Valhalla Rising (& Gravity review) (Welcome To The Basement)

[@whiplashfilms]

That said... Craig's Shai Labeouf meltdown was epic.

[@daniel787]

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[@beareggers]

It might be worth mentioning that the chief god in Nordic paganism, Odin, is often easily recognized by having only one eye. Which adds a lot to the question of One-Eye's connection to the supernatural.

[@jaomello]

That is a very valid point.

[@drdement1]

One-Eye is Odin (he put one eye in a pond of wisdom to see all), who is the all-father of nordic mytology and also a god of death. He joins the christians, just as the viking used to slowly merge the old ways and the christian traditions (think christmass, a former pagan celebration now celebrating the birth of Jesus). As they travel through the mist, it becomes more and more clear that one-eye is a foreign element, and the christians become more and more scared/angry with him. As they try to "claim the land in the name of god", they eventually end in a struggle with them selves and the natives (the crusades leading to internal strife and war wigth everyone else), that only leads to death and destuction for all. One-eye has to sacrifice himself for the boy, who is the hope and humanity, so that he may survive, and he (who is now a remnant of the old ways) is taken away by the natives - who are basicly nature and the way of things and time. They catch up to everyone, and they really have no face (they all look alike) and no voice. So the old religion dies and give way to new things. The only thing that survives is a small glimmer of hope and humanity (the boy). Anyway, thats my thoughts on the movie. Also, it typical Refn, with the long quiet shots, the vague and suggested themes. As for movies I hate: Skyline. Worst crap I've ever seen.

[@blamesocietyfilms]

Good analysis. We did briefly discuss the ocular similarities between One-Eye and Odin, but it got cut (no pun intended).

[@KevinLieber]

Welcome to the Basement continues to be my favorite show on KZbin.

[@MooCartoon]

YAAAY! Shout out to Halifax, Nova Scotia!! Also, loved Craig's rant there. Twas brilliant to watch.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

10 seconds into the video Craig says there's no gravity in space, this is incorrect gravity is everywhere, even in space anything that has mass generates gravity, though the gravitational pull weakens with distance from earth, it's never truly zero. When astronauts are orbiting earth they are actually falling sideways while also falling towards the earth, this is what creates an orbit and generates the feeling of weightlessness.

[@gravityvertigo13579]

For the benefit of interested viewers; Valhalla Rising is on Netflix right now, as is Morvern Callar!

[@illustriouschin]

thanks buddy.

[@nachofantastico]

Nice ranting about Indy IV and Shia LaBeouf ;D really enjoyable stuff

[@sarasak86]

I love these shows so much!

[@puppysect]

Holy crap, Craig is unlocking his SCANNER-talents!

[@kennylamorena6339]

I WANT MY OPERA HOUSE!!

[@SusanMiles]

excellent show, gentlemen. i really liked valhalla rising (think i even asked about it for seen it), glad y'all took it on. also, craig-rage, wow! keep up the good work. :D

[@stuartpe-win2757]

Saw this in an auditorium full of babies with my own newborn. The lack of sleep and burdened with my nappy bag, it made for a very tense viewing.

[@VeraReduxion]

Oh, btw Craig, Shia is going to be in a movie with Mikkelson. I think it's called The Necessary Death of Charlie Countryman (where Shia gets beat up by Mads).

[@BlackCowBoy]

Have you see "Alter Ego"? New Indie movie that has all the elements that I love about movies. One location, Superheroes and Comedy...

[@nothankyou7775]

The holidays are quickly approaching, so I think you should watch A Christmas Tale with Catherine Deneuve. Though it is no Beethoven's Christmas Adventure, it is certainly worth a viewing

[@atvats]

Have you guys seen Mindjackers? That's a movie which is full of tension! The cast I think didn't have any popular people in it but they still acted perfectly! This movie is overloaded with plot twists, it had a sequence where the person you thought was the villain kept swapping back and forth for a while.The writing was pretty decent had a Saw like feel to it only with having Jigsaw being among the victims. P.S. The movie is very violent!

