Using Battery 4 In Logic Pro X (Best Workflow)

[@kaysha]

Since I started using Battery, I was never able to miove to something else. Great for creating your drumkits but also importing my old Akai s5000 libraries

[@stefanguy]

+Kaysha hey Kaysha, totally agree bro. Such a great drum sampler!

[@jimmydewit7319]

Loud and clear. That was a great help, you just saved me hours and hours of work. thanks !

[@stefanguy]

Glad you found the video helpful!

[@jaredmarshall9439]

Stefan you are the absolute best man. Quick, concise, and informative. Not to mention your music is unreal. Keep up the great work.

[@stefanguy]

Thanks Jared, appreciate it bro!

[@jaredmarshall9439]

@@stefanguy Any time! I primarily use logic which seems to be a little underrated in the hip hop producing world (I could be wrong though) because I love the composition side of things so much. Do you have any Artist channels or albums of some of your finished works, or beats that artists have done vocals over? I'd love to hear a finished product (if such a thing exists) that you have done.

[@LouisBaker]

Legend. Very helpful brother.

[@milky4814]

Straight in, No messin. Perfect...

[@silversulu]

This was straightfoward, short and hella helpful - Thanks!

[@stefanguy]

+Silver Sulu you're welcome man thanks!

[@matsalentun3218]

Excellent video, exactly what I needed to set up Battery 4 in Logic. Many thanks!

[@robertsinnerman7804]

Massive help Stefan. Clear, concise and to the point. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

[@stefanguy]

Thanks Robert! Glad I could help!

[@Zancb]

as always your videos are top notch. Thanks Stefan!

[@stefanguy]

+Zan. Thanks Zan :)

[@TrafoxTra]

Thanks Stefan greetings from Sénégal West Africa 😎

[@najaythechosen1472]

i would like to know this as well

[@KidHellacious]

Thanks Stefan. You’ve been such a great help over the years.

[@marcusjayallen]

Life changing!

[@JasonLeVega]

Really nice breakdown of how and why. Big thanks!

[@mickla409]

Thanks Stefan. Good, quick, informative video.

[@stefanguy]

+Mick La40 thanks Mick!

[@jimmaletich6524]

So efficient and to the point. Thank you!!!

[@tobythehatmusic]

So good Stefan, I was going nuts trying to work this out, saved me so much stressing out, Thank You😁👍

[@stefanguy]

Haha glad I could help!!

[@DigitalFacts]

That was really helpful. Thanks for explaning your setup.

[@stefanguy]

Glad you found it helpful and you're welcome!

[@murahachibu]

Great video! Thanks!

[@stefanguy]

Thanks!

[@jjvillafane86]

Great video bro! Keep it up!

[@stefanguy]

Thanks Juan!

[@kevindoubleday7959]

This is extremely helpful - thanks for the tutorial!

[@stefanguy]

Hey Kevin, glad I could help!

[@westerncavemuzik9176]

REALLY HELPED 💯 THANKS BRO

[@stefanguy]

Glad i could help bro!

[@jaymcnally7482]

Nice one Stefan, thanks.

[@stefanguy]

Thanks Alan

[@1drsy]

You had my full attention from the beginning to the end of the video 😂✌️

[@stefanguy]

Haha 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 much love! 👊🏾✌🏾

[@dondevon]

Thanks man 🙏🏾👨🏾‍💻👨🏾‍🍳

[@stefanguy]

You're welcome brother!

[@alexinphx1411]

Excellent! So much better than16 instances of Battery 4. This is a great way to keep your system load down. Thank you! UPDATE: What about step sequencing? I can't seem to get 1/16 or 1/32 repeats on my tracks. Only on the main Battery track...

[@bycmano3878]

Amazing. Short sweet & simple

[@lazychap6175]

Hey stefan thanks so much for this,, can you please upload a more detailed video about how you work with battery..?? would apreciate it so so so much!

[@Znedi]

Great Video Man cheers

[@stefanguy]

Thanks man!

