V-Cast: Dominant for stretches, Michigan State squanders opportunity for road win at Michigan

[@mikegee248]

Jim, Paul: Which one of the Spartan players will attack Coach Cignetti’s IU kids this week after the game is over? Or in the tunnel? Or on the street?

[@mikegee248]

Jim, Paul: what’s in the water in Least Lansing? Why do their players always have to assault someone after the game is over? Maybe Coach Smith can hire some Police to keep his players in check when they play in A2?

[@wolverinechat1369]

Michigan fan here. I don't always agree with your analysis. After state games, but I thought you guys did a great job of analysing this game and your spot on. You gave Michigan, credit and you're right. State could have won this game tonight. If they had gone up early 14, nothing, it might have been a different game. Fortunately for Michigan, unfortunately for Michigan state. This game is played on the field and things happen, but good luck. to you guys. I think you're heading in the right direction .

[@justinb6379]

You need to give Moore more credit! He used orgi for running and Warren for throwing genius ! ( Spartan fan )

[@mikegee248]

I agree totally. Sparty wears a skirt, and Coach Smith was the head beaver at one time. It’s a good match in Least Lansing.

[@sc100ott]

To me, this looked like two top-25 teams going at it. It wasn’t terribly sloppy on either side, and both teams made some great plays on both sides of the ball. MSU statistically won, but obviously the final score is the only one that matters. As a State fan, I’ve seen my share of games where Michigan should have won, but MSU somehow managed to pull it off, so I can’t be too bothered when the tables are reversed. Michigan needed this more, and they got it. Kudos to them. On to Indiana.

[@JJ_hehehehehe]

You’re delusional. They both suck.

[@SR-hf3hx]

Record wise they aren't good. But the game was a hell of a lot cleaner than I thought it would be

[@wolverinechat1369]

Great Take

[@Loydstardeli2017]

Paul bunyan trophy back home bo schbechler building 10/ 2024/ 2025 ​@@JJ_hehehehehe

[@donavonhornbeck]

As a Michigan fan, I’m shocked they won this game. It all comes down to finally not beating ourselves with turnovers and penalties. Michigan is still not great, and we will most likely finish 6-6, but this is at least a step in the right direction.

[@putansug]

Yeah, as an added bonus for you guys, this loss will have us spiraling to 5-7 to 6-6 at best this season with people calling it some crazy moral victory by going to a bowl game.

[@jackpackage4278]

@@putansug I’m a Michigan fan and we will also be lucky to go 6-6 this year too. Our remaining schedule is insane and I really only have hope against Northwestern 😭

[@nickaldrich2281]

​@@putansug the expectation for this year was always going to be 6-6. Good lord people need to tone down their expectations

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

​@@nickaldrich2281for real. Anyone who has high expectations for a nobody like MSU is delusional

[@putansug]

@@nickaldrich2281 Who said that lol? Indiana is doing more with less both in coaching and NIL. There is some salvaging if they just do the bare minimum for a bowl, but it also looks really bad to lose two winnable games and turn what could be a 9-3 or 8-4 season into 7-5 or 6-6. If they miss a bowl, it's safe to say the team and coach did not meet expectations and heat should start to ramp up next year.

[@putansug]

This is such a bad loss in so many ways. Where is this awesome QB we were supposed to get that cost us 1 million dollars a year in NIL? I feel like 17 points against this UM team is a little disappointing for that type of hype.

[@durodbrown6804]

John l Smith is not a big ten coach

[@googleface5]

Davis Warren was the better QB and that’s just a terrible thing to accept.

[@putansug]

@@googleface5 And that's the thing. Why are we paying for Denard Robinson/Devin Gardner? All sizzle, no steak.

[@GuyCostigan]

He's a freshman. He wasn't the problem. It was more the bad play calling and not feeding Carter the ball when he was clearly cooking all game. Not to mention atrocious defensive play

[@putansug]

@@GuyCostigan Giving up 24 points considering a TO and a botched onside kick isn't atrocious. Scoring 17, is unacceptable by any measure. Between the 20's, he's fine, but he can't close out any meaningful drives. How many INT's vs. TD's has he had this year? Everyone those D-Robb was this amazing player too at one point.

