Is this Heritage Unit Accurate?

[@the101stdalmatian8]

There is a lot of debate over who truly came up with the name Atlanta. It's been said that it was actually chosen by Joseph Brown, who would go on to be Georgia's governor during the Civil War. We do know that the name was chosen as "Atlanta" is the feminine alternative to "Atlantic"... the city being named in honor of the Western and Atlantic Railroad.

[@v12productions]

Very true. I've heard many theories.

[@c23onrails]

There’s a NS variant of the L&N in Columbus, GA that runs locals and switching jobs, it’s called the NS N&W nose.

[@v12productions]

Been meaning to go see that.

[@jonathanlafferty2271]

@@v12productions In case you hadn't noticed. It's that pulling our heritage behind motto of CSX that's causing all the problems!

[@WJP1361]

It's funny you make the point that the average person couldn't connect the heritage units of NS and UP back to them, as that was the main point for CSX doing the fade idea so that the average person could still tell the unit belonged to CSX. Still beats the stickers by a Longshot though!

[@gamerfan8445]

Okay? You realize the average person doesn't care about heritage units. Meanwhile, there are a lot better ways to identify as CSX. Also, it is more likely that CSX is being cheap with their heritage units.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

@@gamerfan8445 No, I think he has a point. Somebody (who is obviously an idiot) decided that the good idea fairy idea "they should still be able to tell it's a CSX unit" ruined it for anybody who ACTUALLY cares.

[@gamerfan8445]

@@superfamilyallosauridae6505 What?

[@ChessieKitten]

Does the average "railfan" know who Prime Osborn was? 😅

[@ChessieKitten]

No, just pride that those railroads make up the great story of CSX. Chessie and SCL, et al. ! 😅🎉​@@superfamilyallosauridae6505

[@kens.3729]

I’m just Glad that CSX finally Decided to Join the Party Late since they were the Last Class I Railroad to get their Heritage Units out so the Public could Enjoy them.

[@ChessieKitten]

It's just a paint job. Knowing the history is far more rewarding than just seeing a paint job. Fuss over "accuracy" is just petty! 😊

[@f4t4lity0r4]

BNSF probably still has the worst. Other than having some locomotives in old BN and Santa Fe paint, their only heritage unit just has decals on a standard orange and black gevo.

[@zmcknight319]

What is crazy is that the chessie heritage could technically be painted full since csx is chessie system. Csx stands for chessie seaboard incorporated

[@davidmaust1415]

Hopefully CSX will someday let the paint shops use their full potential of painting the entire heritage locomotives for a real masterpiece

[@danimal0921]

I would love to see NS give homage to one of the lines that they absorbed, the Nickle Plate RR up here in Indiana! My great uncle worked on a bridge gang for the NPRR for over 30 years. He retired when I was about 13 or 14 years old. He worked out of the Frankfort, IN yard, and 3 or 4 times when my folks would take us to spend a weekend with them he would take my dad and I to the switch yard there. He would get me on one of the switch engines to go for a ride while they were making up and breaking down the cars! At 63, I would gladly give just about anything to go for one more of those ride alongs!!!!! SUCH GREAT MEMORIES!!!!!

[@jimmyseaver3647]

Norfolk Southern already has a heritage unit painted up in NKP colors (No. 8100) and they periodically let NKP 765 roam around their rails on excursions.

[@Sevenfeet0]

The state of Tennessee has been studying bringing Amtrak trains back to the Nashville-Chattanooga-Atlanta route. It's the highest priority route for a few ideas to being intercity rail back to the main population centers of Tennessee.

[@NStransit8099]

Great video of the Georgia Railroad's history. I reported that 6509 is now locally in Perrysburg, Ohio. With 3415 in West Virginia and 1834 in its home state of Georgia, the Georgia Railroad truly is everywhere.

[@syfrettsj]

What a great video! Although being from south Georgia, it was the Georgia Railroad that got me interested in railfanning while living in Atlanta (Decatur/Avondale Estates areas) attending school. I spent my fair share of time at the Decatur and Stone Mtn. depots, and my first cab ride was from the Decatur depot into Hulsey Yard just prior to the SBD System days. I rode the "Super Mixed" from Hulsey to Lithonia with a friend, and then rode the final mixed train from Hulsey to Union Point and return. I have grown to like most of the CSX heritage units, but my first thought on seeing the Georgia Road unit was that the heralds were missing! Maybe we'll see them added (officially) at some point soon!

[@v12productions]

Thanks for sharing! Wish I could have seen the Georgia Road while it was still operating.