[@bgh123bgh]

Hi Stefan, great video. Is there a way to save a template of the routing and set up, or do you do this every time you open a project? Thanks, Ben

[@monikamia9476]

Thank you very much, very clear, to the point :)

[@pirre6404]

Nice one! Thanks a lot, great work.

[@murahachibu]

Love it! Thanks!

[@stefanguy]

You're welcome!

[@autumnstinar689]

Wow, really helpful!

[@stefanguy]

You're welcome Autumn!

[@robertgoldbornatyout]

Thank you Stefan

[@stefanguy]

You’re welcome Robert thanks for watching!

[@danielqmark]

Crazy helpful, thank you.

[@stefanguy]

Glad I could help bro!

[@bezalelthecreative8503]

I realised the Battery 4 allows non-Maschine owners access to its built-in plugin: Sampler. I tried studying Battery 4 just to discover all features are the same from my Maschine's sampler.

[@theredmeatguy6186]

Thats awesome thank you

[@MrBuckshot18]

Could you please do a video that shows how to control different roll speeds for high hats within battery. I want to be able to press down one pad and have a 1/8 hi hat roll then press down on the second pad and have a 1/16 roll

[@JohnathanHolmes-e6b]

Hey Thanks for the vid! VERY helpful! However, when I set my custom input/output settings to 8 stereo, 16 mono (or any setting for that matter) in Battery 4, I see the mono inputs available in the logic mixer in the input dropdown. However, when I try to route my cells in Battery 4 to the corresponding output, mono outputs are not available as shown in your video. Just stereo outputs. I checked my mix-chain for any plugins that may be causing this but still no joy. Any suggestions? Any direction would be greatly appreciated!

[@ChloeClive]

I do not have the battery plug in but wow it looks great!

[@electropunkzero]

I would have never figured this out on my own

[@stefanguy]

Glad I could help!

[@VICTORKARO]

thanks alot buddy

[@RevilloMusic]

Great guy! Thank you! Cleared up a lot of questions I had. However it doesn't work for me. It get's waaaay too loud. I tried it with a Kick. Sounds like it is the double amount of loudness. I believe I followed all your steps mentioned.

[@brianmulvahill]

Useful! Thanks

[@stefanguy]

Thanks Brian!

[@mariocalderon910]

Cool! I have an extra question tho, How do I export each track individualy after im done?

[@isaacn.1836]

Hey Man! If I wanted to layer, say 2 kicks for example, would you recommend I set both cells output to the same track? Or would you recommend I set them in two separate tracks like KickA and KickB?

[@caleb2758]

can u do a video about how to use battery and maybe make a beat using

[@toddthomas4761]

Stefan... thanks for the videos... How to you use Battery to assign samples to hardware? I'm looking at the Akai MPD and wondering how to set it up in Battery!

[@TheShreddiekrueger]

great vid! Say, is it possible to do all of the cell matrix routing before choosing the samples to create templates without chosen sounds?

[@TMorelli07]

My Logic Pro X always adds in some reverb channels when I add an virtual instrument. Is there a way to stop this from happening??

[@rogeriobarros4963]

Great post buddy. How if I just want to play a song on guitar with a preset drum of a music. I want to do cover of some songs.

[@SoundSignals]

As always, an excellent video Stefan! I don't often use Battery for my drums, so this was a good introduction to this approach to producing beats in Logic. But it did kind of leaving me wanting to know a lot more, where does this lead? Tips and tricks, workflow styles, what are the advantages of Battery over other means in Logic, logic drummer, maschine, ultrabeat etc, does it sound better etc. I've been trying to get to grips with Logic drummer and wondered if you might do an in-depth video on it? I would really like to know how to add my own drum samples in the default choice menu after you have created a track with a particular drummer. I know how to create my own kit with an 'empty kit' and drum machine designer and also how to change a particular drum sound in the ultrabeat once the beat is created. I have tried to drag my own sounds into the folder where the default sounds are kept, but Logic won't allow it. Any suggestions, tips? Am I wasting my time with the approach. Thanks again, best wishes, Andy.

