USS Boise - "Pick out the biggest one and fire!"

Commissioned prior to the start of World War 2, the USS Boise saw extensive action in multiple theaters, from the Far East to the Mediterranean, and was a tough ship with a dependable and efficient crew. Named in honor of the state capital of Idaho, she was the 6th member of the Brooklyn class to be built. She was involved in 2 epic naval surface actions of the Pacific War - the Battle Cape Esperance and the Battle of Surigao Strait. Manned by a tough, well trained crew, Boise survived war and earned 11 battle stars for her service.
#unitedstatesnavy #pacificwar #worldwar2 #navalhistory #usnavy #navalwarfare #lightcruiser

[@user-du7gz4ge9i]

My father served on the Boise from April 1943 until October 1945. He replaced a man who was killed at Cape Esperance in 1942. He was at Gela, Sicily when she and her sister ships Savannah and Philadelphia smashed German and Italian tanks trying to drive the US Army back into the sea. After the invasion of Salerno, they went to New Guinea to join the US 7th fleet (MacArthur's Navy) and then invaded the Philippines in late 1944. Boise served as MacArthur's flag ship for the Luzon invasion as well as for his triumphal tour after the fall of Manila. I have just published a history of the Boise entitled The One Ship Fleet: USS Boise, WWII Naval Legend, 1938-45, which was published by Casemate Publishers, Haverstown and Oxford, 2023. If you're interested in knowing about one of the most famous US warships of WWII, check it out.

[@67cudaksa34]

if your father is till living tell him semper fi form an retired marine

[@darrellstarr2164]

Cool history with valor

[@TheValorVault]

I will thank you, and God bless your father for his service.

[@johndyson4109]

That's absolutely awesome dude you must be proud. My Father was a radio operator on a DC-3 out of India going to China over the HUMP' with the Flying Tigers escorting his flight into China to supply the Chinese against the Japs..

[@mavfin8720]

I'll give it a read. I love good books on the Pacific War. One about one of the 'machine-gun cruisers' would be great, I think.

[@garyhutmacher1935]

My Dad served on the Boise. I still have his Bluejacket manual where he wrote notes on a lot of the things he went through. Amazing what that generation did. They truly do deserve the name The Greatest Generation. Glad they aren't around to see the things going on in this country now.

[@karencox3757]

My father Kenneth Preston Howell, Jr. served on the USS Boise 1941-1945 . He put the 80 pound shells in the guns during the Battle of Cape Esperence. He was a Bosun Mate 1st class. He would tell us ab out the battle at night..and sewing up the body bags of the men who were burned beyond recognition to be buried at sea after the battle. They were in Pearl Harbor a few months before the attack in 1941...He also told us about the Kamalazis hitting the ship and when they were in the Mediterranean the "scary" V8 German Rockets. He also remembered seeing Douglas Mcaurther out on the deck smoking his pipe when they were taking him back to The Phiilipines. My Dad passed in 2004 and I received a journal he had during his time on The Bosie diring his service (they werent suppose to keep journals but Dad did anyway). He always spoke of the Bosie and her men with reverence and gratefulness that he made it home alive. I am glad to because I wouldnt be here if he didnt make it back. Thank you. Veterans and all who serve the USA🇺🇸🎖️🎉❤🙏🇺🇸

[@debtrombley518]

My Grandfather proudly served on the USS Boise.

[@melodyunger3277]

My Daddy was the top gun operator and the baker for the ship. Thank you so much for this video.

[@dans4459]

I was fortunate to attend the last reunion of the USS Boise, CL-47, held in Boise in 2002. Before the gala dinner, I sat in the hotel lobby with a group of aged men who told some amazing stories, several of them had been at Cape Esperance. CL-47's eleven battle stars, and her moniker, "The One Ship Fleet", both adorn the logo of the Los Angeles class submarine, USS Boise, SSN 764.

[@sheyrd7778]

My Grandfather served on the USS Boise in 1944. He passed 3 years ago. He was at that reunion too. I have his hat that he wore from that reunion. I wear that hat once in awhile to commemorate my grandfathers life and his service.

