[v2.2] [OUTDATED] Speculative Thoughts on Sumeru and the Dendro Archon - A Genshin Impact Theory

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Ashikai

Ashikai

2 жыл бұрын

[[NOTE: THIS VIDEO IS VERY OUTDATED but a lot of the information here is still applicable. if you want a more recent speculations video, you can find it here: • [2.8] Kusanali & Sumer... ]]
A preemptive deep (deep) dive into the potential inspirations, real world influences, and plot possibilities of Genshin Impact's next playable nation, Sumeru! Lots of speculating on the Dendro Archon's motives, personality, and abilities, as well as some potential tie ins with the overall plot of Genshin Impact!
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@LeoMPA
@LeoMPA 2 жыл бұрын
Most ppl dont notice but there is more then 2 dendro enemies. Wooden hilichurl and wooden shield Mitachurl are also dendro. The Mita will even throw a dendro slime if you are too far from him.
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Are those technically dendro enemies though? Hmmm... Kind of a gray zone... I'll add the note anyway.
@InfiniteSkiegh
@InfiniteSkiegh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashikai I'd say so. The stone shield mitachurls, I'd assume become stonehide lawachurls, so I'd assume that woodshield mitachurls would become maybe grasshide lawachurls in the future. Probably would have health steal through vines that capture you, like the bubbles...and you burn if there's a pyro enemy to ignite it...*shivers* scary...
@Okipullup6103
@Okipullup6103 2 жыл бұрын
@@InfiniteSkiegh that’s the geo element, bro. They prioritize in crystalizing themselves to form their shield.
@InfiniteSkiegh
@InfiniteSkiegh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Okipullup6103 "they prioritize in crystallizing themselves?" Huh? I don't understand what you're trying to communicate or what that has to do with what I said...I get that Stonehides "power up" creating a geo energy shield, but I'm saying Stoneshield Mitachurls (who use slimes to make their shields) likely become the Stonehide Lawachurls. So it would follow the same line of thought, that the Woodshield Mitachurls (who also use slimes to make their shields) would become something like Grasshide Mitachurls, when they come out.
@Okipullup6103
@Okipullup6103 2 жыл бұрын
@@InfiniteSkiegh I think that has something to do with the dendro element’s ability to form tough materials like weapons and shields. I don’t know...
@yourlocaltrashcan2003
@yourlocaltrashcan2003 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think sumeru might have the best lore from all the hints they have been giving us and the fact that there aren't many too, the only problem is that I hope they don't mess the archon quest just like what they did for Inazuma
@whitecoatwarrior
@whitecoatwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
My money's on fontaine
@Pain-And-Gain
@Pain-And-Gain 2 жыл бұрын
As the video explained and with my understanding, Dendro region is inspired by Persian empire under the rule of Cyrus the Great when he conquered all those countries and stablished local governor for each state, so it would be amazing if they (GI devs) know what to do
@meanangeI
@meanangeI 2 жыл бұрын
wdym they messed with the archon quest in inazuma?
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 2 жыл бұрын
@@meanangeI It was boring and all crammed up. They literally gave the scaramouche plot twist at the end in a piece of bloody dialogue with yae (the end of archon quest conversation)
@itsdomd0misticn00b7
@itsdomd0misticn00b7 2 жыл бұрын
@@meanangeI It was rushed, AND according to the lore itself and the 2.1 official Art created by Mihoyo themselves, you can easily tell that Kokomi was an important character in the story, yet she had less screentime than Sara, Gorou, Yoimiya and Thoma
@sucrosesupremacy4526
@sucrosesupremacy4526 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Lisa will accompany us in the Sumeru archon quest n more of her backstory is revealed!!!!
@teldarin7557
@teldarin7557 2 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps, if she doesn't come directly, we find out some stuff about her past. I mean, there has to be a juicy reason for her power, she is often described as being powerful and how she has potentially traded some of her lifespan for it. Hell, even her constellation's "Tempus Fugit" translation means "time flies", which is another hint to something of that nature. Sumeru will have some awesome connections to previous characters, I can feel it.
@imharis1867
@imharis1867 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt think lisa will accompany us lol 😂 because u know she is lazy 😂🧎‍♂️💖💖💖
@arthimuthukumar870
@arthimuthukumar870 2 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@lip9785
@lip9785 2 жыл бұрын
if she does it might be when they kill her
@sucrosesupremacy4526
@sucrosesupremacy4526 2 жыл бұрын
@@lip9785 I was very relieved when I found out her life being shortened wasn’t canon. There’s still bits n pieces that hind towards it but I hope it doesn’t happen
@Sumi63787
@Sumi63787 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, not sure if you know this, but at the end of his cutscene during the Moonchase Festival, you can talk to Baizhu again and he suspiciously sounds like he was avout to reveal how long he lived but got shushed by Changsheng. More specifically, he talked about the beginning of the history of medicine, as if he was there to witness it...
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds possible. All we know is that the current archon is the youngest at 500 years old (give or take), or after the Cataclysm. The previous archon, the God of the Woods, could easily also be the God of Medicine. It being Baizhu wouldn’t surprised me. Maybe he really was mortally wounded but somehow survived (either someone from Celestia, a being higher than him, or just his unique constitution are all possible scenarios). I also think snakes have been associated with rebirth in many cultures, especially albino ones. Which is what Changsheng is.
@_aryyy
@_aryyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 it's possible that his wound did not kill him but stripped him of his divine powers for good, so maybe he is just living secretly as a human now
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 2 жыл бұрын
@@_aryyy But if so, then he became a human that lived for over 500 years. Assuming former Archons follow human biology and logic, of course, which is very likely false.
@_aryyy
@_aryyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 maybe human was a bad way to phrase it. if it was true i'd assume his body was more like a "vessel" similar to the shoguns or ventis
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201
@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 2 жыл бұрын
@@_aryyy Okay, in that case that makes a lot more sense.
@Chosen1197
@Chosen1197 2 жыл бұрын
It's absurdly ironic that the land of plants and life in the form of dendro, is a desert
@zagiproductions1630
@zagiproductions1630 2 жыл бұрын
An oasis 😉
@xavier6887
@xavier6887 2 жыл бұрын
It’s supposedly half desert and half rainforest
@Chosen1197
@Chosen1197 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavier6887 oh, makes sense
@phroexx
@phroexx 2 жыл бұрын
@@xavier6887 which means some of it has to be savannah right?
@darkzerothe1
@darkzerothe1 2 жыл бұрын
More like very intentional
@YOUTUBEMarten
@YOUTUBEMarten 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly just the fact that dendro will be a new element and is related to a very, VERY, interesting region is a pretty exciting thing. I like these videos, gives us something to think about while waiting for the nation with its elemental alignment literally named tree.
@YOUTUBEMarten
@YOUTUBEMarten 2 жыл бұрын
oh and that point about the irmi-whatever tree it's called, funny you should mention that thing is also a tree, which is the literal translation of dendro
@naufalr.9521
@naufalr.9521 2 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinMarten what language is dendro?
@soufiane4293
@soufiane4293 2 жыл бұрын
@@naufalr.9521 Greek
@beashemmad.sayson545
@beashemmad.sayson545 2 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinMarten irminsul lol
@manjunath414
@manjunath414 2 жыл бұрын
I feel , If We dont get any info from sumeru about the unknown God , then we will probably only find out from dain or when we actually reach the end , So gonna be a long way , Either that or she will be shut up before we can find out , since the Aarchons seem to not be willing to rtalk ,
@AzA609
@AzA609 2 жыл бұрын
Sumeru = Wise Dendro = Element of life 🤔🧐 Khaenri'ah = Too wise Khemia = Creates life
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe sumeru has knowledge about khemia?
