Using containers to stack high yield farms for urban produce

[@enquire422]

Your channel is pure Heaven!

[@TheKarmaMan]

Very good narration and exposition of the workings of the indoor self-contained process. The narrator is more articulate with English as perhaps his second language than I am with it as my first.

[@cameronempey8350]

As always everything you produce amazing no fancy editing no unneeded bullshit just amazing content thank you for everything you do you're videos make my day!

[@SkandalouzStyle]

That is absolutely brilliant! I love that. Politicians don't solve problems, engineers solve problems.

[@jayw6034]

This is exactly what plant growing needs to be. Wonderful! There is going to need to be an abundance economy, without which we'd suffer from social disparity to the extreme, with this we are one section closer to making enough everything for everyone.

[@user-eh5wo8re3d]

This is a real opportunity to relocate farming into the city, reducing CO2 emissions (transportation) and taking away the need to cut down trees for more farming space. This will actually benefit nature i believe

[@dufung3980]

And less pesticided and nitrogen plume runoffs in rivers.

[@gunesfb1907]

Du Fung And also far less usage of water.

[@GodActio]

Best in cities with clean, safe, environmentally friendly Nuclear Fission power plants

[@XiyuYang]

Yeah, wait until you see the energy expenditure, the limited species you can actually grow, and the logistics to deliver products fresh Vertical farming is a play thing for the rich, for reasons. Well, for now at least.

[@alwaysthelight]

This application of technology is amazing.

[@Re5ist_ance]

I've been seeing a lot of these types of farms. I've started seeing video's of people in cities using abandoned buildings to start such farms. It is the future of farming. I hope they start teaching such things in school. Maybe develop curriculum for future farmers on how to get into this field. Awesome video.

[@YouCantEatTheGrass]

It looks so crazy with the purple lights

[@KoenDeJaeger]

What's new here is that the evaporated water can be reused! Very awesome.

[@Thisguysgoinplaces]

This is soooo cool; I totally want a personal version of this one day!!

[@dennisrichards2540]

Imagine a fully robotic one of these hydroponics systems in something the size of a shipping container that could feed a person year round (or subsidise a decent percentage of a persons needs). I would revolutionise food in the same way solar panels will revolutionise electricity production. Maybe in a idealistic world, surplus personal food production could be traded within the community to make sure everyone has everything they need . . . Maybe even delivered by drones . . .

[@heckyes]

It's coming, trust me. Capitalism will eat itself to death sooner or later.

[@mistercohaagen]

Automate everything until money is meaningless... then we can get on with figuring out what we should actually be doing as a species.

[@MsSomeonenew]

Developed nations already have massively excess food, that is why they are both getting fatter and throw more food away every year, the US is now at about 40% of their food just getting thrown out.

[@DePvdM]

Being a dutch native, i can tell you that this vertical farming is developing very quickly indeed. It can grow up to 150 times more then open field agriculture on the same square meters. Without herbicide, pesticide, or other repellent. Currently cost is the main issue it isn't being used widely yet. As well as that mostly fully green crops can be grown from seed to full mature plants. Other plants are (far) more difficult (but the dutch are going to crack that code sooner or later). Very interesting additional information: www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/

[@dennisrichards2540]

Thanks for sharing, I'll check out the article.

[@YufeiGu]

Vertical farming has been there for quite a while. It's fascinating to watch this still. I was wondering how does this compare to other vertical farming solution.

[@binhtran3729]

Do you have a solution to save power when using the LED lights? thank you so much

[@jeffharmed1616]

Thanks for sharing. This research looks very cutting edge and perhaps it might even solve the worlds food supply problems.

[@IntarwebUser]

Do you do nutrient analysis of the plants to see how different recipes change things, or just how big/fast they grow?

[@adammcghan9658]

Anyone know the costs of a system like this or even a smaller one

[@dufung3980]

Yes. Good on you. This is step 3 of 4 imo Outdoor, greenhouse, indoor, full biocycle hybridized.

[@dufung3980]

Cultivation is like any other invention, though a complex/volatile one, I assure you one size can fit all(with perhaps a few regional adaptable specializations).

