Valentina Shevchenko: 10-8 Judge Will ‘Live With That Mistake Forever’ | The MMA Hour

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7 ай бұрын

Valentina Shevchenko discusses her split draw with Alexa Grasso at Noche UFC, her reaction to Mike Bell’s 10-8 scorecard, her breakdown of the fight, why she expected a split decision, her injured hand, what she wants next, who should get next title shot, and more.
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@thenotrap1736
@thenotrap1736 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't a mistake, the judge did it intentionally
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 7 ай бұрын
if he wanted to do it intentionally he would have done it for the second round where she actually hurt Shevchenko, giving it a 10-8 and it wouldn't have this much of big deal
@eco_man_8652
@eco_man_8652 7 ай бұрын
​@@Ar1AnX1xAnd When Valentina Had Her Back Alnost Chocking Her Out Should've been a 10-8 also 🤔
@juanrios3537
@juanrios3537 7 ай бұрын
@@eco_man_8652exactly or if we judge it base on mike bell then it would be10-7 complete domination on the ground in that round
@yaniyuhara8165
@yaniyuhara8165 7 ай бұрын
I am inclined to think that. And if that’s what it is, the question is WHY ? Did a judge bet on the outcome of this fight ?
@jacobhutter756
@jacobhutter756 7 ай бұрын
​@@yaniyuhara8165how would Mike Bell know the other judges scorecards ? All 3 would have to somehow be in on it. Or the whole promotion. He would have to know for a fact, the other 2 judges had it 1 alexa and 1 Valentina. If both went 1 way or the other, it would be a majority decision and the 10-8 wouldn't matter at all. The only way it works is if he's stupid or knew/predicted the other 2 scorecards.
@Daniel-us8vk
@Daniel-us8vk 7 ай бұрын
Why is no one telling her the knees were 100% legal?
@juanrios3537
@juanrios3537 7 ай бұрын
One landed in the back of the head not all were legal
@PC-iv5so
@PC-iv5so 7 ай бұрын
When it happened live.. she def. had a full hand down after taking a shot on Grasso. and Grasso kneeing her.. so it wasn't like she was trying to do the "oh let me put my hand down to avoid knees"... the following knees Bullet had her hand down like "hey wth?"... but the first shot coulda def. been called illegal.
@juanrios3537
@juanrios3537 7 ай бұрын
@@PC-iv5so It wasn’t the first shot if I remember one hit her elbow one landed but they iffy about it bien the back or not but one did land I think it was the last one but for me. I felt like more then one landed on the head but camera angles so we know one for sure landed some were clean n some miss n struck her elbow
@christyl5481
@christyl5481 7 ай бұрын
@@juanrios3537I watched the replay on another channel, Valentina was moving. It was not intentional.
@frankthetank819
@frankthetank819 7 ай бұрын
That’s crazy fractured her finger and still won all those rounds she’s a a legend true warrior
@peacethroughstrength172
@peacethroughstrength172 7 ай бұрын
Oh well, VS the great did get dominated in rd 5 and crumbled again just like in fight fight rd 4, kneed across the ring and just couldn't get it done, outworked. Whom has ever done this to VS? Not Amanda, Taila nobody so fools need to get things in perspective here. VS was in trouble alot, did no damage again except for a Fn jab and one elbow, got dropped on her ass and also was tired AF again while AG outworked her and was in far superior conditioning. VS got a "choke" that wasnt in and all she did was exhaust herself while hoping AG would panic, no das. She brings nothing to AG that can submit nor defeat the latter, and if one fights long and often enough theyll meet their kryptonite. VS didnt improve, she merely didnt do a spinning back and was done in rd 5 vice 4. She s too old and stubborn to change and improve. 15 seconds.more and we arent here debating jack, let that sink in. But yea, lets to do it again since AG won 2, 4, 5 in Dec. 3 months and not 6, F that and we will see who is ready. Fools need to take off the glasses and watch the fight again. Semper Fdfelis
@kenneth5064
@kenneth5064 7 ай бұрын
Dominated in rd 5 but was ahead for 3 and a half minutes if the round…you’re biased or know nothing about mma
@frankthetank819
@frankthetank819 7 ай бұрын
@@kenneth5064 wait what? lol better not be talking to me 😂😂😂 you mean Valentina dominated round 5 for 3 mins then grasso tried to submit lmao 🤣 Valentina had round 5 simple don’t know what your talking about bud 🙄
@frankthetank819
@frankthetank819 7 ай бұрын
@@kenneth5064 better go see the eye doctor and get your eyes checked bud lol how come the real mma fans knows Valentina won the fight and she had round 5 3 mins she was dominating until grasso tried a desperate measure 2 mins left in round 5
@etaraz1375
@etaraz1375 7 ай бұрын
Homie what you smoking
@jmac115
@jmac115 7 ай бұрын
I agree, it was definitely 48-47.... Now for which side? That is debatable.
@jamesgarcia6966
@jamesgarcia6966 7 ай бұрын
Grasso
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
Edge to Grasso for being champ
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 7 ай бұрын
@@jorge5275 Maybe you could use algebra instead of emotion.
@doyouevennaturebro4593
@doyouevennaturebro4593 7 ай бұрын
@@jorge5275That’s not a thing. A fight is judged based on what happens in the cage, not on who the champ is.
@johnjaramillo3790
@johnjaramillo3790 7 ай бұрын
Yes and Grasso won…..in the ring, 2,4and 5.
@princestylez8248
@princestylez8248 7 ай бұрын
According to Valentina Mike bells gonna wake up in cold sweats , heavy breathing and heart pounding because of nightmares of ruining her tittle fight
@manuelryzen8052
@manuelryzen8052 7 ай бұрын
lol
@joeyv2083
@joeyv2083 7 ай бұрын
No no no…. SHE’LL live with another disappointment forever 😂😂😂 that judge DGAF about no 10-8 💀💀💀
@corywhitley4573
@corywhitley4573 7 ай бұрын
She said it like the judge killed someone while drunk driving 😆
@MortGoldbergTalent
@MortGoldbergTalent 7 ай бұрын
​@@latenotice7254forget what? I already forgot.
@gregorysiegel987
@gregorysiegel987 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully that judge is never allowed to work again
@kenneth5064
@kenneth5064 7 ай бұрын
Fans of Valentina and Amanda remembers that 2nd fight that Valentina won.
@joeyv2083
@joeyv2083 7 ай бұрын
@@ginovalera4675 would it be funny coming from someone who’s accomplished something in life? Or is this your way of coping through your emotions to make yourself feel better about who you are?
@danheald4743
@danheald4743 7 ай бұрын
Junichiro had the correct score Grasso round 2, 4, and 5
@adrianjamesNEWS
@adrianjamesNEWS 7 ай бұрын
Yup!
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
🤡
@theclawyaww3740
@theclawyaww3740 7 ай бұрын
Valentina will live with the fact that she botched a head and arm throw in a round she was winning to lose the title fight
@monchiscastorena8768
@monchiscastorena8768 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@ishanshawn
@ishanshawn 7 ай бұрын
She did the same mistake in nunes second fight, which may have cost her.
@emptyscience
@emptyscience 7 ай бұрын
How is illegal knee if you hold you 1-2 of your finger tip nails on the mat...She seems so salty lately .... I don't agree with the 10-8 but I was fine with the draw.
@jamanitucker8435
@jamanitucker8435 7 ай бұрын
Cause your weird
@al3xander353
@al3xander353 7 ай бұрын
In most states that is illegal
@kwameasare79
@kwameasare79 7 ай бұрын
U guys let your biase blind u tf ?! U mean salty ? Have yoy ever trained and got ripped off by a coward judge ?
@marcoerbifori8683
@marcoerbifori8683 7 ай бұрын
Fine, but why?
@billymartin6824
@billymartin6824 7 ай бұрын
@@al3xander353 100% incorrect
@cyborg-zl2mc
@cyborg-zl2mc 7 ай бұрын
Ariel is saying he acored it for Valentina 1,3&4 which is fair,but if he interviews Alexa he would be saying he scored it for Alexa 2,4&5😂😂
@godofthisshit
@godofthisshit 7 ай бұрын
@cyborg-zl2mc Are you saying he's two faced?