[@stefanguy]

+thewayfarer72 hey Andy, firstly thanks again as always! Secondly using battery is very similar to using ultrabeat but with more power and flexibility and with a much better user interface. (It's much quicker to add samples). I can do a video on what you've mentioned. If I can get it to work myself. I think i've tried placing the samples in the default library folders also. I can't remember how it went to be honest. I was trying different things when trying to make Trap Attack DMD. I'll give it another crack and get back to you! Thanks for the content!

[@SoundSignals]

Stefan Guy sounds great man! I really look forward to that! There isn't another video on KZbin covering this, trust me I've looked! And you are right about the ultrabeat, it is not user friendly, it's ugly man! It makes me give up exploring rhythms. So Battery looks like a much better option for me to explore. But, what i love about the Drummer is how instantly it generates rhythms, intuits the rhythm and nuances of my samples and comes up with rhythms to suit the sample and also rhythms i might not necessarily have come up with myself. It seems like the Logic folk have put a lot of energy and investment into it. I also like the multitude of different effects settings on each the default drum elements (sub bass on the bass drums, wave shape, saturation etc). Whereas when you create your own kit you only get limited options. Obviously the default options have way more because they are chosen for the nature of that particular drum sound and you would have to bear that in mind whilst setting up your own sounds i guess. There is of course the 'load sample' option on the ultrabeat..... Coming from an MPC background, slogging the beat out on the pads, i am quite happy for the Logic drummer to do the programming work for me! I know that sounds lazy, but it is a welcome addition to me it as it frees me up to explore other aspects of the song. I guess I am just looking for other ways to improve using the logic drummer method with my own vinyl sampled drums collection. So, yeah any help with that is much appreciated! My apologies for the essay length comment!

[@steveleslie4628]

@@SoundSignals Convert the Drummer pattern you've created to MIDI. Then create a separate track for the MIDI of each kit piece. Then apply your favourite sampled drums to each kit piece.

[@masakazu_07]

Sorry for this basic question but what are the biggest advantages of buying Battery 4 oppose to just using the standard logic pro x drums and plugins?

[@kevindoubleday7959]

The samples are generally a lot better in Battery (most of the native Logic ones are pretty bad), and the interface is a lot easier to use than any out of the box sampler. I definitely recommend it

[@RogerSartet007]

Is there a way to show or hide that 'little plus sign' on the bottom? I don't see any (Logic Pro 10.4.8). Thanks for your valuable tutorials

[@RogerSartet007]

...Or is why you created the 8 stereos and monos in Battery beforehand, the reason why the icon appears in the first place?

[@RogerSartet007]

It's the latter I just figured it out. See, that's how a tutorial becomes 'valuable' : It puts a man to work ;-)

[@marceldiazdeleon6062]

Yeah thnx, but what happens if i want all in mono chanells? In logic show me stereo first than mono.

[@MissMyoozikal]

Thank you!

[@stefanguy]

You’re welcome :)

[@JaredSmithTheIntern]

This is super helpful bro. Quick question though, is there any reason to prefer a mono channel over a stereo channel? Is it ever a problem to have a kick be stereo as opposed to mono? Thanks!

[@mamalarén]

Great tutorial! I don't have the option to make the output a mono one (3:13). How can I fix this?

[@stefanguy]

+Imani Lindsay thanks Imani. Did you do the step at 0.56 and restart Battery?

[@mamalarén]

I can't believe I missed that. Thank you so much!

[@KICHANOV]

🔥🔥🔥

[@bycmano3878]

What about for key mapping? If I set multiple instruments to say, c0-c1, will they overlap or will each channel be treated as its own key zone?

[@starsmash7491]

hey man. you've helped me a lot with your videos. Is there a way to change the default midi mapping in battery? I am using my MK3 pads and changing the key range within battery to map to my pads, but whenever i load a new drum kit, it reverts back to the default battery mapping which skips notes all over the place and is non-linear. very inconvenient.

[@benouaafrika6609]

Yo its year 2021(November) i use logic pro X and i use Maschine Software inside Logic for drums and other samples from their expansions. Would you still buy Battery 4 in my case?

