V-Cast - avoidable mistakes finally caught up to Michigan State in 23-19 loss to Boston College

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Күн бұрын

SpartanMag.com staffers Jim Comparoni and Paul Konyndyk check in from Chestnut Hill where Michigan State dropped a 23-19 heartbreaker. It was a winnable game for the Spartans, whose chances at winning were hindered by avoidable miscues.

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@waltermacelt2556
@waltermacelt2556 2 күн бұрын
Paul, thank you for calling a spade a spade and not sugar coating these mistakes
@davidschenk4097
@davidschenk4097 2 күн бұрын
Every time Chiles throws the ball, it's a hold your breath moment. His inaccuracy and decision-making are concerning even for his age.
@theprogressivemichigander6588
@theprogressivemichigander6588 2 күн бұрын
To me, the core of the story was how bad our O-line was and how solid our defense was. Given how overwhelmed the O-line looked, it was kind of amazing we could survive that many interceptions. Jonathan Kim also had a nice game kicking in the rain.
@nicbasirico8824
@nicbasirico8824 2 күн бұрын
don’t be scared to say stupid. Those mistakes were awful. I like this team a lot but damn we need to put it together
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
Yea it's not calling the players themselves stupid, it's the plays that are stupid due to poor decisions
@RupyReacher
@RupyReacher 2 күн бұрын
RB carter is hit or miss. Should have caught that TD pass. Stone hands.
@rsimmons1980
@rsimmons1980 2 күн бұрын
He's mostly a miss
@danemcbaine8835
@danemcbaine8835 2 күн бұрын
I didn't expect the D to be this good so I have been pleasantly surprised by this team and think that they will have a better year than expected.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the coverage Jim and Paul. Go Green!
@youngstacksbasegod
@youngstacksbasegod 2 күн бұрын
Chiles really needs to clean up the turnovers it’s a huge problem
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 2 күн бұрын
Chiles,, sparty team captain, too early ,, michigan football cannot wait for sparty football 2024
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
"Tard2017" - name checks out
@SteveSmith-cl2mu
@SteveSmith-cl2mu 2 күн бұрын
Downriver Wolverine
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 Күн бұрын
@@youngstacksbasegod show chiles the bench, tell chiles to sleep on the bench
@majinYtube
@majinYtube 2 күн бұрын
Msu was definitely the better team but the turnovers and penalties caught to them I believe this team is good just gotta stop with the bone head decision making. Next up Ohio state I still believe we can beat OSU BUT these mistakes gots to get cleaned up and they have to play their cleanest football yet go green go white all day every day!!
@onthelow0
@onthelow0 2 күн бұрын
No turnovers and not allowing osu to get big plays and there’s a chance
@Troy-fv9uq
@Troy-fv9uq Күн бұрын
You think they can beat OSU? 25 point underdogs
@onthelow0
@onthelow0 Күн бұрын
@@Troy-fv9uq It obviously isn’t likely at all but it’s not like years prior where osu was obviously gonna win by 35+
@KozieCouch
@KozieCouch Күн бұрын
Easily the most interesting Spartan team in a decade. A little will go a long way with Aiden. It’s weird to say he has the most progress to make because he’s the only player with that capacity to make that much progress. GO GREEN. I think this team will stun anyone sleeping.
@Vinmartelli
@Vinmartelli 2 күн бұрын
Great analysis gents. Very tough loss given all the poor decision mistakes. While disappointing - really are hoping we see improvement in all phases of the team by end of year. This O-Line is concerning providing poor blocking on consistent basis which makes it hard for running game and time for Chiles - teams will key in on this in future which could mean defense is on field way too long. Team still has high ceiling if they can get it all working together! Go Green!
@marcorolo4726
@marcorolo4726 2 күн бұрын
If Aiden is a captain. Why no post game press conference. I get the age thing. But you can’t be a captain and be shielded by your coach
@BrentAnderson-lb2sm
@BrentAnderson-lb2sm 2 сағат бұрын
I was at the game. The overthrow TD pass to Foster was bad. The overthrow INT to end the game in front of the BC student section is a sign that Chiles will make bad mistakes, even with seasoning. If OSU gets an interception on an overthrow, why not put in the seasoned, gritty backup? The OL and KLA on State’s last score showed up big time. Look at Pittsburgh and how they use Justin Fields in the red zone with the option play. That should have been utilized more. And running the ball out of the end zone to start the second half makes me think it was a coaching error. Got to take the touchback.
