Destroying Grandmasters By Building Literally Just Ravens

[@Ketroc]

Approved.

[@dekumutant]

The king returns

[@craigcombes]

Holy sht I just remembered... Ketroc.

[@alasjoy7849]

I miss your videos.

[@TheZoRLorD]

The Raven King himself!

[@michaelwicker9538]

Lowko is going to scream if he sees this... He's been unironically talking about how awesome ravens are in late game for as long as I've been following him.

[@kindlin]

Marc has done a few other Raven challenges, so I'm sure Lowko has seen those as well. This was a masterclass in Raven usage tho, at least in TvT.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

you could see the moment when he lost the will to fight, when he suddenly stopped bothering to lift his CCs. He wasnt ready to quit yet but thats when you could tell it had ended.

[@deepvoid2871]

yeah proly tilted too

[@andrewjones198]

This IS madness. The raven is so much weaker now, but cheaper I suppose. Thanks for continuing this challenge marc! I like that you've adapted your challenged to be perpetual!

[@hanuman9]

he makes it look easy

[@willnash7907]

Quoth the raven; "Should have rushed me dude..."

[@IgnatiusLaMothe]

quoth the uthermal: "nevermore"

[@Portrial]

Quoth the raven, should'vemore

[@RenRenification]

You missed the obvious, “Rush me more.”

[@shannonredding2685]

Nice

[@N0FoxGiven]

Now comes knocking, tapping at my main base door! Quoth the raven "Rush thee more!" Edit: god i wish I remembered the full quote. It's such a good poem despite the batshit author. Edgar be the real bard.

[@kingdedede6145]

Hello from Washington DC! Thank you for your incredible channel. Your videos bring me so much joy. Please keep making them! 😊 (Especially Planetary Rushes - those are hilarious)

[@uThermal]

Thank you so much! :D

[@piotrek7628]

I enjoy the most your analysis of the steps you have to take to win with this strategy. Like "I take bad trades, because those are the only trades I'm gonna get" and literally body blocking space on the map with buildings because there's nothing else to stand ground like boys or tanks. Being aware of the disadvantage and use it for your advantage it's some real aikido and craft.

[@KamikazeWombat]

Hope babymarine had fun too in this game, hilarious that you were able to make it work

[@Nymphibious]

Spoiler not spoiler: the game is feckin EPIC!

[@KCM25NJL]

As much of a nerf as the Raven got..... the chunk of change off producing them literally makes them the zergling of the sky :D

[@朕是神]

Imagine if 3 thors in javlin missile mode shows up out of nowhere and oneshots your entire army.

[@geuros]

The ravens would need to be very stacked

[@icy7472]

and 3 interference matrix's and 10 auto turrets kills all 3 thors lmao.

[@laycey]

Your imagination is pretty wild if you think Marc would mess up that badly to a few big slow highly visible units when he's constantly splitting and dodging ghosts. At that point, why not just imagine babymarine nuking all of Marc's Ravens at the same time? Or Marc accidentally quitting the game?

[@ChaseAnderson5k]

I could see it working in some scenarios, but I do think interference matrix is the biggest problem with a thor strat, and why it's a subpar strategy. I'm pretty sure he's also played against Thor before, I seem to recall seeing auto turrets kill thors

[@someguy1ification]

But... But... What about... Thors _and a pile of repair scvs_ Edit: might need more than 3 thors... But not that many more. ... Wait, do ravens still have seeker missiles? i don't remember (and am still at the beginning of the video, shame on me). It's been a very long time

[@lukeaberdene-wallwork-zy7wm]

This may be a stretch but if you faked a doom drop with medivacs enough times at some point a gm MIGHT primitively leave 😂

[@enjaded7222]

imagine putting thousands of hrs onto a game, doing research, getting good enough to be top 50 of a region, then you just get sat down by a meme strat. its like fighting games where if u aint at the LITERAL top, sometimes you just get reminded that you're still just another random

[@Squashylemon]

During wings of liberty mass ravens was actually a very viable build even in the higher tier games. I even saw it in a GM tournament.

[@123gavagai]

"the end of the terran saga" - kinda makes me wanna cry a bit :)

[@VictorF0326]

Poor BabyMarine, Reynor gonna be laughing at him for the rest of his life for losing to ravens now..

[@TheGreenLing]

The thing that's the most crazy about this, is it looks so seamless, as he plays. But in actuality its just a bunch of non-sense.

[@dajosh42069]

Watched your 2v2 with Goblin... Great work there, and great work here!!! GG indeed, Marc! Also... And I'm not SUPER familiar with the SC2 scene... But isn't "BabyMarine" Reynors younger brother?

