Combat Mission Black Sea: Russian Combined Arms Assault

[@spicn00]

This scenario is not hypothetical anymore

[@milehighkush]

"It is important to note that the storyline for Black Sea was first developed in 2009 and production started in 2013. In early 2014 Russia invaded Ukraine, making our story much less hypothetical. As a direct result we slightly modified the story's timeline to minimize contradictions with real life events. However, we deliberately made no attempt to portray an ongoing, undecided conflict. This means Black Sea is not equipped to simulate the "frozen conflict" that has since evolved in eastern Ukraine." And in February 2022, again, Russia invaded Ukraine. ~Statement from the devs This become a historical game before it even released.

[@TheWizardGamez]

It’s incredibly inaccurate. The Russian military is way less effective than in game

[@jonshive5482]

@@TheWizardGamez It's not the developers' fault. Who could have imagined Russian forces would be so inept and poorly led?

[@HypervoxelRBX]

makes me want it now

[@jonshive5482]

@@TheGrimmChannel Heh-heh. Tell it to Wagner. Their techniques of suppression through fire, maneuver towards the enemy, , infiltration, and finally storming their positions is percolating through Russian combat units. Unfortunately for them the commander of those ill-fated assaults on Ugledar didn't get the message. In fact I heard he'd been promoted! Ah well, nobody's perfect...

[@TopHatHat]

Seems so weird I had no clue what combat mission was a couple of months ago, and now you are possibly my favorite channel and I wait on every high quality video. Keep up the excellent content and thank you for introducing me to the game!

[@user-vl8fb1gu6k]

I've been playing these games for years: you have many enjoyable hours ahead of you. Welcome to the club!

[@cheetengho7876]

black sea is out now on Steam!

[@dariusstan1357]

glad for your discovery. ! i remember first one that i've played...CM: beyond overlord....damn...this came a long long way.

[@kacperguzinski8491]

who would have tought that this scenario will be real back then....

[@user_____M]

It's still not real, the Russians failed to even come close to Kharkov from the direction shown in the game, lol.

[@spearPYN]

This is a scenario unfolding live...in real life.

[@c.j.3404]

And aparintly the Russians do not in fact know how to fight with combined arms lol.

[@Someone-lr6gu]

@@c.j.3404 Dunno bro, Mariupol and eastern Ukraine seems like good proof of the opposite.

[@c.j.3404]

@@Someone-lr6gu yep, a multi mounth sige were the Russian lost thousands of soldiers, got completely boged down in a strategically unless position and still haven't managed to full secer the city because the army still hasn't figured out how to move infrantry, tanks and artliarly at the same time and despritly needs troops at actually important points. Truly the sine of competence here. Seriously russia is struggling to coordinate artliarly and infrantry attacks in the domas right now, something the rest of the world figured out back in 1918, and russia is only at that point because it completely failed at coordinating infrantry and tanks for the first months of this war (something there still trying to figure out btw).

[@Someone-lr6gu]

​@@c.j.3404 > were the Russian lost thousands of soldiers According to who exactly, lol. Ukraine never stated how many troops Russia lost in Mariupol, and even if they did - that wouldn't mean shit because it's Ukraine reporting someone else's losses. > got completely boged down in a strategically unless position and still haven't managed to full secer the city The city is taken for more than a week now with Azovstal being the last stronghold held by Azov battalion with civilians inside pretty much held hostage. > because the army still hasn't figured out how to move infrantry, tanks and artliarly at the same time and despritly needs troops at actually important points. Truly the sine of competence here. I have zero idea where you are taking this from. If you look at any video, almost every time there's a firefight you have soldiers and a supporting tank/BTR engaging the target, as well as artillery, air force and navy conducting regular strikes on targets to support the ground troops. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hny5oXmum9hjnZY > Seriously russia is struggling to coordinate artliarly and infrantry attacks in the domas right now, something the rest of the world figured out back in 1918, and russia is only at that point because it completely failed at coordinating infrantry and tanks for the first months of this war (something there still trying to figure out btw). Again, you are clearly pulling this out of your ass, because there is literally no evidence in support of your words and you did not provide a single example as to how that would be the case, lol.