@pb12661
@pb12661 7 ай бұрын
you could easily make a case for 4-1.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
@@godofthisshit he is 100%
@CmSil3r
@CmSil3r 7 ай бұрын
😂😂
@empressraven
@empressraven 7 ай бұрын
@@jamespaul6315 Yep Ariel is right
@katelyn9182
@katelyn9182 7 ай бұрын
Imagine you are one of the top performers at your job, you consistently perform well and are well respected. Suddenly, your boss tells you you’re only going to get a fraction of your pay this year, because a person who has no idea how you do your job said so, and unfortunately, there’s no way it can be discussed or resolved, you just have to accept it. You’re also ineligible for any bonuses this year. You would think your employer is a joke, wouldn’t you.
@colbymclemore7642
@colbymclemore7642 7 ай бұрын
These judges are actual cowards. Ruining careers and refuse to explain anything.
@jaseallenson316
@jaseallenson316 7 ай бұрын
They are just serving their masters(so yeah coward is a good description). They are in the back pockets of the ufc and the big sports books in vegas. Dont for a second believe when there is a horrible decision(especially in a big fight) that it is due to incompetence. It is corruption.
@diggie9598
@diggie9598 7 ай бұрын
What about nobody's career is ruined?
@eco_man_8652
@eco_man_8652 7 ай бұрын
​@@diggie9598It Ruins Careers You Casual ... Hopefully Something Really Unfair Happens To You , Remember This...
@yaniyuhara8165
@yaniyuhara8165 7 ай бұрын
I think that rules of Nevada Athletic Commission have to change and that judges must explain their thoughts on their score card. They must be accountable for scores they give !
@RobertLofrano
@RobertLofrano 7 ай бұрын
He won't explain, because he doesn't have a logical explanation
@ToDaMaxxx
@ToDaMaxxx 7 ай бұрын
This woman solidified why she is my favorite fighter and why she is the true female GOAT to me.
@richieg6703
@richieg6703 7 ай бұрын
If the judges were trying to rob you, they would have just given the win to Alexa. The entire fight could’ve gone either way.
@mmaart1309
@mmaart1309 7 ай бұрын
No one said that, but still last round should have been 10-9 and valentina would’ve won the fight .. you cant be biased and judge that poorly, u wanna give the round to alexa then do it but don’t exaggerate, cuz valentina won the first 4 minutes of that round and grasso controlled the last 2 minutes how 10-8 is fair?
@69butternut.
@69butternut. 7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t explain a 10-8.
@jboi6398
@jboi6398 7 ай бұрын
she got blatantly robbed with the 10-8, even corrupt judges couldn't give Grasso the win even tho they so badly wanted too
@diggie9598
@diggie9598 7 ай бұрын
@@mmaart1309 ok, great 4 + 2 = 5
@travisgoesthere
@travisgoesthere 7 ай бұрын
Casual entered the chat
@Badankan87
@Badankan87 7 ай бұрын
I don't agree with the 10-8 even for a bit, but imo Alexa won 3 of those rounds :P Could maybe agree with the draw, but Valentina def did'nt win that fight in my eyes. The takedowns should'nt rly matter on the scorecards if she gets "cut off" and can't do anything with them. Even in some of them Alexa actually had more strikes and success from the bottom than Valentina had from the top.
@alcottdevalte7440
@alcottdevalte7440 7 ай бұрын
I actually had Grasson winning round 2, 4 and 5 as well but it was a close one. A trilogy would make sense next. It's a shame that the draw overshadowed how brilliant this fight really was.
@TroubleOnTheWaters
@TroubleOnTheWaters 7 ай бұрын
@@alcottdevalte7440it really was a great fight and I’m glad that it was a main event too. It’s not often that a women’s fight delivers on that level on that kind of stage
@alcottdevalte7440
@alcottdevalte7440 7 ай бұрын
​@@TroubleOnTheWatersFacts. Was surprised that they didn't make it as a co-main event to Adesanya vs Strickland but also understand the Mexican independence day celebration. Nice to see that woman's flyweight division has become the best in woman's MMA, which didn't use to be the case before until recently.
@user-wt4gw2bg6m
@user-wt4gw2bg6m 7 ай бұрын
exactly Bro i’m tired of fighters winning rounds just from control time When they hold onto they opponent and don’t do shi
@rickyrygg7188
@rickyrygg7188 7 ай бұрын
She was fighting with a broken thumb for 4 rounds id say grasso got lucky Valentina couldn't put the pressure she needed to control her, but imo I still think Valentina won
@worldview6218
@worldview6218 7 ай бұрын
She’s being a spoiled brat about this. Literally nobody denies at all that yes it was a little excessive and controversial to have a 10-8 in the 5th but that’s where the controversy ends. Like regardless of whether you believe Val won, or grasso which either is fair most people would think it’s fair to say it’s 2-2 going into the 5th and unfortunately Val fumbled a 5tj round she was winning and ended that round getting teed off on by grasso and then almost choked unconscious so if anything on a LOT of peoples cards she should have lost but it was a draw so I don’t understand where all the crying is coming from. She lost her belt the first time and in a rematch in a super closely contested fight it came out a draw and I think it’s fair because for me personally grasso edged that fight by winning the 5th and then at worst it was a draw. You can’t cry about judges in this sport when you leave it to the judges in a closely contested hard to score fight but at the end of the day she will get her rematch again despite losing one and a draw in the second
@katana_3558
@katana_3558 7 ай бұрын
She won't get rematch
@enriqued8220
@enriqued8220 7 ай бұрын
Exactly well said the fight was as close as it gets so a draw makes perfect sense. The fight was back and forth up until the end. If Valentina is mad she should be mad at herself for dropping the ball in the 5th round.
@Mirici1
@Mirici1 7 ай бұрын
She is totally being a brat because she’s been losing a bunch as of late. Didn’t even rewatch the fight lol by her own admission. The judges “sucking”in close fights is perfect for the sport, motivating for fighters to not leave it to the judges.
@worldview6218
@worldview6218 7 ай бұрын
@@katana_3558 I mean idk, it isn’t as if this division has fresh contenders with a lot of draw potential beating down the door who the ufc is itching to give a shot to. Just look at nunes and pena as a prime example, super fluke win from pena but still, a crazy win and huge upset and in the rematch this fluke was thoroughly corrected by nunes absolutely battering her the entire fight but despite this and despite the fact in just about everyone’s minds even though it’s 1-1, pena being dominated meant we didn’t really need to see a 3rd but they still made the trilogy and it was pena who fumbled that at the end of the day but it still got made so I don’t see why in this scenario they won’t do the rematch outside ofc nobody caring to see it because as much as people wouldn’t care to really see Val grasso 3 I’m sure grasso vs santos would be even less interesting to people so idk, I guess I could be wrong but I think even if Val isn’t immediately given it and they do let another contender get a shot, Val won’t have to fight again and will get a rematch despite being essentially 0-2 against grasso now.
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 7 ай бұрын
Blah, blah, blah. Stop reaching.
@oooG007
@oooG007 7 ай бұрын
Grasso CLEARLY won rounds 245
@joebenson528
@joebenson528 7 ай бұрын
1, 3, 4, 5 Shevchenko Grasso only won the second round because of the "knockdown" which was only caused because she caught Valentina off balance throwing her own hook.
