Using TOXIC ACID to Clean Agates, Crystals, and Geodes (Plus a Surprise!) | Montana Rockhounding

[@AgateAngler]

Thanks for watching everyone! Have a great weekend and a Happy 4th! Also, be sure to submit your top Kayak Name in the comments below - The winner will be the comment with the most votes.

[@KatyDidRocks]

Love your new kayak! Woohoo! I see a river trip in our future.

[@thirstfast1025]

Couple quick notes, make sure you have the piece set on the bottom before you let it go, that minimizes the risk of splash. Also, acid will eat metal. Plastic will last longer. Well, the right kind of plastic LOL! You definitely take more precaution than I do, which is probably a good thing. I work with HCl at work so I'm used to the stuff. Hahaha you're gonna feel that yellow stuff on your fingers! A good rule is "if it wasn't yellow when it went in, it shouldn't be yellow when it's done". Any residual yellow is residual acid. Unless you're cleaning certain hematite, then you can generate limonite. Good stuff man! Nice addition to the fleet too!

[@MetteFernSpirit]

"The River Dog". Those rocks turned out great!

[@shirleythomas6377]

I really liked learning how to use the acid. The info about the Pryor Mts and what you found there is beneficial also.

[@betojdesigns]

How about “Aqua Rocker” It’s such a nice color, and it’s meant for the water 💦.

[@themidwesternrockhound388]

Super cool! Love how acid can do that. Kip looked so cute with the lab suit on funny guy. Awesome vid

[@paulcarder8032]

Great results. I have used that brand of acid and it does a fine job. I was wondering though how much baking soda do you put in your soaking water? I have cut Geodes from Kentucky and southern Indiana that due to iron content in the soils, are often full of reddish muck and I power wash them thoroughly and then soak a couple of days in an Iron Out solution to turn them white. Great results. Keep the videos coming!

[@AgateAngler]

Thanks Paul! I just got your package yesterday! Man, those slabs are so nice!

[@dcs4219]

Angler, what is the matrix material? looks like Baslt?

[@AgateAngler]

I am not so sure to be honest!

[@thirstfast1025]

The Kipper, All Anglers, SS Smoothstone, River Raider.....

[@gwynnfarrell1856]

Kipper is a good one!

[@AgateAngler]

I think "The Kipper" Might just be the winner!

[@thirstfast1025]

@@AgateAngler No way! That's awesome!

[@heikeehlers6029]

How about stone skipper

[@patriciamckean4186]

Omg, Kip was your assistant! Love it! So glad you are taking precautions. You can soak longer and neutralize it with baking soda water. I use baking soda to clean my tub with a brush. It may help. Power washing also may work, to get the rest of the junk off. The kayak is a great addition.

[@edtherockhound9944]

Quick question when you take the rocks etc out of the acid and place in water with baking soda ? My question is how long to I let them sit in the baking soda mix after the acid bath? Thanks I’m learning and having fun . I set up my workstation down in basement for the winter

[@AgateAngler]

I mean, technically you don't have to do it for too long, but I erred on the side of caution and let them sit in there for at least an hour.

[@susiecraddock3147]

Love Kips outfit!! Love chemistry too so im even more excited

[@annemariemayr3576]

Whats about "Agate " for your new Kajak...?

[@thomaspownall2989]

The water bath should already have baking soda in it to Neutralize the acid, not just dilute.

[@DavidBriggsAdventures]

The water is more than sufficient. It's not like it's a concentrated acid, and it was rinsed in a volume of water sufficient to radically alter ph on it's own to a safe level.

[@RobWenzel84]

Hey Alex & Kip, so the acid doesnt hurt the Crystal's? And I also have a few agates with some kinda white crust on it I want to get off would this work for that? I have no idea what the white crust is, thanks for any help

[@elizabethlewis3509]

How do you dispose of muriatic acid after use?

[@elizabethlewis3509]

The material is called calleche. Used to put down on roads and it hardens like cement.

[@centralcoastbound]

Call it the KS Minnow or the KS Agate (kayak ship).

[@rockinwitht9948]

Love those sparkles!!!! For the kayak...Kipping Stones or Kipping Rocks...just a little word play 😋.

[@randywissler9923]

A nice little thing to make sure to tell everyone when doing the acid baths, however long you keep them in the acid, you should leave them in the water/baking soda bath twice as long.

[@judyberry9715]

Can you clean petried wood?

[@gigib333byars9]

Muriatic acid is something you used to make a salt pool pH balance so it makes sense that it will clean the calcification that builds up on the rock. It's dangerous but it's not that dangerous people use it everyday to pour into their pools.

