Utah Likely Not Done Improving the Lineup with So Much Cap Space Available

[@minaguta4147]

FYI, Utah hasn't been cheap on the NBA front, at least since Ryan Smith bought the team. He's willing to pay the luxury tax if it means winning more.

[@Warninja1231]

Hell the main reason the Jazz have been cheap recently is actually to do a rebuild. They decided to cash in on Don's and Gobert's peak value, since the team was basically sputtering in the first rounds of the playoffs and making no progress no matter how they built around the duo.

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@stanschmenge1965 If you watched the video you would understand why OP made his comment.

[@TheScotian82]

Utah should be very thankful to Arizona for gifting them a team in really really good condition and primed to add what they need. Nothing but young talent and cap space. Fresh faces. Fresh place. Imagine being that GM right now. 🤩

[@neithermanc1]

Considering the GM is still Bill Armstrong the Utah Hockey Club is in a very fortunate position indeed. As a resident of Phoenix and Coyotes fan, it stings a bit.

[@2018josh]

@@TheScotian82 word, I’ve never seen BA that happy before. He’s like a pit bull that’s been let off his leash.

[@AlphaKing1776]

I agree, there are salty Yotes fans out there. I still wish they will get another shot at the NHL even tho some of these c*nts are asshole.

[@yoholmes273]

Honestly, has to be one of the very best GM spots in the entire league. Tons of raw young guns, lots of picks, & loads of cap space. Plus we all know the Utah fanbase will be rabid. Utah (once they pick a real name) will be a prime spot in the near future.

[@jcragun801]

As a new hockey fan from SLC, thank you so much! Love the content. Utah Jazz aren’t cheap, they’re willing to spend money, so hopefully Ryan Smith will do the same with UHC. He even spent the most money in club history for RSL in MLS which he owns.

[@vhsqueen]

Welcome to the nhl but just so you know, hes not in any special territory where he can just spend to his whim, the cap had been pretty stagnate for a few years and barely rose, most teams have been making tough decisions to keep their team under that cap and while you have space to sign players you will be in the same boat as every other team, who to keep and who to let go and who to resign and be just under or at the cap allocated. We all spend to the limit and then have players that want a raise when their contracts are due and have to decide who to let go to pay them or who to get when we let them walk because we cant afford it.

[@jklein0079]

Watch Utah pull an Avalanche and win a Stanley Cup the first year after moving

[@rubberduckie5518]

Not a chance

[@SverigeiSverige]

Ta den om Rödluvan åxå. 🙄

[@georgemcelroy3058]

You should bet the farm on that one! If you win, you'll be as rich as Bill Gates!

[@theycallmeeazy]

As a Utahan, I am so grateful for these videos! Bless our local sports guys, but they are still learning the game. And we're definitely making the playoffs. The Yotes could have made them last year with a lesser roster and a ton of distraction.

[@winkletown8828]

Are they advertising the hockey team in Utah? They failed at it in AZ

[@dsarmy1]

@@winkletown8828It’s been all over the news that Utah was getting and now has an NHL team. Every TV and radio station and on Social media. I am also seeing advertisements for the new generic gear on Facebook and Instagram.

[@kgroves17]

@@winkletown8828yes, they certainly are

[@AlphaKing1776]

@@winkletown8828yes they are. Pretty impressed how non hockey fans are jumping in supporting this team

[@yoholmes273]

​@@AlphaKing1776Jump on it. Hockey is the best game you can name. 🏒

[@SethFinberg]

Arizona / Utah was starting to build a nice core of youngsters in the organization. I could see them close to a playoff spot if things break right.

[@BodyofWater_]

Been saying this for the last two season. The Yotes were taking on everyone’s contracts on purpose to get to league minimum. Built up a ton of cap space, draft capital, and picked up a ton of young talent specially as of forwards. It was set so almost all of the contracts would expire this year and they’d still have their young talent and would only have to now get a good defensive core built and a star veteran paid with all the cap they have left over. Recipe to make it to the playoffs and go on a run. As a Yotes fan I’ll be rooting for all the Yotes players I’ve been rooting for for years now, hope to see Utah utilize what the Yotes were doing and it looks like they are. Mark my words they will be a contender if not this year, then next. Cooley, Guenther, Kesselring, Keller, etc. all looked fantastic last season. Gunna be a great team going forward

[@doubledouble4g379]

Central is wide-open IMO: Wild, Blues and Nashville could rebound and make it and Dallas, Col and Winnipeg all have noticeable flaws - only lock to miss the playoffs is Chicago. As for the Pacific, I'd say the only sure bets are the Oil and Vegas. The Utah Yotes could very easily surprise everyone...