@byakumaruZ
@byakumaruZ 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be all too surprised if the land of Sumeru was the same place where Khaen'riah once stood. "Pride of humanity" and "Land not ruled by gods" implies otherwise when you factor in the death of the former dendro archon, but I trust there's more to that.
@ryusawaariel6191
@ryusawaariel6191 2 жыл бұрын
@@xdsmile5359 my take on this i based on the title of Act 3 for Sumeru , "The truth amongs the page of Purana" with Purana based on wikipedia translate literrally to word "ancient, old" i hope in this region we will gain more "Wisdom" on what TRULLY happen on the Cataclysm/Fall of Khaenriah.I hope Sumeru will be the turning point of the Traveler main story based only from that,because it will be a missing oppurtunity to not take the theme of "knowing the truth of the past" from Sumeru and only get in on the final region Snezhnaya
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryusawaariel6191 Yes I hope we to learn more about khaenria and why the gods of Celestia destroyed the nation.
@mitzy8182
@mitzy8182 2 жыл бұрын
@@byakumaruZ Woah. Wait, is there even an actual mention of a former dendro archon? I know there were seven original archons but we don't know their names or anything about them, except for Barbatos, Morax and Baal of course, but I think we only got to learn about them because a)Morax and Barbatos are still alive and b)Baal is still alive too, in a way, through her sister. But can we expect to know as much about the rest of the former archons? There's a key factor about the current dendro archon: they were born 500 years ago, exactly at the same time as The Cataclysm (linked to the destruction of Khaenri'ah) took place, I don't think that's a coincidence. There apparently are so many connections between Khaenri'ah's Khemia and Sumeru's Wisdom and Dendro. Plus there are so many references hinting at the fact the current dendro archon may not be in full control of their government over Sumeru because of their youth and inexperience. What if the current dendro archon was placed by Celestia over the once Khaenri'ah to be reborn as Sumeru and this time, make sure to have control over them? Going back to the seven archons thing, maybe they counted as seven because of Makoto (Baal) and Ei. They are referred to as Twin Gods, and Ei ruled alongside her sister too, from the shadows, but she did after all. And Makoto died during the cataclysm too, maybe not EXACTLY 500 years ago, but around the time that the current dendro archon was born, making them seven again. I think it's interesting how the in-game history is worded about the dendro archon "being born" 500 years ago instead of "taking the place of". I know this is far-fetched and it only needs some information about a former dendro archon and the antiquity of Sumeru to be discarded, but I don't know if such thing is mentioned in-game (if anyone who reads this know please tell me ty).
@Tectone
@Tectone 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this yet, because I save ashikai's videos for the perfect moment to watch because each one is like a special gift to the genshin community :D I hope you keep making more videos for the foreseeable future :D we love you ashi-kun. owo
@sunlightmarc
@sunlightmarc 2 жыл бұрын
POGGERS
@Shezoku
@Shezoku 2 жыл бұрын
HEYY
@UsernameEdits
@UsernameEdits 2 жыл бұрын
stream gang
@thepurified4198
@thepurified4198 2 жыл бұрын
POG
@zokuva
@zokuva 2 жыл бұрын
THAT'S CRAZY eggyW
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
**VIDEO NOTES** - I know Mobius is a Honkai character. I'm mostly using her as a placeholder for Kusanali because I think they have a lot in common and could easily parallel each other. Theorists did something similar with Raiden Mei for the Electro Archon before Inazuma came out. - I did not word this well but it's not confirmed that Baizhu studied in Sumeru. This was a very poorly worded assumption of mine. It was supposed to be more, "Where else would he have studied??" than "He definitely studied here." sort of thing. Sorry about that. - I also need to clarify that when I say "particles" in the beginning of this video, I'm not really using the terms correctly as I'm talking a little less scientific and a little more theoretical. For example, water's smallest "particle" is technically a molecule, while fire's smallest "particle" is technically isn't really a particle but the kinetic energy released during combustion. I didn't have a good blanket term to describe how I was thinking of these things, so I used the term "particle" instead. It doesn't change anything about the theory because fundamentally everything here is either the size of a molecule or smaller, while dendro is still an amalgamation of multiple elemental... "particles" for lack of a better term. Electrcity and Fire are therefore types of raw energy (with cryo being the lack of energy?), while water, earth, and air are chemical compounds (well, earth could be a straight up element ig), while plants/dendro is still kind of the outlier by being made up of all the prior elements. - Fungi aren't plants, I'm aware but I have two arguments to make in terms of them being included within dendro: the first is that dendro appears to be the element of *living* things, primarily plants, and that doesn't completely exclude animals. Second is that there are instances of fungal anomalies that are kind of suggested to be related to the dendro archon, such as the "fungal flood." genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Electro_Abyss_Mage
@Hailstormz
@Hailstormz 2 жыл бұрын
Why was there a re-upload?
@HHH-rf2hv
@HHH-rf2hv 2 жыл бұрын
Cyrus at home: head of Mond adventurer guild
@nomaloney
@nomaloney 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hailstormz copyright claim :'(
@Hailstormz
@Hailstormz 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomaloney Wait, can whoever did it do it again if nothing was changed in the vid? Did she change anything?
@Hibiscus0407
@Hibiscus0407 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hailstormz It was a music claim, she just took it out
@fencerderio9814
@fencerderio9814 2 жыл бұрын
Now that Inazuma is in the rear-view mirror, Dendro as a playable element is imminent. How imminent, though, I cannot say. What I CAN say however is that MHY can’t put it off much longer. After all, they decided to make Sumeru’s after story arc after Inazuma’s. Anyhow, I’d be willing to bet that the Chasm will end up serving as our prelude to Sumeru similarly to how the Golden Apple Archipelago (hereafter referred to as GAA) was prior, but unlike the GAA, the Chasm will be a permanent addition. I’d also be willing to bet that we’ll get two different types of characters prior to Version 3.0. Those being a playable Dendro character (a role that’ll most likely be filled by Baizhu) and a new character that will give us a glimpse into the goings-on in Sumeru similarly to Kazuha did for Inazuma.
@andresvera3763
@andresvera3763 2 жыл бұрын
About the dendro character, there's another one, YaoYao. That we see her in some promotional art (in reality I only see her in one) and being mention by other characters, like xiangling being her master. But she may be become a 4 star due to her design.
@fencerderio9814
@fencerderio9814 2 жыл бұрын
@@andresvera3763 Indeed, there is also Yaoyao. The only reason I didn’t mention her was due to her current lack of an on-screen appearance.
@alicev.3867
@alicev.3867 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear Cyno's name here........*knock *knock hello Cyno are you there? He could be the Albedo of Chasm then Baizhu is the Ningguang of Sumeru....
@cookiemoon7441
@cookiemoon7441 2 жыл бұрын
@@fencerderio9814 i find Yao Yao to be far more likely, since Baizhu has a physical condition which makes it hard for him to just gather herbs so he sends qiqi, i don't think he'd take kindly to adventuring at all. We'd need to have a quest where we help him or smthn first. (Even with the starkeeper Paimon theory, it's unlikely it would be possible since traveler would be mimicking his abilities and by extent his condition.)
@fencerderio9814
@fencerderio9814 2 жыл бұрын
@@cookiemoon7441 So what you’re saying is that they would completely waste a unique character model that SCREAMS “playable” and just keep him as an NPC forever?