[@billymack4258]

Hi everyone, is there anyway to get Battery 4 to play back a midi track created from Ez Drummer 2 midi groove libraries ? It doesn't seem to trigger Ez drummers midi notes correct. If so could you please explain in detail how to do this . I'm using Cubase Pro 9.5 MacBook pro Thanks!----

[@dj_laylow]

hello sir great tutorial! i just need to ask something, when i upload a sample and put key trigger on they overlap with eachother. How can i get that off?

[@cabrawl473]

Great video but how come when I separate them to their own track (all in stereo)and output, the fx in battery(delay, reverb) don’t carry over unless it’s on stereo output 1&2?

[@jefftX]

Hey dude awesome video. Quick question, I'm probably going to buy battery, but right now the native instruments complete edition is on sale that comes with like 40 more things some synths, piano, etc. do you think this is a good purchase? I make all types of music from electronic to rap beats to piano songs, and I'm looking to upgrade my sound selections from the included ones in logic. Also, right now I only use the built in logic drums. Does battery work the same way as those? Like when I record with battery, do the midi notes show up and can I move them around etc within logic?

[@mrkamerer]

Stefan, what is your controller of choice when using Battery? It seems like the Battery template on Maschine is pretty basic so I’m wondering if you’re using a different controller for any reason...

[@RaduJon]

Perfect video! You've got yourself another subscriber.. I'm wondering if anyone's encountered this issue I'm having.. Battery 4.1.6 keeps on scanning for its default library when you open it up. So even if it's been running and active, each time I click on it to bring up the Battery on screen, it starts scanning the library and it's frustrating as it takes a while to do it. The only trick to go around it is to click the back / next arrows to select another patch, or the COMPARE button. This stops the scanning, but now you've just exit from your sample selections, and if you haven't saved your patch in advance, you've just lost it all. I've tried installing, reinstalling older versions ( Battery 3, Battery 4.1.5 ) and I'm only having the issue with 1.4.6 Is it just a bug that I should wait it out for the next update or is there a way to fix it ? I've tried removing the libraries from the preferences tab and even removing the folders from the hard drive just to see how the plugin reacts. Either way the same result - if you close out the Battery window, the next time you open it up it will start scanning again. Thanks for the input!!

[@TranceformRecordings]

yes and its really really really annoying!

[@s.o793]

when you create tracks for each pads, and then group them together, why is there only a recording button on cymbals? can i record simultaneously on 2 or more tracks? like doing a beat on the pads and each respective pad record on it's own track, but all at the same time?

[@Vishigang]

I'm only getting 4 stereo outputs (1/2 - 3/4 - 5/6 - 7/8) and 24 mono channels, no matter what I change in the 'Engine' tab of the Battery Preferences. I do however get the right amount of outputs in the Logic Mixer (8x mono - 8x stereo). Your video also shows the other stereo outputs within Battery. @Stefan or anyone else know what the deal is? ps. thanks for all the great tuts and vids Stefan!

[@timbalandhits8]

how do i set it up so the note stops when i pick up my finger and then re triggers instead​ of playing the whole loop

[@studio.hermit]

Hey Stefan, nice Video as always. I don't get the point why it is better to have the kick or snare etc. in Mono what is the reason? Thank you :)

[@stefanguy]

Hey Fabian thanks man. Check out these two great articles on the importance of mono in a stereo mix, it'll probably change your approach going forward - theproaudiofiles.com/mono-in-a-stereo-mix/ and theproaudiofiles.com/mono-in-a-stereo-mix-part-2/ let me know what you think.

[@studio.hermit]

A whole new world of choices and ideas, thank you! I already knew that listening in mono is important but now it is much clearer why. I will try the EQ side - mid Filter trick on my fav tracks to hear what the producer did and how some decisions effect the mix. 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@stefanguy]

+Fabian Ott awesome man, it blew me away too when I learned about it! I think it has definitely improved my mixes too 🙌🏾

[@EnveChris]

Thanks :-) One thing I miss, though, is to be able to use different kits from Battery 4 in the same one group. Do I understand it correctly, that you can only stay within one kit at a time when you make a multiple output drum group like here? So if I want to use, say, 3 different Barrety kits in one session I have to make 3 multiple output groups? Thanks, Chris/Hoyer Songs

[@stefanguy]

Hey Chris, yes that's right my friend. As far as I'm away anyways.