[@stanschmenge1965]

I always thought it was because the owner was so cheap. Taking on contacts that had been mostly paid out but had a high AAV to get the team to the salary cap floor. Looks like it’s going to work in Utah’s favour though.

[@GizmoBeach]

@@stanschmenge1965 My money’s on “owner didn’t have a clue, and was just waiting for someone to take this mess off his hands when he realized what a mess the Coyotes were” and he pretended otherwise when it happened, hey man they wouldn’t let me buy the land I wanted, it’s their fault and not mine that I’m incompetent like pretty much everyone who owned this dingbat desert franchise before me.

[@BodyofWater_]

@@stanschmenge1965 I have been watching very closely for the last few years and exactly what Utah is doing is what I was expecting the Yotes to do this season. Kinda pissed they are about to finally be good again right after leaving AZ lol. I played hockey in Colorado and Arizona so I'm an Avs and Yotes fan. At least one of my teams has been relevant and still exists lol. The owner of the Yotes really sucked but whatever the managers and staff were doing was very apparent by the moves they were making over the last couple years. Not something most would know if they didn't read every detail possible about the Yotes like I was lol

[@stanschmenge1965]

@@BodyofWater_ yeah it looks like it’s going to work out well. Anaheim fans are kinda choked that Verbeek isn’t signing anyone, but he’s going to be the main bank for teams over the cap, the same way Arizona was. That’s how your Avs picked up Devon Toews a few years ago I believe, from cap strapped Isles.

[@winkletown8828]

As an Arizonan, I have hurt feelers about this, but I can also say, had they advertised the hockey team 1/64th as much as the football or baseball teams, they would have had butts in the seats. I meet people on the regular who've lived here their whole lives that didn't know AZ had a hockey team. Pretty sad if ya ask me. You're welcome Utah. Don't ruin the team.

[@andrewgreen815]

I too lost my team, Jets 1.0. We all know where they ended up. You got to have hope you, can bring a team back one day.

[@mr.brenman2132]

How does someone in Arizona not know that they have a Hockey team? They aren't talked about on the news?

[@IHateMyAccountName]

When the Cardinals and Diamondbacks haven't exactly set the world on fire.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

@@mr.brenman2132it’s because the Coyotes have never had good owners. When I moved to Tucson and became a Coyotes fan there was a severe lack of exposure, gear, and merchandise in the state. It was easier for me to get a Crosby jersey than it was for a Yandle, or OEL. Some sports stores didn’t even have a Coyotes hat. The owners never pushed the way they needed to to get the Coyotes Brand to the populous.

[@JAB585]

This team could be really interesting come October!

[@thezumazuma]

Speaking of The Utah Jazz they we're over the NBA salary cap a few years ago look for the Hockey Club to spend $$$ soon is my guess

[@geoffjohnson6555]

Let’s Gooo!!! We are so pumped here in UT. Ready to go all in for the Yeti. Gonna be a blast to watch the first few seasons as we get going

[@Dibzio]

The roster they inherited and the moves done this offseason make a good argument for an actual decent season ending in a wildcard spot. Maybe things will gel together well for them in their first year away from all that Meruelo business and they get a confidence boost. If not, they shouldn’t be too far at all from playoff contention. But I think they have a good shot at improving their totals drastically.

[@Besecker36]

As a coyote/Utah fan great video. Always respect your coverage

[@danjensen7919]

The Utah Hockey Club will make the playoffs!

[@maxwellshields6277]

Yeah, Utah becomes a playoff team this upcoming season. Try his is a situation similar to Vegas in its first season. A decent starting lineup that was already improving every season. Add to that the huge cap space and tons of draft picks they’ve accumulated, I think Utah will probably win in the first round of the playoffs. The situation reminds me of when the Nordques changed to the Avalanche and moved to Denver. An absolutely outrageous situation to the state they left, and Utah fans get all the fun!

[@Kachina.]

Utah will be good but not a playoff team as of now. Nashville stacked up hardcore and St.Louis should be good, on top of Dallas and Colorado still being juggernauts. I think they make it in 2026 though.