[@BigDaddyOworkshop]

Thanks for this, I have been thinking of trying Microgreens for a while and this just pushed me over the edge. I just ordered some Grow LED strips, organic micro-green mix, and some seed trays.

[@NintroTV]

How did it go?

[@noamansattar]

What's type of vegetables can you grow besides lettuce??

[@mctsun]

What LED do u use?

[@retiredshitposter1062]

using red spectrum lighting for vegetative growth stage? or is that a mix of red and blue?

[@Brittstark]

Wow this is amazing. Thank you for sharing. I found this very interesting. :)

[@wwaxwork]

I'd be interested to know the energy inputs compared to more traditional farming. Though of course there would be energy savings from not having to transport foods to the city centre.

[@utcsjakie]

This is gonna be HUGE in the future!!

[@Pawelec801]

Looks very cool but does it pay for itself ?

[@greymarket6834]

id be curious to see the nutrition density of this food compared to field grown.

[@AridersLifeYT]

the same

[@tahitinui2010]

How nutritious are the edibles here compared to those grown outdoors and in non-contaminated soil? What is the food source (minerals) of your "fertilizer"? Are these plants GMO or non-GMO?

[@PlanetReportnet]

Blade Runner Gardening. Earlier this year Japan opened its first robot lettuce farm that will produce 30,000 lettuces per day. If you google 'Japan robot lettuce farm' you will get all the articles about it. This was a fascinating video, great to see such clever people doing such innovative work.

[@SkandalouzStyle]

How do you turn 24 hours into 4 days? you have the lights on for 5 hours and off for 1.

[@benskelly1217]

I've seen these kinds of farms before, cool.

[@legendray2008]

Main advantages that come yo my mind are water saving, vertical planting instead of horizontal, and no pests!

[@kevinward3261]

How much would it cost to start something like this in the U.S?

[@going2sleep]

Very impressive! I can tell you this is the future of farming.

[@ninjam8427]

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[@jessesmth]

I wonder what his energy cost are like? Would it be possible to save energy by placing it in a glass building where the sun could shine in and the led lights could be used less?

[@henrykeith9542]

Jesse Smith it sure would, it’s called a greenhouse and somehow humans have forgotten how to use them...

[@jessesmth]

henry keith a greenhouse wouldn't work vertically because they are stacked on top of each other and the sun would be blocked it areas. One of the main ideas is to save land.

[@MsSomeonenew]

Well for every square meter of growing surface you need to put in 1kW of light to match natural growth conditions, so this must be one hell of an expensive operation, especially now because those LEDs are specialized and real expensive. A green house setup would certainly have some benefits but as you said the more you stack the less light those plants will get.

[@kosakata8632]

Dont forget LED price per square meter, pump electricity and rack cost too.

[@MmeAdmin]

I wonder if lasers have any more efficiency than LEDs. At least individual LEDs can be easily controlled than massive lasers

[@JebGardener]

A very interesting system to be sure. For me, I'll keep ignoring PH for a while.

[@asamusicdude]

Jeb Gardener Name is JEB!

[@DubShack]

Wow that’s incredible

[@condew6103]

I was wondering about pollination. Most of the plants were foliage, but I expect you'd need pollinators to get tomatoes.

[@gravguyyahoo]

Everyone should have these at home . i could see these in the space of my back porch. fresh foods all the time/.

[@asamusicdude]

I'm using similar 4ft T5 retro fitted into an 8 bulb fixture

[@SandraNelson063]

There are parts of the world where due to the absence of rain there is no food growth. Folks go hungry. This kind of moisture reclamation planting may be the only way to bring food into these drought stricken areas. No, it isn't your grandad's farming. But it will probably be the only way some folks can survive.

[@Floedekage]

8:40 Can someone tell me what he says? "white chips, blue chips, red chips and...." and what?

[@yangtse55]

Far red - used more for growth regulation than actually driving photosynthesis

[@monoshock57]

But, do the robots talk to the plants ?

[@compellingpeople]

Is this all solar powered?

