Princess of disks note: she is considered the lowest card (furthest away from ascension) in the deck, which in fact makes her the closest to the highest highs on the tree of life, she is the ultimate beginning and therefore closest to the end in the cycle of ascension she can almost literally smell it. Yet in order for her to get there she has to climb the full tree of life to obtain what she’s caught whiffs off all her life and has been closest to all her life. That long journey ahead for something that has always seemed so in reach definitely gives me risk everything to gain everything vibes to me.
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS SO MUCH! And yes... in a way she's the "World" card of the entire Tarot... kinda. :D The end and the beginning... the bottom and the top.... a work in progrses. :D
@kxlot792 жыл бұрын
My whole life in a card!🙃🥲🤣 Thanks for sharing this insightful comment!
@EnduringMelancholia2 жыл бұрын
I watched both videos and then immediately bought it. I haven’t studied Thoth yet, but this is the deck I want to use when I do. I’m pleased that the deck won’t languish until I’m ready to study Thoth because I’ll be able to use it as an Oracle. I’m stoked. Thank you for inspiring me and helping me grow my practice. ♥️
@DawnMichelleTarot2 жыл бұрын
This was so much fun and I really enjoyed exploring the deck as a Tarot (I've refrained from that so I could focus on the oracle for our videos!) The color correspondences are fantastic. Thank you for doing this Collab with me, it was so fun! ❤️
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited about the colours corresponding like that!! :D Thanks so much for playing with this deck with me!!
@ellensentanglementtheory2 жыл бұрын
I found this on a Tarot forum: "the legs of both The World and Hermit create the shape of 4. Four symbolizes the earth with its four directions and the unconscious. So The Hanged Man would mean that he has turned the world on its head by reversing his sense of values and the figure of The World is made up of shapes that create the Tree of Life, but the top shape is superconsciousness, the middle, consciousness and the bottom, unconsciousness. The World has unified the levels of consciousness into one state, one entity rather than fragments."
@kxlot792 жыл бұрын
Your reflections on the differences and things that stood out to you in your study were tremendously expansive! I really enjoyed how that simplified deck attempted to dial in to an overarching message for each card! Your musings gave more dimension and insight to cards that have been popping up frequently for me this month. TFS!!💖💗💖
@marian9410 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. did you notice that in the hierophant, the two columns almost look like the high priestess ones plus the baby's pentacle is in the Devil position (not the usual one as in the Thoth). Wonder what you make of that Lisa? thank you for your video, loved it!
@Celestial.MusingsАй бұрын
This is so amazing. I'm definitely picking this up soon.
@juliewood62702 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Lisa! I really enjoyed this walkthrough and comparison! Well done! Off to watch Dawn Michelle's video!
@TempestGetchell2 жыл бұрын
Soooo....my daily card today is the 7 of swords and my day did not start off right. Never thought of the self-defeating thought and the things you talked about with the 7 of swords is very resonant.
@Celestial.MusingsАй бұрын
I know you posted this two years ago but I wanted to let you know that it was super helpful to me. I went ahead and got this deck, absolutely also a Thoth newbie but what a rabbit hole! Somehow I found your book and I suggested it at my library in a fairly large city. I got all formats in! So that's mostly why I'm commenting. I like to let creators know that I got their content into the library when I can.
@Lisa_PapezАй бұрын
Aw thank you so much for that - and for taking the time to comment!!!
@juliewood62702 жыл бұрын
Lisa, I just received my Outgrow Yourself deck and it came in one package!