[@rubberduckie5518]

Unless one of LA, Winnipeg or Vancouver dropout, Utah isn’t getting in.

[@Kolari85]

Love this. Thanks for the Utah coverage!

[@ProgNationYT]

well they gonna need to trade for future first overall pick jarrod vesce!

[@davebank3218]

I'd be knocking on NSH doors and check in on Askarov availability

[@chumpmtb2554]

I've been saying (and still think) since day 1, this team is going to explode right out of the gate. They were a playoff team last year, until the 14 game skid, which the players, and coaches all admitted they couldn't get the relocation fears out of the room. It perfectly coincided with the 1st Utah rumor, and tanked the season. What they did last year with the D core they had was insane, and with the additions they've made, prospects coming up, an arena to play in, a ravenous new fan base, and most importantly, the relocation monkey off these player backs, I think they will shock the west this year right away. I didn't even mention coaching staff, from Tourigny all the way to the goalie coaches, are the most underrated coaching staff in the biz.

[@KevinWindsor1971]

Well, Tarasenko is a Red Wing.

[@SethFinberg]

I was hoping my Cats could keep him. He was seeing significant power play time in the playoffs.

[@GodWeenSatan]

The st.louis Red Wings

[@aepochbrett]

Oh man this is a relief! Solidifies our top 6!

[@JHockeyFan]

@@GodWeenSatanDetroit Rangers

[@RealPolo8]

LFG!!! Checked dailyfaceoff and seen it first 5 minutes.

[@JD200_]

I just hope Keller gets the C for the Shoresy memes

[@elosogonzalez8739]

Living in Glendale, Arizona I hate to see the team move, but it had to be done! Bill Armstrong has done an incredible job of building the team with draft picks and very little money. In Arizona Meruelo was selling talent to shed money to stick more in his pockets. Up side to that is the team has a ton of cap space and lots of future draft picks. THIS IS A PLAYOFF TEAM! Since hockey won't be returning anytime soon, we'll be following the _________ here in Arizona! Fans in Utah please love these guys like we did in Arizona; They deserve it!

[@AlphaKing1776]

Well said. I can get 💯 behind fans like you that cared about this team and want the best for them. For the record I am glad Meruelo is gone and now hopefully you guys get an owner that really wants to bring a successful NHL team in. We truly wanted an expansion team not to steal a team if that’s what fans think we did.

[@TheSnakeskill0012]

@@elosogonzalez8739 I grew up in Arizona and loved the coyotes but I have spent most my life in Utah. This is so cool cause I was a coyote fan. And not my state has a team. Sorry tho. Hope they just get way more fans and prosper.

[@martin9202]

It’s very important for Utah to be competitive and at least fight for PO until the end… they need to make good impression and attract people… they got very young team with lots of potential. Central will be tough, very tough, though… Colorado/Dalas aiming for SC, Nashville getting some fire-power, and Winnipeg has to stay competitive for their own good… can see Blues, Wild struggling and Chicago still rebuilding…

[@shaunchappell784]

I'll start the rumour now. Ekblad to Utah....book it.

[@nickmadej869]

Patrik laine could be a sneaky trade for the Utah hockey guys

[@ryanw2544]

I'm excited for Utah. Have never really been a Jazz fan but the hockey team I'm excited for.

[@meddyven]

Shannon, looking at their moves so far, I would say Utah will be hanging around the last wild card spot. They should go sign Anti Raanta, as a backup in goal, for one year. He would be a capable veteran, and mentor. He could help catapult them upwards in the stsndings.

[@TylerEL]

Good vid, Arizona was probably the very bottom of the NHL of teams i paid attention to, so i found this interesting. Will definitely be watching Utah games and keeping an eye on them now.

[@michaelrudd1927]

If Trouba would accept the trade him in Utah would be a nice fit 🤷‍♂️

[@LucicPower]

He's not a fit anywhere

[@scobo4743]

Hawk Utah!

[@kosmicwizard]

49% of that state don't do that

[@drillsey2446]

Did u know they made hats and clothing 🤔 lmao about hawk tuah !

[@agent00puffball]

Now this is the meme we've needed

[@kgroves17]

Can’t wait to see what Utah does with the rest of their cap space. Go Yeti! 😉

[@TheBigChinoDon]

Sad Yotes fan .... awoooooo.

[@gtl81199]

Arizona and Atlanta

[@Kachina.]