@indiaininfographics2910
@indiaininfographics2910 2 жыл бұрын
Also there's a reddit post on this for more connections. 1. Sumeru (सुमेरू) is the 5 Peaked Mountain in Hindu, Jain & Buddhist Cosmology. 2. The name of the official chapter is "Truth from the pages of Purana (पुराण)" which are collection of sacred books in Hinduism. 3. The elemental crystals are named after or related to Hindu Gods/Deities: Vayu (वायु:), Agni (अग्नि), Varuna (वरुण), Prithvi (पृथिवी), Shiva (शिवा), Vajra (वज्र), Naga (नागा). 4. The concept of Yaksha (यक्ष:) also comes from Hindu scriptures which considers them as guardian deities. One of the famous Yaksha being Kubera (aka God of Wealth) and still worshipped today in India by millions of people during the Navratri festival. Maybe we will get to see the Electro Yaksha return in that reigon, he too has 4 arms which are a common iconography in Indian art. 5. The god Kusanali (कुसानाली) mentioned in the dialogues and game lore also comes from the Buddhist scriptures of Kusanali Jataka tales. Also in Japanese dub of the game Yae Miko mentions Kusanali as Kusanali Devi. "Devi" is referred to the female deities in Hinduism to which the male counterpart will be "Deva". There are several categories of gods in Hinduism like Devas, Rudras, Yakshas, Adityas etc. There's often a mistranslation of devas as being "lesser gods" in western academia compared to the trinity of Brahma Vishnu Shiva, but in Hinduism it's more fluid and often get changed based on the devotees of the sect. Hope it helps.
@ok4405
@ok4405 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect info
@arshtone7036
@arshtone7036 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated... This is gold ✌️ The people developing the game and lore are too bigbrained NGL!
@amai8720
@amai8720 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your hardwork tho but no one is gonna listen to us🙁
@ok4405
@ok4405 2 жыл бұрын
@@amai8720 wtf why should some one listen this, the KZbinr liked and 56 people found liked this whats ur point.
@rini9325
@rini9325 2 жыл бұрын
@@ok4405 they mean that a lot of people are in denial that a part of sumeru will be india too. I experienced a lot of racism for mentioning it online
@tox1cya705
@tox1cya705 Жыл бұрын
even after finishing the whole Sumeru archon quest and still exploring the desert, this video is so entertaining!! Bringing this sense of nostalgia for the times when we didn't know what to expect from dendro
@arukadofahrenheit
@arukadofahrenheit 2 жыл бұрын
12:59 Cyno is literally Lisa's mentor's apprentice . He was the one who helped collie to seal away the Archon residue within her So yeah He is soo god damn important ..kinda interested and exited to meet him!
@dweemiesdarkmount
@dweemiesdarkmount 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic, I will be so surprised if Mihoyo manage to hire Tara Strong to voice Lesser Lord Kusanali. Imagine Twilight Sparkle talking to you and being a total egg head while talking the traveler. That would be adorable.
@yukinoarts
@yukinoarts 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHHAH OMGGGG PLS i want to see that happen
@aestheticallypleasing2099
@aestheticallypleasing2099 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just yes.
@deer8913
@deer8913 2 жыл бұрын
I would love that
@phroexx
@phroexx 2 жыл бұрын
You can't tease me like that dude
@Rpground
@Rpground 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, the ONE character that would make me listen to their English lines, cause you know that's going to be good.
@trnavskatreska7491
@trnavskatreska7491 2 жыл бұрын
there is also one thing that is bugging me lately. Do you know how every archon has something similar to slimes? (venti flying like anemo slime, zhongli having shield like geo slime and electro slime having two slimes representing makoto and ei) well dendro slimes hide and throw other small slimes at you. That could mean that the the older archon is hiding and giving ordes or something like that to the younger one. It sounds really interesting to me
@grishmagurung3227
@grishmagurung3227 Жыл бұрын
wow this really makes sense now since the sages forced Kusanali to stay indoors and theoretically (hide). Also, she is the smaller version of Lord Rekhhadevata. Great analyzing!
@kallistiravenhurst5232
@kallistiravenhurst5232 Жыл бұрын
@@grishmagurung3227 bonus: we could argue that the aranara are lesser gods [like the adepti for morax/rex lapis/zongli] serving under the larger god of dendro
@Muricata
@Muricata 2 жыл бұрын
My two cents for what waits us in Sumeru is: some divine being that "guides" the Archon, her, being a jester-esc kind of character, distracting people and being adorable, avoiding research or not teaching how to do it properly (which is why no scholar from Sumeru that we've seen so far has their shit together and is always changing thesis or stuck in one). Also, maybe the previous archon died by Celestia's doing, because they got too close to the truth, and now the new archon is getting close too, the happy "lucky king" is a facade while they try to see a way out of Celestia's grasp (probably voluntarily giving their gnosis away, like Zhongli did, but in a "take this thing away from me" kinda way)
@AkiyamaHaito
@AkiyamaHaito 2 жыл бұрын
Light is probably reserved for the 1019.02 update
@AB-jt4rs
@AB-jt4rs 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, recent leaks suggest that light will be coming out on update 1019.4, update 1019.02 will be childe 69th re-run
@flowereater7132
@flowereater7132 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-jt4rs better start saving if I want Childe. any chance we are going to get an albedo rerun?
@Tart25
@Tart25 2 жыл бұрын
@@flowereater7132 The 64 re run is on version 1019.06 sadly
@zafrylaiman8695
@zafrylaiman8695 2 жыл бұрын
@@flowereater7132 im not sure but they say albedo's rerun is on 2871.6 so i don't know if you have enough time to save
@assil555
@assil555 2 жыл бұрын
@@zafrylaiman8695 and the xiao rerun is said to be coming in the 3275.9 update in 2341 cant wait to get him
@sawyermountain2865
@sawyermountain2865 2 жыл бұрын
If the current dendro archon is a vassel could it be that they took over once their superior died they took over? It aligns with the fact that they might only have power over grass and flowers instead of all plants.
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 2 жыл бұрын
I’d go with that or the idea that she as the current archon is a figurehead while the real archon seeks knowledge in an underground lair or library gaining all of their wisdom and hiding from the public.
@alicev.3867
@alicev.3867 2 жыл бұрын
@@wallyrosario654 I'm all for the double Identity Archon cuz it builds speculations and it drives the suspense aspect of the story but.........Baal already did this alter ego or double archon one facing the people and one doing the eternal shenanigan and I would really hope that Mihoyo would do something different about it..
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicev.3867 I think the double identity thing can work only if played out correctly. Like say for example if Baizhu is the dendro archon who’s retired to Liyue to try to cure his disease leaving Kusanali as the current archon that would be interesting. But I’m worried they’ll rush it or over complicate things with a second double archon plot line after what happened in 2.1
@alicev.3867
@alicev.3867 2 жыл бұрын
@@wallyrosario654 tru tru like Ei's storyline should've fleshed out well but it's compromised just for the sake of the storyline's pacing
@zenithd.8781
@zenithd.8781 2 жыл бұрын
Just throwing it out there, during the main quest in Liyue while the Traveler and Zhongli are going to Dadaupa Gorge to test the noctilucous jade, he mentions a type of wine from Sumeru that's literally called frigid SNAKE wine.
@Hufflepuffalous
@Hufflepuffalous 2 жыл бұрын
Theory: What if Baizhu is the former dendro archon? What if he faked his death and moved to Liyue in order to lay low and study medicine? Could be why he’s so interested in immortality👀
@Dorimefasolatedo
@Dorimefasolatedo 2 жыл бұрын
and adopted qiqi and when she'a no use amymore he will kill him and qiqi actually remember her memory but baizhu remove them everytime so she can't call for help 👀
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dorimefasolatedo when did Qiqi suddenly became him lol
@kristofer6413
@kristofer6413 2 жыл бұрын
According to Viridescent venerer’s Lore the original Dendro archon died in the Cataclysm God of the woods most definitely refers to the dendro archon since Ganyu said they’re also the youngest out of the 7 archons, (btw..if there are ppl who in case don’t know, “cataclysm” refers to the time when Khaen’riah was destroyed 500 years ago)
@Luchafurel
@Luchafurel 2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about it for several patches already. His clothes have dendro symbols everywhere and even a snake scale (?) pattern to his coat. Only archons have such clothes so far. According to Qiqi, his state is worse than her, so basically he is deader than a dead. Snakes are also worshipped in some countries as being a sacred animal (also a symbol of wisdom). Nothing to say about very sus reference in Tears of Themis (another MHY game) about the legend of white snake as well as a character that reminds a bit of Baizhu. I have many points in store tbh, but I still believe Baizhu is ex-dendro archon.
