Valerion VisionMaster 4K Projectors Brings Hollywood to Your home in Incredible Style!

[@allthingstech]

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[@kelownatechkid]

3D Blu-ray is the killer feature of this projector without a doubt.

[@GokuInstinct1]

Is there a way to buy 3D movies digitally? Instead of the physical 3d Blu ray

[@iglapsu88]

Sounds like a very nice projector. What has been holding us back on some of these is the need for very expensive screens. With this one, it's nice to have an option for use on a regular screen. Great review. Thanks again. Love your content.

[@allthingstech]

@@iglapsu88 thanks for watching, it is a really impressive projector

[@simyim]

are you saying that if we're just going to be using a plain wall as our screen, you don't need to get the pro2?

[@chrisgraunke9269]

I am very curious about the max, now. Those images look incredible.

[@dbambrick996]

Great review as always, thanks , I was about to purchase a benq w2710 but now I am strongly considering this, even the lower price plus 2 looks excellent

[@LangerFeen]

What is the $80 screen from Amazon. Can you pls provide a link ?

[@backupproducer]

Great review. But how can you skip the most important aspect. Distance of the projector and does it have to be on the ceiling or floor or in the middle of the room on the table with cables hanging etc. not all of us have a theater room and most likely will be using it in the living room.

[@ІгорСвіт]

Thank you for your review. Was hesitating between this one and N1S Ultimate, but it seems that blacks are better on Valerion and the price difference is tangible, so will be looking forward to receive mine in December.

[@JonnyMoto]

I didn't see any option for the $50 deposit but I rarely use kickstarter, Maybe I'm just missing it. Perhaps I missed the short window you like you mentioned. I'm also seeing the prices are a bit higher than what was shown in this video, perhaps that's because I missed the deposit benefits? Either way, I might go for the Max despite having to wait until May 2025

[@gillesdelbecq4452]

I am worried about\ kickstarter . Check the terms and conditions. No commitment to get a projector .

[@davemils8910]

Hi are you going to ne doing a review of the leica cine play 1? Im interested to see how this cimpares to the valerions

[@iriscrocus1717]

What screen from Amazon did you use.

[@tbob2224]

Any noticeable laser speckle on that ALR screen?

[@allthingstech]

Not the slightest sign of it

[@donsimpsonshead8809]

So does it require an ALR screen or could you use a standard screen?

[@adearthical]

It's all just one big speckle.

[@3483maverick]

You can use a standard screen but an ALR will give you a much better picture.

[@reggydavis]

How does this compare to the epson 5050ub?

[@RodrigoBottieri]

What about the sound | speakers when compared to similar projectors? Better, worse, the same? Particularly interested in a better/worse comparison to Harman Kardon Xgimi Horizon 2x8w speakers

[@leeemmerson3127]

NO ONE CARES ABOUT PROJECTOR SPEAKERS

[@antoniobiffaro2418]

Thanks for the review. I assume you have done some measurements; Is it possible, please, to have some data, in particular regarding the contrast?

[@nelsons151]

I asked the same thing. If it uses a .47 DMD chip how can that native contrast be possible? So tired of companies exaggerating claims.

[@ZackCrain]

id love to see this vs like a JVC NZ800 to see how far apart they are

[@engseong857]

Thank you for the review. Since the contrast ratio of the projector is one of its touted advantages, did you specifically observe its performance with content, and if you did, did you feel it has one of the best if not the best contrast of all other projectors that you’ve tested? What other projectors had better contrast, if any?

[@allthingstech]

This is easily one of the best, there are others that are also great and the perceived contrast can seem better than the reported number due to the increased brightness, the AWOL 3000 and 3500 pro for instance. Formovie theatre has great contrast but reduced brightness and only 60Hz

[@colinire15]

Could you comment on the 3D capabilites of this projector especially if there are any 'crossover' issues? Thanks

[@michaelkao2094]

How's its ability to handle dark scenes? Is it comparable with class leading models like Epson LS12000 or 5050UB?

[@Jdvc-yd5tx]

This really rocks the boat. It raises the question Would SONY, Apple or Tesla be 'allowed' to sell products on kickstarter? Where does one draw the line?

[@trogoautoegocrat666]

Phillips has already. It must be a new type of project, and at small numbers. Not sure it fits with the MO of the big boys. I’ve bought 3 short throw projectors from Phillip there.

[@Foxhound11]

Can you use other sources like the Nvidia Shield with this projector when running hdmi input into an AV receiver, instead using the valerion built in google tv. Valerion set up should be the same as any projector

[@dennisbhamilton]

Can it pass-through HD audio?

