USS Maine (BB10) - Guide 220

[@Drachinifel]

Pinned post for Q&A :)

[@connormclernon26]

Do you think sail power has a future in the modern shipping industry?

[@mr.shorty5856]

Can you explain the events of operation "duck"

[@senecanero3874]

How would the modern german navy fare as reenforcement for the german fleet at jutland? So the german fleet at jutland is now what historicly was there + the modern german navy

[@Thirdbase9]

Hi Drach. A freeboard question. How much? In battleship construction video you mentioned it, but not how much. Thanks.

[@wildkarrde3370]

What are the cylindrical structures on top of some WW2 era destroyer and cruiser based torpedo launchers? What do they contain and why do some launchers not have them? I've mostly noticed them on American ships but feel like I've seen them on Japanese as well.

[@aurictech4378]

So, the first USN battleships with a 12" Maine battery.

[@rmod42]

Take your damnned like and get out 😂

[@M167A1]

Boo! sssssss Booooo

[@reesetompkins7987]

BOOOOOOOOOOO

[@invadegreece9281]

Bruh

[@kamdenbarclay486]

Da bum tss

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Congress: Here's _some_ budget Navy: Wow, didn't think we'd actually get money

[@thehandoftheking3314]

USN: *startled Pikachu face*

[@joshthomas-moore2656]

US Navy: Congress is giving us money, quick spend the cash before they ask for it back

[@HMSVanguard46]

You again!?

[@micfail2]

Lol how times have changed. These days it would be more like USN: We can haz money? Congress: hehe money printer goes BRRRRRRRR

[@micfail2]

Seriously, I hope everybody's ready for hyperinflation. something like 65% of all US dollars in circulation were printed in the last year, the global economy is on very thin ice

[@stevevalley7835]

As Drac noted, these were the first USN battleships mounting the new 12"/40, which was specifically designed to use smokeless powder. As mentioned in response to another question a week or so back, when the 12"/40, and the 8"/40, were designed, the designers did not fully understand the dynamics of smokeless powder. As a result, these guns had a tendency to blow off their muzzle and chase, due to higher than expected pressure in the tube. The Navy instituted a modification program that encompassed installing a heavy nickle steel liner inside, and hooping the barrel to the muzzle on the outside to reinforce the barrel. The Maines also used the Mk IV turret, which was the first balanced large turret used by the USN. The preceding Illinois class was the first the use the Mk IV, but pared it with the older 13"/35. As Drac said, by WWI all the Maine and Illinois class ships were relegated to the reserve squadron, spending the bulk of their time tied up in a navy yard with a skeleton crew. On March 6, 1915, Maine was being used as a receiving ship in the Brooklyn Navy Yard when a sea cock burst and the ship sank at the pier.

[@afx935]

The RN MAJESTIC class 40 cals also tended to blow their muzzles off, but they blamed it on warping at the muzzles (bulging or some such), though I have always wonder if a changed pressure wave was the real cause as it was in the U.S. guns.

[@stevevalley7835]

@@afx935 I have read that the guns on the Majestics had another issue: "steel choke". Apparently what happened was that, as the gun was fired and the liner stretched, a ridge would form in the liner. Eventually the ridge would grow to the size that the shell would be jolted enough when it hit the ridge to start the fuse. This became more of a problem when guns from the Majestics were remounted on the Lord Clive class monitors, due the heavy use the guns were subjected too. iirc in one case a monitor in the Gallipoli campaign fired, the shell detonated just after leaving the muzzle, and a nearby French destroyer was showered with shell fragments. "Steel choke" was suffered by some other guns as well as those from the Majestics. It was a matter of a learning curve, how to design the liners so they would not develop that ridge.