@Hufflepuffalous
@Hufflepuffalous 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luchafurel what if the snake is his familiar? Like Yae is with the Raiden Shogun.
@jspr1te529
@jspr1te529 2 жыл бұрын
This was a much deeper rabbit hole than I expected you to take us down on... I have no regrets going down this rabbit hole
@shijou2867
@shijou2867 2 жыл бұрын
everytime she uploads her theories just blew my mind...
@lionelmarcussolaris2858
@lionelmarcussolaris2858 2 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering why Snakes/snakelike creatures are mostly the enemy of the Archons. Like Osial was obviously a Hydra which can be associated with the Naga or how Orobaxi was a snake God of Watatsumi that supposedly turned "evil" and attacked Inazuma. I don't know about Mondstadt since there's no implications of snakes but the Deep Waters under the Mondstadt City Lake is quite suspicious.
@hennessy378
@hennessy378 2 жыл бұрын
there's also the story of the genesis pearl. we see a snake corrupting the pearl. i think a lot of that has to do with biblical references, as teyvat is heavily based off gnosticism.
@halfwayATfinish
@halfwayATfinish 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, the deep waters under Mondstadt City?
@Muricata
@Muricata 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but we also get Beidou fighting a snake monster and immediately getting a vision for that. Cutting the head just like Baal did with Orobashi. Makes me thing if the vision was a reward for doing literally heaven's work, and that maybe, if the strike was different, the vision rewarded would also be according.
@MJ-zq9zg
@MJ-zq9zg 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe mihoyos just on that snake=evil traun
@goldenarrow7134
@goldenarrow7134 2 жыл бұрын
@@halfwayATfinish yep! mondstat is built on an island inside a deep lake. that serves as its natural defense, with only one entrance in and out. mondstat is similar to a europeon castle city, while liyue is more like a tradestown, and inazuma has been built on a high ground with different levels of ground, providing natural defense
@fakehappymeal
@fakehappymeal 2 жыл бұрын
a little correction: the goddess anahit is actually an armenian deity; nonetheless, she’s related to the iranian goddess named anahita (“a” at the end). in ancient times, armenia and persia shared many religious and cultural ties and had many similarities, some of which were borrowed or inspired from each other; that’s why some might get confused. also, not that related, but the vishaps in the game are also inspired from dragons in armenian mythology.
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it wasn't my intention to reference that one. It's that there's anahit, anahid, anahiti and anahita so I just went with the most neutral name. It's not a correct as it should be...
@fakehappymeal
@fakehappymeal 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashikai im not blaming you! i just thought since there are several interpretations of her, it might confuse many, but the anahit one is armenian, and it won't be surprising if some aspects from armenian mythology would be referenced in sumeru since armenia and iran have been in close contact for thousands of years and have many cultural, religious, and historical ties
@ss11kk
@ss11kk 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I’m armenian and noticed that too
@arwinv9005
@arwinv9005 2 жыл бұрын
@@fakehappymeal are you iranian?!
@samibehi824
@samibehi824 2 жыл бұрын
armenia and iran both were the same country in ancient persian empire...
@henriettasean1511
@henriettasean1511 2 жыл бұрын
And knowing that the dendro archon is repeatedly said to be the youngest archon, only 500 years old currently, means she doesn't only reigned after the cataclysm, but she was born and possibly appointed as the dendro archon at the same time. It mush be such a huge responsibility for her.
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't that mean she has no knowledge about the cataclysm ? and probably supports celestiaa unlike baal and beelzebub
@katzwei_
@katzwei_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe she’s naive but wise at the same time? She is the god of wisdom, so hmm… Or rather her way of wisdom is childish in a way? Then again we have venti that has a facade of a childish person but truly is not one.
@rb.v
@rb.v 2 жыл бұрын
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 this is the god of wisdom, she may be younger but her wisdom shouldn’t be underestimated
@TiaTam
@TiaTam 2 жыл бұрын
It's also possible that she was born only Roughly five hundred years ago Maybe it's closer to 550 But nobody will bother to be THAT specific about it, just like how we don't refer to, say the year 1525, saying "it was 493 years ago" we'd say "it was about 500 years ago" I hope it makes sense
@SgtGrub
@SgtGrub 2 жыл бұрын
I think if there's a Genshin character paralleling Mobius, it's probably more likely to be Rhinedotter than the Dendro archon. There's some crazy parallels between the two, being morally questionable scientists at the end of their respective civilizations, researching extended life, and creating grotesque aberrations of science. That said, I do like the deep dive on the Persian Empire's connections to Sumeru. Baizhu is incredibly sus, and the matching snake iconography is too clear to ignore. I'm really interested to see where they go with all of this
@oturii
@oturii 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea that Cyno is Kusanli's babysitter lmao-
@randomlisteneratyourservic5158
@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird to me since cyno is lisa's mentor's apprentice
@ivyvega5110
@ivyvega5110 2 жыл бұрын
Something that I actually just noticed about Xiao’s design in terms of relations to Sumeru is that the purple mark in the middle of his forehead actually could be reflective of a bindi. Which is a mark that comes from (specifically in the Indian subcontinent) Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain culture.
@Michael-nv5tl
@Michael-nv5tl 2 жыл бұрын
Is Ashikai the true archon of knowledge? On a serious note these videos got me back into Genshin. They are so well researched and polished that they eclipse anything Mihoyo has put out pertaining to Genshin lore. I can't wait to see this channel become huge.
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
Limited knowledge in the scope of a game though. Short life span reduces possible knowledge.
@knightofcarrion7358
@knightofcarrion7358 2 жыл бұрын
8:35 except Ei states that archons do not give the visions out, that it is based on their ambition and a secret we dont know yet. So the dendro archon being inexperienced wouldn't have anything to do with the distribution of dendro visions being limited. heck, raiden was confused and surprised that electro visions haven't been given out recently.
@alattice
@alattice 2 жыл бұрын
this makes me wonder, what if granting visions has something to do with the will of the gnosis holder, like as long as someones ambition matched the gnosis bearer, and the bearer can feed the energy to make a vision, it'll be granted to them, and since (spoiler) yae had the gnosis, the amibition was less matching in ambition, thus less people got a vision (or she just didnt have the energy to feed it?). Might be a stretch, but thats my theory
@mypassport5436
@mypassport5436 2 жыл бұрын
i do think that archons are still responsible for how and why vision bearers get their element albeit unknowingly, like how the lack of new electro visions coincided with the vision hunt decree that took place
@shinyyordle9233
@shinyyordle9233 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe part of the wisdom Kusanali has is on how visions are given, so PROBABLY she could have control over visions distribution
@alattice
@alattice 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinyyordle9233 maybe kusanali can change her will so more (I guess less cause no dendro characters) will obtain a vision 🤔
@shinyyordle9233
@shinyyordle9233 2 жыл бұрын
@@alattice the lack of playable Dendro characters doesn't have anything to do with Dendro characters in general.
@chocolateknife7
@chocolateknife7 2 жыл бұрын
i'm always intrigued by the game's use of weapons with musical motifs which brings me back to the line "light travels faster than sound". What relationship could the twins have with "music". Are they suggesting a time travel plot and that the cataclysm, archon war, and succeeding events in Teyvat are represented as parts of a musical composition? Could it be that the twins have already seen it all since they are light which travels faster than sound and that they are in a time loop trying to fix the events?