[@jinsunwoo1709]

The loss aside, MSU is ahead of schedule in being competitive. Back at season's end last year, we would have been excited at where we are right now. Give Smith time to restock the roster. Till then, best to reserve judgment.

[@putansug]

I wouldn't say so. They have one decent win. Maryland and BC are REALLY bad teams. Smith took all those big name players and coaches from OSU and they haven't delivered so far except for last week. Clock management, mistakes, and late game play calling were all really bad... That's on coaching.

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

You sure about that

[@marcorolo4726]

Jim C. You gotta ask Rossi about not covering Loveland. And why they didn’t sell out to stop the run when orji came in. Two massive mistakes.

[@brianschultz-e2c]

BINGO! Rossi clearly wasn't prepared against UM. Not sure why he didn't prepare for their two biggest weapons. My excitement having Rossi as our DC took a big hit after this game.

[@SR-hf3hx]

No one is covering Loveland, don't feel bad about it. There isn't a team in America who can line up with him. Even Texas couldn't do it

[@mikegee248]

Bc Loveland is uncoverable and will be playing on Sundays.

[@dankennedy8266]

Listened to the entire session. Very cogent and insightful. Thank you.

[@chrishathaway7054]

bottomless coffee in the press box?

[@sicnarf423]

Just why can’t this team execute in the RED ZONE

[@durodbrown6804]

John l Smith Jr is not a big ten coach

[@sicnarf423]

@@durodbrown6804 then why is he?

[@BrentAnderson-lb2sm]

Starts and ends with the QB. If he would only do more option runs, you’d see more points scored.

[@BradyB21]

@@durodbrown6804you’ve sad this 2 times in the comment section shut up

[@sappyjohnson]

Bad OL

[@cdog2331]

it was way too early in the game to try that onside kick...I agree with Paul.

[@mzerk1021]

After the 1st qtr, UM played like they had something to lose, MSU OL is much improved after the bye - great to see!, Carter had a great day. The on-side kick was baffling. MSU bit on a couple UMtrick plays... I think the coaching staff underestimated the rivalry --- sorda strange this could have happened. We have another tough opponent/game coming this week! GO GREEN!

[@trevorthompson330]

MSU used both perimeter stretch plays and some inside plays against Iowa and UM, which helped; you simply cannot run up the middle. Strayhorn did not say to wait for the blocks; he said he should have cut it back inside. Jones didn't start it; they were engaged with arms. But Loveland then head-butted Jones.

[@al9685]

Better luck next year little bro

[@rippstarr]

It’s lil sis now! 😂

[@RupyReacher]

The unfortunate growing pains of a new regime. All in all, more promising than the years of 'relentless' we were subjected to and insulted with under the last regime.. At least there is organization and execution of a plan, with improvement each week.

[@SG-jv5zi]

I mean, this is a transition year for both programs, but they both have a lot of talent all over the ball. I think both could be 9-10 win teams next year.

[@rickmsu1271]

This is clearly a rebuilding year and they are establishing a way to play, feels like Dantonio’s first year in so many ways. This is the second game that could’ve been a W. The reality is the talent is still not there and yet we are in games we have lost. This team is showing spirit pride and determination. I like Smith - he is level headed and calm - at press conference he looked pissed and you could see some legit emotion. The Loveland comments post game will be used for a while to drive this rivalry! As Chiles develops and Marsh gets bigger the next couple years could be some gold we talk about in the next decade! Go Green!!

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

Felt like Dantonios final year 😂😂 go blue

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

You guys already hit your ceiling 😂😂😂😂

[@lylemoore3827]

​@@nicholastaiariol2631our qb is better than any of Michigan's QBs and we have another couple years for him to develop. We are not even near our ceiling

[@eatchicken3845]

Why can't this guy pronounce Alex Orji correctly? Has he never seen the word? He keeps adding syllables.

[@mikegee248]

Michigan smacked that Sparty ass Diddy style! Go Blue!

