Using GTO+ to Dominate Real Opponents

[@___gh0st___]

Absolutely terrific content! Thank you so much for the hard work, very enlightening! Keep it up you rock! (MTT player here^^)

[@MicroDonk]

Thanks for watching.

[@scufytugboat606]

Hi, thanks for putting this out. Great content! Just thought I'd let you know of a couple of small errors I noticed. 1. The JT4 solve had incorrect effective stacks, you subtracted the whole pot size from the stacks. 2. At 13:54 the Aggregate EV cell is only calculating for c21:c53. [EDIT: This can be solved by changing the formula to AVERAGE(C:C)] I had this exact issue when filtering columns using google sheets. Regardless, awesome work. Keen to see more from you this year :)

[@MicroDonk]

Thanks. This is an older video. I think I'm done publishing, but appreciate the kind words.

[@scufytugboat606]

@@MicroDonk Sorry to hear, your content has been extremely useful for me. All the best with whatever you pursue next :)

[@Petros.Morfis]

Hello mate, nice video thank you very much for that! I d love to see more like this. I have GTO+ but not so much computer power to run all that... Also around 46:10 you seemd unsure how to make it call some % and fold some% of the time... You can actually do it by pressing below "Current selection" (call) and a small window pop up giving you the option to input your % for ever dicision. Thanks again defenatelly gona check your other videos and looking forward for new :)

[@MicroDonk]

Thanks for the tip! Appreciate it.

[@Petros.Morfis]

@@MicroDonk Also mate, please please please make one on SBvBB... SB unopened is my biggest leak I would appriciete it very much if you made a video on that...

[@MicroDonk]

@@Petros.Morfis I just made one you might like. Check it out.

[@betao9452]

Such a great content!! thank you very much!

[@MicroDonk]

Glad you liked it!

[@ia_para_Negocios]

I also study with GTO+, you always have to remember that GTO solution is a theory of play where two sides knows the range and strategy, so the reason of GTO+ says to you play small when you are out of position and board comes two high cards is because another GTO play knows your strategy and will exploit you if you have a high percentage of bets in this situation.... but when you apply this theory to real-life its correct because the way of humans understand a game is according the range and when we have a range advantage we have to big bet.... sorry for my English its not my first language... nice video, waiting for the nexts

[@MicroDonk]

Yes, this is where node locking comes into play. If opponents never raise you, you can away with betting 100% in a lot of spots, for example.

[@ia_para_Negocios]

@@MicroDonk Some days ago I start to think about what you just said, because in real game the behavior of player pool its different..... so I started to change the villain Strategy using Node lock to play close what I see in-game, after that I solve again to know the best exploit strategy against it...... the funny is when we try to find information about GTO in internet most of guys say that is not correct to use it in low and micro stakes..... I think most of the people have lack of understanding about what is GTO because after the machine calculate the EV of range against another range it has to balance the game because another side is a perfect player, but in real life, we have players with 80% turn raise and 90% river raise is pure value, if not this, a pure ABC game.... so, the GTO to became a MAX EPLOITABLE tool, and high indicate to use it in Micro and low stakes, but first we have to understand how to use this tool correctly and use Node Lock..... thanks again

[@MicroDonk]

@@ia_para_Negocios Yes, this is EXACTLY how the solver should be used. It's only job is to find max EV. GTO is the solution of both players in the simulation trying to MAX exploit the other, and GTO becomes the byproduct, not the end goal. The end goal of the solver is max exploit. When you node lock, it will show you max exploit to whatever strategy you lock. This is a big thing everyone misses,,

[@ia_para_Negocios]

@@MicroDonk please can you give me a advice what is the good adjustment to use GTO strategy when we still play micro stake? more specific we have to avoid hero call like GTO does or do not bluff at the same frequency? or do to do both according to specifc Vilain statistics?

[@user-hi1mj4mc3w]

@@ia_para_Negocios Mate, I think most people are lazy/frightened tbh. Many people say 'I'll just play exploitativly, but without a foundation to deviate from, I don't how they do this. Long way this continue.

[@bloodyelbowest]

Awesome content, thank you very much!

[@blackize55]

Hey, just thought you should know you’ll likely get faster performance by setting threads to the number of physical cores or less. Gtoplus will make full use of a core with a single thread so using hyper threading doesn’t do anything but add context switching overhead

[@MicroDonk]

Makes sense. Thanks for the tip. I will try it out.

[@Leandrovideoupload]

Great video men! Cant wait to see the rest of the series. One little suggestion for the future ones: can u do a snapshot of the range that the (in this case) IP player should be Raising/calling or X/Behind; and also, it would too be nice if you can add the turn reports for the OOP player, so to know on what kind of cards does the solver want the OOP player to continue betting, and which ones to check. Keep up the good work!