[@nelsons151]

Thanks for the review. Did you test the native contrast ratio and was it actually 4000:1 with a regular screen? Does this use a .47 DMD chip? If it does how can it hit those numbers??? Is the lan port gigabit? Thx!

[@Pedr4m]

12:08 It doesn't actually have 4k 144Hz. The internal hardware can technically do that, but the laser light system can only do 4k 60Hz so that's a bit of a misleading spec.

[@nikolasjohnson3549]

Do these let you watch Blu-Ray 4k movies?

[@whitecrowuk575]

Question - noticed brightness is given in iso lumens - which if I’m not mistaken is less than ansi lumens in real world - so 3000 iso < 3000 ansi - so is brightness noticeably lower than AWOL 3000 or quite similar? Also what screen size is that at 5:50?

[@ramonlach1195]

3000 ISO is higher then 3000 ansi

[@cgott42]

Thx, what is the physical dimensions length, height and depth of the proj?

[@Avaiyang]

Which screen are you using? Can you use the same UST ALR screen for this long throw projector since it is not ceiling mounted?

[@integra8502]

How does this compare to other projectors like Epson's and JVC's

[@mosesr255]

Can you post the dimensions and mounting option (eg 4 point ceiling mount etc)? It's not on the website, thanks 🙏

[@davidtaveras31]

Is the brightness noticeable between this and the aura 2? How does the picture quality and contrast compare between the 2? Which one do you like better?

[@jpbonadio]

The main selling point of this projector is it's EBL (Enhanced Black Level) function, which make it go from an already impressive 4000:1 native contrast to 15000:1 dynamic contrast, but it seems like you did your whole review with EBL turned off.

[@allthingstech]

There were scenes with it both on and off

[@wogielufc]

Hi as always great presentation. How does this projector compare to the jmgo n1s

[@allthingstech]

I’ll try and do a side by side comparison next week

[@Pssybart]

@@allthingstech I'm looking forward to that as well. I'm thinking of getting myself a projector this year. And I'd really like to see this compared to the XGIMI S Max and Hisense C2 as well. I might just donate to the kickstarter of the Valerion if it's worth it.

[@Xfireworksonline]

The master vs the jmgo ultimate? Any thoughts on which is better? Ultimate has a good bit more brightness but maybe the max has better contrast?

[@mymusic5772]

What is the power consumption of the max projector

[@sorsiva]

Great review! Just wondering is this as bright as the new JMGO N1S Ultimate? Which do you prefer? Or is it worth waiting for the N3? Thanks again!!

[@APTechs]

Great review mate.

[@bejoycs]

How does this compare to xgimi horizon s max in terms of contrast, sharpness and color accuracy

[@jenyamakavelli]

Hi, should I swap my Samsung Premiere (single laser LSP7) for a Valerion VisionMaster Pro 2? Is it worth it? Thanks!

[@tibortatrai2318]

I would go for the c2 ultra at $2400 so even cheaper than this one.I have no idea which would really win but Hisense’s warranty is reliable.

[@adammrsi3124]

do you think its better than the Dangbei DBOX02?

[@MarioLopez-gh7zi]

It is safe to buy this projector at kickstarter?

[@dubscee6472]

I have a BenQ HT5550, and I do not know how the specs relate. Would the PRO 2 be a significant difference/upgrade? I mean from looking at HT5550 it says 100,000:1 Contrast with brightness of 1800 lumens. But it's also a pixel shift 4k so not native. Please advise.

[@DigitalPlaygroundTV]

Is this projector better than the JMGO N1 Ultimate?

[@a.s.5280]

what is the largest possible canvas size you can fill up with the VisionMasterMax at a dinstance around 11 feet?

[@allthingstech]

Not 100% sure but I had it fill my 132” screen from around 9ft

[@Jelle_87]

Thank you for the nice review! Does the game mode still allow you to use keystone?

[@brothamane8747]

Wishing great things for Valerion. If these projectors live up to the specs and hype they will surely disrupt the projector market in a good way. Too bad we have to wait until May 2025 for the Vision Master Max. BTW Valerion, no horizontal lens shift?! That's the only thing this particular model seems to be lacking; otherwise, everything else spec-wise is on point for a dlp projector.

[@flujan6824]

What are the best screens to use with these types of projectors?