[@ISD_Nemesis]

@@c.j.3404 yeeeaaa I would as the opposite for the Ukrainian forces instead

[@sheeplord4976]

It seems like the heavy firepower of the BMP-3 was a real lifesaver here. In effect, every vehicle can act as a heavy mortar.

[@javierperalta7648]

'fictional escalation between Ukraine and Russia'. Nothing fictional about that

[@yesyes-om1po]

game started development in 2009 lol

[@SirPatrickofPoland]

Great video, I'd love to see a full campaign playthrough if you can make one.

[@bobtank6318]

He did one on the American campaign when it came out on the BF website. Search the Task Force 3-69 playlist on his channel.

[@darkivn]

The names of the two ground objectives are references to the early space race programs - (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_programme and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_programme ). As such, the first one is pronounced with a soft 's' and the 'k' is more or less silent - "vos-hod", not "wok-shod" :P ... "vos" should rhyme with "loss" and "hod" sounds like "hog" with a hard "d" at the end instead of the hard "g". (learned this because of a fantastic brand of razer blades of the same name ;))

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Well that makes sense. Not going to pretend I'm ever going to master Russian pronunciation though.

[@bwcmakro]

It also just means "Dawn" and "East".

[@MDSR17455]

@@usuallyhapless9481 Hey can you make videos with the T 90Ms

[@cheetengho7876]

Great video! Black Sea was my first combat mission and wargame. It's still my favourite. Great tactical command over your troops and casualties.

[@Prederick]

Between Shock Force and now Black Sea, the dudes at Battlefront really have some cursed game ideas.

[@OperatorMax1993]

Quite interesting to have two households (Combat Mission and Graviteam Tactics) I wonder what else do they have in mind (Israeli module for Shock Force ? Korean War ? Arab-Israeli war ? Sino-Japanese war ?)

[@purpheart23]

I see Hapless video, I like a Hapless video.

[@WysteriaGuitar]

Awesome video I feel like you are reporting on this operation...very detailed...

[@rhysrphoto]

Great vid. Also alerted me to the fact that Black Sea is on Steam! I'll be purchasing today.

[@lonl123]

Fantastic video, your narration and knowledge base are really top notch....It's easy to monday morning quarterback, but while watching I was seriously thinking you were taking too long and being a bit too cautious in the beginning...which forced you to rush things toward the end. If you could have gotten some more of your infantry moving on the left, and kept pressing forward after the drone recce, I think you might have been able to win the objective. Regardless, awesome video and you have a new subscriber.

[@lonl123]

And, due to your video, I just purchaed the game!

[@whya2ndaccount]

Unfortunately, one of the enduring issues of Cbt Mission titles set in the modern era, is map size. Tanks tend to "zero" at between 1,500 and 2,000m so 1,200m is a "snap shot" (a bit like firing a hunting rifle at something under 100m away). "Big maps" in Cbt Mission are basically small sandboxes in the modern era.

[@michaeldean6635]

try the master Maps on a few good men THEY ARE GIAGANTIc my freind and i do crazy multiplayer games that literally take 30 hours with house rules for reserves and scouts

[@whya2ndaccount]

@@michaeldean6635 Do you have actual dimensions (as opposed to "gigantic")? E.g I'm comfortable with another product using mapping from 20km x 20km up to 80km x 80km. This allows for actual manoeuvre.

[@OKOK-hm2is]

@@whya2ndaccount Combat Mission is company to battalion level sim. Front of battalion assault is about 1-2 km. So combat mission maps are quite sufficient for those purposes.

[@whya2ndaccount]

@@OKOK-hm2is Except they provide pretty much zero manoeuvre space. You need the Freedom of Action to apply that frontage where you want, not have all your planning options marginalised because you are fighting on a postage stamp - unless you just want to do the Somme with weapons updated to 20XX.

[@OKOK-hm2is]

@@whya2ndaccount There is no way a company will freely roam on 40х40 grid just looking for better angles to engage with other company. That is also there alone. Just never gonna happen. You will maneuver, of course, but always as a part of larger force, in a route determined by your superiors. And you will fight on frontage, that was given to you, not chosen by you. And that is what this game is about - small units firefight tactics. Not strategic army maneuvers.

[@kondor99999]

Excellent video. You’re certainly more careful and methodical than Russian doctrine demands! They’re willing to accept casualties to maintain their “violence of action” (loosely translated). Your approach is very British indeed. I’d rather serve under you, that’s for sure. I might even make it home.