[@dans4459]

That's so cool! I wish I had of had time to meet them all. I remember meeting "Blast Off Bob". He was blown off the front of the ship at Cape Esperance, grabbed some wreckage hanging off the back, crawled back on board and returned to his station. There was also a guy who told of carrying shells to the guns to increase the rate of fire because the conveyors from the magazines to the guns could only go so fast. @@sheyrd7778

[@joebudde3302]

I worked for a former crew member from 79-85. He once descibed that first night action, he was part of damage control plugging enemy holes in the hull.

[@mavfin8720]

One account I have read of the battle says that the shell holes near the waterline let them flood the magazines before they could blow...

[@vrdesign1174]

My father was a Marine stationed on board. He was a turret captain in one of the surviving turrets at Cape Esperance. Sailed on the USS Boise through the Mediterranean cruise.

[@TheValorVault]

God bless him, I thank him for his service

[@pancho7647]

Fascinating! My grandfather was a sailor in WW2 as well. It's sad the story of this incredible ship is being told by someone who failed to cite any sources. Failure to cite your sources is unethical.

[@user-du7gz4ge9i]

He was probably in turret 3, which was in the capable hands of the USMC in combat. They earned the right to paint a big white E for Excellence on their turret and kept it there throughout the life of the ship.

[@johntechwriter]

I’m not a WWII expert as so many viewers on this channel are. Though I’m familiar with the epic battles of the war in general - Midway, Kursk, Stalingrad - it is the “little” players as shown here in a much larger game than they were designed for that brought home the almost unbelievable gallantry shown here, where a light cruiser whose mission was intended to be that of a bit player at most, ended up achieving a magnificent record against far stronger opposition. Like her namesake, I’ll wager most of her crew were from landlocked states, and the transition to seafaring life was hugely traumatic for them. But they kept on! And through similar audacious victories on both the oceans flanking America, it is time to pay tribute to the victories of those forgotten fighting ships finally acknowledged by documentaries like this. How sad that the men who fought these battles against deadly opposition have left us before receiving the honor that was their due.

[@marstondavis]

That was very well said.

[@markhansen3111]

Valiant crews and ship... They are incredibly brave and true.

[@bobbrown5529]

you said it , a sad ending for a great ship .

[@stephengamber7000]

Thank you Brave Sailors for protecting our Nation.

[@buckbenelli8]

We need them now more than ever. We have an ex president who adored Hitler and conspires with the dictator in Mucva.

[@michaelgallagher2663]

Great Story! Great Ship. Thank You. 👏👏👏🇺🇸

[@robertwaid3579]

Thank You for Sharing this Excellent Tribute to the Ship's thier Men and the Other Millions of other's that are now Referred too as The Greatest Generation. My Parents & My Grand Parent's were of that Generation. Sadly Telling Thier Stories Seems too Be Not Enough Now? But it is a Big part of Helping Us too Never Forget Them. God Help Us & Hopefully we Will Never Forget, Our previous Great ancestors Contributions to Ever Be Forgotten. Thank You Again. Wyoming, Robert a lonely History Buff, with an Exceptional Memory for Mere Trivia or itty Bitty amusement too Some.

[@mbryson2899]

Thank you for sharing your research, writing, graphics, and editing. You've done justice to the _USS Boise's_ story. ps- I don't mind the robovoice at all.

[@kennethhanks6712]

Also saved at Cape Esperance by heavy cruiser Salt Lake City who placed herself between Boise and IJN heavy cruiser Kinugasa helping shelter her from further damage.

[@TheValorVault]

Yes she was, Boise may have gone down had Salt Lake City not stepped in at that moment

[@jimdunigan7029]