[@allthingstech]

I was using a grey ALR and was still impressed but a matt white would probably be brighter

[@antoniovarela9557]

what happens if the position of the projector is 5 m 50 from the screen can we use the optical zoom but also the digital to fill a screen of 2 m 80 base, will the image quality still be there will not be too much loss on the sides of the screen? Thank you

[@appdata007]

How does it compare with formvie theatre 🎭🎉❤....will u recommend this over theatre ...

[@allthingstech]

@@appdata007 they are very different one long throw the other UST I think the sharpness and brightness is better on this.

[@allthingstech]

Formovie is improve but this has far higher brightness and better contrast. The FM is also only 60Hz so this is far superior for gamers.

[@appdata007]

@@allthingstech thank u ,,I ordered through ur link 🔗.. Love from india 🇮🇳🙏😊♥️

[@RyanKong-h2i]

The VisionMaster Max's vertical lens shift is only at 100% up or down? i.e. no in betweens?

[@allthingstech]

@@RyanKong-h2i I haven’t seen it yet but I believe that is the total range and therefore adjustable to various just like the optical zoom

[@bryanp4827]

It's + / - 100%...

[@byrontse73]

will this projector look good on the AWOL 120" screen Floor rising screen you have (the Cinematic plus alr)?

[@allthingstech]

The screens used in this video were both ALR so I don’t think there will be any issues with the screen you have.

[@rob9019]

hello, great video. do you have the projector completely centered? I don't the usual light bleed around the image present normally (especially after keystone).

[@allthingstech]

@@rob9019 It was fairly central but the light bleed is pretty good unless at a really wide angle

[@juniorniebles6048]

Do you have to place this projector directly in front of the screen or can you be on the sides like other lifestyle projectors

[@allthingstech]

It has automatic keystone so can be off at an angle

[@marc202i]

Thanks for the review Q: on the keystone correction, optical and digital zoom In your video, you adjusted optical zoom to focus light source closer to your screen, and then, what i think, you adjusted digital zoom ? to perfectly fitt to the screen? It looks like there is no keystone shadow (light bleed)... is that correct?

[@allthingstech]

Almost none visible at all. Was some noticeable when projecting from an angle.

[@marc202i]

@allthingstech Thanks for the reply, I actually put my deposit on it. I can't wait until December 😉

[@davidwatchesyoutube247]

What’s better - this or Horizon Ultra???

[@mr.johnwick8565]

Wow awesome review thx👍👍 did you see any kind of Rainbow Effect? Lovely greetings

[@allthingstech]

No, you don’t normally get this on laser projectors more common on DLP

[@mr.johnwick8565]

Great thank you for your fast answer🫶 greetings from switzerland

[@tbob2224]

@@allthingstech This is a DLP projector. All single chip DLP's are prone to Rainbow Effect.

[@allthingstech]

@@tbob2224 no lamp though

[@tbob2224]

@@allthingstech Doesn't matter. The lasers modulate very much the same way a color wheel does in a lamp based DLP projector. Smarthomehookup has good videos covering RBE in various projectors including triple laser units similar to this one. That being said the triple laser units generally show less RBE compared to lower end lamp based projectors (usually equivalent to a 6x color wheel or better). The only way to get away from RBE is by moving to three DLP chips only seen in ultra high end units.

[@ramonlach1195]

if you have to compare the valerion with the formovie theatre in terms of picture quality how would you rate it

[@allthingstech]

Without having them side by side it’s tricky but this would edge it in my opinion

[@Dem4enkoff]

wow! first time watching your video, impressive quality of presentation of material! I'm lost in doubts, to take this or wait for Max, lens shift is not interesting, but dynamic iris - sounds promising, and what do you think?

[@allthingstech]

Thanks for watching, I can understand the dilemma, it’s difficult for me to have a view as I’ve not seen the Max yet. The Pro 2 is seriously impressive the opening scenes of this video with EBL turned on was so good.

[@Dem4enkoff]

@@allthingstech Have you seen Hisense c2 ultra? It has a similar mode - brightness dynamic. The hardware is similar, it would be interesting to see a comparison.

[@sanjhaigopinath]

I am planning to get valerion visionmaster and use it with a floor stand due it weight of 7.5 kg unable find a good floor stand any suggestions?

[@Fiztex553]

Why not order their stand? It's in options.

[@sanjhaigopinath]

Look for something which is single pole with wide base, there stand is tripod type utilise lot of space

[@JLobma-k7c]

What type of screen are you using in the beginning? Is that an ALR screen? the picture looks great on it. I need to decide which screen type to buy

[@allthingstech]

Yes its an ALR but the projector was positioned fairly low, if you were to ceiling mount then the ALR technology wouldn't work as well so it may be a little dimmer, ideal positioning would be straight on on lower.

