

[@Komichi]

Ac76543211 Not quite, but you can replicate the technique with tissue paper and an electric hair straightener.

[@LBCCHistorical]

Yes! That you can! I have even seen tinfoil being used. :)

[@codename9824]

LBCC Historical the foil works well for thick or long hair since it holds a bit better and takes longer to cool.

[@fatalrob0t]

This probably wouldn't work on my hair. My hair gets really awfully oily after a day and it never holds a curl. It holds a crimp from being braided, but doesn't hold a curl. My hair is also exceptionally slippery and pulls out of styles quickly. About the only way I get any grip is if I use dry shampoo in it.

[@lydiajayne7956]

Because papillote curls are made while in a little package (made of tissue paper or aluminum foil), they heat up and then cool down in the same shape and it helps them to hold better. My hair is awful to curl too, and other than having using tons of hairspray and keeping my hair in rollers for 16+ hours, the only other method that curls my hair is the papillote method. You can use a straightening iron if you don't have an original iron, too.

[@lydieluck7753]

Wow this is awesome!! Thanks so much for filming this experiment with historical hairdressing. I'm in cosmetology school so this is stuff I research for fun haha 😂. I have to ask where did you get the papillote iron from??

[@LBCCHistorical]

I spent years looking for one. I finally found one on E-Bay. :)

[@lydieluck7753]

LBCC Historical im surprised things as old as this would be circulating on e-bay but then you never know haha! I'll have to do some digging to see if I can get my hands on one. I'd love to experiment with it on a friend, my hair is only shoulder length so not really long enough to curl.

[@LBCCHistorical]

Shoulder length is plenty long. :) The trick is... people don't know what they are, so you have to randomly think of what they "may be listed as". Although I have to say since we started trying to get this info out there.. I now see them listed correctly as Papillote Irons... previous to us- they would show up in really random places.

[@nokomarie1963]

Looks like fun, but my hair takes so long to grow. Pin curls for mee-ee!

[@thatladynikki]

It reminds me of a hot comb

[@AdelaideBeemanWhite]

The bellybutton piercing story has made me feel intensely uncomfortable!

[@countrygirl71267]

she looks younger with the front ringlets.

[@drekfletch]

I think you could learn to do this on yourself. Since, if you leave the curls in the papillotes until finished, you're not pushing curls out of the way. It doesn't look much more complicated than french braiding your hair. Just more time consuming.

[@LBCCHistorical]

I would agree! Also new flat irons are a lot lighter than the original Papillote irons- so it would be a lot easier on your wrist!