@@TheValorVault I doubt it. The Brooklyn's were EXTREMELY rigidly built, with a LOT of redundancy. Not to mention, you have a 6" In. magazine but, the magazine is not like that of something along the lines of the Pennsylvania or New Mexico-Classes, where BANG you get hit.. you detonate(older design). The U.S. Navy did a LOT of study in the inter-war period on anti-fire countermeasure and fire suppression systems for their ships under design and construction during the treaty period. The Brooklyn's use "semi-fixed" ammunition, not "fixed" ammunition, which means all your "eggs" are not one basket. In the 6" In. magazine are containers housing the 6" In. casings but not the projectiles or the fuses. The casings(casings, primer, powder charge and cork cap)are in containers, however, there is a void between the casing tube and the outer shell of the container which is filled with glycol. So, if the container or container(s)are penetrated and there is a fire in the room? The glycol(anti-freeze)pours out and puts the fire out. On top of that? The powder magazine, where the physical powder is stored is two decks above("B" Deck)the 6" In. magazine down by the lower ammunition handling room. The survivability of the Brooklyn's were demonstrated with U.S.S. Savannah, CL-42. She was never in danger of sinking at any time during her ordeal off Salerno and in fact, per the after action report dated Jan. - Feb., 1944 prepared by the commandant of the Philadelphia and New York Navy Yards, she in fact could've taken two "Fritz X" air-to-surface munitions and survived due to her design, construction, rigidity and countermeasures in place to protect the integrity of the ship and its crew. And back to the point... U.S.S. Boise, honestly, would've likely just disengaged out of the line of fire to get things in order and head for Tulagi and then Espiritu Santo or Noumea for emergency repairs to get her stateside.

[@TheValorVault]

@@jimdunigan7029 so the Brooklyn's were unsinkable? Cause your kind of acting like they were... Yes, she was well built, tough and redundant, but the fact is that she wasn't well armored, certainly not against 8 in guns, and had a heavy cruiser bearing down on her 5,000 yards away with an "unopposed" line of fire (as Moran notes in his after action report). She would have been battered to a pulp, especially since her forward turrets were put out of action at that point. Both her battle damage report and naval history & heritage command state that a magazine explosion was very possible had the magazine not been flooded by shell hit number 6, since no one was left alive to flood it. Hornfischer notes that observers throughout her task force taught she was doomed, as in eye witnesses who were there. And comparing Boise's situation with that of Savannah's is an apples to oranges comparison. Yes, both had their hulls ruptured and experienced fire/explosions in their handling rooms and magazines due to battle damage, but when Savannah was hit she was still in relative safety as it was a one off, lone wolf type of attack. Boise was in the middle of a violent maelstrom of a close quarters naval gunfight with an enemy cruiser bearing down on her at point blank range. She already had significant damage and there was a good chance she was going to receive much more if something didn't give (SLC coming to her aid and Moran disengaging to port). She would of taken a lot more damage then Savannah did during her attack. At some point, it catches up and there would have been too many holes to fix and not enough personnel to fix them. Salt Lake City 100% helped to keep that from happening with her maneuver to shield Boise from Kinugasa.

[@jimdunigan7029]

@@TheValorVault The Brooklyn's aren't "unsinkable" but, the are VERY hard to sink. What they lack in armor? They make up for in other ways that allows them to take punishment many others couldn't take as well. But, what I'm saying is if Boise disengages in the manner of a fighting withdrawal from the action utilizing her aft turrets? Then SLC is not as "necessary"(as she was in the actual engagement)other than covering her withdrawal as she did for Moran. Never said SLC wasn't a necessary measure, just that had she disengaged she would've survived either way in the manner of a fighting withdrawal. I still HIGHLY double her magazines blow, it's very difficult to do with all the countermeasures Boise and her sisters had built into them. The Brooklyn's were designed to work WITH the crew, not against them under combat situations. And Savannah's hit wasn't a "one off", more than one aircraft came into the area, it was air cover that kept most of them beyond effective range. Later that day, the aircraft reentered the fight and hit several ships including a near miss on Savannah's sister, Philadelphia.

[@TheValorVault]

@jimdunigan7029 ok, fair enough. You do make a good point about a fighting withdrawal. I just believe that SLC saved their bacon to a point that night by drawing Kinugasa's attention away from Boise so they could get to relative safely to save themselves without being battered more. That class was certainly well built and could take some punishment. You know your stuff, thank you for the discussion sir. You are right about the St Louis class, I meant to call them cousins, not sisters, but I was working on it late at night and missed that when I was editing, which I do apologize for. I am a student of history, even in my late 30s, and I want to get it right, so thank you for correcting me on that. I was going to respond to that but I figured I'd just address it here. Thank you.