[@TheoKellison]

Those turned out great! They are going to slab beautifully! Looking forward to see some of those fortifications with a good polish. Awesome decision to get the kayak! The yellowstone sure looks like it's not too much farther out from being houndable again! Looking forward to the next one as always!

[@hangonzales6196]

I must be late for the naming thing, but The Kipper sounds good. Kipper looked so cute in the lab coat and goggles ❤

[@EDLaw-wo5it]

If you would like something not as toxic try some cleaning vinegar. It is 10% acid instead of 5% for household vinegar. It is much easier to handle. It is somewhat slower but still does the trick. My rock club in Nevada put me on tho this, You may still use HCA if it is really tough to clean. I also use citric acid for scum and Iron Outfor metal stains. I buy cleaning vinegar at some Walmarts. Havgudun my friend.

[@rockinwitht9948]

I use citric acid too, and I’m happy with the results

[@tessyts]

Wondering if that container would be safer on the solid ground instead of the table? It looks like it could easily be knocked off the table.

[@perry44442000]

The material on the outside that you are purging from the rocks is called Culichi

[@rickyspanish2933]

Would this work for red quartz druzy in Lymestone?

[@AgateAngler]

No idea. It would probably disolve the limestone.

[@MACorrupt]

How about something simple for your kayak such as ripple or splash. I kind of like ripple because when you throw a rock in the water the ongoing ripples are beautiful to watch. Have fun.

[@kodyryan5694]

Why did you leave them in for only twenty minutes?

[@CityRockhounding]

Haha, love how kip was ready to go, safety first! This is so cool to see, they cleaned up well. Thanks for showing us and how to handle the acid too!

[@cottonwooddiscgolf1038]

“The Kayagate”

[@lovewolves1]

I want to buy it but no one sells it. I don't see it in Walmart, I don't see it in dollar store. Is it only online.

[@kimbain4368]

Very interesting to see the process. Hope we get to see you cut some! Thanks for sharing!

[@RockHoundingAdventures]

How about the name “Rockie Rig”

[@terrimaldonado8806]

How about Rocky?

[@marysantillo3725]

How does one safely dispose of the acid?

[@K4SWX]

Baking soda will neutralize the acid. Hcl isn't all that toxic. Yes always use gloves and eye protection but theses been times I've stuck my hand in a bucket full to grab a specimen with no damage to my hand. This acid is also diluted with water. It reacts to any carbonate materials like concrete calcites limestone ect. Quartz agates anything non carbonate is safe to be in it and it's also best to use hot water with the acid..

[@1stladydjfirebird724]

A bit nervous watching you work with the acid, but the results are cool! For the kayak name, how about Ripple Rider? Rockhound River Runner? Crystal Clipper? Or something really silly - Goin' Geodin' (lol).

[@AgateAngler]

Good names! Yeah the acid is a little intimidating, but I have experience working with acids in my training, so a little caution goes a long ways. Thanks for watching!

[@EDLaw-wo5it]

The Yellow Hound sounds good tome lol for the kayak.

[@gigib333byars9]

I also think the kippers cute👇

[@patrickbeaton6697]

Coooool, does it clean the crystals as well Alex ?

[@chriswinchester7285]

Awesome to see what acid can do! 😲 Thanks for showing how to clean rocks with that stuff. 😎👍

[@jeffwillemsen4871]

i used muriatic acid and it turned several rocks yellow any suggestions to remove this yellowing

[@steveegbert7429]

know this is an old video but you can try soaking them in Iron Out to get rid of the yellow on crystals.

[@matthewkite5110]

Heyyo, great videos. Curious. Did you dilute the acid? Or just full strength outta the bottle?

[@trippingonrocks1165]

I'm getting excited again. We can't use acids here in New Zealand so I've been making my own but I've put baking soda in the mix and wondered why not much happens haha my next round is a citrus 'acid' 😅. These came up really good, that sparkle sure is something else. does it matter which way the geodes are facing when laying in the acid/cleaner?

[@AgateAngler]

Good questions. I do not think orientation matters as long as the whole rock is covered. Thanks for watching.

[@trippingonrocks1165]

@h2s what do you mean no science allowed. Because here in New Zealand we're a little island and people dumping acids down the drains and in our waterways it causes alot of damage to us as a whole.

[@RockHoundingAdventures]

Cool vid bro, I need to try that cleaning method with some of my material.

[@brucevanderzanden9638]

Hello Agate Angler. Katydid Rocks recommended you to me. I like this video. I have a lot of rocks with junk on them and soap water does not do anything. I will try this. I like your channel too!

[@AgateAngler]

Thanks for checking out my channel Bruce! I hope the acid works for use. Be safe with it, it is strong stuff.