[@jimthrower9179]

Classic Jimmy trying to spin a loss into a loss with dignity 😂 never change Jim

[@mpwmu9041]

Little brother coping and seething.

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

They just don't matter

[@ryencollins3417]

@@mpwmu9041 you'll be screamin" fire moore" next week...

[@TomH-s4p]

​@@ryencollins3417Bring back Mel Tucker!

[@spartandogs3126]

One year under Jonathan Smith and Walmart won that game off of MSU couple of mistakes. just goes to show you where this is heading. better start calling Stalions back lol…

[@KingfisherStocks]

I find it interesting that UM was the only team in Big Ten and top 25 games with zero penalties called against it.

[@outdoorsman909]

Cry

[@sappyjohnson]

@@KingfisherStocks fixed

[@sappyjohnson]

@@outdoorsman909 keep cheating little boy

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

I find it interesting that MSU fans think their team matters

[@mikemckindles4726]

It's called disciplined football

[@johnnyV2194]

It’s crazy, but sometimes a holding is better than a fumble, or a pass interference is better than a touchdown. A couple times a year a penalty is okay.

[@TomH-s4p]

Nice to see some of the Tucker Thug Spirit at the very last on the field. Was that guy one of the Tunnel Gang from last year? Go Spartans!

[@BrentAnderson-lb2sm]

The turnovers by Chiles are the principal reason the team lost to both BC and scUM. That lackadaisical approach by Chiles where he was stripped of the ball changed the game. When can we expect him to outgrow the lack of situational awareness?

[@putansug]

I kind of hope he transfers personally.

[@hood_TheJoker]

Michigan State caused me a 20 spot... thanks a lot Sparty 🤣

[@cdog2331]

nobody really cares...

[@hood_TheJoker]

@@cdog2331 those morons blew it

[@riverraisin1]

There goes your kids college education.

[@Loydstardeli2017]

Local metro detroit newspapers sports pages mostly everybody predicted sparty football to win

[@jasonmcintyre4820]

I don’t understand the feelings of State should have won. Michigan played a good game and made actual plays. State did not make the plays that actually matter at the right times. That’s the difference between winning programs and programs who aren’t there yet. If I’m a State fan, I am encouraged though. The MSU program is headed up and I think UM is gonna struggle for a couple more seasons at least.

[@GreenZone444]

Again the Spartans gave this game away. Play calling was weak. Carter's performance was outstanding. Mistakes and penalties allowed Spartans to lose. 4th qtr, final play... needed 5 yards to get 1st down and extend the play. Instead, threw a pass that failed and was almost intercepted in the end zone. These plays are killing us. The team is making progress but I don't see consistency. Indiana is up next and that will be a more difficult team to beat..

[@mikemalik7948]

Hahahahahaha, gave it away, because yall knew it would be just taken anyways. Lil bro behavior

[@nickaldrich2281]

​@@mikemalik7948 another Michigan Wolverqueen fan trolling. Soft behavior 😂

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

​@@nickaldrich2281another MSU player trying to fight big bro at the end of the game. Spartan behavior 😂😂

[@mikemalik7948]

@@nickaldrich2281 eat another loss lil bro

[@spartandogs3126]

@@mikemalik7948 your program is circling the drain in one year I think we can all see where this is heading time to call Stalions back lol….

[@robertboulis4238]

UM fan here. Though UM has a fair amount of raw talent, they are a bad team. I expected MSU to win. The way MSU dominated the line of scrimmage, I am really baffled that UM won. I need to watch the replay.

[@jeffelford5302]

How do these guys say USC is a mediocre team? USC would beat MSU by at least 21

[@willowbrook2717]

Comparoni is a laughingstock. Never forget he blamed the tunnel assaults as being the fault of Jim Harbaugh. He just can't be journalistic about anything Michigan State, especially when it comes to Michigan. It's a requirement for msu media.

[@lylemoore3827]

Not hardly 😂

[@Spartan_AG_999]

Bummer. We beat ourselves in this one.