[@mitchellsmith4690]

My dad was in Boise during the battle of Cape Esperence.

[@ColKorn1965]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@sundownsigns]

Fine. My dad was just behind on the USS Helena CL-50.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Not a sad ending by being broken in 1982, but a long service for a good ship!

[@luisenriquedutari1130]

Sorry, but the argentine cruiser sunk in 1982 was the former USS Phoenix, not the Boise. This cruiser served under argentinean flag with the name of " 9 de julio. Best regards

[@mavfin8720]

@@luisenriquedutari1130 Aye, same class, different ship, was the Belgrano.

[@michaelmartin4552]

There is a memorial to the ship which has the ship's bell in Boise. On it is the plaque from the USS Boise that was made by the citizens of the city to honor the 107 killed at Cape Esperance. When the ship was decommissioned it was returned and they built a memorial for it. Oh, and as any local would tell you, "There is no 'Z' in Boise". I never understood why outsiders pronounce it "Boy-zee" instead of "Boy-see".

[@krismurphy7711]

Exceptionally well done. Thank You.

[@jiyushugi1085]

Bet he never used that searchlight again against the Japanese! Although the Japanese were late in adopting radar, they were aware of this shortcoming and had specially trained men who could spot ships at night from great distances. Chosen due to their superior vision, these men were kept below decks in a low-light environment during daylight hours and only came topside when it was completely dark.

[@bobkitchin8346]

Drachinifel just had a video of Boise/ARA Nueve de Julio's sister ship, the USS Phoenix/ARA General Belgrano. Apparently to keep the Belgrano going, the Boise's machinery was cannibalized. The Boise/Nueve de Julio gradually turned into a rusting hull. When the Belgrano was sunk during the Falkland war in 1982, the Boise/Nueve de Julio parts were no longer needed and she was scrapped in 1983.

[@TheValorVault]

Very interesting, thanks, I'll have to watch that later tonight. I haven't seen his latest videos in the last few days, but maybe I should have discussed that part of her life in a little more depth. Thank you

[@jessgatt5441]

My dad was at Espiritu Santo at that time. He was an aviation machinist's mate and doubled as an arial photographer as well. In those days sailors carried left-arm insignia denoting their duel first-class ratings..

[@donaldharrison8281]

My father was one of the Marines on Guadalcanal and the island of tulagi the island of sprito Santos..👍🏝️🇺🇸⚓🇯🇵

[@stevendyer6509]

My Uncle Tim was a crew member of this ship.

[@Kamaole3]

My father was on the west side of Surigao Strait on a destroyer (USS Daly DD-519) and talked numerous times about how they hated the Brooklyn-class cruisers in the 'battle line' on the north end of the Strait. The rapid fire of those ships lit up the night. They could see the IJN task force steaming north and knew the Japanese could probably see them.

[@user-du7gz4ge9i]

Was that the tin can that was hit by friendly fire?

[@Kamaole3]

@@user-du7gz4ge9i No they we not hit during that battle, but they saw a IJN torpedo go under them. It was set for a heavier ship.

[@mchrome3366]

Amazing ship I knew nothing about until this video. Thanks

[@pkh4340]

I had a dear friend whose battle station was those forward Boefers on the bow. He was an excellent Jazz pianist, and was deaf in one ear due to being so close to the 6” batteries.

[@Blacksheep1968]

Good work! More plz

[@chrisbaker6776]

Born and raised in Idaho , have seen the ships silver in Boise Museum . Had no idea , thank you. M. B.

[@user-cp4ku4gs7q]

Thank you

[@johnkress2360]

A brave and valiant crew. Salute

[@geraldmeskun85]

My father was a Marine and was stationed on the Boise . He was with the ship in the landings in Sicily and to the end of the war

[@nogoodnameleft]

USS Boise lost 107 men killed at the Battle of Cape Esperance. A designed plunging shell from a Japanese cruiser went into the waterline and hit Boise's turrets below the armored area, starting a fire that completely destroyed Turrets 1 and 2 internally (like what happened to USS Iowa in 1989). Everybody in Turrets 1 and 2 died.

[@williamkennedy3837]

Good viedo, great subject. Thank you sailors.