[@brucevanderzanden9638]

I have worked with hydrochloric and sulfuric acids in the past. Muriatic acid use will be treated with the same protocols to stay safe.

[@apo1915]

good job angler. one concern . use a copper twizers instead . good luck

[@victorenache3927]

KipMobile 😎 for the kayak, btw nice crystals and agate fortification . I think you will find some awesome stuff with the kayak. Good luck and have fun

[@benjihilliard945]

really enjoy your videos mate. keep up the good work. got a great energy and enthusiasm to what ya do. have subscribed :-)

[@shesridindirty]

Name it the kipper....where is kip gonna sit? You need to attach a child size surf board attached by a rope so you can tow kip wherever you go...👀😍

[@AgateAngler]

Man, I don't know if Kip will fit. I'll play around with it, but he might not be able to go on the kayak trips.....

[@hangonzales6196]

Oh man, poor Kipper.​@@AgateAngler

[@j.ericswede7084]

My suggestion for the kayak's name - "The Farther Shore" Always like watching your rockhounding videos. #RockOn

[@AgateAngler]

Thanks for watching Eric!

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

Acid Magic 😀😂! That has to be one of the best product names I’ve ever seen!

[@bellashealingartistry8934]

ASMR for me! Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@klairesprengel9335]

Rocky sounds good to me xx gr8 vid alex xx

[@AgateAngler]

Good idea!

[@joshualeedy5271]

"The smuggler" Not sure if the contest is still going. I have a cataraft I use for the same purpose down here on the rogue!

[@matthewslotoroff27]

I really appreciate all your videos and the work you put into them. So relaxing and exciting at the same time. They have become a sort of meditation for me. If that makes sense. Thank you and keep em coming!

[@sea2sea2seevanlife92]

I know absolutely nothing about anything in your videos... well, outside of dogs, so forgive my ignorance. When you’re talking about anything such as the acid bath, can you give specific details? I think I picked up 20 minutes... maybe 40 minutes? You stated you’d alter something... now I cannot remember what that was but I do remember wondering ‘how’ you would alter it. Really enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing them! A dear friend of mine sent me your last video as we’re both interested in the simple beauty of rocks... So glad she did. She and I are both ‘up’ there in age... it’s refreshing to see your youthful, wholesome, enthusiasm over the simple joys of life... even more so today.

[@AgateAngler]

Hi Luke, I should have clarified my process a little further. I did end up letting them sit in the acid for about 45 minutes. So glad you enjoy the videos, thanks for watching.

[@gigib333byars9]

How about Kip's banded beauty or just banded Beauty???

[@_CORO]

It appears to lose the natural lustre, cleaning the material off in acid.

[@-Slinger-]

The Aquamarine

[@gordonyork6638]

Why are you not using that baking soda with water to neutralize the acid before the water bath? Water doesn't neutralize acid it only dilutes it. It will still work though.

[@kaitlynnnikol907]

Hey I just stumbled upon your video as I just recently purchased some muriatic acid and was wondering how long did you leave them in the acid bath for?? Did you just wing it or did you figure out a systematic amount of time it took to achieve a good amount of gunk gone?? Thanks in advance ~K~

[@AgateAngler]

I just looked at each specimen to see when all the material was removed. I believe 30-40 minutes roughly.

[@billywhitehorn6397]

hey angler... how about the comet for the name of the kayak

[@pitoyolelono3408]

Terima kasih atas video anda. Banyak pelajaran baru yang saya dapat. Berkat Tuhan selalu bersama anda 👍🙏

[@scoobnicholas3868]

Name it the floatanator, as in searching for floater agates on the river bars and backs :)

[@malinda8668]

Congrats on the kayak. As you said, it will really open up the search possibilities.

[@debbiemitchell6055]

lol, my dad would have yelled at you for using metal tongs, and not preparing the baking soda neutralizer bath ahead of time. (He was such a perfectionist) Great video none the less thank you. Kayak Name: Rocks Speak

[@AgateAngler]

Debbie, You're totally right there. Definitely two things to improve upon for next time. Overall it went very well, but I strive for best practice. Thanks for watching.

[@jaredmitchell1302]

So those tongs and table were rusted days later. And the user friendly acid just means they diluted it with water for you as the more concentrated solution is meant to have water added for most uses.

Wow my dear Great video...

[@robertmandigo7942]

How about calling the kayak the SS AGATE. That acid will will take the paint off that table also if you didn't, you need to add baking soda to the water in the pail to help neutralize the acid faster also the acid will seep out of the rocks so soak them in the water longer then they were in the acid. I would use about a quarter cup of baking soda per gallon of water and then rinse the rocks with water.