[@briannicholas2757]

You seem very knowledgeable about USS Maine, number 2, a d the great white fleet era in general. Being from Maine, the 2 predreadnought USS Maines have always fascinated me. My goal is to build the 1/350 scale resin models of these ships ( the price of resin kits is a bit daunting) and from time to time I search the net and ebay looking for one of the amazing wooden kits of the first Maine which was made in a very limited run by Bluejacket Ship Crafters, a ship modeling company here in coastal Maine. ( I did get lucky and find one of their limited release kits of USS Olympia). Bluejackets models a quite large and are definitely museum quality.

[@twentypdrparrott694]

My great uncle John Ellis Stevens enlisted in the US Navy in 1916. He was sent to Norfolk, Virginia for basic training and assigned to the receiving ship Richmond. The Richmond was an old steam frigate. She had been part of Farragut fleet at Vicksburg in 1862, She still had her steam plan on board and my great uncle learned steam on her. During WWI he was assigned to BB-11 USS Missouri as a stoker for the duration of the war.

[@tfeagins]

My great grandfather served on the same vessel. Had coins from around the world.

[@christopheryoung3356]

The original USS Maine of the Spanish American War's mast and ship's bell can be found at Arlington National Cemetery - worth a visit if you're in DC.

[@richardcutts196]

When I was a teenager (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth) they had a shell from USS Maine outside the old soldiers home in Minneapolis. They also had what looked like a collection of old cannons behind a stone wall overlooking the Mississippi river.

[@mmatthews61687]

A chunk of the hull is in my city of Bangor Maine as well.

[@haroldhenderson2824]

@@richardcutts196 You can't be to careful with those Cajuns coming up the MIssissippi.

[@richardcutts196]

@@haroldhenderson2824 Unfortunately They built some new buildings and the area's now a parking lot.

[@kirkstinson7316]

The mast stands in and above a necropolis that holds the bones of many of the crew

[@frankvc5899]

As a Spaniard, this video can only be described as UNEXPECTED

[@shaider1982]

The destruction of the Maine had a large effect on your and my country.

[@warhawk4494]

As a American all I can say is "Remember the Maine!" Lol y'all have a good day

[@isaiahsmith7123]

You're thinking of BB-001, that's the Maine that sank in Cuba, this was a new Maine.

[@thesuit4820]

No on expects the Spanish Inquis... Explosion.

[@Halinspark]

That'll teach you to be in scapegoating range!

[@johnknapp952]

Just realized how small these early BB's were. Even though heavier and wider than the Knox class FF's I served on, you could almost hide the Maine behind a modern Frigate let along an Arleigh Burke class DD. It would be interesting to see how the ships would stack up to each other in a shooting match.

[@DardanellesBy108]

I was thinking the same thing. I looked it up and the BB-10 is only 16 feet longer than a Fletcher Class Destroyer!

[@lalucre1803]

Well... a shootout would be pointless. The modern day standoff weaponry would sink any old vessel before they would even know the enemy is near. While at the same time, if only reduced to gunfire, the tiny modern guns habe no chance against the armored steel beasts of the past.

[@petman515]

It's one of the reasons I keep saying some form of modern battle ship may be viable . A 15000 ton bb would be in line with modern ship sizes and with modern tech could be a nasty dance partner.

[@robertslugg8361]

@@petman515Until the first sub happened by. Think Falklands.

[@petman515]

​ @Robert Slugg not really the mistake you are makeing is one i hear a lot when i bring this up people instantly think it would in some way look like a 1940s or earlyer ship . if you built a modern battleship would look nearly nothing like what we tend to think of as a battle ship think 2 main turrets in 8 or 10 inches with guided ram jet shells ciws and several missle systems. I have thought about this considerably i legitimately think as disappointed at the navy is with the zumwalts may be good candidates for some form of conversion that may make them legitimately useful ships. What i have in mind is in no way legitimately comparable to a pair of old treaty era cruisers that lacked any reasonable proper modernization owned by a lets be honest 3rd rate navel power.