[@dirtydangles17j5]

Not really, state just sucks😂

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

Nice try 😂😂😂

[@spartandogs3126]

You are absolutely right MSU was the better team and everyone knows it. It is crazy to see how much Walmart has collapsed after stallions was taken out of the picture just goes to show you what Walmart truly is when they can’t cheat lol…

[@spartandogs3126]

You are absolutely right it’s crazy to see how far Walmart university has fallen without stallions. In one year under Jonathan Smith and a little to clean up and the MSU is the better team already.

[@jameslyon163]

I think they should think about benching Chiles. He still looks lost and keeps making the same bad decisions. MSU was out coached in the end too. Smith has absolutely no emotion and doesn’t know how important this game is to MSU fans. Worst loss of the year.

[@johnnyV2194]

Cheer them on. We just might end up with a better record than um.

[@marcorolo4726]

Horrible loss because the coaching was atrocious. Not run blitzing orji when he is allergic to the pass was idiotic. Leaving Loveland uncovered 4-5 times ??? Idiotic. Rossi was awful. Lindgren not much better. This staff was out coached by the buffoon sherrone moore

[@johnnyV2194]

It’s all about turnovers this year. A missed field goal is also a turnover.

[@justinb6379]

Chilis is not the problem! How about the defense that cant stop a running QB! Sounds like our motor City cats down interstate 96

[@johnnyV2194]

Enjoy the entertaining Detroit Lions. Get to a bowl game and win it.

[@dalepickelman7281]

we got out coached period

[@MW-zo2ob]

SUCH a disappointing and embarrassing loss. Our coach simply got Out Coach by Moore and showed no passion for the game. Unacceptable.

[@sappyjohnson]

That targeting call was critical. It was complete nonsense. Also, the refs didn't flag Michigan one time this game. Not one penalty? LOL

[@QuantumRadii]

How was it nonsense? Did you watch the play. What’s so hard to understand? In football, you CANNOT lower your head and hit a player with the crown of your helmet. While there are times where is not so easy to see, it’s pretty clear this is was #7 did. While the announcers were quick to say he had no malicious intent, I disagree. He knew exactly what he was trying to do, and to whom he was trying to do it. Again, off all the targeting/personal foul calls in this rivalry, this one is pretty cut and dry. As to the no penalties on Michigan, while rare for sure, this was a staple of Michigan under Harbaugh and something they’ve got away from - clean games with very low penalty totals. MSU had their chances, and they made critical mistakes like the missed FG, and the strip near the end of the half. Even with Michigan being down, this is still a team that plays hard and has talent. Can’t beat yourself like that and expect to win rivalry games.

[@sappyjohnson]

@@QuantumRadii Because it happens nearly every play. The RB lowered his head. Wasn't deliberate at all. Even the announcer admitted it.

[@sappyjohnson]

@@QuantumRadii you obviously never played football

[@sc100ott]

First of all, I think the rule, at least this application of it, is stupid, yet refs need to follow and enforce the rules as they have been instructed, so I get that. BUT, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen this called purely on review during a TV timeout. Maybe I missed it, but no flags were thrown? This call was bizarre to me. The QB was a runner at that point, not sliding, not passing, not an exposed receiver. I’m not sure how you’re supposed to go low to tackle without lowering your head a little. The rule needs to be changed. Michigan got a gift on that, with MSU losing their best LB for the rest of the game.

[@Flyswatter77]

One of the many reasons you are lil bro is lil bros lack discipline. Always been your Achilles heel in East Landfill. Some just never grow up.

[@rippstarr]

It’s lil sis now!

[@NevadaSpartyEd]

This has nothing to do directly with the game. But I’m tired of analysts covering games of the schools where they played - conflict of interest.

[@willowbrook2717]

Exactly

[@joeplonka6568]

If Smith doesn’t realize this then time to move t(e f on

[@dalepickelman7281]

chiles didnt play bad. rossi got out coaced....they didnt cover loveland, spencer needs to be benched

[@TONYNOVAA]

"They were desperate" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnnyV2194]

Move on people.

[@KozieCouch]

It’s the staffs worst game. Players did a lot well. Head scratcher.