[@davidkimmel4216]

Thanks

[@danwallach8826]

Good job!

[@user-bb5dx7qn4g]

My dad was a Fire Control Technician in Turret 2 and was one of the last out before the magazine explosion. The shell that hit the base of the turret was a British shell the INJ had captured. If it had exploded I would not be writing this. Minor correction, Boise went to India for repairs after hitting the reef and was not escorting a convoy, but part of a TF steaming to harass an invasion force. Sorry we missed the last reunion.

[@paulacornelison243]

What was tragic about her end? She brought her crews home and lived out her life in service to her countries. As for scrap, her metal was reused for other goods. Would it have been better for her to have been sunk along with her crew?

[@allencampbell8322]

Good job

[@briankorbelik2873]

I've always heard about the Brooklyn/St. Louis class light cruisers. One of my fave ships was the USS Helena, a "St. Louis" model class. If I remember the difference in how their secondary 5" guns were turreted. The Helena was the USN's "big star" in the "Barroom Brawl", the first night of the two battles known as the "Naval Battles of Guadalcanel". The first night of which was on Friday the 13th, November,1942, and the USN had 13 ships, (DD's CL's, and CA's) that night.

[@doncatchpole]

Wow. Great story.

[@ErickSowder]

Great story. Thanks! Always thought the design of the 3rd turret on these ships looked odd being very low. But after hearing this about their incredible fire power I can see the benefits. Cheers.

[@williamfreeman9356]

Great chow and a dry warm bed to sleep on are the good things the bad things are so scary most people would just fall over dead any navy story is awesome . Im sad for the mothers and fathers that lost there sons and daughters .

[@Idahoguy10157]

Later came the new USS Boise SSN 764. Which unfortunately is out of service. Because of lack of shipyard availability. However a USS Idaho is on it’s way too commissioning

[@mikewalters5653]

Hell Yes!

[@TheMrazor]

It saddens me when I hear of a warship being scraped. Every ship I was on has been scraped or decommissioned. The USS Inchon,Nashville, South Carolina, Yarnell and Saratoga.

[@tenorlord]

I heard that the ship's nickname was the "Noisy Boise", because of those rapid fire guns.

[@JessWLStuart]

1:49 The Mogami class were built as *light* cruisers with 15 six inch guns. The Imperial Japanese Navy replace the 15 six inch guns with 10 eight inch guns. The Brooklyn class was built to counter the Mogami's as light cruisers.

[@paulkube3901]

My Dad served aboard the Boise, probably after the New Orleans was "shot out from under" him

[@kathyrambin7735]

My Daddy, C.J. Rambin served on the Boise.

[@greyjay9202]

A shame to see so many worthy ships end up at the breaker's yard. Boise could have been updated, and continued her career in the Navy, or even in the Coast Guard. She was fast and well armed, all in all a formidable ship. You would have to think twice before going up against her, even with today's modern warships. Her gunnery was excellent.

[@revparisking]

I'd I remember correct, there's a small brass plaque at the Philly shipyard commemorating the Boise.

[@user-pb2vo4pt3t]

The photos are of St.Louis/Helena. These were the only two Brooklyns with the scout seaplanes aft. Boise and six others carried theirs amid-ship. And had 4 single 5" guns per side in open mounts. Again, only St.Louis/Helena had the twin 5"/38 cal turrets, 2 per side. That said USS Savannah was rebuilt with this arrangement. All were going to be, but only Savannah received the rebuild.

[@user-hm1lv5de1y]

Just think of the 4th of July fireworks show that ship could have put on.

[@threecedarshomestead1330]

The Helena was the THE "Machine Gun Cruiser"

[@TheValorVault]

Yes that was the nickname she got after the Battle of Cape Esperance, but if you read Neptune's Inferno by Hornfischer, the Japanese made various references to BOTH ships being "machine gun cruisers" in dispatches and after the war in testimonies and eye witness interviews.

[@jonrigsby4925]

In reference to your reference to Hornfischer, you state in your video, "...earning her the nickname of THE machine gun cruiser." That is not accurate. USS HELENA was THE machine gun cruiser.