[@JohnFMoser]

As a small boy in 1979, I was told by my mother about an Irish relative, a great-uncle called (I believe) Patrick Monaghan. He was blown sky high on the deck of the USS Maine in 1898. Being asked recently about the origin of the magazine title '(The) main street journal' that I started in 1993, this may well indeed have been the alarming source, along with 'Exile On Main Street' by The Rolling Stones (which isn't admittedly so intriguingly obscure).

[@simongroot7147]

The title of this series is 5 minute guide etc. More or less. I have watched all of them. I do not recall one less than 5 minutes. No complaints they are always good.

[@justinbane100]

As a Mainer this is the one I've been waiting for! I wish we had had another battleship, now all the state of Maine has is a cylinder that carries a bunch of other stupid cylinders!

[@jamesbednar8625]

Well, IF the MONTANA class of battleships had been built during WWII, there would have been another MAINE. also, MONTANA is the only state in the Union to NOT a battleship named for it.

[@justinbane100]

I would have loved to have seen that version of Maine. Montana may not have the battleship, but at least it has more mountains and rivers then we do.

[@thekinginyellow1744]

Yeah, but even one of those stupid cylinders is more more of a weapon than any battleship ever built. Not as much fun at parties though. :(

[@Keaperman]

lol, when you have spent the last 4+ hours re-listening to old Drach video's and you notice the ping that something new is up. :)

[@Brix_H]

Last time I was this early, the commanding admiral of the 2nd Russian Pacific Fleet still had his binoculars

[@richardm3023]

Kamchatka reports Japanese torpedo boats to starboard!

[@AtholAnderson]

Aurora has been struck by friendly fire again.

[@SSN515]

The Emperor expects every man to do his duty.

[@rictusmetallicus]

The last time i was so early, this joke was old

[@rickthelibrarian3808]

The Maine was known as a "coal hog" and Adm. Robley Evans said she had NO "economical speed", This was due mainly to her Niclausse boilers.

[@afx935]

Yes. A couple of the VIRGINIAs had them as well (GEORGIA and NEW JERSEY I think). After they returned from the Cruiser they were all reboilered with standard Babcocks.

[@Paveway-chan]

With the introduction of this design, U.S. battleships received a new and improved Maine battery of 12" guns

[@MatthewChenault]

There’s also the original USS Texas, which is currently lying nearby the same island the British navy used as a launching point for their Chesapeake bay campaign during the war of 1812 (Tangier Island, Virginia).

[@mikestone9129]

I wish you'd do a video on the USS OKINAWA LPH-3. I served on board her during the Viet Nam war. Had a lot of good memories, and some bad, the fall of Viet Nam we took a lot of refugees on board, but left too many as well.

[@ryangale3757]

Not gonna lie, took me a minute to remember this video WASN'T about the original USS Maine haha. Really had me going there for a bit.

[@gallendugall8913]

The rains in Maine fall mainly on the Maine.

[@DardanellesBy108]

LOL!

[@middleway5271]

Having my cats wake me up bright and ugly isn't so bad if I can catch the latest Drach installment.

[@baronvonjo1929]

BROOOO SAME

[@namtar223]

Same 4:30 am cat alarm clock

[@middleway5271]

@@namtar223 ha! Yeah every dang day about 5! I don’t mind so much on the week days because I have to get up for anyway for work but the weekend it’s a little annoying. I still love the furry little annoyances.

[@mikearmstrong8483]

Damn little furballs won't even let me watch this video in peace. "We want breakfast noooooowww! Noooooowwww!"

[@micfail2]

@Mike Armstrong I feel your pain. One of mine likes to wake me up demanding breakfast by laying on my chest and pulling out hair from my beard one at a time with his teeth

[@agesflow6815]

Thank you, Drachinifel.