[@gentleargiope]

And thanks for the Lou Reed tribute, Matt. xo

[@shirokumak]

The Shia Leboeuf (sp) rant is still just so beautiful.

[@Blueshirt38]

I was the 11,111th viewer. That isn't special, or extraordinary in any way, I just like numbers, and that made me kinda happy.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

you guys should watch Vikings (tv series) and Erik the Viking. That is some great A stuff!

[@EchoesOfAncients]

I really enjoyed Vikings. Gabriel Byrne and Donal Logue were great in it.

[@Ramatganski]

Odin, god of war, wisdom and prophecy had one eye (he sacrificed an eye to gain wisdom of the ages). One-eye is very likely Odin.

[@CaptChrispy]

Gravity is a synonym of tension. Because of that and the lack of gravity was the reason they named it that.

[@Slann88]

Craig I also can't stand Shia, however I think he turned out a decent performance in Lawless. The only film I've ever vaguely liked him in. Love Valhalla Rising, myself and a friend watched it and drew many of the same conclusions about it's themes of religion and hell!

[@jessecatrainham6957]

I think the ending suggests that One Eye chooses the time and manner of his death. Like the Christian men before, now he is in the position of one who brings foreign ways and foreign gods to another's land and home. He sets an example by deciding that doing no harm there, respecting their home, and laying down his life freely so not to undermine their culture, is the noble thing to do. They are not "more primitive;" rather, they are spiritual kindred to the heathens: at last he meets a death which he deems worthy, at the hands of warriors he can respect.

[@the-four-seven]

Just wanted to say I love the show, and I look forward to seeing it every time a new episode appears. You two are a great team; dare I say, like a modern Siskel & Ebert? Or Ebert & Roeper if you prefer? I know you've already shot the next episode so you'll have moved on from the topic of "our most hated movies," but hey, what else is a comments section for if not to discuss? Growing up watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 has sort of built up an immunity to bad cinema in me, or has at least given me the ability to make bad movies tolerable by having fun with how bad they are. But one movie proved impervious to any of my attempts to make it fun, and that movie was Rob Zombie's Halloween remake. It takes away the mystery and menace of Michael Myers by turning the one scene where he's a child in the original into half the damn movie, and the entire thing is filled with people you don't give a damn about because they're all awful, amoral human garbage. By the end, it's devolved into a lot of running around and high-pitched screaming so irritating I actually yelled out loud at the movie to just shut up and _end_, already. I was in such a bad mood after seeing it that I avoided watching movies for a while. I realize that there are far, far worse films out there, like Salò, A Serbian Film, Cannibal Holocaust, and others, but since I've heard, read, and seen enough about those movies, I know to avoid seeing them in the first place. I didn't have that luxury with Halloween so it just sticks out as worse to me.

[@jasonterschak5065]

Thank you for saying how I feel about Shia LaBouf.

[@kimnovak2]

Yes! one of my favorite films! Mads Mikkelsen is fantastic

[@GrimGearheart]

Also, Craig, watch Lawless with Shia in it. Good movie.

[@runningohfive]

The Last Airbender will forever be in my, what I like to call, Hall of The Damned. Goddamn it, M Night!

[@hoondog100]

I recomend watching the new Hannibal series with Mads, he is stone cold awesome!!!

[@23Belligerent]

I've seen Valhalla Rising and I liked it. I always imagined they died on the boat and upon reaching the new land started their arrival in hell. As far as One Eye goes, I always pondered how he knew they were in fresh water. He just picks up the cup and knew for a fact they were no longer in salt. Maybe it could be due to the smell or he knew they were approaching hell? The way Craig feels about Shia is the way I feel about Ashton Kutcher CANNOT stand that guy. He's just one of those people I want to smack in the mouth every time I see him. Forgettable movies: World War Z, most people I talked to enjoyed it or loved it. Me? I don't even remember anything about it.