[@dalepickelman7281]

msu is 4-5....this counts as 2 games

[@dalepickelman7281]

Remember when we had that other john Smith who didn't embrace the rivalry? He didn't last long either....

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

Baby brother 😂

[@durodbrown6804]

Throw the damn ball

[@putansug]

@durodbrown6804 Carter was moving it on the ground. Ton of YAC so im not sure it was awesome o line play. The strip sack was caused on a passing play which cost them 3 points. The O line looked like it couldn't pass block for shit.

[@sappyjohnson]

Game plan was fine. They dominated Michigan. The OL is the weak spot on this team

[@donavonhornbeck]

😂 hilarious, because as a Michigan fan I was hoping they would throw the ball, because we couldn’t stop Carter.

[@GuyCostigan]

​@@sappyjohnsonO line? Yeah they could use some improvement but they blocked fine most of the night. What about the defensive line?? Didn't have one pressure all night.

[@putansug]

@@GuyCostigan That's why Haladay needs to stop playing and they need to stop blitzing a bad QB under a good OL and just drop back.

[@jonjhon8491]

Little Brother 😂😂

[@ryencollins3417]

@@jonjhon8491 cheaters

[@TomH-s4p]

​@@ryencollins3417Lost again. Boo hoo.

[@timsimmons5287]

Sparty down

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

Down bad

[@osvaldomateo5853]

MSU was better than Michigan in every face of the game but the score. GoBlue

[@calebspencer3451]

Hold that L, lil bros 😂🫵🏼

[@ryencollins3417]

the national "cheaters" o linemen and db's were holding numerous times during the game but not called for one penalty.. lol. someone got paid 😄

[@riverraisin1]

PSSST...Don't tell anybody....we take a collection at the Michigan stadium gates and pay off the refs before every game.

[@ryencollins3417]

@@riverraisin1 ok.. is that you conner??

[@TomH-s4p]

Where is Mel Tucker now?

[@M_GoBlue]

Typical Michigan State fans always think your better when your not always trying to justify something for your defense which is a joke you will always be little brother and never win anything Michigan National Champions something Michigan State will never see ever!!!!!

[@googleface5]

First impressions are everything, and I struggle to find confidence in this coaching staff winning the big games in the future. What a terrible performance.

[@timothychapman269]

@@googleface5 Smith couldn't win the big games at Oregon State. He will get you at best 8 wins per year.

[@ryencollins3417]

the msu coaching staff, along with dumb decisions, played not lose. too conservative on offense. their secondary has struggled all season. why weren't they taking shots down the field. too timid on defense against a team with no real threat at qb or receiver. should have blitzed them repeatedly. go get out coached by a guy whose been getting out coached all season. terrible showing by smith. the players deserved better 😠

[@timothychapman269]

Karma for Smith doing Oregon State dirty.

[@putansug]

@@timothychapman269 I mean, did he say he was going to stay there forever? The PAC12 folding up had a lot to do with the move

[@timothychapman269]

@@putansug more like the way he talked loyalty but the day after the last game.... that very morning he took off to MSU with almost the entire coaching staff. I get the whole Pac12 blowing up but he talked a loyal guy but all along he knew he was going. And to make matters worse, he dumped ALL his Oregon State clothes at the local Goodwill. Just not a very classy guy imho.

[@Loydstardeli2017]

Michigan football fan party last saturday night& sunday mourning paul bunyan trophy back? home bo schembechler building

[@davidwright1728]

Kick Michigan to the curb? Give us a break Michigan kicked your butts to the curb.....

[@tylermayes2907]

Lil bro doing lil bro 💩 lmao Michigan wasn’t waiting for y’all to get ten on one at the end of the game half your team stayed back they knew they didn’t want the smoke 〽️🏆

[@durodbrown6804]

John l Smith Jr is not a big ten. Coach

[@stevebundy4987]

Cry babies Go Blue

[@jimmy5634]

Messedagain will get their butts handed to them against Oregon…book it.

[@nicholastaiariol2631]

Didn't you say Michigan was going to lose to MSU? 😂😂😂😂 You guys are so bad