[@uThermal]

Correct :)

[@petherpg2497]

Challenge idea: Contamination Focus on making mass Overseers to Contaminate your opponent. Supplement with other zerg units for defence and support for the Overseers. Utilize the fact Overseers are free of supply and you can have whole carpet of them. In the spirit of "contamination", consider spreading Creep in your opponent's base and potential expansion areas (eg using Overlords, Queen drops, proxy Hatch openings, etc) Contaminate sounds like a fun ability that have huge potential if done ad nauseam, but I've seen it being used perhaps only once or twice...

[@An_Average_Arsonist]

This has some: how to kill a geologist, vibes. A bat made of ravens would indeed be invisible to top terrans.

[@damnplaylist]

Mass vipers with abducts to static defense? Maybe up to diamond? I can’t imagine that working any higher 😂

[@andrewferguson6901]

I love things like this because it really shows how important macro and positioning and engagements are even if you build intentionally wacky compositions

[@Imdrekaiser]

Absolutely insane, always love these seemingly impossible games.

[@somedude1313]

hell yeah! i was sad you'd snubbed the raven in that vid this is dope you came back to it

[@vladoz9299]

Its like watching Stephano play swarm host... There was a dude with 50 APM doing this raven troll build on SCVRush channel

[@asterpw]

Really glad to see the Ravens! Thought you'd be able to do it so was sad when it wasn't in the previous video.

[@BrendonReimer]

I'd like to see you and mana do challanges where you each get some randomized rules that neither player know until the match starts.

[@maximk9964]

Absolutely insane game! I love the simultaneous raven attacks, so much action! It was really funny watching them tear the enemy infrastructure bit by bit

[@3colight]

You've finally done it but now is the ultimate challenge, the medivac.

[@NebsterTheNebby]

Greatest Cheese I've seen with ravens

[@st4rrydalegend]

uThermal you are awesome man you are the reason i got into starcraft love you man you are doing great :)

[@MonkeyMD3]

He knew at the beginning when he said "Bruh"

[@HibiscusOrchid]

I thought he bruh'ed at the fact that marc's reaper bomb jumped into hero's reaper as it also cliff jumped

[@MonkeyMD3]

@@HibiscusOrchid ahhhhh. I misunderstood then

[@STHSilqueira]

I've been watching uThermal's videos for years and only now I noticed hes THE uThermal lol

[@joeb787]

Thank you Marc, Ravens are my fav unit and the best unit in the whole game

[@luisflores6084]

he could force a draw by flying to a corner chilling with vikings

[@TheDuckHasArrived]

If he were to use widow mines, you would be in trouble.

[@Salammaleicu]

winning against a guy like babymarine with only ravens... it's really impressive. maybe u should go pro xDDD

[@discursion]

For the longest time, I genuinely thought the name of this game was Starcraft II. Apparently it's called Having Way More Economy Than Your Opponent.

[@rankothefiremage]

note it's not a "flock" of ravens it's a "Murder" of ravens

[@Hephera]

i feel like the "magic box" technique would have been very helpful against those ghosts. like what Zerg players used to use to keep mutas alive against thor splash damage.

[@wikihoolima8988]

Love your videos, Marc!❤

[@Balipersonaltrainer]

guy looks like having the best day of his life

[@Bajoli86]

Every unit that can win monobattles is still somewhat ok right? I bet my bottom dollar that the best monobatle unit in the game is probably the marine. Is it possible to win a game with a push with bunkers and turrets?

[@jamescpalmer]

In English my friend, it's not a flock of ravens, it's an unkindess.

[@disieh]

In lower leagues the best response to mass raven seems to be mass thor. I do wonder whether that actually works on this level.

[@samvito3338]

Obv mark is the master but I was thinking maybe float some CCs out and start dropping them and making PFs out on the map or drop them near his bases.

[@GilgameshBro]

Actually you are one of (if not) the only gaming streamers who have real skill. Everyone else is just meming about stupid stuff. You sir have real skills when it comes to communication! Like Im sure you could have done whatever else and I would still like your content!!

[@Ramón_b23]

Amazing micro. Never forget you can use interference on the ghosts!

[@JustWatoo]

I seem to remember an opponent doing this to block one of Marc's nukes in the ghost challenge. Was an amazing play

[@balazsfenyes3880]

Imagine if ghost would have 60sec duration lockdown. Blizzard numbers before were a little absurd.

[@tk2070]

Good lord this is gunna be good 😂

[@tk2070]

I just finished watching it and it was a banger haha. He even knew it was you and made a anti-Marc army and still got Marc'ed 😂

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

""Yes, in StarCraft II, the Auto-Turrets deployed by the Raven do benefit from the Vehicle Weapons upgrades. These upgrades increase the damage output of the Auto-Turrets, making them more effective in combat"" - copilot?

[@EvlNinjadude]

Not according to Liquipedia and the fandom wiki it doesn't. It's missing the entries in the stat tables that would indicate that it receives a bonus from upgrade research (a number and an icon, respectively). Have you tried doing actual research over asking a chatbot?

[@NoobeyTunes]

Why didn't he make mass Vikings to counter the Ravens? They have way more range than autoturrets, right?