@demetriomaniau9249
@demetriomaniau9249 7 ай бұрын
Not a chance. Valentine won round 1,3,4
@oooG007
@oooG007 7 ай бұрын
@@demetriomaniau9249 LMFAO u obviously didn’t pay attention to the fight 🤦🏻‍♂️🤡
@oooG007
@oooG007 7 ай бұрын
@@joebenson528 LMFAO 🤦🏻‍♂️🤡🤡🤡
@demetriomaniau9249
@demetriomaniau9249 7 ай бұрын
LOL way more than you apparently @@oooG007
@kee7678
@kee7678 7 ай бұрын
Mike Bell " I wanted to give Grasso a 10-7 round..cartels..enough said, and my house in Baja and of course Mexico Indy day "
@manuelryzen8052
@manuelryzen8052 7 ай бұрын
lol the most dumb statement xD
@kee7678
@kee7678 7 ай бұрын
truth hurts I know..but man up son.@@manuelryzen8052
@robertm9490
@robertm9490 7 ай бұрын
Man I feel for Valentina after that fight. But she is a true martial artist to the core! This is all she does. Complete respect to Valentina!
@loudigity0
@loudigity0 7 ай бұрын
Straight gangsterette
@sotolishous9065
@sotolishous9065 7 ай бұрын
😂
@BigSoldiermx
@BigSoldiermx 7 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 7 ай бұрын
@@loudigity0 Just gangster... just gangster already. 🙄
@loudigity0
@loudigity0 7 ай бұрын
@@ccrider3435 gangsterette as in girl gangster
@user-zr2yg5pm2q
@user-zr2yg5pm2q 7 ай бұрын
Control is nothing she says…then we could make an arguement for alexa winning round 3. She did no damage and held on to a submission that failed. Alexa more significant damage.
@bigdawg3989
@bigdawg3989 7 ай бұрын
The unified rules state that a fighter does not need to dominate all five minutes of the round. Grasso nearly ended the fight the same way she did the last if the bell had not stopped it.
@unsub6737
@unsub6737 7 ай бұрын
Didn't Valentina nearly end the fight in the 3rd with a sub on top of winning most of that round. She nearly ended it in that round more than Grasso in the 5th. How come that wasn't a 10-8? Fake news too, bc Val was out of danger when the bell rang & round ended. GTFOH
@bigdawg3989
@bigdawg3989 7 ай бұрын
@@unsub6737 I need to rewatch the fight. I’m pretty sure Grasso escaped that sub. Valentina was still stuck in a neck crank which subbed Conner.
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
None of her subs were close in the 5th and was getting out boxed for 4 minutes. Valentina dominated round 3 for about 3+ minutes and wasn't given a 10-8 by the clown mike bell.
@bigdawg3989
@bigdawg3989 7 ай бұрын
@@alllivesmatter3561 Val ended the fight eating consecutive unanswered punches. Her neck was about to be cranked into oblivion. She didn’t win that fight.
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
@@bigdawg3989 wasn't ever close to a submission. Grasso clearly lost 3-2, and was saved by a clown judge giving a 10-8 round. Stop it.. 🤡
@theguvnor3880
@theguvnor3880 7 ай бұрын
Nobody likes a sore loser. I think a champion shows their true colours in defeat.
@makedislikesgreatagain7682
@makedislikesgreatagain7682 7 ай бұрын
It was a draw though...
@katana_3558
@katana_3558 7 ай бұрын
She always whines when she loses
@LilJeezyLoC
@LilJeezyLoC 7 ай бұрын
@@makedislikesgreatagain7682thats even worse no reason to cry
@Hamzakhawaja
@Hamzakhawaja 7 ай бұрын
@@makedislikesgreatagain7682Thats even worse bro😂 Midshencko got exposed submitted and dropped by alexa lol 😂
@c.henderson6717
@c.henderson6717 7 ай бұрын
Very Well Said!!!!
@shubhamrana3606
@shubhamrana3606 7 ай бұрын
Wow she still won that fight with a Olmost broken arm...respect for the women she's a savage
@alrightgeeze
@alrightgeeze 7 ай бұрын
Valentina: "iz brokez myz thumbz in z zirst roundz" This guy: "Almost broken arm"
@reekhavoc2932
@reekhavoc2932 7 ай бұрын
​@@alrightgeeze😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shmucc
@shmucc 7 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who had Valentina winning the 5th? Those jabs were stinging, and I didn't think the submission attempt was enough to erase the stand up in that round.
@Kaneda870
@Kaneda870 7 ай бұрын
Yes you were the only one sorry
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
​@@Kaneda870no he wasn't. I had it 10-9 round 5 for Valentina. She was out boxing her for 4 minutes of the round. A minute of failed submission attempts that weren't ever close, doesn't win you the round. Sorry.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
Lol some of us have not forgot she was getting tooled by talia santos until she head-butted her, and still had a split decision robbery. Then refused her a rematch
@gibboning-the-globe4750
@gibboning-the-globe4750 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU !!!
@katana_3558
@katana_3558 7 ай бұрын
Well ariel won't talk about that😂
@NoahCanFB
@NoahCanFB 7 ай бұрын
All these simps love her too much to admit that she's on the decline and that the division has caught up to her.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
@@katana_3558 of course he wont, same as he wont ask jorge about sucker punching people in restaurants
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
@@NoahCanFB i dont even think its that. She was good, but simps thought she was untouchable. Even losing to amanda twice, even if you dont think she lost the decision second fight, it was still close enough to go either way. Yet people still act like shes better than amanda who has a better resume overall.
@bernardocisneros4402
@bernardocisneros4402 7 ай бұрын
It was a great fight. It was a very close fight so I"m not surprised it ended up in a draw. I personally think Valentina won the fight. I completely disagree with the 5th round being 10 -8 Grasso.
@empressraven
@empressraven 7 ай бұрын
It was not a draw. That judge gave that score PURPOSELY so that Grasso would be able to keep her belt. If he would have given the right score which was a 10-9, giving the rd to Grasso, Valentina would have won the belt instead of it being a draw. Grasso didn't do enough to win that fight.
@user-gu2ed2ke8s
@user-gu2ed2ke8s 7 ай бұрын
@@empressraven But you can definitely argue that Grasso won 3 rounds. That score card was wrong, but not necessarily the outcome
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
​@@empressravenscoring aside Alexxa still won. Vaneltima brought the fight but she still Fell short. She never even had Alexa in Danger the way she was. Are we gonna act like the Final Bell didn't save her? 🤦
@empressraven
@empressraven 7 ай бұрын
@jorge5275 Valentina didn't fall short. One judge screwed her with a score of 10-8 making the fight a draw. If the correct score was given in rd 5, which was 10-9 to Grasso, Valentina would have won the belt. The judge gave that score purposely so Grasso wouldn't lose the belt and it would be a draw. A 10-8 for rd 5 is disrespectful to both fighters.
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
@@empressraven you don't get it, Besides the bad scoring Valentina didn't do enough to win. She came very close but not ose enough. And she almost got submitted a few times more than Alexxa was.
@chaseorosco9017
@chaseorosco9017 7 ай бұрын
It was a good fight. Let's just be clear here. Val said she was going to show Grasso "no mercy" and that this time she is going to pretty much kill her, no more games, etc., etc. The fact is, even if she did win the decision, that did not happen. Val has met her match in Grasso. She needs to stop pretending like she's the dominant fighter in the women's division who got fluked in the first fight and then screwed in the second. She may be a more well-rounded fighter, but the fact is, Grasso in both fights made Val have to work for that belt. Give the girl respect.
@iriamrivera2018
@iriamrivera2018 7 ай бұрын
Who would treat this woman differently for not having the belt? She's still a champion and a legend in this sport.
@mysterykingCCC
@mysterykingCCC 7 ай бұрын
The losers on twitter
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
Ive never been a fan, her arrogance and inability to be humble and accept defeat. Shes talented for sure, but not someone I can support
@ukishibushi
@ukishibushi 7 ай бұрын
not a champ anymore and certainly not legend level. LOL
@TezH1994
@TezH1994 7 ай бұрын
@@ukishibushihow many title defences has she got and your not calling her a legend sort it out lad
@jessecars2406
@jessecars2406 7 ай бұрын
She treats herself differently without the belt!
@rick-val22
@rick-val22 7 ай бұрын
She wasn't grounded when Alexa gave her the knee strikes. She had one hand and just her fingertips touching the canvas, she has to have her entire hand down, palm and everything.