[@MicroDonk]

Good suggestion showing the ranges more in depth. One issue with turn reports is that it is so dynamic, you can really only do one flop at a time. That's why I prefer the play against the solution feature of GTO+

[@BlinkPls]

Hey Micro Donk, thanks for the great video! A couple questions: @28:40 you check AJ7hh. Isn't this one of our flops we were simplifying to cbet range the small or big size? If we're checking 99 here we're adding some complexity and thus need to start checking some other hands like weak Ax right? @29:00 you get the exact same flop but then say you'll range bet small here, is this just accidentally changing strategy?

[@MicroDonk]

You can certainly range bet for a small size if you want. Checking 99 without a heart is pretty standard, but a range bet is fine.

[@antoniocontaldo5466]

spectacular video, thanks. can I have your IP range ???

[@lantreinterlope9012]

Really nice content out there !! Thank You !

[@chrispohoski]

at 6:20 when your displaying the OOP bet sizes for F,T,R how come you didn't specify any XR raises for F,T,R. Does it just use a default size if left blank? If so what is the default size? I know the default BS is 67% but wondering what default raise size would be? Thanks in advance

[@MicroDonk]

Yeah, it uses the default size.

[@azuraborelias4995]

36:41 aqo without the club OR A HEART is a better call on river as you unblock more of his acxc, and his runner hearts. Bit of a shit spot to have to defend tbh but don't we have enough pairs and 8x to call with them and ditch the a highs for an easier strat?

[@looper6394]

How did you come up with IP flatting range? Seems like this is the hand distribution of hands which flat preflop and reach showdown. If so, how do you judge the error compared to the actual preflop flatting range? I mean that your used distribution shifts the hand distribution towards stronger holdings, e.g. it's way more likely that AA reaches the showdown than for example 22.

[@dexall100]

Hi, I am trying to go through a similar process as this on A high board textures BTN vs BB, figuring out if we can use 2 bet sizings (30% and 70%) and EV loss from GTO solution, however I am having trouble figuring out the aggregate EV. Could you please tell me how you calculated it for each board? Thanks

[@josel4950]

can you run the aggregate reports as shown in 8:32 but for turns and rivers for multiple boards ?

[@MicroDonk]

Yes, but only in Piosolver. The GTO+ developer refuses to add this feature.

[@Tomyates91]

Brilliant video my friend! This will be become invaluable to me when I buy GTO+, I didn't know you could hook it up to Flopzilla, And run the boards kinda like DTO! Brilliant work mate, Would love to see some more content! :) Also, Do you think 32gb ram would be okay run to GTO+? Going to upgrade my 8gb in my laptop to 32gb!

[@MicroDonk]

32GB is pretty good. I wouldn't use a laptop, though. The processor will be too slow.

[@Tomyates91]

@@MicroDonk I just bought a brand new laptop, One going to use one to solve and one to play on.. I think the processor should be okay its a 9th gen i5, So definitely not the worst and I didn't have thousands to spend on a new pc setup unfortunately, And to be honest I'm not super technical with computers! 😂 Hopefully it will be all alright!

[@victorli4197]

great video. do you only do the excel sheet for the OOP PFR? do u see merit in doing follow on sheets facing the bet sizes input for IP? thanks

[@MicroDonk]

There's merit in both, IMO.

[@user-hi1mj4mc3w]

Better than paid sites. Nice work! It would be interesting to see your analysis change mid/late stages in an MTT with shallow stacks. LOL @ overnight monster profile... :)

[@MicroDonk]

I don't play or study MTT

[@vishantbhatia1764]

Hey how did you colour code in the excel i am struggling to make my agg repots readable and pretty'

[@MicroDonk]

I just Googled it. Definitely not an Excel expert.

[@soccerlover5048]

Hi, thank you for the content! Have one question: How did you get this template 8:24 ? Did you make it manually? Could you share it?

[@MicroDonk]

I made it from scratch. Unfortunately, it was accidentally deleted.

[@xxChacaronXX]

Can you make a video on how you would set up the bet sizes for all three street if we were to play the simulator? Like what's the best everyday set up to just play against the bot? Thanks! :)

[@MicroDonk]

It depends on your resources available. I recommend having at least an overbet on turn and river.

[@rustyshackleford158]

Tab Key changes made hand % to number of combos

[@MicroDonk]

Thanks. Haven't used it much.

[@rinozeros253]

Hi, first of thanks for this incredible video! absolute nuts! at the end you said u would do the other "popular spots(3bet pots etc)" aswell. Cant wait to see them, you have an estimate on when they gonna be uploaded?

[@ghjk5827]

Hey, mate. Question: for those who are starting on gto and are playing lower stakes, what do you think about doing the sims using only one sizing per street? Thank you.