I still think if Utah has any chance at making the playoffs this year they need to get at least 1B center, but they should be better than last year for sure, Makes me wonder if they were one of the teams calling about Kadri?

[@rubberduckie5518]

Ya makes me wonder if they were in on the Lindholm or Stamkos sweepstakes

[@bclaas]

From a design point of view I really hope Utah doesn't mess up their branding. I'm really gonna miss the Coyotes brand, strip, logo, colours - everything. They really had a unique and distinctive look in the NHL. I also really feel sorry for the Arizona fanbase. You guys really had a pretty dynamic team formed that looked destined for big things, and to have that ripped away from you is a pretty raw deal.

[@vank3780]

Yzerman making moves. Tarasenko and dumped Fabri's contract.

[@Powderkegable]

I think u can still use original jets/coyotes/Utah as the same history, just phrasing it differently. Like the 'winnipeg/phoenix/utah alumni' or something. Or just not call it their franchise history and not abide to Alex.

[@jasonandros9395]

Kinda reminds me of how the Avs happened..and I’m a big fan of of theirs, although I did feel awful for Quebec. This could be pretty interesting.

[@tonykung8756]

Utah can now collect draft picks and prospects from teams for taking on bad contracts with 1-2yrs remaining. When you have cap space, you have excellent options…

[@goldpanner]

Those days are over, they're going to spend

[@tonykung8756]

@@goldpanner There’s no good players left to spend money on. Might as well maximize draft picks.

[@billdapp2491]

So I'll be curious to see how Utah does, as a Flames and Habs fan, I'm quietly rooting for them. Shannon, can you do a topic on how Conroy will/might deal with the Flames tons of cap space?

[@brianyoung3]

Technically, they may call Utah an expansion club but there is a team history and a slow build, if that's what some GM's prefer isn't really necessary. Arizona was in a holding pattern, waiting for a new stadium and they are certainly ready to improve the club in a hurry if they want to. There are plenty of teams that could use some cap help that could be taken advantage of. It will be fascinating to see how the next few years unfold in Utah.

[@markroberts9577]

I believe with this team having escaped the previous owner that this organization will really really be very very competitive in season 1. I'm looking that they will finish with 96 points

[@serfindukdb1776]

Utah is gonna pull a Quebec to Colorado back in 1995. just wait for them to acquire that super-star goalie ala Patrick Roy to Colorado that happened back then

[@mtgbrewery7239]

Except Quebec had a great team when they moved, like an amazing roster

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

If i was Utah i would try to get a another Top6 Forward and maybe another Top6 Defenseman.

[@Colbyw74]

Ive seen so many people shitting on utahs roster and idk why, especially in the west i wouldn’t be befuddled to see whatever a hockey club is in the playoffs this season

[@michaelrudd1927]

How hard would it have been to just make that magnet the team logo vs just word diagonal on the jersey 🤦‍♂️.

[@BroncoKnight34]

Here we go Yeti, here we go!

[@ilyak.6953]

With that cap space they should add Marner

[@GoodMenstruationAttitude]

I feel like they're going to need more help up front. But with their cap space they should figure it out

[@stevenembree7669]

They are not a new team, they are a transfer team. It is not surprising that they can build on something

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

Prime OEL was better than Sergachev.

[@philtorrez4198]

His wrister was something else

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

@@philtorrez4198 And his skating. Sergachev can skate too, but man, could OEL skate with the puck!

[@JD200_]

Could this be the Nordiques to Colorado 2.0?

[@andytuck]

playing or using EA NHL 24 games on Franchise Mode would help analyze things like this in simulation. i know i use your videos to help me out when i play the video game. haha

[@m4l_vinny300]

I would stay put. Lots of kids in the system and there should be no rush to end the rebuild.

[@jasonkashefi8241]

Utah and the Avs are just screaming rivalry. The players seem to always get into intense fights and the locations too. I think the fact that they’ve made so many strong moves this off season seeing them get so much better and col still seemingly staying the same mixed with central that’s so much better looks scary for colorado fans

[@DanielMeadusNL]

They should sign Oliver Kylington

[@lucasfullmer7472]

Hey Shannon, When Do You Think Tij Will Play His First NHL Game. Will It Be This Season?

[@mtgbrewery7239]

No

[@lucasfullmer7472]

@@mtgbrewery7239 How long do you think it will take?