@frederikrana2075
@frederikrana2075 2 жыл бұрын
If they are stuck in a Timeloop then the abyss sibling is the one who hold the Knowladge
@JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles
@JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles 2 жыл бұрын
"The terms apparently have similar linguistic roots." Oooh boy that isn't even the half of it. The words deva, daeva, diety, divine, many other words in the languages of india and europe that mean god or demon, and many names of gods, such as Zeus, Jupiter, and Tyr, all ultimately derive from an ancient word that we think was pronounced something like deywos in an ancient language that those languages (including english) all descend from.
@amai8720
@amai8720 2 жыл бұрын
Haha true
@anitakhcreate
@anitakhcreate 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote you a whole paragraph about how Lisa studying in Sumeru reminded me about the book she gave us in her quest, BUT IT GOT DELETED LMAO The book is called “The Pale Princess and the Six Pygmies”, which I think talks about Khaenri’ah, its people, Dainsleif and its cataclysm! I think it has a lot to bring to the table, so much to theorize about, I hope you’ll cover more Genshin books, because they have so much interesting stuff! ❤️
@Zarozian
@Zarozian 2 жыл бұрын
You really dig deep lol. Learned a lot today. Never noticed the pattern between the birds and the snakes until now.
@Zarozian
@Zarozian 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. I remember now. The dragon and the phoenix in Chinese mythology.
@williamppl3624
@williamppl3624 2 жыл бұрын
Little lucky grass king might be the most adorable title ive ever heard 😂
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you brought up Yakshas and how they're not CHINESE based creatures or mythos. They're connected to Buddhism, yes, and that does extend into China, but they're not FROM China. They actually hail from Thailand, and I believe India as well. Thailand they're more of a guardian deity, and a group, but in India (again, I believe, I may be wrong on this particular region) they're more like a demon that consume their victims while they sleep. Through their dreams. Kinda like Succubai, but without the sex (kind've, lol). So imagine my surprise when I heard that Xiao and his other brethren were Yakshas, and not... well... Shishi Dogs or another type of guardian deity in CHINESE Mythology. So, as I said, I'm glad you brought up that for Xiao, because I've been having the same theory that Xiao also isn't originally from Liyue, but I couldn't think up where else he may be from. But with your theory... Sumeru sounds like a plausible, but interesting one. :) Although I will say I'm a bit disappointed you made it out to seem like you dismissed him being a Yaksha, and him being a Gurudo. I believe if Mihoyo wanted to reference him as a different species altogether like that, they would have outright called Xiao and the others "The Gurudo." I like your theory that he may be a reference to that entity Gurudo, but not the dismissal of his original design. I do hope you're right though, in that we'll be seeing more Yakshas in Sumeru. They're interesting, if confusing creatures. :)
@imfromanotherdimension3937
@imfromanotherdimension3937 2 жыл бұрын
genshins mythology is so confusing they dont explain their creatures and not everyone know every culture ;o;
@grishmagurung3227
@grishmagurung3227 Жыл бұрын
a little correction - Buddhism started from the god Gautam Buddha himself who was born in Nepal :) and many monks are from the himalayan regions of Nepal. It is a neighboring country of India. So, yes Budhhism has expanded to India and Tibet as well but theyre not the origin.
@ezrach8269
@ezrach8269 2 жыл бұрын
I think we'll get to see two Archons in Sumeru. Kusanali the Goddess of the Grass representing flora and the god who "died" 500 years ago, the God of Wisdom. "The God of Wisdom's enemy is Wisdom itself" Knowing how wisdom caused the fall of men, he is the first archon to give up his Gnosis, his ties to Celestia. I speculate he either gave the Gnosis to a lesser God, Kusanali, or if Celestia chose another one to ascend. This explains why there is a push for folly since wisdom is placed on the hands of flawed mortals without the guidance of their Archon and the current Archon has no understanding of the true Wisdom sought after by her predecessor so she makes no argument about it. "And the oasis of knowledge is a mirage in the desert of ignorance" I think this is literal. An oasis where the God of Wisdom resides, isolated from the rest of humanity. A place in the middle of an endless looping desert where anyone can get lost, only to find themselves back where they started. I think the Abyss will be the main antagonist of this arc along with the corrupt Sages of the Academia with a dash of Fatui involvement here and there.
@ezrach8269
@ezrach8269 2 жыл бұрын
I also imagine each Dendro user having some form of living creature tied to their story which influenced them having a Dendro Vision. Baizhu with Changsheng and Traveler with Paimon.
@nathan7031
@nathan7031 2 жыл бұрын
On this point: > Knowing how wisdom caused the fall of men, he is the first archon to give up his Gnosis, his ties to Celestia Remember how Albedo and Rhinedottir found an artifact called the "Heart of Naberius"? I think this is a gnosis and in particular, the gnosis of the God of Woods himself (going by your theory). According to Wikipedia (lul), Naberius, "makes men cunning in all arts (and sciences, according to most authors), but especially in rhetoric, speaking with a hoarse voice. He also restores lost dignities and honors, although to Johann Weyer, he procures the loss of them." This fits the Archon of the Nation of Scholars quite well, no? On that note, I want to point to another significant figure in Persian history that could perhaps serve as inspiration to any number of characters in Sumeru. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khosrow_I Dude was THE Philosopher King of the Sassanid dynasty, which again fits quite well for an Archon of the Nation of Scholars lol
@cocoabeanz6171
@cocoabeanz6171 2 жыл бұрын
if the Abyss is the main villain of this arc... FUCKING FINALLY, MY BROTHER HAS SOME ANSWERING TO DO AETHER YOU BETTER FUCKING GIVE ME CONTEXT YOU JUST SAID "fuck dainsleif" AND JUST DIPPED
@jonathanwilson5355
@jonathanwilson5355 2 жыл бұрын
@@cocoabeanz6171 lmaoo I feel that XD I need dem answers Aether! >:)
@diceegg
@diceegg Жыл бұрын
i know you stated that the video is outdated, but you got a lot of things right in it, i'm honestly fascinated. a great video, would be interesting to most of it come to live :D
@carolinaolavarria1701
@carolinaolavarria1701 2 жыл бұрын
GIRLLLLLLLLLL My mind exploded with this and I just wanna say, that I think that the reason Dendro hasn't appeared yet in-game is bc is important to the Sumeru Plot, like when you said that is kinda connected to the Abyss, perhaps it's some-what tainted, or something idk. Loved your video
@ryusawaariel6191
@ryusawaariel6191 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the title of act 3-Sumeru is "the truth among the page of purana", the word "purana" based on litteral translation of wikipedia mean "old,ancient".... That's already enough to confirm for me we will dive more into the lore of tevyat past in Sumeru ( i hope it will bring us the TRUTH of the cataclysm/Fall of Khaenriah),so yeah maybe Sumeru will be the turning point of genshin cause i hope so
@dallNoki
@dallNoki 2 жыл бұрын
As an archeology student I think that Sumeru City might be portraying Egypt under the rule of Rome, more specifically the City of Alexandria. Think the library and school of Alexandria, the last queen of Egypt and so on. But that's just my take 😅
@zenzenitha
@zenzenitha 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sumeru derived from Sumeria, old mesopotamia. not current Egypt but was located around current Iraq & Syria. In different time in Baghdad they also had House of Wisdom , where scholars learn and store their knowledge. You might know this already but anyway knowing how most games mish mash a veeeery wide spectrum of culture as the "dessert" area. I'm guessing they'll add Egypt as base nspiration because it's more well known... and pakistan/India to put some sparkly aesthetic... Well basically the whole middle east/central asia and south asia Especially as for now they already use a lot of hindu terms and Sanskrit names for things related to sumeru.
