Using Reactive Tracking Helps You Flick Feat. VT GM Paytrolah | Aim Training Tutorials #6

[@WestProter]

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[@Paytrolah]

That's me! Thanks for the shoutout and spreading of my ideas as always West!

[@WestProter]

ofc. You've probably inspired like half my videos and your reddit post inspired me to make a channel, it was about time I gave you a formal shoutout

[@Txrje]

I've mained reactive for a year now, and in the first period 3-4 month period of that, my reaction time dropped from ~230ms average to 185ms average on the same equipment, and then to 170ms with better equipment on top of that

[@WestProter]

It’s insane how useful reactive is. I feel like non gamers should be playing it. Like athletes trying to get better at reacting to baseballs and stuff

[@finity9316]

how do you test your reaction time ?

[@WestProter]

@@finity9316 I just use the human benchmark run the test like 4 or 5 times to get an average

[@finity9316]

@@WestProter also is better to game with the light of or light on in ur room ?

[@IKKAIWINS]

@@finity9316 on, safe your eyes please.

[@thebulletkin8393]

My tracking is terrible. Genuinely any task where the target moves randomly is incredibly hard

[@WestProter]

It requires focus reaction time and just putting in hours. A good rule of thumb for early vt grinders run both gauntlets every day at least once. It’s much better than 5 one day then none for the rest of the week

[@christophkraiker607]

Do you have any recommendations regarding scenarios on aimlabs to improve? I use the scenarios of voltaic fundamentals (and there the tracking scenarios).

[@WestProter]

@@christophkraiker607 I don't know a ton of what's out there on aim lab, I know their built in tasks are useless, try running some vt fundamental reactive scenarios, and things on the reactive column for vt and rA

[@SanaOsniva]

do you have any playlist to train visual reaction? I have aim lab and kovaak

[@WestProter]

The pureg supplement playlist is designed to train reactivity iirc

[@mihastefanacmaucec7004]

OMG those shots are insane

[@johnvincents.pangilinan5507]

I prefer micro flicks over micro adjustments

[@WestProter]

I use the term adjustment just cause it’s the first term I’d heard. You’ve been commenting on my videos since the beginning thx a ton.

[@johnvincents.pangilinan5507]

@@WestProter you should do a video about movement and other fundamentals, a lot of players who discovers aim training sometimes become a "Kovaaks Player" and those players become confused for still being bad and only blame their aim and not basic fundementals.

[@WestProter]

​@@johnvincents.pangilinan5507 I definitely could, but the thing is that I'm not too confident to talk about movement, so there'd be a ton of research. Also I'm not sure what I'd make game I'd make a movement guide for. Most of my guides work for R6S and Val players, and a lot of them work for people who play 100 other games too. Can I ask which game you're requesting?

[@johnvincents.pangilinan5507]

@@WestProter Valorant, like mixing up jiggle peeking with counterstrafing, making you incredibly hard to kill and the TTk is around 0.2sec almost instant for me

[@SilkyCrisp]

I'm confused, paytrolah doesn't even do reactive tracking. He said he only has GM scores in static dots and switching. Maybe just pure reaction time matters more?

[@WestProter]

I'm going to make this long because you seem like you'll be willing to read it. Lately he's been working on reactive tracking with Viscose as a mentor. I thought he hit gm in it for some reason, probably just an wrong assumption. I'll copy and paste a few of our disc dms that are relevant. A few things to keep in mind, Pay and I live on opposite sides of the world. NE USA vs NZ, we know each other basically because I got my start on KZbin making his reddit post into a video, and he was one of the first subscribers to my channel. The reason I missed the fact that he wasn't gm in reactive tracking (if that's still up to date) is just because we talk casually over discord dms every week or so. At one point or another I just assumed he was gm in reactive. Also the reason I copied instead of using screenshots is that despite knowing java and c#, and having developed multiple games on the Unity Engine, I have absolutely no idea how to put a screenshot in a KZbin comment. 07/23/2021 Pay: i think i might have discovered something significant, i have found that praticing my reactive tracking (air angelic 4 voltaic specifically) as part of my warmup or between games makes my aim significantly more consistet the act of repeatedly adjustig back to the constantly moving target really helps hitting headshots or adjusting the crosshair when it is not perfectly lined up on a head, i think i've discovered something big Me: research time well actually its 1am so its bed time but i will investigate soon 07/26/2021 Me (referring to new mouse): its not making me too much better but it seems to raise the skill ceiling. Like i feel like i have more room to improve. Any more data on the reactive tracking warm up? Pay: personally i do it as the last thing before playing, usually while in queue personally i boot up kovaaks between games all the time as well, so i'll do 1w4t and a little between them often it seems to make my micro adjustments better whilst also making me feel more reactive (possibly placebo but i severely doubt it) my human bench mark is a lot higher after i train reactivity than before, although benchmark is super inconsistent and a bad test anyway Me: I kinda want to test this now. Pay: personally i find it works, although it's not going to be a crazy change it really helps the vertical aspect of moving your crosshair up from their chest to their head (or down) as well Me: I mean like in terms of getting like 5 people who have no idea what they're trying to do and see if we get similar reactions (never happened, at least not yet) Pay: it would be an interesting idea, im guessing it would work tracking mains tend to have good micro adjustements Me: very true (more irrelevant talk abt tracking mains) 08/19/2021 Me: Yo send me like 30 seconds worth of your highlights I'm gonna make a reactive tracking video and I'm gonna work a shoutout for you into it Pay: i dont really play any tracking games and im not sure i have any properly reactive clips you could possibly get viscose to get clips though (you're right, he doesn't do it often, but if you see what this guy calls potato aim, you'd ignore Pays thoughts on I don't have any good clips and assume that means very good clips) Me: It’s more focused on your flicking theory not actual reactive tracking Pay: oh well that is easy (More talk abt the planning for the video, irrelevant to the theory, and other future yt plans for videos) If you actually read all this, I hope it helps

[@WestProter]

Update: Just dmed Pay, you're right, his reactive scores are in fact master

[@SilkyCrisp]

@@WestProter Oh okay, i've experienced the same thing with air angelic. it's one of the better scenarios to warm up your aim because it's constant microcorrections and intense mousecontrol. Never thought about reactivity improving your reaction time though, interesting. Might be true since your brain gets quicker at processing the changes in movement faster

[@WestProter]

@@SilkyCrisp It'd be really interesting to get to do a more formal study, I just don't know how to find volunteers who wouldn't already have seen this video. I checked out your channel, and I gotta say nice tracking. I'm definitely not a COD player, but those clips were clean, and I loved how you edited in related tasks. Great work and congrats on the haccusations

[@SilkyCrisp]

@@WestProter I'd be interested to see also and thank you for checking out my channel

[@kitkatfps3800]

these flicks are fucking insane help wtf

[@WestProter]

Paytrolahs is above human. No idea how

[@kitkatfps3800]

@@WestProter FR LIKE WHAT