@kwameasare79
@kwameasare79 7 ай бұрын
U mean to tell me u know better than a fighter ???
@antonioc2017
@antonioc2017 7 ай бұрын
Yes you right. She needs to have weight on those hands and arms on to the canvas
@angelspawn7734
@angelspawn7734 7 ай бұрын
@@kwameasare79lol by your logic that fighters are always right, then the knee that Petr Yan gave to Aljo was completely legal because he thought it was, lmao. You can read the rules for yourself stop being a mindless follower.
@SpyroTek
@SpyroTek 7 ай бұрын
@@kwameasare79Refs know the rules better than the fighters.
@bittmanbobby
@bittmanbobby 7 ай бұрын
A finger down was the old rule. All dumb rules, UFC should have Pride rules so Valentina could have soccer kicked the Mexican like a pinata when she was on the ground
@ThatCarGuy
@ThatCarGuy 7 ай бұрын
The judge who scored round 5 a 10-8 needs to be fired. While it was a close fight and could have been scored 3-2 either way, the 10-8 was just terrible.
@sleepwalkercj3967
@sleepwalkercj3967 7 ай бұрын
This reminds me of how in math class they make us show the teacher the process on how you got the answer to the equation.
@jimjohnes
@jimjohnes 7 ай бұрын
Rounds 1 and 3 were for Valetina and 2 and 5 for Grasso. Round 4 is really close and be given to either. The 10-8 isn’t fair but the draw itself is.
@seanl3164
@seanl3164 7 ай бұрын
False
@rajkhan9643
@rajkhan9643 7 ай бұрын
100%. Grasso should have won 48-47, but with a draw at least Grasso didn't unfairly lose her belt.
@HD-fc4ds
@HD-fc4ds 7 ай бұрын
While all of the focus on 10-8, one judge gave Grasso a clean win...
@konstantinkalashnikov8123
@konstantinkalashnikov8123 7 ай бұрын
I agreed 100%
@MindGamingMantis
@MindGamingMantis 7 ай бұрын
And the other gave Valentina a clean win..? And the judge that gave Grasso a 10-8, had he given Grasso a 10-9 , Grasso would've still lost....
@beamng06
@beamng06 7 ай бұрын
grasso clearly won
@skyedge3407
@skyedge3407 7 ай бұрын
That's why you cant leave it to judges. Everyone will think their favorite fighter won if its close enough.
@workhardplayhard3192
@workhardplayhard3192 7 ай бұрын
So if the last round was a 10-9 to grasso who would of won? 😂 do the maths
@RodRock6133
@RodRock6133 7 ай бұрын
It was a clear draw...and they made the numbers work, pushed Mike to the heat a little
@bigshasta2895
@bigshasta2895 7 ай бұрын
Dana white just said on the DWCS post fight pressor that the rematch is next 💯
@flyingmonke
@flyingmonke 7 ай бұрын
I agree with the draw decision, the round where Alexa got the knockdown should have been the actual 10-8. Being honest, i like Grasso as champ, a lot more charismatic and entertaining
@yagloma2937
@yagloma2937 7 ай бұрын
you can’t count round 2 a 10-8 do you know what 10-8 rounds look like
@enriqued8220
@enriqued8220 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the fight was too back and forth and even in that 5th round Valentina couldve secured the win but instead gives up a dominant position and brings the round into question. No one really imposed their will so a draw is fair.
@jamesprez7296
@jamesprez7296 7 ай бұрын
You thinking a knockdown gives you a 10-8 disqualifies your whole statement. This is not boxing brother.
@stephenglisson4003
@stephenglisson4003 7 ай бұрын
I think it's pretty arrogant of Valentina to say she did so much better than Alexa....because a lot of ppl believe grasso won. It was an extremely close fight could have to Alexa just as easy as Valentina
@adrianjamesNEWS
@adrianjamesNEWS 7 ай бұрын
Thats Valentina for you. She acts like she won 50-45.
@cee1726
@cee1726 7 ай бұрын
Is not arrogant she has a champion mindset most people think Val won Alexa had only 2 moments throughout the whole fight so idk what your crying about
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
Not really close. Clear 48-47 Valentina.
@-activia-
@-activia- 7 ай бұрын
She threw away her victory with the failed head in arm throw at the end of the fight. She will live with that forever.
@antman2960
@antman2960 7 ай бұрын
That would’ve given her 49-46
@cainslawyer8058
@cainslawyer8058 7 ай бұрын
Saltenina not taking any responsibility for shooting a sloppy takedown in the 5th round against Grasso just like she did against Amanda
@jamellponder4434
@jamellponder4434 7 ай бұрын
The fact that she gave a war of that magnitude with an injured finger says a lot about her determination and toughness. Makes me give her the nod even more so in the trilogy.
@milog6101
@milog6101 7 ай бұрын
its an injured FINGER. LMAO what??! you cowards
@mikedelvecchio3193
@mikedelvecchio3193 7 ай бұрын
L Valentina simp
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 7 ай бұрын
@@milog6101 Imagine you losing to Val with her injured hand tied behind her back... lol
@SplattGang
@SplattGang 7 ай бұрын
@@ccrider3435imagine you being so miserably depressed because she lost 🖕🏻😭🖕🏻
@jeffrunyan2691
@jeffrunyan2691 7 ай бұрын
It's called adrenaline
@EazyDuz18
@EazyDuz18 7 ай бұрын
I had Valentina winning 1 and 3 with Grasso winning 2, 4 and 5. Grasso should've won
@coreyydeez3621
@coreyydeez3621 7 ай бұрын
bottom line that 10-8 robbed valentina from the belt inexcusable from mike bell
@EazyDuz18
@EazyDuz18 7 ай бұрын
No, bad judging robbed Grasso of a win@@coreyydeez3621
@marcoerbifori8683
@marcoerbifori8683 7 ай бұрын
4 is a Valentina's round , but I get the point of who thinks Grasso wins it. The real problem is that 10 8 .
@ccrider3435
@ccrider3435 7 ай бұрын
@@marcoerbifori8683 Grasso saved by the Mike Bell. 🙄
@unsub6737
@unsub6737 7 ай бұрын
Independence Day 2: starring UFC champion Valentina Shevchenko
@bittmanbobby
@bittmanbobby 7 ай бұрын
Valentina is the real champ. F Mexico, F Herb Dean and F that judge Mike
@ramonbriones4487
@ramonbriones4487 7 ай бұрын
10-8 was definitely moronic BUT alexa won 3-2 u gotta give it to the champ even if its razor sharp. People have just gravitated towarda that 10-8 but the judges gifted bullet the draw and this is comin from a fan.
@JackGlockyy
@JackGlockyy 7 ай бұрын
Grasso literally got busted open round 4 lol either 3-2 Val or 4-1 Val, Alexa didn’t win at all, wasn’t close💀💀
@jacquesdegauthier
@jacquesdegauthier 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, Shevchenko was lucky to get a draw, if she lost 48-47 as she should have, there would be no talk of a trilogy, but now they might make it
@jacquesdegauthier
@jacquesdegauthier 7 ай бұрын
​@@JackGlockyyShevchenko ate 6 knees, got slammed and got outstruck on that round, Grasso won that round
@cfslim4768
@cfslim4768 7 ай бұрын
@@jacquesdegauthierthe trilogy is so dumb so what if they do the third and grasso losed a split decision they run would have to run it back for a 4th time grasso already won the first won, svencko could not win the rematch end of the story
@prophetnozza4150
@prophetnozza4150 7 ай бұрын
Nah....
@Dashboarddevotions
@Dashboarddevotions 7 ай бұрын
I had it 2-2 going into the 5th.
@RASTAMMA88
@RASTAMMA88 7 ай бұрын
Alexa clearly won 3-2. Put Valentina on her butt #andstill Great performance by Val tho specially at her age
@marcoerbifori8683
@marcoerbifori8683 7 ай бұрын
Clearly?😂😂😂
@auscryptocurrency1162
@auscryptocurrency1162 7 ай бұрын
🤣@@marcoerbifori8683
@andruthru187
@andruthru187 7 ай бұрын
Haha wtf Valentin won for sure
@adrianjamesNEWS
@adrianjamesNEWS 7 ай бұрын
Yes. Alexa is 1-0-1 against Valentina. We should just move on to keep the division going.