[@vchism712]

Wow....that $11.6 million the year my father was born in 1936 (and still going strong!) would be just under $250 million today!

[@slshusker]

Somebody tell us the name of the narrator. This dude has done voiceover on many great videos.

[@tedthesailor172]

Jeez - 150 rounds a minute... they must've been going at it like stokers in those turrets...!

[@mageckman]

5 big turrets with 3 guns per turret, 15 guns? 10 rounds a minute outta each gun, one round every 6 seconds. That's if the 150 rounds is only outta the turrets.

[@tedthesailor172]

@@mageckman Err, yes. That was explained in the narrative...Thank you...

[@jimdunigan7029]

No Brooklyn-Class ever achieved 150 rounds per minute. U.S.S. Savannah, CL-42 STILL holds the record and the closest tally to rounds expended in one minute, with 136 fired down range in one minute during gunnery practice in March, 1939. Which in short means, with exception to one particular main gun(don't ask which one, lol)U.S.S. Savannah, CL-42's gunnery divisions achieved NINE rounds a minute average with only one achieving ten. To achieve the potential numbers they would've been utilizing relays. A 6" In. HC shell when full assembled weights in as much as most sailors do 120 - 130lbs..

[@TheValorVault]

@@jimdunigan7029 yes you are correct, but I never stated that any of them did, I merely said that the specs say under perfect conditions, with flawless execution, 150 (10 per gun) rounds could be achieved. 136 is not far off of that pace. We all know that things change under actual battle conditions, but by all accounts Boise put out a tremendous amount of fire from her main battery at Cape Esperance. Over 800 rounds in 30 minutes of action (or so) is still an incredible amount of fire.

[@billyjoe415]

They had auto loading guns, rate of fire 10 rounds per minute per gun, times 15 guns is a lot of lead downrange. Reload time was right at 4.8 seconds to 5.2 seconds

[@willempasterkamp862]

Boyzee, thats a woody name to hear

[@ErraIsYourGirl]

The USS Helena CL-50 which is a sub class of the Brooklyn class was the Machine gun Cruiser not Bosie but all other facts check out

[@jpigretti62]

Me interesaría la historia del Phoenix ( ARA Gral Belgrano)

[@pancho7647]

Where are your sources?

[@rickjohnson6559]

I have to ask. Did the battleship Idaho share action with the Boise?????

[@TheValorVault]

They both operated out of San Pedro, CA from at least mid 1939 to May 1941 when Idaho was sent to the Atlantic to conduct Neutrality Patrols, so they more than likely operated together at least somewhat during fleet maneuvers and the yearly fleet problems. After that though, I'm doubtful they saw each other unless it was in passing. Idaho returned to the Pacific in Jan '42 but stayed off the West Coast (San Fran area) then operated up in the Aleutians, while Boise was in the Solomons. Even later in the war once Boise had made her way back to the Pacific, Idaho was working in the Central Pacific while Boise was along the New Guinea Coast. Then Boise worked mostly in the Philippines while Idaho was covering the landings at Iwo & Okinawa. Idaho did train in the Leyte area in July/Aug 1945, but Boise returned to San Pedro on July 7th, 1945, so there's no way they trained together there.

[@rickjohnson6559]

@@TheValorVault that's very cool. Thankyou. For some reason I thought the Idaho was with olmendorf at sirigao straight. But it was the Boise in that battle line. Thankyou so much. You are a credit. And pretty darn smart.

[@lawrencelewis2592]

Ernest Hemingway named one of his cats after this ship.

[@thecocktailian2091]

15 six inch guns does not sound like a light cruiser. Literally 2 inches seperating her from a battleship.

[@davejones67]

So any consequences for the captain for using search light?

[@kennethhanks6712]

Not in this instance. Using searchlights at night, at which the Japanese were quite adept, to identify/illuminate a target, as well as potentially blind enemy gunners was an accepted tactic that just did not work for Boise in this case--the kind of chance/happening that can occur in battles.

[@jarodcrazyindian]

My father has heard of this ship.

[@johnking6252]

...... Give me a fast ship , as I intend to go in harms way ...... not sure who said it but they were talking about cruisers ? 👍🇺🇲. Go Navy.