[@coreybreiland7586]

Just bought that acid at Ace over the weekend for the same reason :-) thanks for the videos, keep me coming!

[@Rookie_Rockounding]

Dude! Kayaking for agates, I saw @RASE Dase do this a couple times on his channel and it looks really promising! He cleaned up and is such a cool guy, just original and unique! Nice man! Kayak rockhounding! Heck yeah!

[@AgateAngler]

I'm waiting for the water to go down to what I consider "safe" levels before taking it out, but I'm really excited to get out there and explore some lesser picked spots.

[@GalXsea-Class]

Yes love the information.thank you for sharing

[@amberlynnlove4804]

I'm new and love this channel

[@AgateAngler]

Thanks for watching. Lots of content to enjoy - WELCOME!

[@brewerbutler9588]

Good boy Kipp!

[@angelahorn2572]

The Geo Hound would be a good name for your kayak

[@AgateAngler]

That is a good name!

[@danababcock2766]

Great video! Call the kayak Ky.

[@AgateAngler]

I like it!

[@thomashealey4481]

agate dad,s velocity hunter

[@jcoutdoorfever]

You need to know the hardness of you rocks. I usually put my rocks in vinegar.

[@jenniferhenry7897]

Acid for burn me up ?

[@naomibargmeyer6075]

I use muriatic acid. Nothing happens, except my stones get stained yellow. I've found botryoidal agates but haven't found am effective means of removing host rock/matrix or this infamous red clay that this area is cursed with. My rocks must be fairly clean, since there's never a reaction when in the acid

[@edtherockhound9944]

So I watch all these shows and I really like you agate dad rookie rockhounding and rock wizardry. Your all helpful and will answer questions and comments and I like that about the rock community. Plus I’m so sick of the political crap and rocks are so relaxing

[@AgateAngler]

So glad you enjoy! I've been having a harder time keeping up with comments lately, but I do read almost every comment. Thanks for watching! Take care!

[@wintuwarrior5266]

Name for the kayak, rappid runner

[@gwynnfarrell1856]

That stuff just plain scares me! I know it can reveal great things but I found myself feeling anxious the whole time you were working with it. I'm glad you were super cautious and talked about the risks. How about "Kiplex" for the kayak? 😁

[@magdalenehenricus2075]

Amazing

[@kaamkic]

Your transition to the next frame when you say you’re cleaning off geodes with acid cuts off after “ac-“ so it sounds like you’re cleaning them with ass, which is ... unique.

[@AgateAngler]

Haha! That was certainly unintentional though funny!

[@virginiarocks]

I propose Agate Voyager for the kayak name. 😎

[@coreymerrill3257]

Corrosive . it is corrosive. Toxic will be the fumes it makes ....which are also corrosive... boric acid = dilute hydracholoric = muriatic .

[@AgateAngler]

Good clarification!

[@elsamarthafitzneryrra7545]

¡¡ Qué bien excelente información!! Saludos desde Guerrero México

[@eb311235]

My guess is limestone coating.

[@margaretkriel4996]

I love your videos Alex. My choice of name for your kayak is "Rock Hound". Happy hunting !

[@AgateAngler]

Thank you Margaret!

[@TheCraftyskill]

I was shocked you didn't have your baking soda bath set up at the start & only used water. Plus metal & acid bet the tongs have a few black areas now. You did say you were going to put some pants on yet you had shorts on bare skin & acid don't mix. A tip next time you do it turn the rock ever 20mins & leave in for an hour. My thinking is that the areas that didn't get fully clean were on the bottom of the jug & very little acid got trapped under the rock & base of the rock. Next time you do it bring acid bath as close to the edge of the table as you can this way there is less chance of acid drips on the tablet floor or you.

[@docwoolf3962]

smash the thumbs up for Kip!!

[@1monster59]

Rock Gator. First thought Rock Getter but I think the Gator is better. 👍

[@lakesuperiorlycan1676]

In case that kayak fails or you want to try another one that is convenient for lugging around in your car, yes IN your car not on top. I review the K2 inflatable kayak in my video here check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXfRZH2DfKiFgdk Id name your kayak the SS YellowStoner

[@AgateAngler]

I will check it out! Thanks for the heads up.

[@vorkev1]

I must be super human as I use a mix of merotic and sulfuric and do not use gloves or a respirator. Ben doing it for years

[@cynthiakoepke2649]

“Crystal Nymph” sounds like a good rock detector 🛶🖖

[@AgateAngler]

The "Kipper" was the winner. I took it out on the maiden voyage yesterday. Thanks so much for watching and commenting Cynthia.