@RollWithRichTV
@RollWithRichTV 7 ай бұрын
It was an even fight I thought Valentina edged it by a little 10-8 in the 5th is wild!
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio 7 ай бұрын
Yeez but she didn't win the fight.
@voodjin
@voodjin 7 ай бұрын
@@AlexRubioshe did, since if it were judges correctly, 10-9, she would be the one with the belt.. Grasso got gifted that win, happy Mexican Robbery Day..
@user-wt4gw2bg6m
@user-wt4gw2bg6m 7 ай бұрын
@@voodjinjudged correctly according to who😂 alexa 3-2 bud but a Tie is ok since valentina wants to just hug alexa everyround and got out struck 262-199
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio 7 ай бұрын
@@voodjin oh, stop. She it's up to the challenger to make definite point she won the fight, Valentina got dropped! It's a close fight for sure, but Grasso finished well. Draw is a good choice
@AlexP-dz7ew
@AlexP-dz7ew 7 ай бұрын
@@voodjintechnically, Grasso didn’t win either lol
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 7 ай бұрын
Valentina has a case or even people who had her winning but I disagree that she won. I think Alexa won but that 10-8 is rigged so she would’ve been the rightful winner in that way. I had Grasso 2-4-5
@gibboning-the-globe4750
@gibboning-the-globe4750 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU !!!
@mmacult5336
@mmacult5336 7 ай бұрын
dont let that fool you from the fact that Grasso is still a mexi can
@KrikZ32
@KrikZ32 7 ай бұрын
3-2 either way is an understandable, arguable scorecard
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
Who did the damage in rd 4 is almost certainly the won who should have won based on the judging criteria.
@terrellewilliams2188
@terrellewilliams2188 7 ай бұрын
@@jacksonjacob7791 Val did busted her up but I thought those knees were also nuts and a submission attempt trumps the 2 hard hits Grasso took
@alcottdevalte7440
@alcottdevalte7440 7 ай бұрын
This kid had the potential to become the people's champ and the highest paid woman's MMA fighter of all time, but she never shows any emotional part and connection, is just too hard on herself, never shows the extremely intelligent personality, never shows vulnerability, and etc, which doesn't connect with the fans except for her being arguably the most technical woman's fighter that can be appreciated, and she is superb most of the times. Anyway, she deserves the trilogy because both fights were simply fireworks.
@justenzo7666
@justenzo7666 7 ай бұрын
Have you ever taken the time to think maybe it had a lot to do with her culture, she’s very likable, she’s been a martial artist longer than most fans have been alive, give this woman her respect period, this is the 2nd fight she’s be cheated out of, yet she’s still talking about continuing to fight.
@noicemate9111
@noicemate9111 7 ай бұрын
@@justenzo7666she wasn’t cheated out it was 3-2 Alexa anyway
@markmartinez4127
@markmartinez4127 7 ай бұрын
She is a great fighter but doesn't know how to lose.
@shmucc
@shmucc 7 ай бұрын
Not trying to hate, but this sounds like the comment of someone who's never left the country. Non-native speakers are very literal, and their cultural differences sometimes don't translate well.
@Shaggymann5
@Shaggymann5 7 ай бұрын
@@noicemate9111 oh thats funny... why valentina was on the scorecard on one judge 3-2??? and even on mike bells scorecard she was up after the 4 (3-1) so based on the judges scorecards grasso need a finish going in the 5th but instead somewhow mike bell scores the 5th a 10-8
@Simon-my8pv
@Simon-my8pv 7 ай бұрын
I wonder why she doesn’t use her high kicks more frequently. She is so well rounded. Her takedowns are spectacular. Her cardio is from another planet. She is a goat for sure.
@boogiemonster2038
@boogiemonster2038 7 ай бұрын
Too passive to be a GOAT
@berenizrodriguez8858
@berenizrodriguez8858 7 ай бұрын
A GOAT with no belt ?
@kskid4life
@kskid4life 7 ай бұрын
In a championship fight, if you arnt dominating start to finish then high chances the decision wont be in your favor. The way how she came off before the fight indicated that she was gonna mop the floor with grasso. That didn't happen, so you didn't do enough, all I see now is a bunch of complaining and finger pointing... what better result ? Don't leave it to the judges.
@RcPlayer-tt2vw
@RcPlayer-tt2vw 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t know grasso finished her in first fight ,
@DDM7406
@DDM7406 7 ай бұрын
How dramatic. Live with that mistake forever. I’m sure he’s forgotten already.
@sebastienplantejean7095
@sebastienplantejean7095 7 ай бұрын
She lost loads of money. She lost the title She lost loads of opportunities to make money. She might not get an other rematch because it's "2-0" What is your job? Do you get half your salary if you loose? Do you get less opportunities to make more money? Is your legacy on the line. It's not just a sport. It's her life.
@NoahCanFB
@NoahCanFB 7 ай бұрын
​@@sebastienplantejean7095 she lost the title in the first fight, bud. Alexa was champion
@jimjohnes
@jimjohnes 7 ай бұрын
@@sebastienplantejean7095 Well it all started with her mistake in the first fight. So yeaa she can’t blame anyone but herself for losing the first fight and not doing enough the second fight.
@DDM7406
@DDM7406 7 ай бұрын
@@sebastienplantejean7095 what I mean is, she makes it sound like that judge cares that much about her loss. Almost like the universe spins around her. The dramatization of “he lives with this mortal mistake forever, because I lost”. I’m telling you, that judge isn’t losing any sleep over this.
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
​@@asianconnection7701except ... she didn't lose round 4 at all.
@user-gu2ed2ke8s
@user-gu2ed2ke8s 7 ай бұрын
I mean. I thought Valentina lost. The 10-8 was wrong, but it was still too close to call a robbery. She really dropped the ball in the final minute of the fight
@Laced_out
@Laced_out 7 ай бұрын
She also shot 20 unanswered jabs for the first 4mins of rd 5 she was bringing the fight and control almost the whole fight
@drekuziimusic4546
@drekuziimusic4546 7 ай бұрын
She definitely did not lose- CASUAL. 10-8 round is uncalled for and Valentina is the rightful winner. Grasso won rounds 2 & 5 at best, however, not a 10-8.
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
Round 5 wasn't close to call 10-8 so yes, it was a robbery based on the score cards
@user-gu2ed2ke8s
@user-gu2ed2ke8s 7 ай бұрын
@@Laced_out The way I see it, it came down to the final round. And Grasso was close to submitting her. So it's a tough one to call.
@user-gu2ed2ke8s
@user-gu2ed2ke8s 7 ай бұрын
@@alllivesmatter3561 But I had it 2-2 going into the 5th. I'm not the only one
@gi7685
@gi7685 7 ай бұрын
She really thinks that judge has sleepless nights over a bad call? 🤣🤣
@sdmfp333
@sdmfp333 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@alllivesmatter3561
@alllivesmatter3561 7 ай бұрын
He will since he'll likely never judge a UFC fight again.
@mastermind2173
@mastermind2173 7 ай бұрын
Legendary Valentina. Champion Alexa. What a fight! OG vs new generation. No new without old. No champion without legends. 👏👏👏
@dhungryarchitect
@dhungryarchitect 7 ай бұрын
shes not that old
@mastermind2173
@mastermind2173 7 ай бұрын
@@dhungryarchitect by mileage she is old. Her mileage consider old start training since 5 amateur fight 7 years old and fighting muay thai since 12. She has more than 200 amateur fight in muay thai before turning pro more than 80 fights muay thai /kick-boxing and 28 fights in pro mma. That take a lot of toll of mileage to her body with how many injuries. I know coz i watch her old interview and she came to my country to fight when she was young. 35 with that mileage is old brother.