[@jimdunigan7029]

U.S.S. Boise, CL-47 and U.S.S. Helena, CL-50 were NOT "sisters". The St. Louis-Class Light cruisers were a two ship class designed in 1935. They were the successor class to the Brooklyn's, they were NOT of the Brooklyn-Class of light cruiser. Seven Brooklyn's and two St. Louis's... And no, the St. Louis's are NOT a "sub-class" or even "modified Brooklyn's"... 1. when the U.S. Navy refers to a "sub-class" they ACTUALLY mean submarines, the U.S. Navy does not designate classes based on anything like that of the Royal Navy and 2. the term "modified Brooklyn" will never be found in official documentation dealing with the Brooklyn-Class because it is a term only found in civilian publications. Comparing the Brooklyn's and the St. Louis's is like comparing apples-to-oranges, they're THAT different... The U.S. Navy distinctly recognizes the Brooklyn's and the St. Louis's as TWO separate classes of light cruisers.

[@vitkriklan2633]

Well, the thumbnail says USS Bosie. So much for effort.

[@jimdunigan7029]

@@vitkriklan2633 and U.S.S. Boise IS of the Brooklyn-Class. However, he mentions during the Battle of Cape Esperance... "that Boise and "her sister" Helena..." Helena is NOT of the Brooklyn-Class. She is the second ship of the two ship successor class the St. Louis's, designed in 1935. They were designed with a hand full of similarities(primarily on the exterior)but, there are a metric crap ton of differences which to compare the two classes make them like comparing apples-to-oranges, they are very different animals.

[@daskritterhaus5491]

the YT index and catalog pic spelled Biose the vid itself accompanying wording spelled Boise. some people have little regard for the vets too lay to spell the great craft's name right

[@TheValorVault]

It's called a typo, and I'm sorry. I've already corrected it. Thank you, but there's no need to take cheap shots.

[@jeesmith99]

Named for Uncle Bosie, who was shot down and eaten by cannibals.

[@jamessveinsson6006]

This girl should have been saved!

[@skyedog24]

The pronunciation for our state capital is BOY- C Not BOY-Z.

[@pisstinpete4700]

Toronto is in Italy?

[@TheValorVault]

Taranto not Toronto. www.google.com/maps/place/Taranto,+Province+of+Taranto,+Italy/@40.4390366,17.1679311,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x13471d1819a77b13:0x64f8f9a58d57dfcf!8m2!3d40.4643606!4d17.2470303!16zL20vMGZrYnk?entry=ttu Same place the Royal Navy attacked in 1940.

[@bigbob1699]

I bet she had iron sights .

[@jimlascola]

Hi Drach?

[@2854Navman]

Thought the USS Helena was "the machine gun cruiser"?

[@TheValorVault]

Helena was given that name by the press, but the Japanese referred to all the Brooklyn/St Louis class cruisers as machine gun cruisers or that their rate of fire was like machine guns.

[@2854Navman]

@@TheValorVault Okay, thanks!

[@haveraygunwilltravel]

Luckily she struck a coral head in the java sea in 1942 and had to leave. She might have been sitting on the bottom with Houston and Perth .

[@OverdriveGaming-plays]

Amazing history. I just wish that you would speak it in a normal conversational tone.

[@ThePhoenix198]

It's an AI narration.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Same size as a flight III Burke

[@jimdunigan7029]

Not quite, just under 100 feet longer and better armored than an Arleigh-Burke, faster, greater range and WAY more firepower(gun-wise) but, the Arleigh's make up for that with a variety of long range strike missiles. The Arleigh's are also five feet wider.(if you go by as the Brooklyn's were originally built but, after U.S.S. Savannah, CL-42's, refit, overhauls and repairs were completed in Oct., 1944 Savannah was slightly over three feet wider than an Arleigh)

[@Dog.soldier1950]

@@jimdunigan7029 interesting. The Burkes have 2/3 fewer sailors and are that much shorter but weight the same! Of course they rely on compartmentation instead of steel armor

[@TheDuckseason]

Slow down your rate of fire they said LMAO!!

[@sundownsigns]

The Helena did not have 15 16 inch guns, they were 6 inch. If they had 16 inch guns she would have been a battleship.