@dallNoki
@dallNoki 2 жыл бұрын
@@zenzenitha well so far genshin has been very good at keeping their inspirations for nations to a specific country/culture (Liyue is China, Monstadt is Germany and Inazuma is Japan). As you say i think it's more likely they'll pull the general aesthetic and possibly architecture to Egypt, but the points ab ancient Mesopotamia and general hindu cultures is very very cool and i would love to see that portrayed. The reason I said i think the City might be portraying Alexandria is because its arguably the most well known one, mostly for the infamous library. I just think it would be very fitting for the nation of scholars and wisdom. But hey, your points are very valid and makes me even more excited to see what this nation has in store!!
@juska4235
@juska4235 2 жыл бұрын
@@dallNoki monstadtd is not only german, jean is a very french name as far as I know and dandelion knight is supposed to also be dent de lion (french), plus it's literally impossible to be just one we already see cyno Anubis clothes and we already see words like Purana/Devi and we already see persian/arabic names like Hosseini and Anisa
@zerotoanime3953
@zerotoanime3953 2 жыл бұрын
@@zenzenitha thats what i think too
@gandalfthewhite2252
@gandalfthewhite2252 2 жыл бұрын
its agraria country
@Jenity
@Jenity 2 жыл бұрын
If you pay close attention to the Wooden Shield Mitachurls, some time after burning their shields they will pull a dendro slime out of the ground and convert it into a new wooden tower shield. I see it as another hint to the types fun things we get to do with the Dendro element. 🌳🌱
@PositiviteaTheFirst
@PositiviteaTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing to note is that Lesser Lord Kusanali is also known as the Flower God/Flower Archon.
@lily__lotus
@lily__lotus 2 жыл бұрын
not particularly important, but the empire shown at 11:45 doesnt seem to be the persion empire, but rather how alexander the great divided it after conquering it
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! That's true. I should add a note about that actually.
@AmericanViking14
@AmericanViking14 2 жыл бұрын
Re-watching this in anticipation of 3.0, It's gonna be neat to revisit this after Sumeru releases.
@zellane-ology
@zellane-ology 2 жыл бұрын
14:34 I don’t think Cyno’s name would have much to do with Sumeru as a whole but rather it gives insight to his own character. He might be hiding something about himself based on what was stated in the video
@g.s.266
@g.s.266 2 жыл бұрын
The Mobius from hi3 precious era being the archon just reincarnating into different bodies theory aside it also has me thinking "The god of wisdom enemy is wisdom itself" has me thinking if Mobius really is the archon does that mean that the "wisdom" dainslief is reffering to is the knowledge of technology far more advanced and the knowledge of the honkai, we know that giving out knowledge of a more advanced than the era they are it can make the honkai spawn pre-maturely, so I'm thinking that if knowledge is currency it could also be a way for mobius to track the knowledge that people hold and what they are trading as so try and prevent and delay the inevitable eruption that will happen someday
@pastamasta6814
@pastamasta6814 2 жыл бұрын
Mobius for genshin impact
@operafurry
@operafurry 2 жыл бұрын
Please stop trying to connect honkai to genshin, if you even knew basic honkai info, you'd realize THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER
@user-ji5pn3bu5y
@user-ji5pn3bu5y 2 жыл бұрын
@@operafurry ? Eh :o Okay LoL... /nsrs
@g.s.266
@g.s.266 2 жыл бұрын
@@operafurry they literally confirmed Otto looking at dvalin and confirmed it is infact a bubble universe they are connected and you should just stop
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
@Opera Furry No gatekeeping plz. It's kinda silly to get this upset over a placeholder.
@hiddenscorpiusXI
@hiddenscorpiusXI 2 жыл бұрын
I did leave the comment in the community post, but I wouldn't feel okay without posting it in the video anyways. My brain is itching 😵 Excellent video. The part about the Young Archon having little influence on her elements sounds spot on, and all the tidbits and trivia on ancient mythology is fascinating to say the least. Now excuse me, I need a neuron-scratcher.
@AppleCrumbPie1
@AppleCrumbPie1 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how you got me more obsessed with Xiao’s lore but you freakin did!! I loved every tangent in this video!
@Blue-Sky-1707
@Blue-Sky-1707 2 жыл бұрын
0:35 - 1:00 *Science Class Flashbacks* In all seriousness, thank you for the awesome class of Science and History even though these are Genshin Theories.
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
(the videos are just a ruse to convince you that everything you learn in school has a practical application elsewhere)
@danish_z8758
@danish_z8758 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashikai :0
@fitz1050
@fitz1050 2 жыл бұрын
first few seconds into the video and the music gives me flashbacks
@gia_the_gamergirl4130
@gia_the_gamergirl4130 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I miss the Golden Apple Archipelago :(
@AriaMasterofChaldea
@AriaMasterofChaldea 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s possible there may be two gods in Sumeru. One, the Lesser Lord that Yae spoke of and then there is The Dendro Archon that Zhongli speaks of in one of Liyue Chapters. So my theory is that, one, the Lesser Lord could be the one in Ruler Seat and the Dendro archon could be ruling from the shadows. It could also be the other way around 😅 But seriously! I would love to see The Lesser Lord look like Möbius or Klein and The Dendro Archon to look like Su
@faenights
@faenights 2 жыл бұрын
one little correction from someone who grew up in a hindu household; asura are not all purely and indiscriminately evil beings. asura is actually just a race of superhuman beings similar to, say, the oni race in japanese mythology. they do admittedly have more negative connotations, but that's because of a faction among the asura race known as "danavas" (quite literally means demons), who are usually at war with the devas. the other faction in the asura race are know as "adityas" and they're basically the good ones, and are on great terms with the devas as well. in fact, they're apparently led by varun dev (the sky and water deva, more or less lol). varun deva and some other devas are aditya themselves ! so i suppose deva is more like a title rather than a race, or maybe the lines blur somewhere. not so sure about that. most beings like asura, yaksha, deva (i guess ?), bhuta, etc. can certainly be classified into two sections based on which ones are automatically attached to a negative image and which ones to a positive one (and fair enough too, it's usually mostly the case), but at the end of the day they're just different classes/races of beings in hindu mythology. for example, most of lord shiva's close followers are actually bhutas (basically ghosts and all sorts of "malevolent" spirits) ! in fact, a lot of the fancy bougie high class devas and kings and all considered shiva to be too barbaric at first lmaoo like look up the story of how he got married to goddess parvati (previously sati), but i digress. (also fun fact; shiva is the only one who's called "mahadeva" which basically means "great lord". he's also usually called "bhagwan shiva" aka God shiva and only him and lord vishnu (plus their incarnations and all) are usually called that, so yeah. he's a big deal. one of the biggest deals probably lmao). anyway, there's just a lot of content in the mythology and very interesting stories at that, so its sure worth a research. that said, my knowledge mostly comes from my own first-hand exposure to my culture, local folklore and connotations, and my grandma's stories haha so feel free to correct me if any actual academic finds something wrong :] wowz that was long..... i digressed so bad and info-dumped over a small thing, i'm sorry lmaoo
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize! Getting first hand accounts of this kind of this is incredibly helpful!! Thank you! :D
@faenights
@faenights 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashikai glad you found it helpful (✿^‿^) !
@bladefier1954
@bladefier1954 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine all this theory and speculation just too see that sumeru is heavily based on middle east and only 1%from Hinduism 😂😂because as for now all npc name I've come across have Persian /arabic name
@theotakufangirl
@theotakufangirl Жыл бұрын
I came back to this video because of all the sumeru stuff recently.. and.. oh my god. wooooah.. a lot of this just.. hit different now in a good way.
@azealiabanks305
@azealiabanks305 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine Dendro maybe being a buff element, like how Hydro is mostly focused on Healing and Geo is dedicated to defending/shields. Plus, Dendro/Grass requires all the other elements to survive, so in an ironic twist maybe Dendro buffs specific elements?