[@stevewixom9311]

Really liked this vid. Love learning about our early BB's. Great pic at 2:43... thanks

[@SteamCrane]

Love that officer's hat, so arrogant.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

I've seen the mast and her bell when visiting Arlington National Cemetery, when I lived in Northern Virginia. It was as sobering as the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

[@PhantomoftheHeadShop]

On a cool note and I dont if its mentioned in the vid cause i just started it, but her bow scrolls are preserved in a park in Bangor Me, along with several other relics from the Spanish American War

[@John-ru5ud]

Newspaper publisher Hearst to artist Fredrick Remington - "Go to Cuba and get me some war pictures." Remington to Hearst - "Arrived Havana. No war. Returning on next boat." Hearst to Remington - "You supply the pictures. I'll supply the war."

[@kilianortmann9979]

If you start it, I'll write about it. If you write about it, I'll start it.

[@mitchelloates9406]

And sadly, a century later, they decided to repeat nearly the same process - a manufactured war - with Iraq.

[@lawrencelewis8105]

It's where the expression "yellow journalism" comes from . Hearst was depicted as Mickey Dugan, the "Yellow Kid. The kid didn't speak but what he had to say was printed on his yellow night shirt that he always wore. Hearst was depicted as the kid in an editorial cartoon with pro-war sayings printed on his night shirt. Look it up, "The Yellow Kid" by Richard Outcault. It was pretty much the first comic strip as we know them today.

[@demonprinces17]

@@lawrencelewis8105 my grandmother had a book of his toons

[@lawrencelewis8105]

@@demonprinces17 Great stuff, isn't it? I have a book about it that I bought 20 years ago.

[@themecoptera9258]

Thanks for the reminder

[@coolpilot7819]

I do really love some of the US pre-dreadnoughts and would love to see a video on the USS Mississippi

[@glenmartin2437]

Thank you.

[@CAUSELESSREBEL]

Nice review on the class.

[@Mclaren302]

I've been waiting for this episode

[@tantalos60]

In the mid 2000's I visited Arlington National Cemetery. I was very surprised to find a mast from the Maine in a Memorial setting. I can't remember if it was the fore or aft mast. Unfortunately, I didn't take a photograph. At that time, it seemed to me as disrespectful to all the fallen buried there.

[@kyledean4512]

It took me way to long to realize this was not the USS Maine I was looking for..

[@mmatthews61687]

I live in Maine 👍🏼

[@augustosolari7721]

This is going to be explosive

[@assessor1276]

Saturday morning Drach.....ahhhhhhhh

[@rayner417]

America has its first proper pre dreadnaught. Let the final boss music begin. Great stuff as always

[@derhesligebonsaibaum]

Let's blame the Maine on Spain!

[@Brix_H]

The Maine in Spain falls on the plains

[@thehandoftheking3314]

@@Brix_H t The Maine in Spain falls pretty much all over the harbour

[@williamgandarillas2185]

The pain in the rain from Maine falls on Spain

[@TheNinjaDC]

I mean, 19th century congress penny pinchers blame this Maine on Spain.

[@species3167]

Nice History of the Entire World reference (I Guess...)

[@shaunbrennan5281]

Hello Mr Drach. Do you think you could one day give a description of some of the terms used, casement , seakeeping, tumblehome etc etc.Particularly warship specific ones.You have prob explained all these things in prev vids but having them all together would be a handy reference for a landlubber such as yours truly.

[@crazylocha2515]

Might want to put this suggestion in the pinned for q&a at the top where he is more likely to see it

[@shaunbrennan5281]

CrazyLocha Ah, ok. Thanks Crazy.

[@greenseaships]

Drach- This is my new favorite place on KZbin!! Thanks for all your work. I have a suggestion IF you are AT ALL in a position to do one of these. Do you think you could turn your attention to WW1 rigid airships? I know you're more into the navy of the SEA but I was recalling Doug Robinson's excellent book on WW1 German Naval airships and in your awesome narrative, I think it would make such a good video. Perhaps a half-hour special covering it all, even leaving 30 seconds or so for BRITISH rigid airship programs? (R29 for the win!). Anyways, thanks for your work!

[@NguyenThanh-gs5zv]

Ah Congress, the navy worst nightmares.