[@rixanneh18]

there's no way this is solar powered. running a single A/C unit on top of an RV is impossible to generate enough solar electricity for. Gigantic robotics? no way in hell man.

[@MakeMeThinkAgain]

Would love to ask him about aeroponics and Aquaponics. As a veggie, aquaponics doesn't do me much good, but adding some protean to the equation would seem to make sense for many people.

[@yatali2085]

I wonder how they taste since its using LED light instead of the Sun. Dont you think there would be a difference?

[@MsSomeonenew]

Should be none, ultimately the plants only use red-blue light just as those LEDs produce.

[@DemonicVampyr]

For herbs such as basil or leafy crops such as arugula, from my experience the hydroponic versions are actually tastier. Better light conditions and nutrient provision = tastier crops!

[@mauricepowers3804]

I would love to see more of that tree in front of that church look very interesting

[@LUXURYHOMESINTHELUXURIOUSWORLD]

Good. Thanks your.

[@poepflater]

All those LEDs did not see a single strip on water cooling, when they harvest the heat like that, efficiency will go up more than any advance in LEDs in the last 10 years.

[@KAMA0180]

muy bueno, muy interesante

[@andanssas]

It is a pity that they cannot call these crops "organic" due to just being produced on water and not on soil... No pesticides, no herbicides and they are not affected by air pollutants! I'll start looking for the word "hydroponic" in vegetables sold at supermarkets.

[@elliottmcollins]

So it's really just growing herbs and leaves? If you can't make grains or root vegetables, it seems like a pretty limited specialty crop technology.

[@martijnkosters9024]

Elliott Collins I'm sure you can, but if you think of the plants themselves: grains grow higher than lettuce, meaning less layers to be stacked in a fixed room with a fixed height. It wouldn't be as efficient per square metre. FYI: mushrooms are being farmed like this for years, multi-stories in a CO2 rich room.

[@sirnakerb209]

More videos like this please!, go to GROWx in Amsterdam!

[@tangodad3320]

Amazing

[@CricketMcCrickets]

amazing!

[@unconventionalforager6389]

Why does this cause me to think of the movie Soylent Green?

[@d3r4g45]

He says 55kg lettuce per day. 1kg of lettuce is 1eur to the producer. That is 55eur/day. Where is the money for electrical, space, equipment?

[@spicychad55]

Businesses can deduct costs in tax deductions, subsidies, etc. much like traditional farmers.

[@aljowen]

I guess the hope is that economy of scale will work to their benefit. And to be fair, if they had a field of the size of their buildings footprint, they wouldn't be all that profitable either.

[@CyclingSteve]

He said the robotics they are using is overkill for the size of production they have, this is a research farm after all, it will scale up.

[@d3r4g45]

amigiac expanding production will cost extra in space and electricity. 55eur/day hardly covers one employee part time. The only thing I can think of is more expensive product, like for medical purposes etc.

[@joeredtree]

this seems vastly preferable to traditional methods, or current gmo methods, in terms of quality and safety. especially the no pesticides part. most gmo crops are engineered to survive the harsh pesticides. this would make that unnecessary. it's too expensive to be feasible right now, but i can imagine certain crops being grown like this rather than imported to some hard to reach areas in the near future. imagine an icy wasteland where these things are powered by wind turbines, for example. or similar systems being used for sustenance during space exploration. much better than the silkworms or whatever nasa wants people to eat.

[@joeredtree]

+Nia LaLa V you missed the part of how evolution is real but racism is bad because black science man says we're all made of the same star stuff broooooooo.

[@charlescook94]

I've been saying it all along sky scraper farming is the future

[@mistercohaagen]

Awesome idea... if only it was Open-Sourced, including all the initial data of optimized growth recipes for every kind of edible plant so that everyone on Earth could use it freely at any scale, and constantly improve it. This would be for the purpose of ensuring that nobody starves or has to eat carcinogens, no matter what goes wrong with the outside environment.

[@AlexRodriguez-rh7sc]

I don't think a giant system like this will ever be open-sourced. There are alternatives. I developed an open source vertical hydroponic system and am currently trying to grow as much of my own food as possible using it. It's coming along nicely. Plus the plants are really enjoying this weather. :) Check it out here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2403922 Next step is to get make some Precious Plastic machines and and turn garbage into gardens.