[@Nicovertime]

You're saving me a ton of money in therapy 😊

[@GizmoBeach]

More concerned why they’re done with their look for now. Never heard of a major league franchise purposely giving up and waiting a whole season to come up with something respectable, save for Dan “Terrible Owner 101” Snyder’s Football Team. 🙄

[@luisr945]

Like this comment if you are now a utah fan

[@jamesirwin2048]

I know it’s a ton of work, but will you be doing an AHL update on rosters??

[@TheHockeyGuy]

We have no idea who will actually be on AHL rosters until late September.

[@asmrfan6543]

You know what be a good mascot for SLC? A dog that has very salty talks with visiting fans. Salty Dog. Someone with Sean Avery skills would be perfect!

[@drillsey2446]

The central can be interesting like usual like every year. The utah hockey club could surprise. I got the stars finishing 1st Nashville 2nd Colorado 3rd in the Central

[@kieranperreaultdit-morin9262]

“And your 2025 Stanley cup champions are the Utah -s.”

[@danielsharo]

I'm pretty sure Arizona is deactive now after Mereulo gave up.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Officially, they're still inactive. The NHL will find a new owner once the dust settles.

[@CaleMakar-yr9ol]

Nichushkin from Colorado sounds good

[@jfayiii]

Might happen. Avs should be done with him.

[@CaleMakar-yr9ol]

@@jfayiii Avs don’t have cap so someone is going to

[@brandnew70x7]

Yzerman yoinked Tarasenko :D

[@patch8376]

The taking away of the history is somehow the weirdest thing out of a number of already-weird things about this.

[@thetank5642]

Bjugstad and Crouse aren’t playing over Maccelli and Cooley lol. The young guys are going to play in the top 6

[@chiefbingo2311]

Shannon how bout future consideration...where a team does that...and we see teams trade bad contracts ...idk wats part of future consideration policy...but instead of giving up alot to get rid of bad contracts ...how bout teams use the future consideration ...i dont know why i thought of it and i dont commenr much but ya interesting topic for me lol

[@jussjack]

Smith is willing to spend money, I don't know about the Jazz as much but I heard he's put in a solid investment but Real Salt Lake on the other hand he's done amazingly with how the team spends money by leading the western conference with the 4th lowest payroll in the MLS, I don't think the Jazz or RSL have the ability to spend as much money due to the league restrictions but I think NHL wise they can really go all out, so that's what I'm hoping to happen

[@rubberduckie5518]

They should remain cautious and only add when it makes sense, not just because they have cap space.

[@batman2239]

If you have the right players, Utah will pay. The real reason they are on the cheap is because they have been in a position where they are constantly developing their players

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I actually think that Utah HC is more likely to make the playoffs next year than the Jazz are.

[@mtgbrewery7239]

Shannon, feel free to use the yotes history in your videos as long as it's not referring to team records, i think it's fine

[@dr3putt62]

DING! Another thousand - THG @ 323k ! 🎉🎉

[@husker126]

I pronounced decals like Shannon at work, I got made fun of.

[@Ducktales_00]

As I said ones Utah got the super deluxe ultra edition foundation to build on as eh hø "expansion team"

[@brientaylorcohen]

This franchise has now had *two* defensemen elected to the hockey hall of Fame while still on their books. Yikes.

[@zjsz4954]

It’s Teej, no?

[@bradleyreschny]

Anyone else think Mario Ferraro of the San Joes Sharks is very underrated?

[@jonah.donohue]

I’m NOT CONVINCED

[@glennelliott708]

Of course Utah will win a cup before Vancouver

[@LucicPower]

Marner

[@mrfake675]

Take Nurse with 2.5 mill retention

[@BigBlueHorses]

Ryan Smith knows he has to spend to put a competitive product on the floor for 5 years or so. He doesn’t have to do that with the Jazz. It’s a more established Utah franchise. Many long time Jazz fans are going to be watching and if Ryan Smith plays it wrong he could be facing an empty arena for both.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I really wish the Jazz would just choose if they're trying to win or tank and do one or the other. They seem to be doing something inbetween, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They accidentally ended up with some pretty good players, so they end up not winning enough games to make the playoffs and also not losing enough to get a high draft pick. I was especially annoyed two years ago, when the Jazz probably would've ended up in 6th or 7th place, but traded Mike Conley away and lost a ton of games in the second half of the year.