[@whitephosphorus15]

Back when Congress didn’t just give the military a blank check. Imagine how many Zumwalt-esque projects the navy could have wasted money on otherwise.

[@NguyenThanh-gs5zv]

@@whitephosphorus15 If you mean Congress nowadays? yeah they willing to give money on some pointless projects, but old days congress are very stubborn and conservatives about giving check to military, i don't like how they shafted navy and bring some of their guys in high-ranks in order to keep USN in check. The standard-type was designed around that policy, to keep budget in check, they to make a compact battleship with enough firepower and protection as expense of speed, otherwise there are many superior designs better than standard-type but congresses willing not to give money.

[@halojump123]

They just gave billions to China. 1.9 Trillion stimulus a large majority going to other countries.... dominion has itz people in place.

[@Alpha4943]

Sorry Drach but it has to be done. You are the Maine man!

[@billboth4814]

To follow on my earlier comment, the sinking of the Maine made war with Spain all but inevitable. That war saw the US capture the Philippines and Guam which led to conflict with Japan culminating in WW 2. Interestingly both USS Maine and USS Arizona were built at the Brooklyn Navy Yard--just a few miles from Ground Zero.

[@GCho733]

Remember the Maine! The other Maine!

[@briannicholas2757]

Okay so I simply couldn't resist making a comment/innuendo, and am surprised Drach let this one get by. Does anyone else find the picture at 3:22 a tad bit amusing ( in that schoolboy sort of way). A Gunners mate with a very large cannon between his legs, polishing it whilst at sea. Hmmmm. I'm guessing most of the crew spent a great deal of time polishing cannons whilst at sea. I apologize, but I simply couldn't resist.

[@warhawk4494]

Great video

[@shononoyeetus8866]

Ok well there was a scream from my phone and it woke me up and I had a small heart attack but I caught this video. Every cloud has a silver lining I guess

[@rayzas4885]

With how limited money the USN navy got prior to teddy getting in positions of power it's kinda a miracle it preformed so well in the spanish America war

[@DardanellesBy108]

This Maine was launched in 1901 and the “other one” was sunk in 1898.

[@gregsiska8599]

Drach, please do Fort Drum, the Concrete Battleship.

[@model-man7802]

Hope's and Dreams=Monitors

[@ilfarmboy]

brown powder(semi smokeless) also more stable than black powder

[@Jack29151]

DDG = Designation Destroyer Guided missile the Navy seems to put what type of ship it is before what it does.

[@Rocketsong]

So, roughly the same displacement as a late WWII Cleveland class Light Cruiser.

[@jetstreamer374]

I want to see Kalakala reviewed

[@empath69]

Oh! I remember this one... ...or at least I remember I'm supposed to remember it - WHAT was I supposed to remember....oh well, bet Drach will remind me!

[@bobjackson4287]

Do Shinano.

[@madrabbit9007]

Looking forward to more American pre-dreadnoughts, we sure did build some odd ducks.

[@imgonelol169]

hi

[@robertmatch6550]

Never a bad time for a war with Spain. That's something to keep in the ol' back pocket! Otherwise, up a bit early this morning. Time to boil breakfast.

[@mikepette4422]

well maybe thats bidens next target ?

[@Maddog3060]

Cool, I admittedly don't know much about the pre-Dreadnought USN so it's neat to see stuff like this. And I still call a certain robot "Alabama" because of the hull numbers. :P

[@mikegord]

Notice how small nee narrow the Maine class ships are and how much distance there is between the ships side and the canal wall. The Ohio class of ships could barely fit thru the Canal. The ships kept growing and growing untill the became obsolete.

[@LukesYuGiOhChannel]

Not a bad ship.