[@mistercohaagen]

I agree with your efforts and see the value in your project, but certain questions still need to be asked on the grander scale. (from your post) They get to be outside where? At what latitude, during what time of year? What kind of weather? Below freezing? Desert? Indoor grows year-round completely independent from weather, with minimal input ingredients and can be fully automated. If a giant system like this isn't open-sourced, then we will forever be dependents upon the hand that feeds us, instead of our own. Artificial scarcity creates cartels and mafias and always end in resource-deprived individuals and ultimately violence from desperation. If we use technology to eliminate scarcity, we reduce the chance of violence in every form. Even structural violence.

[@AlexRodriguez-rh7sc]

mistercohaagen It works just like conventional agriculture. If you have cold winters then you need a greenhouse etc. It’s like those garden towers except it’s not $500+ per 12 plants, but free. I live in Florida and thanks to climate change our winters do not have hard freezes anymore. If you’re looking to “end scarcity” don’t look to corporations like the one in this video. No offense to them. That’s just how the system works. I’m just trying to be as self-reliant as I can and as easily as I can. And offering it anyone who wants to do the same for free.

[@mistercohaagen]

If you can 3d model and print, why not help a project like farmbot.io with modular plant pods and linkages for 8020 extrusion to create a closet-sized vertical nano-farm that a family could use in any climate to offset their grocery bill, in a controlled environment that they could automate and trust to actually produce consistently. design self-reliance to be a teachable / shareable commodity. your skills would help a lot and be compounded in the right places; opensourceecology.org/aquaponic-greenhouse-workshop/

[@AlexRodriguez-rh7sc]

Too many moving parts. My mantra is “make it easy”. Plus it’s 4 grand. I don’t see that being a viable option for the common person. I’m currently looking to build some Precious Plastic machines and then injection mold plastic garbage into hydroponic gardens. For cheap. Check them out. They have a bunch of videos on KZbin. If Kirsten did a video on PP and Dave Hakkens that would be sweet.

[@nasuper100]

nicht schlecht

[@-belue-6697]

Weird...It reminded me of THE MATRIX where they were farming rows & rows of people...Welcome to the future where natural landscapes are almost non existent & we gotta farm in factories. 😎...Next step: People! 😜

[@henrykeith9542]

-Belue- -Myst- nah, at the rate we are using stem cells for finding hunger suppressants, and food flavoring, it will be more like soylent green! We are already eating foods using cells from aborted babies in food so.....

[@AllStar4261]

Huh??..Food cells from aborted babies?..please explain

[@aljowen]

They have all this amazing automated technology and yet they use an Excel spreadsheet for their database...

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

aljowen if it ain't broke...are you one of those people that harp on about what email or browsers other people use?

[@DMINATOR]

Excel is one of the most powerful tools you can use, if you know how. Looks to me like it is more than sufficient for their type of work.

[@aljowen]

MrGenedancingmachine I don't really care what browsers other people use as long as they use it to browse the internet. However Microsoft Excel is designed for doing mathematical operations on large data sets, it is not designed for storing data and should not be used for storing data. If you want software to store data and you wish to stay inside the Microsoft ecosystem then you should be using Microsoft Access, since it is the software that Microsoft purpose engineered for that task. Excel is simply not equipped for safely storing data. If they ever wish to expand as a company it will cause them a whole world of headache, assuming it doesn't cause issues before then.

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

aljowen but it IS equipped for what THEY want to do, poindextor...

[@DMINATOR]

+aljowen Not everything needs a database, people just like to complicate things that shouldn't be complicated. Their sheet looks fine to me. The only reason why you may want a database over excel, is if you want to run queries on it, otherwise it's fine.