@zsuzsiabramson56552 жыл бұрын
I have the deck and so as to not disturb the image I wrote in black sharpie ..ie: 5P or 8W....the sharpie is kinda shiney so I can see it
@ayearandaday2 жыл бұрын
I just love hearing your thoughts on this, Lisa!! I always learn so much from viewing a deck through your eyes and hearing your take on it - thank you so much for sharing! 😊🙌
@zsuzsiabramson56552 жыл бұрын
WOW...I love how this side by side really shows how alike the two decks are!!! love it
@aiatarlill2 жыл бұрын
I don't have the classic Thoth deck so this side by side was really interesting - how the artist (Linda) has kept elements from the classic deck. Some images do make more sense from that perspective. As I'm clueless about Thoth, I wrote the symbols on the cards with a red Posca pen I had knocking around the house. So you are not necessarily limited to silver, Poscas work fine. I also edged my deck in pink, like the naked flesh. I suppose black would be the expected choice but I felt the deck had more of a fleshy energy and as of now it lives in my "pink decks row" between the magical Forest and Intuitive Night Goddess LOL. I think the difference in edges comes because one half of the deck has been cut from front to back, and the other half from back to front.
@lalita94732 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've had this deck several months and love it. I wrote the number and suit in silver sharpee in the corner of the pip cards (2C, 5D, 8S, 9W, etc) and also edged it in black. I also love to pair it with the wild essence thoth deck .
@hilarywesthoff2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! That was a lot of info. I'm still very new to tarot and recently became obsessed with Lenorman after one of your videos. I think I'll enjoy the Thoth through your videos. My brain might explode if I try adding another system.
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha it can be a lot!
@paperstorycraft2 жыл бұрын
I’m the same way. I’ve been studying tarot for a year but I’ve started looking at Lenorman and Charm casting. But I’m tempted try learning Thoth.
@leigh81562 жыл бұрын
As a Thoth newbie I think I might take a white paint pen to mark the suits. Great review Lisa, I really enjoyed watching you have ah ha moments with the cards
@kxlot792 жыл бұрын
31:11 you’re talking about your expanded perspective on the 7 of swords. I thought I HAD to share what your observations sparked in me. I get this card A LOT! And it has meant different things to me at different times, but my understanding of what’s being said by this card (depending on its placement and companions) has leapfrogged thanks to videos like yours! In the RWS, the figure is sneaking off with 5 swords, leaving behind 2. And I am the QUEEN of “Well, this game is rigged, so let’s figure out other means of winning. Let’s not take any chances with cheaters.”👀🙃😮💨 Many times, I DO have very self-defeating and limiting thoughts- but reflecting, many times when this card shows up for me, the 5 most problematic of those insecurities are taken away and the 2 constructive beliefs are left behind. This ties into the Venusian upgrade energy of 7s in the sense that the “5 conflict swords” are taken away, leaving behind the “2 swords of peace.” I absolutely LOVE how videos like yours stimulate my intuition!💖
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
So glad that it helped!! I love it when different decks or artwork or others interpretations springboard me into new ways of thinking, too!
@ProjectRefinedLife2 жыл бұрын
Lisa, this was an amazing side by side comparasion with the Thoth. Thank you.
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@mogvgb2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Outgrow Yourself, it was so good to watch this side by side. I was never a fan of the Crowley Thoth Art, but I do like seeing how much of the key symbolism was kept by Outgrow.
@juliewood62702 жыл бұрын
OK! That's it! I finally took the plunge and ordered the Thoth deck, as well as the Outgrow Yourself Oracle and Tarot!!! Yay!!!
@tamipie2 жыл бұрын
Scrumptious video. Of course I am Thothy so this deck was an obvious choice for me. I got it as a gift from my son...thank goodness! I missed her last deck, and I LOVE this artwork.
@bronwynlandis Жыл бұрын
Came here from Dawn ❤ I love this deck and immediately bought it after watching her video. Excited to see your interpretation too!
@weststartarot-Liz2 жыл бұрын
Your walk through of this deck, your comments, and the messages on the Outgrow Yourself deck have inspired me to try yet again with the Thoth. Great video, really insightful.
@tarotstudent32582 жыл бұрын
I love my outgrow yourself oracle and tarot❤️ thanks for the insightful side by side!