[@bullettube9863]

I have a copy of "The American Steel Navy" which has some of the best photographs you'll ever see anywhere. They used silver plates which captured a lot more detail then Kodak film could but was also very expensive. Yet the US Navy commissioned several photographers to take silver plate photos under assistant secretary Roosevelt direction. Teddy wanted to change the public's perception of the navy and it's sailors as drunken, disorderly layabouts to a more friendly admiration. This also involved better training and discipline. He succeeded and congress listened to the voters and gave the navy more money.

[@alishahellewaage6175]

Last time i was this quick, the German Navy actually had the budget for independent major deployment

[@viperuscopperus]

ditto

[@baronvonjo1929]

Why do Britan and Germany not maintain large navies anymore

[@greycatturtle7132]

@@baronvonjo1929 I don’t know the reasons for the Royal Navy but it seems that after the Second World War the budget started to go down and with that, many ships were deactivated, now from Germany it is due to the fact that everyone depends on the United States to protect them, that's why they don't invest in a big navy.(I don't know if that is the reason but is my opinion).

[@baronvonjo1929]

@@greycatturtle7132 Being dependent on another nation to protect you is not a good idea.

[@thomilsvlog4544]

@@greycatturtle7132 There's also the fact that Germany simply doesn't have a large coastline to protect anymore. In addition, a fleet of (currently) ten frigates, five corvettes, six submarines, three large and two small fleet oilers, a whole gaggle of minesweepers, tenders and other auxiliary chraft, as well as having access to the Dutch amphibious support ship Karel Doorman is actually pretty damn big given the meagre Baltic & North Sea coastlines of Germany. The number of frigates is due to rise to eleven once all F-125 ships are in service, while the corvette force is due to double in size to ten ships, with two additional submarines also on the order books.

[@phaasch]

Being a lookout in an uncovered spotting top on those cage masts looks precarious in the extreme.

[@afx935]

Safer to climb up than with the tripod masts. The Cage masts got a bad reputation, because of MICHIGAN's foremast collapse, but that was in a sever gale, the SOUTH CAROLINAs rolled notoriously because of the superimposed turrets, the mast had been damaged, but not effectually repaired by burst gun, and the tops were rebuilt and were heavier than the design load of the mast, which had not been reinforced, because, you know, money. The were greatly superior to the fighting masts that they replaced, and were on par, and generally lighter (IIRC) than tripod masts.

[@American_Jeeper]

Please please please do a video on the 1854 sloop of war USS Constellation and the decades-long conspiracy/controversy surrounding whether she was a razee rebuild of the 1797 frigate USS Constellation or an entirely different ship.

[@afx935]

She was a different ship entirely, but may have had some non-structural timber from the original CONSTELLATION aboard. There was a very strong anti-navy sentiment in Congress (and the U.S. as a whole) during the 19th Century. Connie needed to be replaced, but Congress would not authorize a new ship, but would authorize repairs and refits, so the dodge in the Navy was to build a brand new warship under the guise of repairing an older one. A number of ships were acquired this way. The 1880s-90s monitors most famously.

[@American_Jeeper]

@@afx935 yes, I know, I have a copy of Fouled Anchors: The Constellation Question Answered, as well as the article “An Apple and an Orange: Two Constellations at Gosport, 1853 -1855”. I grew up in Baltimore and first saw Constellation in 1977, when she was still being passed off as the frigate. Every time I was at the Inner Harbor, I went on board. I vehemently disagree with the way she was “restored”, as it was, in my opinion, an extremely lazy, albeit cheaper than a traditional restoration; she is still unseaworthy and prone to rot. As for the non structural timber’s, it would be nice to say that parts of the old frigate made it to the sloop of war, however there is zero proof. No documents exist to validate the theory, which is caveated with “supposedly” by the current caretakers to placate the frigate believers who had their bubbles bursted. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that she could have had any usable timbers, structural or otherwise, given her extremely hogged and twisted condition, when she was pulled out of ordinary at Gosport in 1853. What I’d like to hear is Drachinifel’s historical take on the sloop of war vs the frigate, her accomplishments and her rightful important place in history as the last all-sail navy ship. Keep in mind that there are plenty of subscribers who have no idea about these two ships or their intertwined controversial history, and I think it would make an incredible video.