[@DoglessEndeavor]

A great tutorial, thank you! But has this stopped working for anybody else recently, especially in Mojave? No matter what I do, the cell output options I get are always 4x Stereo and 24x Mono. I've tried it about 50 times with every tweak I can imagine, and I still only get those output options. Even if I load Battery in 16x Mono, I still get the 4x Stereo outputs. So frustrating.

[@ItsTommiii]

Is there any way to let these have their own midi data. When I record my drums it only records the drums in one midi channel instead of the midi channel it belongs to.

[@teunpolderman1104]

Yes! I have that too, i really wish there was a nice way of doing this instead of recording all of the elements one by one and then draging them to the right spot. If you’ve found a solution please let me know, thanks

[@Isaac-xm1bp]

@@teunpolderman1104 exactly! Everybody who does a tutorial on battery 4 routing only records their drum elements one by one, I like doing multiple drums at once though and would love if the midi data went to their own individual channels

[@NeilWall]

Perhaps, as a workaround, consider selecting specific notes in the event list after recording and change the MIDI channels there. You could probably extract by channel to different tracks after that if you wanted to.

[@mattsaljanin583]

i would appreciate help, when I click in instrument, battery does not pop up as an option. Do i have to download it

[@stefanguy]

Hey, yeah Battery is a 3rd party product by Native Instruments that needs to be purchased in addition to the Logic Pro X you already own.

[@mattsaljanin583]

@@stefanguy much appreciated !

[@popdanish4969]

I have a question. Some samples in battery 4 have two samples within one. So, in editor, it looks like one sample is stacked on the other. I would like to know if it’s possible to separate these two? Because there’s this bad sine sound under this nice percussion effect that I want to edit out but I can’t find a way. Any help is appreciated I’m very new.

[@stefanguy]

Hey man could you send me a screen shot of it via stefanguy.com/contact or let me know the name of the sound and what kit it's from is possible. Thanks!

[@peterpowell5189]

We’re u using the mk3 in midi mode?

[@titansilva24]

Hi I just got Battery 4 and I can't seem to record. My sounds are under user instead of factory. Does this make a difference? I pick the sound I want and hit record and it sounds but it's like the track isn't armed. Any advice?

[@stefanguy]

Hey Kristian, User sounds are ones you've saved or created. Library is where the stock samples that come with Battery 4 + any Native Instruments expansion pack samples should live. I would check that those are installed. You can do this by going to Native Access on your computer. Let me know.

[@titansilva24]

@@stefanguythank you for the reply I think I figured it out now!

[@ItsTommiii]

Question. What if I already made a track in battery and all of the components are in 1 track? Is it possible to actually separate them by making a 16 set I/o?

[@stefanguy]

+It's A Tommy yep, same process. You should be able to switch it to 16 and have the samples remain in the battery. Alternatively save the battery kit and create a new instance. Load the kit and then drag the MIDI down onto the new track. You can have one track in the arrange window and have multiple channels in the mixer linked to that one track. I hope that makes sense.

[@yashamarkovskyy3059]

Where do I get battery 4?

[@vazen33]

Does this save CPU by multi-outputing with just one Battery instance?

[@stefanguy]

Most definitely!

[@vibrantog8102]

HEY Stephan, I did everything here but nothing is showing up in logic

[@kisahanii]

Anyone know if Battery comes with stock sounds or will I have to download sounds and add them to it?

[@stefanguy]

Hey man, it comes with stock sounds :)

[@kisahanii]

@@stefanguy thanks, man! Really appreciate your vids:)

[@FreshRichi]

Empowering Aspiring and Seasoned Beat Makers as per usual I see! 👀🎶 lol #HBM Bless!!!