@dhungryarchitect
@dhungryarchitect 7 ай бұрын
shes not that old@@mastermind2173
@ShaDusK
@ShaDusK 7 ай бұрын
Alexa isnt champion
@rarefingo
@rarefingo 7 ай бұрын
I love Alexa but I honestly thought Valentina edged it, and knowing what I know now.. I respect her even more. Let's get that trilogy going.
@nickster3008
@nickster3008 7 ай бұрын
Thumb broken ? So glad we get to see your honesty Valentina, your a true champ and you did win
@moemiz6850
@moemiz6850 7 ай бұрын
Alexa won, Valentina got lucky with the draw, alexa had more moments and reversed positions and was getting back to her feet. Showed her more looks on grappling, gave her clinches, punched her up.. if Valentina didnt land the cutting elbow, everyone would cllearly see she lost
@jamesmarkham1887
@jamesmarkham1887 7 ай бұрын
But she did land the elbow, and it matters. She also had grasso locked in a submission attempt for a long minute. She’s not lucky, she should have been given the decision.
@xancypillosi9497
@xancypillosi9497 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesmarkham1887yea that round is more of a 10-8
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
​@@jamesmarkham1887you act like Alexxa was gonna let her go if the bell didn't save her😂 Alexxa had her close to a finish in three different occasions The one time Vla had Alexxa she was t even in Danger The camera showed a close up and she was comfortable AF
@moemiz6850
@moemiz6850 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesmarkham1887 rewatch round 4, all that Val did was jab jab, Alexa took her down, got her back, threatened arm submission, then again at end of the round was about to lock in a leg submission, are we watching the same fight ??? Worlds gone Biased, u get it we are all fans of Valentina but cmon, she lost.. I know the last round wasn’t a 10-8 but she won 2,4 and 5 clearly !!! Even DC said it during the round “this is a great round for the champion”
@jamesmarkham1887
@jamesmarkham1887 7 ай бұрын
@@moemiz6850 She did enough to win. The world is right, you are just wrong. Clearly all the videos out by DC,Bisping and chael have all said Val won.
@osiris3895
@osiris3895 7 ай бұрын
I love how Ariel always tries his best to appease the guest lmaooo he’s soooo biased
@sideeggunnecessary
@sideeggunnecessary 7 ай бұрын
Valentina got punched in the face so hard she did a somersalt and then tried to explain to herb dean the rules while getting kneed in the face 😂
@katana_3558
@katana_3558 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@samsonsamuel2993
@samsonsamuel2993 7 ай бұрын
She did a somersault and recovered quick. That’s A level
@TranceHeed
@TranceHeed 7 ай бұрын
She rolled back onto her feet
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
It was kind of impressive how quickly she sprung back to her feet so quickly tbh.
@sideeggunnecessary
@sideeggunnecessary 7 ай бұрын
​@@jacksonjacob7791she was just off balance when hit, im just trollin valentina fans 😂
@J0HNJ0RDAN
@J0HNJ0RDAN 7 ай бұрын
Regardless of who you think won, is it possible that fight cards specifically celebrating a certain country or region, and then are stacked with fighters from that area, are inherently more open to bias than usual? I dunno. But, that 10-8 was evil.
@Steven-jd3ey
@Steven-jd3ey 7 ай бұрын
Yep right on. This happened not to long when jamie mullarky won a decision in australia while he clearly lost the fight.
@Bugin1967
@Bugin1967 7 ай бұрын
Draw was good outcome!
@MrAftermath1241
@MrAftermath1241 7 ай бұрын
Valentina can’t cry. The judges gave her the win over Santos when she clearly lost.
@DL13650
@DL13650 7 ай бұрын
???
@albertog4319
@albertog4319 7 ай бұрын
Santos did zero damage and her submission attempts were never close. I can understand people thinking Grasso won but there is no comparison with the Santos fight.
@prophetnozza4150
@prophetnozza4150 7 ай бұрын
No lol
@MrAftermath1241
@MrAftermath1241 7 ай бұрын
@@albertog4319 Valentina head-butted Santos resulting in an orbital injury which changed the trajectory of the fight ( was accidental but the fact is Santos was winning up till that point.
@lastbestplace8112
@lastbestplace8112 7 ай бұрын
she thinks it was a "mistake"...absolutely deliberate for who knows what reasons
@eric1302
@eric1302 7 ай бұрын
She needs to bite the bullet
@vinnykicks7352
@vinnykicks7352 7 ай бұрын
🤣
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
Im genuinely Happy Alexa is still champ, she won this fight imo
@demetriomaniau9249
@demetriomaniau9249 7 ай бұрын
Not a chance
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
@@demetriomaniau9249 100%. Valentina almost got finished again
@demetriomaniau9249
@demetriomaniau9249 7 ай бұрын
@@jamespaul6315 So did Grasso, She almost got submitted
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 7 ай бұрын
@@demetriomaniau9249 lol no
@ArseneBorz
@ArseneBorz 7 ай бұрын
​@@demetriomaniau9249Valentina almost got submitted multiple times, almost TKO'ed and knocked down
@nicolecontours
@nicolecontours 7 ай бұрын
I rooted for Grasso, and after I saw the robbery, I come back to still give this woman her props, for winning 3 of 2 rounds with one hand. The UFC is despicable for not removing the belt from Grasso. Objectively, they gave the Mexican fighter slated to perform on Mexican Independence weekend a Noche Belt that looked made for her. As a Grasso fan, I can admit, what happened was not the UFCs fault, almost a month later, they have not corrected this error. And it sends a horrible message for MMA.
@OneTequilaTwoTequila
@OneTequilaTwoTequila 7 ай бұрын
Mike Bell made two mistakes. The first was to give Valentina a 10-9 in round 4. Then he tried to correct that by giving her a 10-8. If he hadn't made his first mistake, he would have given Alexa a 10-9 in round 4 and a 10-9 in round 5. Then Alexa would have won the fight. His mistakes actually benefitted Valentina. It saved her from another loss.
@eaglewinnings8003
@eaglewinnings8003 7 ай бұрын
20:00 this is why Ariel is the best in the business. He hosts a show where if he offends a guest he could easily lose them forever (especially a superstar like Shevchenko) but he wasn’t afraid to tell her she was wrong about the knees, something she’s been complaining about non stop since the fight. It’s unbelievable actually that the fight was late Saturday night and by Monday morning, after complaining at the presser, no one on her team, no one in the media and none of her friends told her those knees weren’t illegal even though everyone who watched the fight knows that because Cruz and Cormier mentioned it several times. Give Helwani his flowers
@jayelay9750
@jayelay9750 7 ай бұрын
Very true, but a few of them were actually to the back of the head, which makes them illegal in a different way.
@24-7traumacleaningandbiore3
@24-7traumacleaningandbiore3 7 ай бұрын
jewrani
@eaglewinnings8003
@eaglewinnings8003 7 ай бұрын
@@jayelay9750 she didn’t complain a single one being to the back of the head and if you watch The Weasle’s recap none of them were. She was complaining about knees to a downed opponent
@RonKris
@RonKris 7 ай бұрын
The Judge made a 10-8 round, IN THE FIFTH ROUND!!! IMHO to clinch the fight for Grasso. He knew Shevchenko would win.
@daveydeluxe5788
@daveydeluxe5788 7 ай бұрын
It would be nice if Valentina could lose gracefully, but doesn't look like that will ever happen. With that said, she fought her ass off and left all in the octagon
@alexandraSashY
@alexandraSashY 7 ай бұрын
What does it mean -lose gracefully? Take an unfair judging lying down?
@MMA_MINDS
@MMA_MINDS 7 ай бұрын
She got screwed over bro you’d be mad too if you got screwed over in a dangerous sport you’ve risked your health for, and dedicated your life to training for.
@vhyles
@vhyles 7 ай бұрын
She was a sore loser in the 1st one, she's a sore loser in this one. Do you expect someone to change his personality in a couple of months?