@Isaactopia
@Isaactopia 2 жыл бұрын
I hope dendro will do some pretty awesome stuff. Black Clover is one of my top favorite animes, two of my favorite anime character are Yami and William Vangeance. Two of my favorite type of magics as well. If Cyno or someone who has a vision that acts similar to world tree magic. I'll be so happy. I'm just waiting for Dendro traveler, hopefully he'll be a healer in that sort then that would be amazing. Electro is cool, Geo is great, which I run as a support when need to be. I'll probably run him as a support for Arataki Itto whenever he comes out. Anemo.....it can swirl stuff kinda.
@AerisAquata
@AerisAquata 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone's already brought this up, but I'm pretty sure the reason we have Dendro as an element is due to it representing Wood, one of the Wuxing (Five Chinese elements).
@kunal4697
@kunal4697 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I luv the speculations n all the great theories u create. But I have been listening to ur audios for sleep aid. Your voice is really soothing n relaxing 😌
@skimmilk8096
@skimmilk8096 2 жыл бұрын
never have I been this early anyway i too have tlbeen trying to figure out how dendro would work it's rlly hard since theres so many types of plants so theres too many possibilities for different abilities for upcoming dendro characters aaaa
@jcpichuts91
@jcpichuts91 2 жыл бұрын
Some thoughts I have, dendro related to plants has to be different in the same way that hydro is different from water. We have established that it's dangerous to drink water from hydro slimes or to wear jewelry with geo energy. Following this train of logic, if ALL plants had dendro, they wouldn't be safe to eat (unless cooking is a reaction enough to make it safe, does all fire contain pyro?? is that why we have to cook salads??)?? And I don't know a ton about the chinese elemental system, but they do have wood based element (with fire, earth, metal, and water) so maybe looking into that might give some ideas of what to expect from dendro?
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to Chinese elemental system. Electro, anemo and cryo does not exist in Chinese elements.
@teldarin7557
@teldarin7557 2 жыл бұрын
I actually was kind of creeped out while rewatching this video today. I used it for backround entertainment while running Genshin's story again on my second account. When you talked about snake iconography being a potential big part of Sumeru, I was once again shocked by the well crafted world building of this game. Because just a few minutes prior, I took our good *old* friend Zhongli on a trip to the Land of Wind to check on the quality of some Jade samples once more. And during our travels, as some of us remember, he praises the high quality of Dandelion Wine. And he does so in direct comparison to Sumeru's "frigid *snake* wine". I can't put into words how much this world has managed to catch me in it's claws of mystery and mythology, it's just amazing.
@doitmyselfentertainmentd.i8835
@doitmyselfentertainmentd.i8835 2 жыл бұрын
even if this isn't what genshin is going for, the different lores are entertaining by themselves, and when u put them together like that is just awesome
@Satoshi__
@Satoshi__ Жыл бұрын
Coming back after sumeru is released feels weird
@Ashikai
@Ashikai Жыл бұрын
Ikr?
@macher2266
@macher2266 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how much you got right or at least close to right, taking how long this vid was released before Sumeru. Still, watching this knowing what we know now is kinda funny , given the wild and wrong guesses you also made hahahaha
@justwannabeyours2649
@justwannabeyours2649 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god ur voice is absolutely soothing
@kouryukami4686
@kouryukami4686 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing ❤️ love your stuff. Your theories are soo intresting and backed by facts as much as possible! It's really interesting and relaxing to watch at the same time!
@vicefamgaming
@vicefamgaming Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how you still got so many things right considering how far Sumeru was when you made this video. I love your content. I listen to your videos whenever I work sort of like podcast. I'm learning so much about the game that I would otherwise not even know while just playing the game. Thank you for your videos.
@OneSlyBastard
@OneSlyBastard 2 жыл бұрын
YAY ITs back! I missed it the first time so im very glad :>
@teddiursoV1
@teddiursoV1 2 жыл бұрын
this was such a genuinely interesting video and im glad i watched all of it, aside from the fact that its on a game that i enjoy, the way you were able to formulate these singular, intricate concepts into this plot which all connects and is easy to understand is truly amazing. it was so captivating and informative not only on the background behind this game but on history too, i feel like i could hear you talk about anything. its crazy considering that this video was made months before the information we have now. this video deserves so much more views. i hope u have a good day !
@touchedme1637
@touchedme1637 2 жыл бұрын
I must say, after being recommended your channel after inazuma 2.1, I am invested. It’s so fascinating that after comparing real life meaning with (what I believed to be) seemingly random elements of random moments in lore and in the open game world, you showed me a) how deep the creators of this game care about their game. And b) the amount you take in when you play a large game like this when most just see a calming pass time. Keep it up. I’m subscribing because I hope to watch more of your brain at work. 💕
@gammrho
@gammrho 2 жыл бұрын
I had my suspicions of the Fatui having the biggest foot hole in Sumeru, but I didn’t think about the Abyss potentially playing a bigger role the as well. Though it should’ve been obvious to me lol given what we still don’t know the specifics of what happened in Khaenri’ah during its fall. I think there’s a chance we might see Dainsleif again in Sumeru. With Hinduism leading the lore helm currently, I think there’s a pantheon of gods residing in Sumeru or at least worshippers? It’s unlikely but it would be neat. I also think some else knows of what happened during the Cataclysm as well as the death of the God of the Woods. They won’t say anything to the Traveler until a certain condition is met? Possibly? Lol again this highly unlikely to happen. I’m just throwing stuff out there. I’m super excited for Sumeru and how things will pan out!
@harshittikka5705
@harshittikka5705 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah LoL like every mess other nation faces isn't that always fatuis fault?😂. I won't be surprised that all the mess happening in sumeru also are the actions of the fatui.
@gammrho
@gammrho 2 жыл бұрын
@@harshittikka5705 LOL I also a feeling the Fatui might have bitten off more than they could chew when the story there rolls around
@randomlisteneratyourservic5158
@randomlisteneratyourservic5158 2 жыл бұрын
@@harshittikka5705 apparently, you're somewhat correct as it was mentioned in the manga that fatui is able to run wild, doing experiments in sumeru. The fact that some fatui are diplomats in sumeru proves that as well
@gremlinby6491
@gremlinby6491 2 жыл бұрын
get the feeling sumeru is gonna be based on the abbasid caliphate, specifically the period of time where the caliph was a figurehead and controlled by the seljuk turks
@ihonestlydontknow7700
@ihonestlydontknow7700 2 жыл бұрын
i think its gonna be a mix between that, and very old iraq/egypt!
@naveengokarla9518
@naveengokarla9518 2 жыл бұрын
All tropic/exotic asian countries I think
@oooceanman
@oooceanman 2 жыл бұрын
My turkish heart rn 💜💜💜
@sipsicle
@sipsicle 2 жыл бұрын
your videos are always so incredibly fascinating, entertaining, captivating, informative and well made. i can't believe you don't have more subscribers, you're the most underrated genshin content creator i know. don't stop doing what you're doing, i love these theories so much and the amount of research they clearly have behind them really shows. im so excited for sumeru and to hear more of your theories to come
@incensious7845
@incensious7845 2 жыл бұрын
i love your videos they really make me think it's just super fun watching these
@tjsan5856
@tjsan5856 2 жыл бұрын
This is the smartest Genshin content I ever encountered. I enjoy this. Thank you! :))
@truesheltopusik1140
@truesheltopusik1140 2 жыл бұрын
Would be really cool imo if the imposter archon was a genius mad scientist type character like Mobius. So I hope ur theory is spot on.