[@Performer]

I got to see it while riding MARTA just after it premiered, and the surprise was worth it! Me and a fellow railfan were tickled to see it randomly in the wild.

[@user-vh1uc6in7b]

It's Called Georgia Railroad Heritage unit what is that was awesome Catch!👍🏽😎

[@user-vh1uc6in7b]

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[@revharrycwigmoreiii5787]

Thanks for the update V12 Productions, especially on the New Heritage unit of Georgia Railroad. You answered my questions, I have had about this unit, Thanks and Have a great day, stay dry, we are going to get the Hurricane Debby, too, in Central North Carolina.

[@DanHPage]

Charlie, thanks for this well produced summary of both heritage units in general and the Georgia RR in particular. You certainly know a lot of railroad history! Dan Page

[@v12productions]

Thanks Dan!

[@user-nq1fk3db3i]

This is totally awesome right there I like these specially the csx heritage units and all the heritage units that's awesome really woot woot 🌞

[@johnchambers8528]

Thanks for the video. I did not know much about either of the railroads featured except that near the end of passenger service they operated a mixed train out of Atlanta. As you noted as much as I prefer the NS and UP heritage units since they look as the original railroads most likely would look like in the modern era. But at least CSX is also bringing the memories of the old railroads to life.

[@22NCRAILFAN23]

Nice Catches V12, I Can’t Wait Till I see it! Really liked the tour though the history of the Georgia railroad in Atlanta and the other locations!

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@Ayden2008]

People need to actually accept the amount of work CSX puts into these amazing heritage unit instead of criticizing them over it

[@UnstoppableRailfan]

I agree, and they don’t look that bad as 2/3 heritage units!

[@Ayden2008]

@@UnstoppableRailfanme to, especially the Georgia railroad, the B&O, and several others.

[@UnstoppableRailfan]

@@Ayden2008 I agree

[@thomasmackowiak]

Thank you, for this video, about the CSX's Georgia Railroad Heritage unit and information about the history of the Georgia Railroad. I enjoyed watching the video! (Posted 4 August 2024 at 1439 CDT.)

[@Deutscherufen14]

Good video! The C&O is my favorite, and 1973 is the second, also nice catch of 1834!

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@henryhitchcock3088]

Thank you so much for this video as the Georgia Railroad was my railroad. My grandmother's house was one block from the Georgia Railroad depot in Milledgeville GA where I spent hours of my childhood watching trains from there.

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@Athenstrainman]

Like 3 years ago a friend and I drove pretty much the entire length of the GA road all the way into Augusta. We saw only one train and that was a ballest train dropping rock, engineer threw us some waters. Great memories on that trip!

[@MrStevesTrains]

Great video, love the footage. Last month in Flint, Michigan I seen a beautifully painted Heritage Grand Trunk Unit in the Canadian National Rail Yard. ❤

[@kenroberts4767]

Waiting to see what they choose for the 1900, Seaboard Air Line unit. Citrus colors, olive drab, or jolly green giant?

[@milepost465historyhobbies4]

There is another unit that passed by the Charleston WV Amtrak station last night. It’s a wide cab GE with the Georgia Railroad sticker on the side of the nose. It was the last unit on a loaded coal train going east probably out of Peach Creek, WV. Awesome video!

[@SilverCometMedia]

Sweet video! Really neat history on that line but unfortunately not too essential for a whole lot of freight

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

There's always marketing value in publicity. That's why heritage paint and steam programs exist. Rail customers certainly do have a choice when shipping. Being able to ship by rail is not mandatory

[@jdubbs3422]

I'm thankful that CSX is doing heritage units. I'm not going to complain at all.

[@hudsonhennosy3715]

I love this video thanks for making this video been watching you for long time now

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

Back in 1988 or 1989 I was train watching in CSX's D Tower, Grafton, West Virginia. By that time, "foreign to us" engines from down south were infiltrating our former B&O / Chessie country. It was after dark, and a blue GP38 or GP40 with Georgia or Georgia Railroad lettering rolled by, a trailing unit in the consist if I remember correctly. No chance to take a picture. You know how it goes when a train goes by in the dark and at very close (just outside and below the tower windows) range. Besides, photography through those windows was pretty pointless. I think it was the only time I ever saw one. I concur with the other commenters that it is nice that CSX finally got around to doing this.

[@FECchaserhenry]

Love your videos and is probably the reason I started railfanning. I also get a lot of inspiration from other KZbinrs but still your vids put a smile on my face

[@v12productions]

That's awesome! Thank you!