@mjn1332
@mjn1332 2 күн бұрын
Great content. Thx Jim and Paul. Always love your post-game analysis.
@shim6057
@shim6057 2 күн бұрын
Left a lot of points on the field and played a horrible game. Still almost won. Its hard to believe this BC team almost beat the number 6 tram on the road.
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
That team won't be #6 after having to take Vanderbilt to 3 OT to win.
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
I really hated the final interception, he got some pressure, but there was still time and time outs, and when hes ptessured he just goes for it all. We dont hxve the recieving corps to make alot of these types of 50/50 balls, it would have been exciting to see chiles throw to jayden reed, or keon colman or nailor. Dude needs to learn to scramble, check down, throw it away or take the sack not just heave it under pressure. Still were on schedule for my prediction 7-5, 3 wins in sept. 1 upset in oct. And 3 wins in nov.
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
I said before this game if we didnt lose the turnover battle and can reduce he penalties we would win this game easily and almost won despite the turnovers. Reduced the penalties finally though, i think we only had like 25 yd ik penalties and one was that "late hit" that started 2 yds in bounds and just carried out of bounds
@SteveSmith-cl2mu
@SteveSmith-cl2mu 2 күн бұрын
Honestly he should have had 6 interceptions. The guys just dropped them
@ShiftyEyes0o
@ShiftyEyes0o 2 күн бұрын
Chiles has all the talent in the world. Main concern is accuracy is sometjing you usually have or you don't. So far, he hasn't demonstrated consistent accuracy.. which is a bit worrisome.
@andyhsong
@andyhsong 2 күн бұрын
my man on the right sounds like he just finished crying
@bigheff517
@bigheff517 2 күн бұрын
Yes,Chiles made too many mistakes. We also get shutout with an average qb.
@LucasWhitney-ln3re
@LucasWhitney-ln3re Күн бұрын
Paul saying Katin Houser would've been better was something. Horrific take.
@waltermacelt2556
@waltermacelt2556 2 күн бұрын
Jim: how would a healthy wr corp and a better run game change Chilles bad throws and mistakes? WR were (wide) open and he was getting a decent amount of time to deliver good passes!
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
Fewer passes? When a QB is forced to carry the team because the run isn't working, he has to make more throws and force it more. And take more chances. Look at UM, Orji barely threw. He didn't have to.
@waltermacelt2556
@waltermacelt2556 2 күн бұрын
🤦🏼‍♂️they had a 50/50 run pass game. But the point was he was missing wide open wr! All the other shit is just smoke filled coffee House BS
@MarkSpaan
@MarkSpaan 2 күн бұрын
Nate Carter (great guy) is just not as creative and elusive as KLA! PT % should be 70 KLA, 30 Carter! This is very obvious! Also, for gods sake don't throw him a pass!Play Shuster next week and give Chiles a mental break! His brain just isn't in the right spot right now. Let him watch and learn some more.
@Devroyal7
@Devroyal7 2 күн бұрын
Cap. Chiles is the guy, ceiling is high. Thier 3-1. Let's see how it goes over the next few weeks.
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
God that pass was right to Carter and hit him in the gloves and he had another one like that last week too
@Spartan_AG_999
@Spartan_AG_999 2 күн бұрын
Man we should've won this game. Very disappointing. We will not win ANY games throwing 3 or 4 pics per game. Go GREEN
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
We still play Purdue. lol
@SteveSmith-cl2mu
@SteveSmith-cl2mu 2 күн бұрын
Maybe Aiden is here for the money and throwing the game on purpose to win bets. He did mention betting before his first game. It makes you wonder…
@ryan2985k
@ryan2985k Күн бұрын
It makes nobody wonder. Why would he throw games and risk getting caught when he has a future in the league for the next 15 years. Use your head
@LucasWhitney-ln3re
@LucasWhitney-ln3re Күн бұрын
holy shit we have some of the dumbest fans in america.
@CleanCutKennels
@CleanCutKennels Күн бұрын
I think this week we have nothing to lose if chiles makes the same mistakes this week. They need to hold him accountable and take him out for a drive or two. it seems like he's too comfortable, just flushing bad plays he needs take care of the football we have a good defense amd special teams stop forcing plays
@christopherlawson8731
@christopherlawson8731 2 күн бұрын
Guys, there should not be one returner bringing it out of the end zone. Period!