@Ree_DV9
@Ree_DV9 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just catching back up on your videos and all I can say is you never disappoint 👏👏👏
@Bloodybladeboy
@Bloodybladeboy 2 жыл бұрын
You pulled an excellent bait and switch with the abyss in the beginning of the video had me subscribe to you. Can’t wait to see more from your channel (binging you)
@AkiyamaHaito
@AkiyamaHaito 2 жыл бұрын
Only real theorists will know that this got reposted. (I actually saw this suuper late at night yesterday xD)
@ArlunGrim
@ArlunGrim 2 жыл бұрын
Watched it again, and thanks again for recommending my video! I gotta say if they use Mobius for the Dendro Archon, they're really efficient in character designs.
@keefyboi5307
@keefyboi5307 2 жыл бұрын
But its more likely to be Su tho, mobius is a lightning valk
@choking1668
@choking1668 2 жыл бұрын
I love so many of these videos are basically like a science lesson to me. (I feel your one of the few people that bring scientific factors into thought with theories and I love it.)
@jojuna99
@jojuna99 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a well put together video! Thank you for sharing your brain power with the Genshin community! Here from Teccy’s stream😁
@checker7812
@checker7812 2 жыл бұрын
Sumeru's similarities to the Persian Empire brings me back to history class, glad to know that finally has a use xD
@cyprienpineau4362
@cyprienpineau4362 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so nice to watch. I would like to think that the new music event links the anemo element and the dendro element. Indeed we use flowers to repair the lack of elemental energy in the wood zither with glazed lily. And the lyre we got has a windwheel aster pattern on it. Instruments might be dendro constructs that carries information through anemo. Music is compared quite often with bird chirping, which may be linked with the heavenly birds delivering their will/memory through the wind and living being as opposed to the snakes that uses pearls to carry memories. So to me the irmunsul trees aren't linked so much with the dendro they might just be catalyst that commonly uses elemental energy of every kind but dendro kinda bypasses the rules by being a construct of other elements and thus being able to be processed. It feels like dendro is trying to sneak is way into leylines or trying to reclaim something lost. The cave where the zither was found was overrun with weeds but the wood furniture (chair and table if they are indeed made of wood) were untouched. The dendro archon might not be able to reconnect to the wood yet. And she might not be able to "awaken" the sleeping dendro constructs like the wood zither with it's glazed lily's strings to regain knowledge the previous dendro archon left lying around. Tbh i'm just saying things that goes through my mind :) but it kinda makes sense with what is said in the video and my undersanding of the world structure.
@seraphimo6332
@seraphimo6332 2 жыл бұрын
My god you are AMAZING! Every video a new explosion in my mind xD
@themechanic2150
@themechanic2150 2 жыл бұрын
Came to know you via Teccy and now I'm in love with your content. Keep Up the good work miss Ashikai
@feralpossum5730
@feralpossum5730 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this! Big hopes dendro will arrive with the Chasm and Yaoyao soon
@catboyrodeo
@catboyrodeo Жыл бұрын
It's cool rewatching this in 3.6 and seeing that you got a surprising amount of Sumeru information correct!
@randomjuice555
@randomjuice555 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the vid and the Mobius tease at the end. Also The snake vs bird concept is super interesting along with the yaksha.
@Yvon-
@Yvon- 2 жыл бұрын
What an insane deep dive! Loved every second of it. Youve made a new fan!
@KingTv.
@KingTv. 2 жыл бұрын
SHEEEEDH THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT TO WATCH
@samxaveir5463
@samxaveir5463 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's asking When Dendro or Why Dendro but no one is asking How is Dendro
@Natalia-zw7rj
@Natalia-zw7rj 2 жыл бұрын
Your theories are always sooo good.
@r.m.7471
@r.m.7471 2 жыл бұрын
gotta love a new ashikai video to fry my brain. very interesting takes and i've never noticed the bird vs snake thing before. very much looking forward to a video on the yaksha!! i do hope you make one at some point :)
@nilsweersbroolstoryco.1037
@nilsweersbroolstoryco.1037 2 жыл бұрын
Damn... im glad that my addiction to a weird mobile game actually resulted in learning a lot about ancient cultures and folklore... thanks i guess
@matthewwalker5641
@matthewwalker5641 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was awesome to watch after 3.0 you had so many things right! 👏
@HPFireYT
@HPFireYT 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know what to expect when picking this video but this really went down a rabbit hole that I’m happy it went down.
@ravendelacrux
@ravendelacrux 2 жыл бұрын
Blessings upon you, I think you are one step ahead heaven towards other lore vídeo who just follow the game lore, and you just got lots of rl myth references. Makes the videos more enjoyable. Thanks 💚💚💚💀
@Nataninko
@Nataninko 2 жыл бұрын
I think that within Sumeru and Fontaine's archon quests the abyss will be the main Villain I mean Sumeru is the nation of wisdom and Fontaine is the nation of judgement, Fontaine is also the nation that is the furthest advanced in technology as of present times in genshin- both in which are ways to describe Khanrieah at it's prime (I do think that the Raiden puppet and Scaramouche are made using the same technology that Khanrieah used.) There are the links between Sumeru to the Abyss in which you've already pointed out. Now Fontaine, besides being the furthest in technology is also the nation of judgement- thus I think the abyss will play a huge role here. I Imagine the fatui will plot againts us as in a court, saying the bad stuff that we did while the abyss will come and force the archons, including Fontaine's own archon to to be judged by the abyss on the archons' deeds during their whole lifespan. The abyss will probably ask then about the destruction of Khanrieah- that will be what breaks the archons calm as Celestia is watching them though they have to answer (I think it'll be a "you have to answer situation"). I trust that to be the case.
@arshtone7036
@arshtone7036 2 жыл бұрын
Just wow.. I really dig where we are going with these theories. Aaaah can't wait!!
@arshtone7036
@arshtone7036 2 жыл бұрын
After that we fight in natlan . Snehznaya joins and everything explodes. 🤣
@Nataninko
@Nataninko 2 жыл бұрын
@@arshtone7036 It'll probably be way harder for us to get into Senzhnaya though... considering it's the Tsarista's land Pretty sure she'll send all 11 fatui harbingers (after they find a replacement for Signora) to stop us at the entrance, after all right after she gets Murata's gnosis (Pyro archon) the Tsarista will have all gnosis and I doubt she'll want us in.
@harshittikka5705
@harshittikka5705 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nataninko and how are you sure tsaritsa hates us? It wasn't us who killed her Harbinger. If she really is mad she should talk to ei as it was her puppet who killed her and anyway I don't really think she cares that much because as the Dainslief said she is the god with no love left for her people. Who knows when we enter snezhnaya Tsaritsa might try to use us by making her rebellion against the divine
@Nataninko
@Nataninko 2 жыл бұрын
@@harshittikka5705 Why do I think she'll stop us before Snezhnaya? Because she knows that we're somewhat of a threat to her plans Signora is her favourite Harbinger out of the 11 and Signora was sick of seeing us everywhere she goes, so the Tsarista likely feels the same Also she legit sent Scaramouche to kill us once back in Mond, we were only saved by Mona. Is it true that the raiden puppet killed Signora? Yes but we were the ones to defeat her and technically cause her death, so considering that Tsarista sent Scara boy after us, as well as we're partly responsible to Signora's death. Edit: btw don't forget that we challenged Signora to a duel before the throne, which is intended to result in one of us dead- she accepted and Ei/Raiden approved so... (I think a duel before the throne was present in japan but don't catch me by the word cause I'm not that familiar with Japan's history.)
@Mistform
@Mistform Жыл бұрын
I love how much of your predictions fully came true, even if some didn't come to pass
@lainpdaddy3937
@lainpdaddy3937 2 жыл бұрын
Your style of commentary is probably my favorite of all the genshin KZbinrs ive seen so far. Definitely subscribing
@bizzaredemon5758
@bizzaredemon5758 2 жыл бұрын
AAAAA I LOVE UR VIDEOS LIKE I JUST DISCOVERED IT-
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