[@zoltanvonbozzay9678]

Was he playing a no thors and mines challenge? 😂 Gg

[@uThermal]

Neither of those are great ideas against Ravens :P Thors are a 6 supply interference matrix target and widow mines vs 77 detectors... well :P

[@zoltanvonbozzay9678]

@@uThermal well vs all ravens I might have just had thors and mines with the tanks and pushed into all your bases. Better vs planetary, and I don't think the auto turrets could keep up or placing it in front of them because they are outranged.

[@pirds102010]

send 6 ravens forward and use all interference matrixes and potential Mine friendly fire and the rest is easy ​@@zoltanvonbozzay9678

[@vincevalence]

should show units lost/killed tab at the end of these

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Banged it !

[@Kingcob7]

No, I can not beat grandmasters with any set of units actually. But thank you for asking.

[@carnero_mds]

That was funny. And terrifying

[@Quackz86]

question thermy , would anti armor missle work w/ Dropping the Auto turrets?

[@tomaszjanik7887]

If you play 2v2 on new patch with protos, can nexus ability recharge the raven energy?

[@drkza88]

master of the kites

[@auckwads8169]

Surely a few libs could deny almost all minerals parked outside turret range on the edges

[@Dawindell]

Good point, that would have been nigh impossible for Marc to counter since he can only make ravens...

[@52flyingbicycles]

77 Wings of Liberty ravens would have been the scariest thing imaginable. I’m glad UThermal keeps up their legacy

[@Volkaer]

Ravens turrets need to do same damage as swarm hosts' locusts imho. Or the other way round. Same thing.

[@ajm2872]

I have to wonder how many times the word "raven" was said in this video 😂

[@eagle2com]

Imagine BAR unit splits in SC2 O_O

[@uThermal]

I actually tried to line drag in sc2 the other day ::D

[@CamiloCBG]

@@uThermal 😅

[@TyLockton]

Should title this game The Flock.

[@LorasInSpace]

Dear Mr. U. Thermal, How do you feel about developing a Zerg one-or-two Queen build that (ab)uses Hatcheries to support unit growth and staging grounds with the possibility of mid-game spine/spore forests? Regards, Also A Gamer Psycopath.

[@Semirotta]

This game is proper ADHD game. Constant clicking every button pressing ping ponging from place to space.

[@Phi1618033]

That's so Raven!

[@sfire21xm]

You were in the zone there! I was worried too when the game was stabilizing and you weren't trading ravens for his eco and stopped spamming CCs, but all that experience in ravens to gm came through and you found the answer in 30s. wpwp

[@fate711]

Epic Game!!!!

[@yolth]

Someone needs to stop this absolute madman.

[@seanreitmeyer631]

I dont know a lot about sc2, but this strat seemed pretty dominant. How would a player like Maru counter it?

[@Tacts0317]

Mass vikings challenge! 😂

[@taith2]

Little known thing: Babymarine is younger brother of Reynor, really good player!

[@RMarkNolan]

Breathtaking!

[@Tofufiche]

"...our opponent has less then 5 command centers, maybe even like just 3 or 4." uThermal 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/imqvlox5nayBeK8

[@Idiomatick]

Lol. Buried the lede by not putting babymarine in the title.

[@liquidpropaganda]

The real question, what do protoss taste like?

[@vclyel]

I thought Interfernce matrix cannot target ghosts which is a bio unit. It can target mech only I think?

[@ChrisPinnell-h4p]

You can matrix ghosts because their psionic

[@firstblood400]

Another Thermy banger!

[@epicsensi]

Banger

[@ShaunYCheng]

Wow... great game!

[@geaskadosh]

Caw caw ... nevermore caw caw

[@johnnyk617]

Could your opponent transition to to thors early on to counter the ravens?

[@amancalledcraig]

Incredible!

[@afwaller]

Doesn’t hi sec auto tracking help raven turrets?

[@HibiscusOrchid]

Am I hallucinating or did the thumbnail changed and at one point said "I just wanted a normal game"?

[@CoolTI-Daniel]

Incredible

[@LostandFoundTravel]

Wowza.

[@todorparushev229]

Insane game

[@torelishes]

All thats left is SCV medivac

[@pkerlouis]

Great match

[@mariobauer73]

Ketrok style 😂❤

[@wolf2403]

At the very start, when you first saw the ghost academy, could you have destroyed it with turrets?

[@uThermal]

Ghost Academies are surprisingly REALLY tanky :P You can even put them in a wall against Zerg

[@krzysztofratajski9218]

Hmmmmmmmmm...... did Liberators (around 3 or 4 ) could be good against you?

[@Croche44]

Medivac drop scvs and count that for both?

[@PyskatyGnojek]

Why didn't he use vikings?

[@LyuboRyuk]

My guess - you can't. Let's see

[@LyuboRyuk]

😮