[@andrewmontgomery5621]

Is that the USS Maine which was blown up in Havana, Cuba?

[@DardanellesBy108]

No. This one was launched in 1901. I was also hoping the video would be about the one sunk in 1898.

[@RonOhio]

Have you ever done a deep dive on the cause of the Maine explosion?

[@bluehadoo1]

The first Maine was raised from Havana harbor over ten years after the explosion and sinking. It was towed out to open waters and sunk. An investigation over 70 years later led by Admiral Hyman Rickover determined that coal dust in a forward bunker spontaneously caught fire and detonated the forward magazines. But no one will ever truly know, although it is pretty much accepted that the Spanish didn't mine the ship, nor did they have any reason whatsoever to do so. The sinking of the Maine was a trigger for American colonialism at it's worst.

[@animal16365]

I hope you do a special on the ARC USS Maine.

[@magosleibowitz9626]

Mainer gang rise up

[@adamalton2436]

Will we ever see a video on the other USS Maine?

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Commenting for the algorithm.

[@enalche2]

As a spanish, hearing this name specially on this ship... its... complicated

[@RCAvhstape]

It's not the ship that was used as an excuse for a war, though. It's the one built afterwards.

[@enalche2]

@@RCAvhstape i know, its like a Vietnam vet having flashbacks with popcorn making, not the same but enough to remember 😉

[@77thTrombone]

Since you mention it: if I say "D*w*y" or "Ma***a B**," I expect you might perceptibly wince, so I won't say these things. Sorry. Nothing personal.

[@enalche2]

@@77thTrombone thanks, appreciate it.

[@enalche2]

Wait

[@stephenbond1990]

Another Pre-Dreadnought, Yay!

[@ianthebarefootwoodworker516]

While practical I always hate hearing these videos ending with ‘sold for scrap’.

[@Jalu3]

How about the USS Tutuila, which found itself ending its service with the RoC Navy Or how about the USS Lanikai which successfully escaped the fall of the Philippine Islands

[@afx935]

Unfortunately these ships as built had a much greater metacentric height, which made them very bad gunnery ships. In the big 1908 gunnery competition in Magdalena Bay, Mexico, all three battleships finished dead last. MAINE's engine inefficiency was the result of her smaller, but more numerous Nicolausse type boilers, which ate coal at an alarming rate even while in port. Several other battleships had them, and I think it was NEW JERSEY who made it into Rio with just a few hours of coal remaining. ALABAMA had gone aground a few months before the fleet sailed, and had damaged one of her engines' cylinders, and it only got worse as time went by. MISSOURI suffered a turret fire in 1904 during gunnery exercises killing 30 some men. It was one commander Sims who was her gunnery officer. The propellant burned, but did not explode (ala cordite), and the USN installed compressed air bore evacuators on all ships as a result.

[@danpower-JP]

Wanna hear a joke from when Spain had a empire in the 19th century? The US modern capital ship force

[@johnlavery3433]

It says something that the Royal Navy were the main enforcers of the monroe doctrine

[@captiannemo1587]

Somewhat? Somewhat? USS Oregon went AROUND South America... if that isnt Ocean Going IDK what is.

[@Ashfielder]

What does the ‘calibre’ refer to in the gun names? 12” bore, with a 40 inch shell length?

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

12" bore, with a gun length of (12*40)".

[@Thomas-rk4rl]

Calibre in this case is the amount of times longer than the bore of the barrel that the length is. So for a 12"/40, the barrel is 40 x 12 inches long

[@bucht91U]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliber_(artillery)#Barrel_length The length of the barrel (especially for larger guns) is often quoted in calibers. For example, US Naval Rifles 3 in (76 mm) or larger.[2] The effective length of the barrel (from breech to muzzle) is divided by the barrel diameter to give a dimensionless quantity.[2]:81 As an example, the main guns of the Iowa-class battleships can be referred to as 16"/50 caliber. They are 16 inches in diameter and the barrel is 800 inches long (16 × 50 = 800). This is also sometimes indicated using the prefix L/; so for example, the most common gun for the Panzer V tank is described as a "75 mm L/70," meaning a barrel with an internal bore of 75 mm, and 5,250 mm long (17 ft 2.69 in).