[@MicroDonk]

It can be effective. The only issue is that it is hard to get all of the money in on the river in single raised pots if you don't have an overbet somewhere.

[@keithravid5235]

Great free content thanks, when you ran the solver it looked like you didn't have any check-raise sizes built into the tree? Is that correct?

[@MicroDonk]

In GTO+, any blank cell will be automatically filled by the default bet size at the top. In this case, it is 67%.

[@FireTheHoker]

could you please share the spreadsheet it would be greatly apreciated

[@MicroDonk]

I can't. Unfortunately, I lost it.

[@jessneurismfarmer]

also what do the different colors on the ranges mean? blue/green/red? i think there was more colors too

[@MicroDonk]

If you're talking about the preflop ranges, that's just how GTO+ groups them.

[@dinoziabr5825]

Hello! I recalculate (GTO+ 1755) ranges from monker solver BU vs SB 3bet pot and got strange results. Many hands have -ev. I can attach a screen. Why? What have I done wrong?Try to recalculate yourself (for instance utg vs mp - narrow ranges) and see what results you get.

[@MicroDonk]

I can't really troubleshoot through youtube. Solvers will only output good information if you give it good information. Sorry, I can't help you much further.

[@hughwheaton2705]

Bit dumb because with more effort I could prolly find out, but at the start, would I be able to collect the pool data from PT4? Also, is this an actual technique or is it just a demo to plug in the pool data? I can imagine so much of this spewy range is just that a few fish playing bad (who are easy to detect and far worse than the average) will end up calling nearly every time they're on your table. Especially for a 6k sample, this'd be quite bad to adjust to, righr?

[@MicroDonk]

Unfortunately, Pool data is somewhat tough to get from pt4. You'd need to setup an all players report in the report tab.

[@JackWernermhmk]

@@MicroDonk which software besides h2n does provide pool analysis?

[@erronblack1]

@@MicroDonk True. Converting the raw numbers to a frequency is a bit confusing for me in PT4.

[@xxChacaronXX]

What kind of player pool are we analyzing here? Sorry if I missed this info hah

[@MicroDonk]

DB of 100nl+ players

[@xxChacaronXX]

@@MicroDonk Thanks!

[@Diesel-gp2zz]

Are you still going to make videos???

[@manuel1675]

thought the same ..

[@MicroDonk]

Yeah, I have been busy playing a lot and kind of ran out of topics.

[@Diesel-gp2zz]

@@MicroDonk could you make more gto+ videos ??😁

[@MicroDonk]

Sure

[@MicroDonk]

@@Diesel-gp2zz Just uploaded one.

[@matthiasbaumgaertner6242]

Hey great content. Regarding the EQR stats: How is it, than on Average you only realize like maybe 85% of your Equity IP? Somew hands are down to 74% . As far as i understand, we always overrealize IP no matter our holdings. And vice versa oop. A friend of mine has used this formula for the OOP player as well, what he came up with was that IP player has EQR of between 100 to 106 % and OOP between 70-80%. Shouldn't it be a sum zero thing ? Lets say IP player realizes 106 % on A45r, meaning that OOP should realize like 94%. where is my flaw in logic here? What happened to the rest of the equity? Rake?

[@matthiasbaumgaertner6242]

I meant some flops are down to 74% EQR , not hands

[@matthiasbaumgaertner6242]

whats also confusing is, that if we only realize on average 80% of our equity oop BB vs CO, that would fundamantely change the way we select our preflop ranges. Lets say a hand like k7s has 40% equity on the bb vs a Co open, if we do underrealize on most flops by 20%, we couldn't call this hand. Even if we get 27% pot odds when Co 2.5x opens. We could only call hands with a 47% equity against Co's range. ( 47% - 20% underealization = 27% ). That would be hell of a tight range.

[@MicroDonk]

Good questions. I think the part you are confused about is that in this example, we are OUT of position. We opened from early position and were flatted by late position. A lot of it also has to do with how the range is constructed. In this specific spot, the IP has a capped, but relatively strong range. This is why we, as the OOP player, check so much. We want to keep the pot small.

[@MicroDonk]

I wouldn't really overthink it, too much. It is just a general guideline to help see what flops are better for what ranges. It is ENTIRELY based on the range construction. If you are using a preflop solver like Monkersolver, it already factors postflop playability into the equation.

[@jovkovskiblagojce480]

Nice work there!Do u just one click copy Hand2Note range and paste into GTO+?Or did u do that manually adding frequencies for all combos?

[@MicroDonk]

Yeah, I just copied it as is from Hand2Note.