[@c.j.3404]

See also the complete hash of things the actual Russians are making there invasion right now.

[@Br1cht]

The UK havn´t fought a equal force in 50 years though, looking at how politicized the armed forces of the West have become and that their training seems to be mostly targeted vs their own population in the war games(to "keep order") I´d rather not serve in a Western force, and I am a westerner.

[@KaiserAvG]

Complete shit, Russian tactics are not based on neglect of personnel, that's why the "Special Military Operation" has been going on for so long, because the command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation protects the lives of Russian soldiers (I will keep silent about the Wagner PMCs, these are not the armed Forces of the Russian Federation) - proof of my words, look at the blockade of Azovstal, where it was possible to eliminate a whole regiment of "Azov", without suffering losses. Make a conclusion yourself.

[@DirtyCivilian14]

Great video mate. Black Sea offers a nice change to CMSF2

[@CHAPPER-]

this didnt age so well.

[@OperatorMax1993]

It is said that the game was conceptualised since 2009 (same gear Arma 2 released which alot of people thought it predicted the Ukraine war even though it was more based on the war with Georgia)

[@man_vs_life]

"...hypothetical Russian invasion of Ukraine." Hmmm.

[@majormuckup373]

Another great informative vid Hapless

[@MDSR17455]

Just imagine playing all the Combat Mission franchise games with good graphics it would be awesome

[@ChongiFishing]

I think the current graphics are fine, all I want is better fps and lower prices. They have a monopoly on being the most realistic rts war game developer

[@Ickie71]

Subbed and Black belled :) CM BS is also now in my steam baskett!

[@gojira2055]

You don't get enough credit for these videos. Thank for your content

[@markraffety3246]

Very nice video. Thanks for putting it up

[@JimLederer]

Excellent explanations of your analysis and actions in this mission.

[@thesilencec2915]

I love this game, I am playing it daily, I no expert by no means, but I love watching your videos when you play CMSF or CMBS, I'm not that crazy about the second world war games.

[@pauldangel734]

Good video! Very enjoyable. Thanks.

[@LeDeux11]

Now historical video.

[@MagnusDivision]

Thanks for the video. I agree this is a great mission for new players and punishes you for being too aggressive or two reserved.

[@leb41717]

Any chance you are going to do one of the new campaigns released in the new Battlepack? The Campaign with the 2nd Cavalry Stryker Regiment seems the most interesting, considering how brittle the force seems. Looking forward to any new videos!

[@InvictusProductionsX]

How do you get your game to run so smoothly with good resolution? I'm new to Combat Mission and Black Sea is my first title. I love the game even if I'm complete trash, and would really love to have a smoother experience.

[@dadoogie]

I've already paid enough for Shockforce 2 and BfN. My wallet can only take so much, stop it please!

[@absolutmauser]

Gotta start saving up for Battle for Normandy, Fortress Italy, Red Thunder, and Final Blitzkrieg 😅

[@ktall6749]

Fortunately Steam and Slitherine have sales. I picked up Black Sea on the Easter sale. I will add new titles as sales are available.

[@kingsleyzissou5881]

I'm curious - does the game actually simulated damage to optics on the T-64 from the 120mm mortar hit on the roof?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yep

[@davestory6123]

Fast forward 12 months ......................................

[@Joeyboots80]

Very well done video. You have a new subscriber. :)

[@nicologiani3426]

"Hypotetical"...didn't age well

[@Dynamo11115]

“Hypothetical Russian invasion of ukraine” kinda funny now

[@BrouwerVids]

im happy to see this also coming to steam but im really hoping that they will add combat mission battle for normandy to the steam store next

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Normandy is next in line ;)

[@PitterPatter20]

Great video! I'd love to watch a playthrough of the Ukrainian campaign

[@biassicalabria3055]

Can all the modern combat mission games be combined to play all the maps and conditions together or no

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Sadly not

[@runswithbears3517]

6:38 RIP that guy

[@Mr.McMuffin]

Not too hypothetical anymore m8

[@TheWizardGamez]

wild world where a hypothetical operation in a game makes more sense than actual Russian strategy

[@hmabboud]

How do you know the weapon's range (IE:M16) for each unit?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Wikipedia ;) Though honestly, small arms almost all fall within the 500m max/ 300m effective bracket and heavier weapons have the ranges marked on their unit cards when you select them.