[@THERE.IS.NO.DEATH.]

damn this is epic

[@DesertGardenPrepper]

this was interesting in that it made me realize that the future of hydroponics and technology will probably be the next iteration of big ag. version 2.0 of the hubris of man thinking he is smarter than God, or if you prefer... nature. really well done hydroponics probably produces much better food than food grown in npk saturated, depleted soils, but i think that the soil microbiome almost certainly offers benefits to our own gut microbiome that we don't completely understand yet. i will just continue to grow food in soil, and continue to try to scratch the surface of understanding the intricacies of how mineral balanced, healthy soil grows nutrient rich, mineral balanced food that not only prevents many diseases, but probably even cures most of them too.

[@edcpacks8739]

purple plant palace

[@richardsuckerson49]

A future cannabis grow with this grow style?

[@allboroughllcfilm]

wow

[@jeffreyd1701]

this should help to contribute to the continued overpopulation of the planet and our disconnect with the natural world.

[@atlastobin7837]

Finally… Some technology… None of those stupid permaculture hippy videos where they justify killing sentient animals...

[@sapphireblue222]

What an investment in technology! I'd like to see the bottom line profits for all that. Seems total overkill.

[@CyclingSteve]

Profits come later, this is how research is done.

[@Renee201199]

not accounting for dirty rainwater, still haven't come up with people who can eat radiation for long

[@casper5314]

the led-light is the same light of the sun. ectually the sun has the ledlights+ radiation. whilst led has no radiation. get your facts straight please.

[@NatanLawson]

he specifically referred to the water. Get your glasses straight please

[@casper5314]

he said ''not acounting dirty rainwater'' so everything but the water.. please.

[@NatanLawson]

dude, seriously...some reading comprehension please. It's clear he meant "THEY'RE not accounting for dirty rainwater"

[@dejayrezme8617]

Filtering radioactive dust out of water would be rather easy though. The rain would also only be radioactive for a short time. But I like the way you think. This technology is essential if human society is to survive through the climate wars.

[@IsaacDavis69]

"Technologically it's all possible, financially it's a different story." Sounds about right. Capitalism keeps killing us.

[@TVFILMBUFF]

Don't be obtuse. It's not like a socialist agenda would be happy with taking plebs out of the field to engineer something like this.

[@2Majesties]

A real 'socialist agenda' would be perfectly fine with machines or computers doing more of the work, sharing the wealth among all workers and leaving human beings more free time to be free human beings. Authoritarian systems like capitalism thrive on control of behavior; they are clearly the culprits who hate 'taking plebs out of the field.'

[@Mr.Carter777]

He doesn't talk about cons having system like this or much will cost. -Cons: -Mega start up investment compare urban farm you can start with $3000 -Skill and knowledge are necessary to operate at optimum production -Disease and pest can spread quickly to plants using shared nutrient -Not all plants are suitable for hydroponics -How much to fix those robots $5000 or replacement 20.000 ?

[@dennisrichards2540]

-Mega start up investment compare urban farm you can start with $3000 I think these farms will become more cost effective when land prices go up and the technology becomes cheaper. Also higher yealds for larger projects would also make them more affordable. -Skill and knowledge are necessary to operate at optimum production Same with any industry to be fair, but I think Hydroponics engineer will definitely be a decent paid future profession to get into. -Disease and pest can spread quickly to plants using shared nutrient I think the opposite is true, One of the advantages of indoor farms is that they are often isolated form outside pests. Farms like this would be the perfect for regions plagued with seasonal swams/pests like locusts. Another advantage is indoor farms could easily be compartmentalised and nutrients filtered to be resistant to pests. -Not all plants are suitable for hydroponics You've got a point. Potatoes aren't suitable for hydroponics but I'm sure someone could design a system for it. -How much to fix those robots $5000 or replacement 20.000 ? Not sure, but like I mentioned above these systems can become cheaper given economies of scale. A Con you didn't mention is what happens if the commuter crashes. If you lose the data its going to be a real headache for the engineers.

[@emanuelgaydou9895]

Open source projects are already sharing the technology for DIY systems.

[@d3r4g45]

-pros 50kg lettuce/day = 50eur/day, about half a daily basic salary

[@ouss]

go se agricool

[@freeriderfrank6411]

yay no need for humans in that food factory

[@sinsemilla9876]

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