[@TheValorVault]

Yes you are correct and that is exactly what is said, 15 6 inch guns. I don't mention anything about 16 inch guns in the entire video.

[@robertotamesis1783]

Her sister ship the Belgrano(USS Phoenix )was not lucky.

[@bobsmith4185]

The way i see it..Scott.. screwed the whole force... at the bar room brawl... his caution to fire and not trusting the radar..and. no respect for the ijn long Lance ...we took more losses than we should have that night... but in 1942 most of all the old school officers were dropping the ball .. now ching lee was calling the shots that night.. there whould have a different outcome..like he proved the following night in the same water of iron bottom sound...

[@terrymarshall3377]

Why is it when you talk about a heroic ship like the Boise you never even mention the brave American sailors who did in the battles like Cape Esperance where USS Boise lost over 100 men in this damage you covered correctly. Everybody knows about the Marines ordeal at Guadalcanal but it is never mentioned that the American and Australian navy lost more me killed in one night at Savo Sound than the Marines lost in the whole Guadalcanal Campaign. Also when Bosie was damaged by a uncharted reef it was a major set back for the Asiatic Fleet because she had the only Radar there. And as for the poor US Army that fought so bravely in the Pacific nobody even knows they were even there unless the had family there or are a history buff.

[@bendalton5221]

The New Orleans class were not considered capable cruisers. The Northamptons, Portland and New Orleans class CA's of the US navy were all underarmored due to the naval treaty restrictions at the time, and the navy knew it. The Wichita was a fill-in class to test heavier armored class while the new class was under design and development (the Baltimore class). But the US CA"s performed horribly in surface actions and got slaughtered every time they were in gun battles because they couldn't take damage above or below the waterline.7 out of 15 were lost, that's not a very good ratio. The US didn't truly solve the heavy cruiser gap until the Baltimore class were in commission, and by then the Japanese heavy cruisers had been battered by air and sub power of the US navy so there was never again a cruiser action like there was earlier in the war to see how the Baltimore's would have performed against the Takao's or Myoko's

[@pierredecine1936]

Lashed out ferociously ??? Get a Grip, Dude !

[@christopher-ke9nj]

God's teeth Boise it takes more than,

[@trevormillar1576]

Then they sold her to Argentina where they rensmed her General Belgrano.

[@billyjoe415]

Yeah, which the British sank in 1982

[@mesauer]

There are no Zs in the name Boise. Most pronounce it wrong. Boise came from les bois or city of trees.

[@timothyortiz2222]

A gun ship is a force to contend with. Which is a waste to scrap every 20 years.

[@shawnbeckmann1847]

Boise used her spotlight to illuminate another ship.. Not Eliminate....

[@waynesmith9408]

YARDS...VS FEET ...Must we do so Much Math ? Gun Ranges are given in NM . NOT YARDS

[@mvaught8003]

Comments

[@alchilds3710]

kzbin.infok_cJN8CbiXY I learned this was the machine gun cruiser which one is it?

[@TheValorVault]

USS Helena got the fame and was referred to as "The Machine Gun Cruiser" by the US press, but the Japanese made multiple references in communications and documents to the Brooklyn & St Louis classes main batteries firing like machine guns during the engagements in the Solomons

[@Ka9radio_Mobile9]

It would be nice if you would not use a robot voice in your videos, your videos are ok but one knows that it is not a real voice. Your videos would be so much nicer and your channel would grow faster if we the viewer could hear the passion for navel history coming from the creator and not the AI GENERATOR. Thank You.

[@HighlanderNorth1]

🤖 Beep-boop.. As a robot, I appreciate the robo-narration in these videos. I'd prefer for Drachinifel to revert back to a robot voice! Seriously though, the Brooklyn/St Louis class cruisers were badass.

[@mbryson2899]

Narration and editing it takes a _lot_ of time and work, as well as requires additional equipment that is not free. What about robovoicing annoys you? Writing a script that results in proper pronunciation is no picnic, and this channel does it very well.

[@MrTennc]

As a person with bad hearing, I prefer the clear annunciation of a robot voice over a lackluster human narration.

[@chipper02]

More AI narrated crap