@PC-iv5so
@PC-iv5so 7 ай бұрын
I think he shoulda said he mistakenly wrote an 8. that's how bad it was.. her comments were a bit misplaced. but.. I do think he was heavily influenced by the crowd's reactions to Grasso taking her back near the end of the fight.
@Chris-cz6hn
@Chris-cz6hn 7 ай бұрын
She spends all this time on Mike Bell who scored the fight a Draw, what about Kamijo who actually scored it a Win for Grasso
@reekhavoc2932
@reekhavoc2932 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 right
@Farook3646
@Farook3646 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Ariel on behalf of fans for finding about commission , please continue and let’s all unite and let the judges be more responsible
@John3.16.17
@John3.16.17 7 ай бұрын
Queen 👸🏼 Salty!!!
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 7 ай бұрын
2 of the 3 judges gave rounds 1,3,4 to Valentina. Rd 5 wasn't even competitive. Val jabbed her for 4 minutes straight and had Grasso bleeding all over the place. Grasso has a nice last 60 seconds and gets a 10-8 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤣🤣
@clinch4402
@clinch4402 7 ай бұрын
nope, rd 5 was actually pretty even on striking. 20 to 23. The difference is 1:30 mins of domination on the ground and the sub attempt.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 7 ай бұрын
@@clinch4402 Grasso was still outstruck, even with all the GnP. 4 minutes of control to 1. no question in my eyes. 90% of those shots were blocked, though it was a bad moment; it was too little too late
@clinch4402
@clinch4402 7 ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11 If you like, but that's not what the rules state. Whoever's closer to a finish wins the round. Not a 10-8, but Grasso had it.
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 7 ай бұрын
@@clinch4402 without the 10-8, grasso loses.
@clinch4402
@clinch4402 7 ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11 Not what we were discussing, but sure. Without one of the 10-9s, grasso wins. Dumb game to play.
@albertwalker8994
@albertwalker8994 7 ай бұрын
All the three commentators, and all the MMA aficionados were saying that the fifth round would decide the match. ALL were in agreement that the fight was even after the fourth round, so what exactly is the problem? According to their predictions, and mine, Grasso should have won even without the 10-8 score! And yet no is talking about the same judge having made an earlier error, since he'd scored it 3-1 after the fourth round. His "error" could rightly be regarded as correction for that earlier error. Anyways, Valentina always complains after losing, it's her go to MO.
@MortGoldbergTalent
@MortGoldbergTalent 7 ай бұрын
Amen brotha. 💯 on every point you made.
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
Those people are all part of the UFCs propaganda machine. Those idiots tweeting all even said Valentina could have been up 3-1. Seemed kind of fishy they all had the same unified opinion...
@orgasmicbreathpractitioner6207
@orgasmicbreathpractitioner6207 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@al3xander353
@al3xander353 7 ай бұрын
Valentina won the 4th round because she split grasso open. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a fight get decided by a cut. Idk why it isn’t applied here
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
@@al3xander353 people don't seem to understand the scoring criteria and think they can just ignore the damage Valnetina dished out in the 4th round. It was somewhat competitive aside from that, but when a round is close and one does more damage they clearly get the nod. There is no debating this at all. Valentina did more damage.
@bernardocisneros4402
@bernardocisneros4402 7 ай бұрын
I would respect her a lot more if she sucked it up and said "I have no excuses. Me and Alexa put on a great fight, but unfortunately for me, the judges ruled it a split draw". Instead of wasting energy by blaming the judge, she should be asking what she could've done to finish the fight and not giving decision to judges.
@Tko_Seven
@Tko_Seven 7 ай бұрын
Why she cant try to explain? U get robbed, but dont explain to cops but say, I wont get robbed next time.
@bernardocisneros4402
@bernardocisneros4402 7 ай бұрын
@@Tko_Seven There's a difference between explaining and complaining.
@Tko_Seven
@Tko_Seven 7 ай бұрын
@@bernardocisneros4402 yes. And shes explaining why she is complaining.
@KrikZ32
@KrikZ32 7 ай бұрын
@@bernardocisneros4402 she has a right to explain or complain, nobody thinks the 10-8 was a good or even logical score and it cost her half her pay, a title win, and the damage to her legacy.
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
The judge was an idiot and its incredibly suspicious and inconsistent that he would suddenly aware a 10-8 in the final round. She has a right to speak about it.
@closinginonclosure
@closinginonclosure 7 ай бұрын
26:27 Absolutely no way in hell that's happening lol
@tracyupshaw7862
@tracyupshaw7862 7 ай бұрын
I like Valentina she is the definition of focused and hard working. What is the worst thing about her, is her lack of respect for Grasso. This is disappointing. Both fights have proved That Grasso is no joke. say what you will about who you think won. But lets give respect where respect is due. Grasso is the new champ and she deserves the belt and the respect at minimum from Valentina. that's two fights now that the bullet only grazed the target..
@davidbell4626
@davidbell4626 7 ай бұрын
Alexa Grasso is the female version of Aljamain Sterling.
@user-wt4gw2bg6m
@user-wt4gw2bg6m 7 ай бұрын
@@davidbell4626 i think that’s valentina after fighting grasso since all She wants to do is hold onto grasso every round
@tracyupshaw7862
@tracyupshaw7862 7 ай бұрын
@@davidbell4626 was that a dig on Grasso?? Haha that could be looked at from both sides of the fence
@davidbell4626
@davidbell4626 7 ай бұрын
@@tracyupshaw7862 she's a good fighter that gets no respect just like Aljamain.......
@tracyupshaw7862
@tracyupshaw7862 7 ай бұрын
@@user-wt4gw2bg6m That was her biggest mistake. But if you heard her talk she broke her hand. Her best option was to take it to the ground where she finds success 98% of the time.. unfortunately Grasso got the memo and prepared for all her usual tricks and shut every single one down… Can you imagine how pissed Valentina was…. I can
@a408ridah
@a408ridah 7 ай бұрын
The judges/scoring system will never change. It’s designed like this for a reason, business
@closinginonclosure
@closinginonclosure 7 ай бұрын
2:17 "I could reach out to a..." Why does Ariel do this constantly? At the end of a statement he'll start a word and not finish it. Does it in nearly every interview at least once.
@LilJeezyLoC
@LilJeezyLoC 7 ай бұрын
I think if anyone should be upset about the decision it should be Grasso, I thought she won rds 2,4 and 5 plus Val got knockdown and spun backwards that shows the power of Grasso, Vals time is up the girls caught up to her
@joebenson528
@joebenson528 7 ай бұрын
She rolled backwards to avoid a takedown. She was not hurt from the shot she was off balance throwing her own hook. Watch their feet when they trade hooks, Grasso was set and balanced so she was able to stay up.
@jean20253
@jean20253 7 ай бұрын
​@@joebenson528exactly, clear as day
@onelongwordable
@onelongwordable 7 ай бұрын
​@@joebenson528make sure to rehydrate with Gatorade or something because that's a ton of salty tears flowing from those eyes
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 7 ай бұрын
She did not win round 4. Since her opponent caused more damage simple as that. That is how rounds are scored now. Even 2 of the 3 judges thought Valentina won rd 4.
@jamesprez7296
@jamesprez7296 7 ай бұрын
What does the knockdown have to do with it? Grasso won the 2nd round. You saying her time is up shows that you just don't like her personally and disqualifies your comment.
@HughBlackstone-tm6bw
@HughBlackstone-tm6bw 7 ай бұрын
I love the excuses about her hand. When she was winging massive hooks all over round 2 her hand was broken? Yeah right. And was her hand broken the first fight too? She got outboxed. It's this narcissism that keeps her from improving.
@DANIEL_eltravieso
@DANIEL_eltravieso 7 ай бұрын
💯
@gibboning-the-globe4750
@gibboning-the-globe4750 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree !!! And the post fight interview, salty af !!!