[@stefanguy]

+Fresh Richi haha thanks for all the support broski some sick stuff coming soon!

[@Larrythebassman]

💥✨🥃🍿💥👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Good job 🎬

[@LogicKeyz]

I didn't under stand the concept until you broke it down visually. this even though I read it in the manual.

[@stefanguy]

Glad I could help brother!

[@Mrgetdoe]

HOW DO I DOWNLOAD BATTERY 4?

[@stefanguy]

Hey bro www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/drums/battery-4/

[@mbvmbvmbv]

exs24 or battery 4 ???

[@stefanguy]

Battery 4 you have a lot more control over your samples and visually it’s much better.

[@mbvmbvmbv]

Stefan Guy thanks for the fast reply, are you familiar with maschine? if so, would you say having battery 4 is like having maschine inside your daw? from what it seems, it’s as if battery 4 is just the sampler from maschine without the NI hardware such as the mikro, studio, etc.

[@stefanguy]

Hey sorry for the not so fast reply this time lol. Yes very similar with Maschine. You can check out my tutorials on it here: kzbin.info/aero/PLP4WDU63v24GYd7i4srN-is6013WVO8cg but in answer to your question not quite. Maschine still has one up on battery if you plan on sampling music. BUT if you're just using Maschine inside of Logic to program drums yes you might as well use Battery 4. Maschine is best used with the standalone software.

[@benouaafrika6609]

High from Mauritius island.

[@ghstfce149]

quick question, can't seem to find the answer anywhere, how do you import sounds and drum kits into exs24 without getting distortion on some of the tracks? thanks & your videos are a big help!

[@stefanguy]

+darrion schure hey brother, you shouldn't be getting distortion at all that's strange. Where are the samples from and do they distort when you play them in finder for example.

[@ghstfce149]

its random, its happened from samples I bought and ones I've got for free, they all sound normal when I play them in finder/itunes but when put into exs24 they are distorted

[@stefanguy]

+darrion schure are these drum samples. Have you tried Ultrabeat instead?

[@ghstfce149]

Stefan Guy yes, but i haven't i will give it a try! Thanks

[@S2keyz]

Less cool when u have to export the project but great way to work tho

[@francissreckofabian01]

Is this the video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqitlWiImZuLos0 - there is a 43 second add before you start talking. You mention Good Friday (so it was sometime in April)

[@stefanguy]

Hey Francis, I'm talking about Kontakt 5 in that video. Both Native Instruments and pretty much the same implementation though. I'm sure that I did post it at some point because it was heavily requested.

[@francissreckofabian01]

Bugger. You are right! It was my bed time 21 minutes ago. I should have gone to bed but its hard to stop watching youtube. Sorry about that. Concentration is gone for today. Cheers.

[@stefanguy]

Hahaha what time is it where you are?

[@francissreckofabian01]

almost 10.30pm.

[@stefanguy]

+Francis Srečko Fabian yeah i'm in bed usually by 10 lol

[@ProductofELI]

I hate battery just got it and the drums are pretty weak

[@stefanguy]

Hey man, to be honest I use my own samples with it. Or ones from Splice. The drums found in the expansion packs are better though in my opinion.

[@ProductofELI]

Stefan Guy yea man I’ve been using splice and reddit for a while, just threw them in the exs24 sampler but it was just a let down lol I wish I could get my money back.

[@stefanguy]

Oh man, I didn’t realise Native didn’t do refunds. 😅 I still prefer it to the Ultrabeat though. That thing is a hot mess man lol, they need to redesign that ASAP! You can do some cool things with Battery 4 if you really dive i to it. But I do get it, if a big part of the reason you bought it was for the samples then it’s a let down.

[@ProductofELI]

Stefan Guy yea never really used ultra beat, Logic stock stuff is alright. I wouldn’t use any stock sounds in logic but I use to when I started off.. But yea native instruments doesn’t refund software when it’s already registered lol.

[@jamesjames77777]

Mono drums on a stereo track are still mono drums 🤦‍♂️

[@griiseknoen]

Thanks for a great video!

[@workdiveconnection]

Thank you!!!