[@ACorpseWithoutSoul]

Maccelli is 1st line player.

[@2018josh]

Nooooooo.

[@ryanjulian4148]

I think their not done, maybe finding out what kind of identity they have and go from there. Maybe a veteran be good, I see them hitting the the mid 80s and with a pretty stack west. Who knows, you may see two wildcard teams out the west and low 90s might get you in. If they were to target a player like Necas they got more than enough attractive pieces to do so

[@realgundamsonly]

Marner trade coming?

[@zakdavis5638]

I'll trade them Chiarot and a 4th round pick for a 3rd round pick next year...

[@RobbyThomas18]

I dont think ur getting a pick back unless its a 7th for that cap hit

[@zakdavis5638]

@@RobbyThomas18 Utah needs dmen, and they have like 47 picks over the next 3 years

[@jonmendelson1104]

Weber should retire after this season to completely screw over Nashville. It would only be 1M in lost salary but Nashville would lose out on 7.86M in cap space for three seasons and 1M in the fourth...had the league not tweaked the rules it'd have been ~24.58M in lost cap space all in that final season of his deal.

[@KevinWindsor1971]

What does Weber have to do with Nashville? He's completely Utah property.

[@jonmendelson1104]

​@@KevinWindsor1971 When he was with Nashville his cap hit was the same 7.86M but he earned 14M in actual salary/bonuses during that time. If a player retires before their contract ends and there's a big discrepancy between what he gets the last few years and his cap hit then any team who had him has a cap recapture penalty. During his time with Nashville they benefitted by 24.56M in cap, so if he retires before his contract ends they owe that much cap as a penalty. Montreal would owe about 840k in penalty as well since he made 48M over 6 years there and his combined cap hit was only 47.16M.

[@kosmicwizard]

Yes

[@maxrates]

They have like no centers

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Cooley is going to be a number one center. Bjugstad is underrated. Hayton has produced well with top minutes. That's pretty good for a team without centers.

[@maxrates]

@@TheHockeyGuy Not good enough if they want to get to the playoffs.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

You said they had no centers. They do have centers and will improve over their 77 point run in Arizona last season. With the cap space they still have, they likely aren't done adding to their talent pool.

[@maxrates]

@@TheHockeyGuy I still think it's an issue. The centers they have aren't 1st or 2nd line players on many other contending teams.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Cooley is an excellent talent who will be a number one center soon enough, maybe this year, and Hayton centered a very productive line with Schmaltz and Keller before struggling with injuries last season. Cooley is a legit NHL star in the making, watched him live in Vancouver towards the end of the season and saw how talented and fast he is out there.

[@clydeblair9622]

Sergachev's done.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

? He's 26

[@clydeblair9622]

@@LockeDemosthenes2 Injuries...

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@@clydeblair9622 he was able to recover enough to play in the last two games of the playoffs, he's fine.

[@masterflex2349]

This team ain’t bad at all

[@wilseph1]

Mitch Marner says HELLO.

[@brandonpuckrin7514]

Perfect, now what are the Utah enter name here, going to offer Toronto? Apparently Keller is off the table.

[@wilseph1]

@@brandonpuckrin7514 The Leaves could use draft picks.

[@kmt78901]

@@brandonpuckrin7514 Marner has a full no-move so he would need to want to go there, and if he does the return would look like what the Blackhawks got for Kane when he went to the Rangers. Aka you say Keller but Toronto would be lucky to be offered Kerfoot back lol.

[@brandonpuckrin7514]

@@kmt78901 yes I am full aware of Marner's full no move clause since July 1st 2023. If he did wave to say Utah, what would be a fair offer coming back to Toronto? Also Toronto can offer more like Liljegren, and Kempf

[@kmt78901]

@@brandonpuckrin7514 The issue with the question is that there won't be a "fair" offer, the best they'll get is like a very late 1st or a couple later picks. Toronto probably just ends up keeping him and either get a deal done or let him walk because I assume they value their chances at a cup with Marner to be worth more than 1 or 2 picks.

[@humblelad]

Tarasenko went to North Florida, also known as Michigan

[@francoisbouvier7861]

What a silly comparison. Thank you for realizing/ acknowledging the player numbers. Can we forget Arizona for let's say, forever. Losers with a poor Jr.B barn.

[@InsideVancouversports]

Yes they will make the playoffs

[@gambiit08]

YETI