[@endrek3967]

how long did it take you to run all the sets, and how much space ?? :) thankss great content

[@MicroDonk]

GTO+ doesn't take that much space. The time it takes depends on your computer. I don't remember on this one.

[@AnthonyShuker]

weights affect the speed by a lot though it's understandable

[@notasuperuser]

Hi, I just purchased GTO+. How do you configure two bet sizes? it seems like I can only configure 1? Also, is it possible to get a hold of your ranges?

[@MicroDonk]

Just separate your sizes with a comma.

[@marcusk.4189]

At 7:28 you can see the settings.

[@usanve8335]

HEy Micro. Where are you?

[@MicroDonk]

We're back! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqKnoqCPnpmlopo

[@jessneurismfarmer]

when you say "it's probably just noise" do you mean it is probably wrong because it's impossible for it to calculate every situation perfectly?

[@MicroDonk]

If you give me a timestamp, it makes it easier to answer your questions.

[@MicroDonk]

To answer your question, I didn't solve to 100% accuracy, so when we get down to small percentages, it's within the margin of error.

[@ds54ds5sd5sd5]

Looked some of your videos and other guys content. Going to play with free flop in trial GTO+. And it already has playing vs solution. If everything will work, for sure paying that 75$ for that gold software. The big minus is that I am copying and editing preflop ranges from old data(not solver's, but some high stakes regulars) and actually in fact in reality most EV at micro stakes will depend mostly from postflop performance. It's unbeliavable how hard to calculate "close to gto vs human" live play, especially when mostly everyone just clicking buttons. On the other side - this complexity takes you all and it becomes very, very interesting to play poker. A lot of players think they need to grind insane ammount of hands "to beat variance etc", in fact you need to play best game in first, and then all other good things will happen as consequence.

[@MicroDonk]

My basic approach is to have a decent understanding of what GTO might look like, see how opponents deviate, and then use the solver to develop exploits.

[@brianbrewer974]

People run into major pitfalls when doing database analysis. In this video, I saw you copy paste ranges from a button cold calling range. Isn't this also inherently filtered for hands that went to showdown? Thus it is not actually villains cold calling range. There are some other similar issues that pop up that some groups tend to overlook when doing population analysis that I won't be getting into here. In my opinion, the best format for that type of analysis is anon zoom games where you see holecards after each hand (so bodog zone). This is just my criticism of one thing I saw, not meant to be discouraging or hateful.

[@Sawstinker]

Great videos and explanation. I saw that you have an Overnight Monster profile, I'm assuming you are familiar with the content? What did you think of it? I was debating geting it or paying for a few sessions with a private coach at $100/hr

[@MicroDonk]

It's a decent course, but you will only get what you put into it. There are some things I don't agree with. I noticed a few people in my game implementing the strategy, so I ran some sims to exploit it.

[@Sawstinker]

@@MicroDonk Thanks for the response. Would you have any recommended courses for anonymous zone poker? I beat 25NL on Ignition and the few thousand hands I've played at 50NL seem equally as soft. However I cannot beat 25NL Zone which makes me think I'm not a very good player and am simply exploiting the fish with the use of a hud. I've been trying to look through my database using HM3 (because they have a built in hand converter) to gather population tendencies but I believe there is less functionality in HM3 compared to HM2 at the moment.

[@MicroDonk]

@@Sawstinker Zone is much tougher, because players can fold their marginal hands. Your winrate will be much lower at zone than regular tables. Personally, I wouldn't play zone. I think Alvin, the guy who sells Overnight Monster, has a few guys playing in the zone pool. Maybe it would be a good value for you. I'd contact him and see what he thinks.

[@Sawstinker]

@@MicroDonk thanks again for the reply. btw, at 29:55 you said the Flopzilla is just for the flop, but it actually live exports the turn and rivers as well so you can check in real time. I've found it to be very useful when playing against the solution to understand why some spots are picking overbets and helping me fold more rivers which is probably my biggest leak

[@MicroDonk]

Nice. I haven't used it much, obviously.

[@switch2crypto]

Can You Use This Whilst At The Tables On Pokerstars?

[@MicroDonk]

I doubt it. It wouldn't be practical, as it takes a long time to solve.

[@SimplePoker]

Hello! How I could contact you?

[@MicroDonk]

[e-mail]

[@russ2991]

Suggestion: Get to know your software before recording a video. Also, your system doesn't have enough memory to record and solve at the same time, as shown by the skipping in the later part of the video.

[@MicroDonk]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have 32GB RAM, so not an issue. In fact, you can see the available RAM in GTO+ on the left side. The skipping is due to me not lowering the amount of CPU cores available. Solving while recording a video was a bad idea in retrospect.

[@jonathanrivera8447]

Online poker is dead

[@MicroDonk]

Yeah, I killed it, haha.