[@jsax4heart]

Wow! I grew up in Conyers and those emblems were not there until the last few years. I haven't been back home in a while but looks like they removed the "Conyers" town marker on the side of the depot and replaced it with that City of Conyers plaque. That crossing signal box in front of the depot was always silver to me, so I kind of wonder who painted it red and white. I am pretty sure they still have a connection to the stone mountain railroad, they removed the switch though. When I would go over to Covington they kept their connection to the Great Walton railroad but several years ago they ripped up the crossing across 278 just beyond the interstate ramp.

[@JonathanGomes1980]

I saw UP1988 “The Katy” last month at their Intermodal yard in French Camp. Usually don’t see many different colored units, or at least I haven’t in the 2 years I have been hauling out of there.

[@Farmall-H]

We have a railway that passes past our farm and anytime a train rolls by me and my brother almost stop and stare

[@Lala00722]

i like how the front stayed in CSX livery on these heritage units i personally think that looks good and you immediately know that it’s a CSX unit

[@paulkoza8652]

Nice video as always, Charlie. The fact of the matter is, neither CSX, NS, BNSF, nor UP give a crap about how their heritage units are painted. All of us can wax nostalgic about the fallen flags, but to the folks running these companies, they could care less.

[@natgass8102]

very interesting and informative I had no idea that the Georgia Railroad was involved in settling and renaming Atlanta thanks

[@mdsimpson71]

I personally like the CSX heritage unit paint. Im looking forward to the Clinchfield Railroad unit as i grew up around the Clinchfield and im curious as to which CRR paint they'll go with. Loved your video!

[@Zebrails]

Waiting to see a Seaboard Air Line heritage unit...

[@PHelm]

I've admired your work for a couple of years - not sure why it took me so long to subscribe. Great job as usual sir.

[@v12productions]

Thank you!

[@DairyNS]

great video

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@train_chicken6143]

i like the 3/4ths bc when you don't know they catch you off guard

[@gamerfan8445]

Lame

[@train_chicken6143]

@@gamerfan8445 bro at least they made an HU i can tell you are an NS fan

[@gamerfan8445]

@train_chicken6143 actually no, I prefer CSX over NS.

[@train_chicken6143]

@@gamerfan8445 now idk what other people think I’m completely fine with what you say and think as well but another reason I like them is bc normal people see the NS HUs and don't connect them with NS but maybe the CSX cab might connect it with CSX I'm not mad I'm not trying to annoying you if I am sorry

[@gamerfan8445]

@train_chicken6143 there is alot better ways to make it easier to identify them as CSX, while having the full scheme

[@danielneeley5480]

It would help if CSX would put horns on their heritage locomotives that matcned what the original railroad had, anything other than k5hl, great work on your reporting sir.

[@SalmanMentos]

If you think about it Painting ¾ of the unit is only bad for railfans and foamers One day my grandma saw a herritage unit and she said "i think they forgot to repaint that train" And also with fully painted herritage units for csx it would be hard to see at night without the big yellow front At least csx paints their herritage units unlike a certain orange railroad

[@user-yb9sr8pp9o]

Very good show, learn something new everytime! Thanks 👍 🚂🙋

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@rashidsamah155]

UP heritage unit that you have found: Katy 1988 North Western 1995 Southern Pacific 1996

[@justinhargett7222]

I just saw a MONON? heritage unit leading a manifest freight from Adamstown MD, North to the Monocacy Junction. Never heard of this former railroad.

[@ChessieKitten]

It's not just about paint jobs on locomotives called heritage units. The history is a REAL thing, and I don't just mean history of locomotives and equipment. The creation of CSX Corp , the parent company of CSX Transportation, is a rich and colorful story. Painting locomotives don't really express history and heritage. Without the story there is no history or heritage, just a paint on a locomotive. I think that not painting the whole locomotive is CSX's way to express the 'X', which was meant to express more than Chessie and Seaboard. No, they may not be accurate, but they are just paint jobs ...and expressing the x in CSX.

[@RailPreserver2K]

They forgot the Georgia railroads logo

[@ArkansasTrainz]

Awesome video V12

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@centredoorplugsthornton4112]

Georgia RR charter included reduced tax rates but no passenger service requirements. Instead, the passenger service became a self fulfilling prophecy that the railroad would be challenged on if it filed to end passenger service. It became an issue when Georgia state regulators saw how downgraded the mainline super mixed had become. Seaboard System took over GARR in 1982 and filed to end all passenger service. Athens branch service ended because there were other ways to reach Athens by rail. The 3 other mixed trains ceased April 1983 and Atlanta-Augusta ran for the last time early May 1983 on a special schedule. The CSX P&LE heritage unit also represents a predecessor line that had its own passenger service apart from Amtrak. It was a commuter train between Pittsburgh and College that came off July 1985.