@chucky2569
@chucky2569 2 күн бұрын
OSU scares me😮 turnovers against that team, it could get ugly
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
No one ever thought we'd win that game on the schedule. It will be a measuring stick. If we can keep it from getting ugly, that in itself is a positive.
@Troy-fv9uq
@Troy-fv9uq Күн бұрын
Yeah 25 point underdogs this Saturday. I think when OSU starters are in they've only punted once or twice thru 3 games.
@ryan2985k
@ryan2985k Күн бұрын
3-1 I’ll take it
@edwinheywood2158
@edwinheywood2158 2 күн бұрын
Screwed by a Tucker once again
@sc100ott
@sc100ott 2 күн бұрын
Lost the rushing yards battle. Lost the turnover battle. Lost the game.
@nxtDRose
@nxtDRose 2 күн бұрын
Chiles has no chemistry with any WRs not named Nick Marsh
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
As an aside: 1) George Blaha needs to retire. He's just not able to cover games now. The last play he said "and it was almost picked off" to which Strayhorn replied, "no George it was picked off". Loved him during the great Pistons era and all he's done for MSU. But it's sad listening now. 2) ACC Network is hands down better game coverage than the BTN. BTN is miserable, it's like watching a locally produced high school game.
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
Also, Strayhorn saying "ohhh no!" or "uggghhh" in the background on every play needs to stop.
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
​@@YTSpartyas a cibs fan that used to listen to ron santo all the time i disagree, i like knowong they bleed green, santo and harry carry used to uggggh all the time, echoing my own sentiments much of the time.
@DaveCirigliano
@DaveCirigliano 2 күн бұрын
START Schuster vs OSU. Chiles needs to get his mind right. He's physically gifted but he needs to fix his decision making now.
@Devroyal7
@Devroyal7 2 күн бұрын
😂😂 Chiles is the best QB on this roster. He's got his warts but that statement you made his cap.
@kelleycarr7954
@kelleycarr7954 2 күн бұрын
We don't know what is happening behind the scenes, but you can tell he isn't getting it. There has to be a time in the future when the team comes first. So not a crap comment, just maybe a few weeks early.
@chucky2569
@chucky2569 2 күн бұрын
that is not going to happen
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
If Chiles is struggling I have no issue with pulling him. We're not beating OSU, don't crush his confidence for no reason.
@KingofKlom45
@KingofKlom45 2 күн бұрын
@@Devroyal7until Chiles is worth putting on the field hell fucking no. Put a proven talent out there and move on
@jameswalton4845
@jameswalton4845 2 күн бұрын
I think we need to try Tommy Schuster. The guy holds all the records for northern Illinois huge records six 7000 yards 5060 touchdowns. The guys are much better quarterback and makes a lot better decisions.
@j_r_junior
@j_r_junior 2 күн бұрын
Jfc
@Devroyal7
@Devroyal7 2 күн бұрын
Chiles is the guy. He will improve.
@waltermacelt2556
@waltermacelt2556 2 күн бұрын
North Dakota !
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
He wasn't at northern Illinois it was at north Dakota state, which isn't even FBS it's FCS-granted it's one of he best FCS teams but still the competition is not as good in that league
@bigheff517
@bigheff517 2 күн бұрын
The o line is terrible he would get killed out there.
@jamesadamo7867
@jamesadamo7867 Күн бұрын
My bros...aiden aint it. Hes gonna be even worse against osu and oregon
@HokageFlete
@HokageFlete 2 күн бұрын
Brutal Loss
@shim6057
@shim6057 2 күн бұрын
No question about it!
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 2 күн бұрын
Chile ,,sparty football team captain, too early,,, michigan football cannot wait october 2024
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
​@@Loydstardeli2017nice copy and paste sir spam-a-lot.
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 Күн бұрын
@@Satchmojones ohio state football sparty football next loss ohio state ryan day tell jonathon smith 100 points , laugh, laugh this saturday,,michigan football cannot wait october 26 2024 ,,
@johnmoon822
@johnmoon822 2 күн бұрын
Returning a kickoff is fine, regardless of the rain. But, hang on to the ball!!!
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
I think with the generous placement at the 25, it's a no brainer to NOT try and return a kick in the rain. Just take the 25.