[@shawnkennedy855]

a 40 calibre gun barrel is 40 times the length of the shell diameter

[@Ashfielder]

Thanks for the answers!

[@scottmacdonald1877]

Battleships usually do not explode while in port.....

[@atfyoutubedivision955]

But it does happen. Several japanese battleships had magazine detonations in port.

[@aaronlea9559]

Nice

[@adumbaby]

3:23 we’re just not gonna talk about that guy ok

[@The_Viscount]

American war machines have generally favored survivability, crew accommodations, and reliability over raw combat capabilities. This holds true even now with modern ships, armored vehicles, and aircraft.

[@redjacc7581]

IJN Yubari please :P

[@jrd33]

So, compared to the contemporary British Formidable class, the Maine had: 2,000 tons less displacement 1,000 more HP same speed 2" more belt and turret armour 4 more guns in the secondary battery So much for design trade-offs! Were the American ship designers and builders just better than the British, despite having much less experience at building battleships? (I'm not American, this is an honest question)

[@kemarisite]

I'm going to guess the armor layout is a big issue. The Formidables had that 9" belt over the entire length and height of the belt, while the Maines' belt got up to 11" around the magazines and machinery spaces, but only 8" elsewhere and dropping down to 5.5" and 4" along the bottom edge. Additionally, the Formidables used 12-pounder (3") guns in the tertiary battery and had to provide space for an extra couple hundred crew.

[@userbosco]

My grandfather was born on the day the Maine was sunk.

[@blumenthol]

I thought this would cover the sinking of the Maine in Havana Harbor -

[@darthnerd4432]

What did they call pre-dreadnoughts before the Dreadnought was invented.

[@dunamoose3446]

Battleships.

[@elcastorgrande]

Capital ships. Navy to Congress: You supply the capital, we'll supply the ships.

[@jandejong2430]

Krupp is pronounced with the oo in wood.

[@redshirt5126]

The rain is Spain stays Maine......wait, wrong movie.

[@nathandurrence134]

Can we get a video on the Connecticut or Mississippi class pre-dreadnought battleships?

[@TycoonTitian01]

Nice vid! Tho youtube still wont send me notifications 😑

[@jamestheotherone742]

I'd forgotten that San Francisco had a shipyard capable of building a battleship in the early 1900s.

[@ExponentialCircle]

Normally I love seeing the discussions and jokes in the comments.

[@robertslugg8361]

This was back when someone was keeping an eye on Mexico.

[@lesterbeedell9725]

The Spanish Maine? 😳😳😳

[@evanchan4012]

Well blame something on them and go to war What should we blame on Spain *USS Maine explodes Let’s blame the Maine on Spain ... and so they blamed the Maine on Spain

[@tonyk8592]

As well as the rain, that falls Maine-ly on the plain.......

[@petebrian2841]

Blame the Maine on Spain until the Wright's invent the plane.

[@RCAvhstape]

This thread is becoming lame.

[@lawrencelewis8105]

The Maine was blown up by an internal explosion in the forward magazine. It would not surprise me if it was sabotage- Spain had to be taken out of the Western Hemisphere and that was a good enough reason to do it. Spain could have (but not likely) been a threat to the building of the Panama canal, so Spain had to go.

[@77thTrombone]

Viva United Fruit Co!

[@westerncowhand7814]

Floaty log.

[@scottmacdonald1877]

Can history support a powder loading drill in the middle of the night???

[@JJbm4233]

For those who can’t understand the UI it’s pinned post. I didn’t realize it still about four years ago.😂