[@Railfan-uf9mw]

You know I’m sure that BNSF will kick it out in the park if they do actual heritage units next year or in a year or 2

[@railfannerofthenorthwest]

I personally like how CSX did it, if I can't see the number from a CSX unit if it's head on, I can get a suprise when it comes around to me

[@ronaldrondeau7870]

thanks great informations

[@epicness69992]

Fun fact: CSX 1827 actually was painted fully (nose included) in the B&O scheme until a higher up at CSX (i forget their name) demanded it represent CSX more. So the "mullet" HU was born

[@v12productions]

Wonder if someone has a picture of that!

[@nancy8521]

Like the 1943 Hu union pacific its Beautiful

[@RAtheGoodRailfanner_888]

Hey you gotta talk about dash 8s and 9s soon.

[@v12productions]

In the works now! Currently gathering footage of a Dash 8 that's here in ATL.

[@RAtheGoodRailfanner_888]

@@v12productions Yay.

[@jonathanlafferty2271]

I know what's missing. IT'S RAILROAD EMBLEM!

[@bjjt-nu9dx]

Any predictability to operations on the Atlanta-Augusta line? The rails look polished east of Decatur along East Ponce, but I can not recall the last time I saw a train there.

[@v12productions]

Not a whole lot of predictability, unfortunately. There's a local that runs every night. Goes through Decatur around 9PMish.

[@RaisedLetter]

Like CSX has done it so half assed I genuinely wouldn't care if they stopped this program already

[@TheVibesTeam]

@V12 Productions what is your favorite food while watching trains?

[@CumminsDude50]

I no I am not him but probably a milkshake 😊

[@TheVibesTeam]

nice

[@v12productions]

Chick-fil-A probably haha

[@TheVibesTeam]

that's a good one😂😂

[@CumminsDude50]

@@v12productions Sounds great

[@stewarttrains98]

Former csx executive Boychuck is responsible for the csx nose, so i have heard. Even tho he was separated from the company, they are still doing it the same way. While they are nice, im not enthused about them and wont make a special trip trackside to see them.

[@keithmoore5306]

do you have any idea why CSX seems to keep all (for the most part!) their grey hoods down in the south?

[@David-yo5re]

None of their Heritage units are accurate. The front of all of them are painted in CSX's scheme.

[@bowlinerailfan]

None of the Union Pacific heritage units are accurate but I hadn't heard any complaints.

[@western-m1a2]

Just be happy that csx even did heritage units unlike bnsf they have no heritage units Just a heritage sticker unit

[@TheQuebecRailfan]

I think eric really love beans

[@Random_Sh9945]

Honestly it’s better than nothing but out of all the heritages on CSX, conrail is my favorite

[@scottmccloud2894]

The CSX painting program of these heritage units has been "just okay". NS has done a far better job.

[@scouttroopergaming]

Hey, V12 You probably know me cause I have said I am from Georgia to many times, but what is your favorite railroad? Mine is Chessie System

[@v12productions]

Central of Georgia for me.

[@WestonBlake-dw1fq]

bro it doesnt matter how they did them aslong as railfans have something to railfan thats all that matter

[@stevecartafalsa7106]

Even Amtrak paints the front and they are broke financially......just saying

[@aaronl_trains_and_planes]

Eric 💙's Beans

[@user-ff2iz5qc6l]

Another well done video. Now for the whole ‘heritage’ thing. I know I’m going to get negative responses but those CSX units need to have the whole unit painted in the predecessor colors. NS did it right. That big CSX logo and colors takes away from the original heritage design. I made a comment about this on another video and caught flak for my comments. If you know the current operators history you know the railroads that helped make up that railroad, whether CSX, NS, BNSF, UP, CN and now CPKC.

[@PokeZ2014]

30 minute gang 👇

[@alexschmollinger6576]

I wish CSX would of Painted the Whole Locomotive in the CSX Heritage Locomotive Paint Scheme's like the Georgia Railroad, Conrail, Monon RR and the C&EI which isn't a True CSX Railroad Because the Union Pacific Owns a little bit of the Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad I love ❤️ both the NS and Union Pacific Heritage Locomotives More Because Both NS and Union Pacific Painted the Whole Locomotive in Beautiful NS and Union Pacific Heritage Paint Schemes like CNW, Southern Pacific, Western Pacific, Rio Grande and NKP , Conrail, Southern, Virginian Railway and N&W for NS I love ❤️ Watching your NS and CSX Videos 💯💯💯💯❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🩵

[@TheVibesTeam]

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