@KingofKlom45
@KingofKlom45 2 күн бұрын
It’s 25 free yards. FREE. It’s raining. If that was a coaching decision we’re in for a long tenure under smith. If it was a read by the returner. Get him off the field
@KingofKlom45
@KingofKlom45 2 күн бұрын
2.5 first downs for free
@johnmoon822
@johnmoon822 2 күн бұрын
Right. I guess we’re all geniuses from the hindsight.
@Treesareawesomeforall
@Treesareawesomeforall 2 күн бұрын
Spartans should be proud. Great game overall. Few rookie qb turnovers was the game. Lets go green! This team will beat Michigan.
@mikelee0072
@mikelee0072 2 күн бұрын
Stop with the age excuse. It has zero to do with missing wide open guys, running free by 15 yards. Spartans should've won by two TDs. You have true freshman QB's, one at Nebraska, that doesn't use age as an excuse. ALL the things you guys stated we need to get better at? Have ZERO to do with missing wide open WR's. NONE. Make the backyard, pitch and catch throws and we win. It's going to be a long upcoming two-weeks. This L lays squarely on Chiles shoulders.
@j_r_junior
@j_r_junior 2 күн бұрын
Smith should hire you onto the coaching staff. Your expertise and insights would get this team to 12 wins /s
@Devroyal7
@Devroyal7 2 күн бұрын
He's definitely got accuracy issues. I agree mostly. But it's inexperience too. Carter gotta catch that pass in the end zone too
@brendanschriber3242
@brendanschriber3242 2 күн бұрын
Age and experience is everything. Look at players like Jalen milroe who discovered the forward pass after starting for 1 year. Go blue
@burntchickenleg3504
@burntchickenleg3504 2 күн бұрын
Pretty fair point
@zrar8259
@zrar8259 2 күн бұрын
That same Nebraska qb lost them the game this week missing a walk in td. Age may not be the excuse but experience is. It’s his 4th full start and first in adverse weather, he’s learning as he goes. No one should’ve expected perfection this year just growth.
@googleface5
@googleface5 2 күн бұрын
It boils down to coaching. The turnovers and penalties are inexcusable. So many opportunities to win despite 3 INTs too! Coaches need to do better.
@terrynesterowich7108
@terrynesterowich7108 2 күн бұрын
Change the quarterback when the interceptions start. It’s too much pressure on him. He is still learning but you’re hurting the Team so he can learn. He has to learn to be a Team player too. He is young and has to learn when to get out when things are not going right. His talent is there but he’s wants to be a leader. He has to learn to be a good leader you have learn when to step down to someone else.
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
You have to let him have the reps. If he struggles against OSU, then pull him for his own sake. There's no sense in killing his confidence in a blow out against a top 5 team.
@bigheff517
@bigheff517 2 күн бұрын
You don't learn by getting benched. You never played sports past elementary school
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
I agree but i dont think you pull him, i think he needs to show leadership by not trying to be the hero everytime he gets some pressure on him by heaving it up for grabs, or trying to force it.
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
@@Satchmojones But how do you distinguish when he's successful from when he messes up? You tell him to hold back, then he becomes totally unproductive. It's like on defense saying don't commit a penalty, then suddenly the defense is no longer aggressive. It's a tight rope, he just needs to learn from his mistakes
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 2 күн бұрын
Chiles team captain too early ,, michigan football cannot wait october 2024
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
No life 😂
@Loydstardeli2017
@Loydstardeli2017 2 күн бұрын
Ohio state coach ryan day said if sparty football fans prays no 100 points game next saturday
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
Pete and Repeat are in a boat, Pete falls out, whos left...ask the OP.
@iRacerJared
@iRacerJared 2 күн бұрын
Sparty gonna Sparty
@lylemoore3827
@lylemoore3827 2 күн бұрын
Get a life😂
@YTSparty
@YTSparty 2 күн бұрын
LMAO. The thought that if UofM hadn't had one break out run, you'd be hiding under a desk some where and wouldn't be posting here. Where were you last week?
@Satchmojones
@Satchmojones 2 күн бұрын
​@@YTSparty or if USC had had their first Sting QB, dont sweat it man UofM fans have the memory of a goldfish.
@iRacerJared
@iRacerJared 2 күн бұрын
@@YTSparty Yeah but that didn’t we won lulz
@nxtDRose
@nxtDRose 2 күн бұрын
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