@rocchi5706
@rocchi5706 7 ай бұрын
She has a lot of excuses and is salty but it’s just a fighters spirit to win. Grasso 2-4-5 though
@makedislikesgreatagain7682
@makedislikesgreatagain7682 7 ай бұрын
Val 4-1. You're uneducated new UFC fans and only care about grasso's feet video
@rocchi5706
@rocchi5706 7 ай бұрын
@@makedislikesgreatagain7682 why just stop at 4? Might as well do 5-0 Valentina by domination 😂
@PC-iv5so
@PC-iv5so 7 ай бұрын
She did wobble Grasso once in the 5th.. 3:55 even the commentators missed it.. she hit her with a good shot and Grasso tried to shake it off but you could see her balance was off.
@sdmfp333
@sdmfp333 7 ай бұрын
Grasso dropped her, your point is?
@PC-iv5so
@PC-iv5so 7 ай бұрын
@@sdmfp333 Not in the 5th.. (all 3 judges scored the 2nd round to Grasso where the flash knockdown happened) I'm not going to explain further because you can't read or understand basic context (Grasso got a 10-8 score in the 5th)
@MrJustincharles15
@MrJustincharles15 7 ай бұрын
You get these results when you leave it to the judges score cards...all the time
@bryanramirez7257
@bryanramirez7257 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t want to believe chael when he Called Valentina a “heel” can’t deny it anymore
@getemdetric60
@getemdetric60 7 ай бұрын
Always believe Unc
@mega00760
@mega00760 7 ай бұрын
@@getemdetric60 or your own hearing
@travisgoesthere
@travisgoesthere 7 ай бұрын
He said she should turn heel, Gomer. He never said she was one. In fact he said its probably too late now. Not too bright are you?
@twistedsd
@twistedsd 7 ай бұрын
​@@travisgoesthere Its sarcasm
@jeffeldredge1608
@jeffeldredge1608 7 ай бұрын
Poor sports should not be around longer than necessary. She did just enough to gain a draw. She didyknock the champ down once. The champ did knock her across the octagon. She fought to a draw. Thats what she got. What is the old saying again??? Oh yeah. NEVER LEAVE IT IN THE JUDGES HANDS. She did enough to draw. UFC should have a rule that takes a championship fight into a sixth round. So we don’t have to listen to poor sports complain. You lost, Val. Damn. Nothing will change no matter how much you kick and scream. You lost. Fight better next time.
@louisdlariviere3824
@louisdlariviere3824 7 ай бұрын
Great take, Valentina lost before the fight started, she’s a heel, fake personality
@jeffeldredge1608
@jeffeldredge1608 7 ай бұрын
@@louisdlariviere3824 lost before the fight started? Grasso cheated somehow? In what way, poor sport.
@LaChinita1019
@LaChinita1019 7 ай бұрын
We need to investigate the judges that gave Shevchenko the 4th that's was pure BS.
@SpookyRedz
@SpookyRedz 7 ай бұрын
Don’t forget it was a DRAW Ariel , Ariel asks the questions very well
@emmanueldiaz6096
@emmanueldiaz6096 7 ай бұрын
Shevchenko clearly lost round 5 and didn’t dominate any rounds 1-4.. you gotta dethrone the champ 👑 to be champ; Valentina did NOT do that
@makedislikesgreatagain7682
@makedislikesgreatagain7682 7 ай бұрын
UFC gifted grasso that win cause they need Mexican representation and just crafted that goofy looking belt. Val 4-1 and she won the 5th. 4-1
@katana_3558
@katana_3558 7 ай бұрын
​@@makedislikesgreatagain7682so true..earth is flat too
@Hamzakhawaja
@Hamzakhawaja 7 ай бұрын
@@makedislikesgreatagain7682LMAOO . Alexa 3-2 , keep coping buddy. who has the belt? MIDshencko is washed and is the GOAT of making excuses
@JackGlockyy
@JackGlockyy 7 ай бұрын
@@HamzakhawajaAlexa will lose the belt within a year lol, Tatiana’s daughter
@Hamzakhawaja
@Hamzakhawaja 7 ай бұрын
@@JackGlockyy Isnt that what they said about aljo and then he beat everyone lol😂 but yeah i can deff see the grapplers like tatiana and blanch field winning but no one beats her in the striking
@Surfboard927
@Surfboard927 7 ай бұрын
She should congratulate Alexa and move on, or maybe someone should give her some cheese with that whine.
@foggy561
@foggy561 7 ай бұрын
Mike Bell made Vegas a ton of money and saved the UFC a $532k win bonus they didn't have to payout to Valentina. He wont be going anywhere with score cards like that
@SYN30STM
@SYN30STM 7 ай бұрын
The person that made Yair's belt did Alexa belt. Why didnt Ariel ask Volk why didnt he get a customer belt like Yair? Valentina needs to go for that 135 belt.
@TranceHeed
@TranceHeed 7 ай бұрын
People hating on her because she’s speaking out facts are away with it
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname 7 ай бұрын
She gets a lot of love too. Deservedly so. She is a very direct person always. People shouldn't hold that against her
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
Scoring aside Alexxa still won
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname 7 ай бұрын
@@jorge5275 how did you see it?
@jorge5275
@jorge5275 7 ай бұрын
@@knowsmebyname possibly 48-47 for Alexa
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname 7 ай бұрын
@@jorge5275 and you feel Alexa won 3 rounds? Well you are not alone. You are in the miniority but not alone.
@jinjerjunkie
@jinjerjunkie 7 ай бұрын
While its true that she was not a down during those knees but 2-3 of those knees were clearly to the back of the head.
@akatzzki
@akatzzki 7 ай бұрын
Valentina is so well spoken
@theironforce3000
@theironforce3000 7 ай бұрын
Despite the results of the current situation of her outcome, the way she carries her self as a whole , are the traits of a TRUE champ. She stuck around for the post fight inty with DC. Then walked out of the arena greeting, signing merch and taking pics with the fans and still went/ stayed for the entire postfight presser.. And now Monday, she's still doing full lenght interviews with AH! Meanwhile, 2 weeks later, Izzy hasn't said a damn word after getting smoked by Mr. 1st Amendment, Strickland! No updates on his YT channel, IG, or on anyone else's. Completely taking the Ronda Rousey path. Hard to respect 'champs' like that. In any case, a triology rematch with Grasso is the move to do next sometime in Jan. '24~ By the record, no one officially won. For if they bang again, and Grasso loses, it may take the Figgy/Moreno route . Lets see what unfolds in coming month/s.
@xQnKx
@xQnKx 7 ай бұрын
She’s not gonna be back by January w a broken finger. Prob march-june.
@yaniyuhara8165
@yaniyuhara8165 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you !
@mikeJohnson-ie2md
@mikeJohnson-ie2md 7 ай бұрын
Draw and loss affect you differently. Also, she is whining about draw and whined after her losses to Amanda. Praising her reactions seems biased.
@xQnKx
@xQnKx 7 ай бұрын
@@mikeJohnson-ie2md is she whining or making very valid points and speaking her truth?? Everything she said was logical. She said she broke her thumb on her power hand(which def can be enough to alter the course of the fight seeing that you can’t hold grips as hard, close your fist as hard when punching), she said that 10-8 in the 5th was insane, and she said that she felt robbed…all very valid and logical. She’s not complaining. She’s stating what happened.
@allankesatie
@allankesatie 7 ай бұрын
​@@mikeJohnson-ie2mdshe was also bitter about the loss to Alexa in the first fight when she said she was winning the whole fight before getting choked 😅
@pokemonovice9758
@pokemonovice9758 7 ай бұрын
29:00 Says the woman that got TWO title shots with just 6 fights in the UFC.... Grasso had to fight more than 10 times to get a single title shot
@albertog4319
@albertog4319 7 ай бұрын
Valentina stepped in on short notice to fight Sarah Kaufman who was a former title challenger. Then she fought Amanda and after that close fight she beat Holly and Julianna. Alexa was losing fights against straweights. Put some respect on Valentina's name.
@benjihoebruh
@benjihoebruh 7 ай бұрын
A third fight is a must throw the 2nd fight away, when youre barley winning a fight anything can happen you cant blame the judges you have to show the judges that youre worthy of the win
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