@lilyofthevalley90442 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great job 👏
@juliewood62702 жыл бұрын
I also ordered a Thoth guidebook as well!
@panchan47992 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this walkthrough, this makes me want to learn Thoth now 😊 love the colour correspondence between the 2 decks!
@marshahostetler2 жыл бұрын
So I received this deck while I was dealing with shingles so it was what I needed I could do a spread and really not have to think. I enjoyed your take on the deck! Love and Light to you, Peggy and fur babies.
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
Shingles sounds horrible - so sorry you had that going on - hope your recovering well!!
@lunieahexx60432 жыл бұрын
I think the legs being that way in the hanged man was something to do with the light descending into darkness to redeem it or something to that effect (sorry about the vagueness its just the first thing that came into my head) ill have to find my thoth books and see if I can find it. I think Ill pass on the Outgrow Yourself for now not really feeling it.
@pyenygren22992 жыл бұрын
After seeing Don's video, I think this deck would be a good oracle deck for me.
@ellensentanglementtheory2 жыл бұрын
I could binge-watch Dawn's and Lisa's content all day!!
@oekmama Жыл бұрын
Lovely concept.
@Masculineintuitionreadings2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize this was a swedish creator! Shipping was super afforable for me, so… sold!
@marian9410 Жыл бұрын
in the Death card also, it looks like the skeleton is taking the scythe from her and about to hand her the new blossoms....very interesting
@heatherrosetarot2 жыл бұрын
Cool decks! I haven't even delved into the Thoth system yet (still studying RWS) but I found both videos utterly fascinating. Great job! 👍❤️
@CathouTarot2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🌷 It was super useful to follow along with my own deck. I use it as a mix of oracle and (thoth) tarot and so far it's been just fine for me that way. I don't have an extensive knowledge of the thoth system. I don't even own a deck. I like to learn about it with online pictures only. So I learned a lot with the comparison and your insights! As I was watching your video, I realised I sometimes struggle with the keywords and I do miss the astrological associations (my main reason for getting into the thoth system is the Golden dawn astrological references). My evil deck mod mindset was like: shouldn't I write the name and astro correspondences on each card? 😜 I think I'm going to give it a try on a couple of cards (while watching Dawn Michele's video of course).
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
Oooh I bit a fine point silver sharpie woul ddo the trick nicely! :)
@AmethystAscensionTarot2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a very interesting and cool deck! I really enjoyed watching both of your videos on this. I almost pushed that button to purchase this deck, but I'm not quite there yet. Great walk through as usual. 💖
@cherrycato19402 жыл бұрын
I realy think these 2 decks work so well together…..I don’t work with the Thoth , but if I used the outgrow deck along with Thoth, I’m sure I could learn to read the Thoth more 😍 …I’m new to your channel. Thank you. 🌟from NZ. 🍒
@pamelabailey9412 жыл бұрын
Hi Lisa..great video and I watched BoHo tarots as well. Could you give me link please to order this deck,please. Thank you so much. 🦄🦄🦄
@Dlaurelle12 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if anyone has found a pen / marker / etc that works to write the minor correlations onto the Outgrow Yourself deck without the words smearing everywhere? I’m planning to mod mine by edging it to hide that side difference that mine also has and, as I’m new to my learning with Thoth as well, I would love to have the suit identifier on each card but am super afraid of smudged words ruining the beauty of this deck!
@plumicorn2 жыл бұрын
I love the death card of the outgrow deck
@megs43032 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Have you said what you've read for your Thoth studies anywhere yet? (Not through this whole video yet so maybe I should just be patient)
@Lisa_Papez2 жыл бұрын
I've been sharing here and there in my Monthly Show and Tells (Feb & Mar) -- but more to come!
@marshahostetler2 жыл бұрын
Lisa mine did not come in two parts it was just one and even I am sorry your deck was like that!
@eileenhawaii63812 жыл бұрын
Mine also came wrapped as one with matching sides.