[@JLobma-k7c]

@@allthingstech I can position it pretty much in the middle of the screen. Which screen is that? How much gain does it have. It would be exactly what I am looking for. The other question is if the dynamic iris is worth waiting until May25 or if I rather take the Pro2...

[@allthingstech]

@@JLobma-k7c 0.6 gain its from VAVA. With regard to the Max, honest answer is I'm not sure as I haven't seen it yet. For me the vertical lens shift is irrelevant but the Dynamic Iris might be. However saying that I have been really impressed with the Pro2

[@whitecrowuk575]

@@allthingstechwhat is dynamic iris?

[@vpst00]

This vs Hisense c2 Ultra? I would hate to have to wait until the Max is released in May 2025 if the Hisense has comparable picture and refresh rate , I believe the Hisense will be released in early October. I do like the gimble that the Hisense has, as well as the 20 w speaker for bass.

[@SnakeDoctor5104]

My dilemma also. Valerion Max specs look better, mainly the contrast ratio, so I'm going with it. Not to mention the kickstarter price will likely make it slightly cheaper than the Hisense C2 Ultra, all while being the more expensive one. Plus if it is anything like Awol's UST projectors, it will be excellent. They know what they are doing. Hisense C2 comes to market in a week or so, so reviews should be plentiful. Jmgo N1s Ultimate is another I was considering, but decided not to, due to lack of optical zoom.

[@jpbonadio]

@@SnakeDoctor5104 Valerion Max and Pro 2 has the same native and dynamic contrast. What Max has that the Pro doesn't is the Iris and Vertical Lens Shift.

[@SnakeDoctor5104]

@jpbonadio Yah. I want both of those features. Makes set up easier, with no picture degradation, due to keystone and blacks will be better. For $100 difference, why not?

[@jpbonadio]

@@SnakeDoctor5104 The issue is the wait. The Max model will only start to be delivered in May 2025.

[@SnakeDoctor5104]

@jpbonadio I hear yah. I'm good with the wait. Been waiting some years now, for a suitable upgrade. My Epson 5030ub with Darbee, is still serving me well.

[@sage11x]

I think there are a few erroneous claims in this review. IMAX enhanced will not gain you access to different aspect ratios or IMAX specific content. IMAX enhanced is a lot like the old THX certified label. It’s marketing that says the product meets some specific performance targets set by imax and ultimately means nothing. I would also question the color gamut coverage/accuracy of these models. A lot of these makes are making some pretty bold claims about color accuracy that don’t actually end of being true in any form or fashion. I did see you throw up a cie 1931 chart at one point. Did you measure that or was that provided by the company?

[@danielfoster4217]

Check out the hook up on youtube. He does indepth video of the vision master pro 2 and alot of the other best 4k projector out today

[@CKT213]

Does this have Dolby Atmos?

[@mendez77054ify]

Watch the video again

[@CKT213]

Given the average speakers, this should have had Dolby Atmos

[@bryanp4827]

When these things hit Australian shores, I'll be saying goodbye to my disappointing Benq w4000i...

[@thamburajakrishnamoorthy3752]

Waiting for xgimi horizon s max and s pro review

[@allthingstech]

@@thamburajakrishnamoorthy3752 S Max comes out later today!

[@whitecrowuk575]

Word of warning to new kickstarter “customers”: -there is no guarantee you will receive anything

[@gokuultrainstinct2294]

Can you use KZbin Tv?

[@allthingstech]

Yes, it has full Google TV built in so all the apps are there.

[@Victor-i4g4u]

As always with dip chips

[@lambrosh4072]

in evry serious Home CImena Keystone it is strictly forbidden because the sharpness is affected!

[@southerncomfortUK74]

Any rainbow effects, those of us that suffer from it need to know, thanks

[@bamlin52]

This might upset some people but I bought the Aurzen Boom 3 projector and cheap £275.00 with 3 years warranty. Ok it's not 4k but the picture quality is very natural where 4k for me is not . For the compared price the Aurzen Boom 3 specification you get a lot for your money. This is just my view.

[@OmarAmroussy]

what about HDR and eARC? it is a masive difference

[@DigitalDreammss]

cool

[@jkl89966]

Compare to Hisense vidda c2 ultra

[@tibortatrai2318]

No question there.C2 Ultra all day long.

[@jkl89966]

@@tibortatrai2318 how can you tell or why?

[@jkl89966]

@@tibortatrai2318 can you explain