[@hmabboud]

@@usuallyhapless9481 Thank you, sir!

[@Themaritimes99]

Great content!

[@nbr1rckr]

Hell yeah

[@mutantos6778]

How did you combine all the battle in one replay so you could review it?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

You've got to play WeGo, then save every turn. It takes a while.

[@mutantos6778]

@@usuallyhapless9481 Thanks :)

[@ShadowDragon1848]

Not so hypothetical anymore...

[@originalpastaman5470]

Do you play real time or turn based?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Turn Based. It's just impossible to process everything in realtime in enough detail. It's also al lot easier to make videos when you've saved a replay of each turn.

[@konebrieber2390]

i love CM but even after 100+ hrs I still suck at this game

[@stardekk1461]

Does the steam version have any downsides ?

[@nomennisceo6495]

It's the same game, The closest thing to a downside is that it is tied to steam with all that intails, but that is likely a positive for most people

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yep. It's functionally exactly the same. Saves, mods, it's all compatible.

[@David-wp2iw]

is there no artilery systems? why would a whole russian brigade standing there in the corner for almost 15 minutes.

[@jussi8111]

the ones sitting in the corner were ukrainina AI and most artillery is offmap call ins

[@gepflegtePCSpieleKultur]

Russian Generals saw ;-) your gameplay here and concluded that the mighty motherland will be unstoppable & victorious... Cheers.

[@jcamo10zuekamo]

your game seems prettier than mine. is it a mod?

[@timothysmith7364]

a great video!

[@t3685]

Is it not possible to call in precision missions using the UAV?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yes... with some precision ammo and some UAVs. In this mission, the ammo is laser guided and the UAV doesn't have a laser designator, so you can't do it. US precision arty is GPS guided, so you don't need a drone with a laser.

[@t3685]

@@usuallyhapless9481 Thanks, I was guessing there must be a good reason, otherwise you would not have gone through the trouble of moving your FO team :)

[@boylikenik6167]

Hi! Something odd with my game is happening. It’s like the colors increased brightness and gamma, have any idea how to fix this? It’s only happening on this game

[@kite2036]

6:09 Proof that God is a Russian and guides everyone's artillery

[@raymondyee2008]

Such a hard game to play.

[@LongTran-em6hc]

Russian Generals agree with you.

[@user-ck7zh7qz5x]

Это легко!😊

[@jtscool123]

how do you lock the camera to a unit?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Just select it and press tab.

[@brandonwright1791]

I've bought all the CM's and I love them but my last and final purchase was of Fortress Italy which cost a small fortune and unfortunately seems to have disappeared into my PC somewhere. I'm no IT geek so have no clue how to retrieve it, it took many hours to download (Dunno why) and had to be restarted multiple times for 'network error'. Any help would be extremely well appreciated.

[@d.c.6065]

Comment for The Algorithm

[@zer9761]

more professional than average russian commander

[@setoki2838]

Average russian commander sold all the specalized equipment and bought a nice house for himself...

[@danielspillett5393]

and T90s are all taken out by M1A2 and Challenger 2 and T90s rounds just bounce of the Chobham Dorchester amour and as we found in the golf BMPs taken out with ease

[@chrissbasement169]

Russian soldiers should have watched theese videos lol

[@verschlusssache6283]

This could be such a great game, if only it would be playable and wouldn't look like out of the 90s.

[@ChongiFishing]

When I first started playing, it was clunky and unbearable. But after playing it on and off for the past month, I don’t have any issues with the graphics. Simple graphics allow for much more complexity in gameplay, that’s why games like Rimworld are so beloved when it looks like if chess was a survival game. My only problem is with fps because that makes any game bad, no matter the graphics or gameplay

[@OperatorMax1993]

1990s : 2d pixels or low poly 3d models (see for example - Half Life 1, Rainbow Six, SWAT 3, Hidden and Dangerous 1, System Shock 1&2, Fallout 1&2, Command and Conquer '95-'99) Excuse me ?

[@verschlusssache6283]

@@OperatorMax1993 All of them run better than this

[@verschlusssache6283]

@@ChongiFishing Would be nice if the FPS could go above 15 though