[@jibranmarsden6566]

My favourite movie, have you seen Sion Soto's Love Exposure?

[@alphabassist]

I love Shia. You can't hate him just because he was in shitty movies. Watch some of his newer movies. He's actually an incredible actor. Nymphomaniac is the last thing I saw him in.

[@83croissant]

Time Travel Romances! I thought I was the only one -- so did you like the Korean film"il Mare" or its American remake The Lake House?

[@Bladecharge]

You guys did starship trooper I gota see that.

[@Fu345]

One-Eye reminded me of Odin (who also has only one eye).

[@cJw314]

temp tatts on the face ftmfw ; well done, guys. :D

[@sharpie443]

One eye = the god odin. he has one eye, sees the future, kills everyone he works for. Sounds like odin to me.

[@thekingofprussia7]

Wow I've actually seen this movie, and I would have to agree with Craig it was very visually pleasing but the storytelling was a little lacking.

[@HankCarver]

I think I own the shirt that Matt is wearing.

[@kevindorn2508]

One of the great mysteries.. why isnt this show more popular? I blame the algorithm. Shame on you!

[@coldbeans1997]

Have you guys seen Sweet Sixteen is a very good film

[@AtticusTsaiMcCarthy]

i like shia in transformers 1 and holes, and he was fine in the wall street movie.

[@ScottKorin]

Craig, there IS gravity in space. That's why orbits exist.

[@corbelius6]

I had to go back and see this episode for Craigs Shai Labeouf meltdown because I was of the same opinion as Craig until I saw Fury and I was like, OK that's one. Then I saw The peanut butter Falcon and then Honeyboy and Godammit He's good. So now he has 3 great films and those are the only reason I don't hate him as much.

[@CaptChrispy]

I strongly agree about Shia Leboeuf but I think you were kinda sposed to hate him in Indiana Jones.

[@leradoms]

Matt yelling into the camera was very titillating

[@creekstar7]

Oh, c'mon, Craig. Shia was good in Even Stevens, too! XD

[@evilgn0me]

Lawless. Getting to watch Shia LaBeouf get the shit kicked out of him for 2 hours. Such a great film

[@ignorantpom]

Love Madds but this is one of his weaker movies IMO. The Hunt, A Royal Affair and After the Wedding are brilliant.

[@BeastOfTraal]

I nominate Low Saturation for the hall of fame

[@evanrickard2037]

Well shit... I dint know ladykillers was a remake and i liked it

[@MrSandpaperCondom]

Have you seen Pool Hall Junkies, or Boondock Saints? For some reason people love these movies, I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I freaking hate them both. P.S. Totally agree with Craig with regards to Shea LeBouf. Also The new Indian Jones infuriates me just by mention as well, and the only other movies that trigger the same reaction in me are the Newer Star Wars movies. For me it ruined the whole franchise and I even find it difficult to watch the originals at times. I guess I hope Abrams can redeem them, but I also barely even care anymore.

[@scubastevedammit7]

You should mention Shia Labeef in every episode from now on just we can see Craig lose it

[@CerberusLives]

Finally, someone whose hatred of Shia LaBeouf matches my own. His popularity is utterly inexplicable to my mind, just the sight of his vacant, rodent face is enough to make me grit my teeth in frustration.

[@RedStrayHound]

That rant was amazing. Thank you Craig.

[@claytoncondo3460]

RedStrayHound 100% right man .

[@TheAtari7800Junkie]

In addition to the Welcome to the Basement Hall of Fame, you guys should have a Hall of Shame with the actors you guys don't like, starting with Shia LaBouf

[@racheluncles8790]

Greatest rant I've ever seen

[@BlaiddDrwg896]

I absolutely love Craig's reaction to Shia LeBouf. I feel exactly the same way about him. I hated that he was in Indiana Jones. The vitriol and energy of your rant perfectly captures my feelings.

[@pattimus]

Looking good, Mr. Sloan :) Holy bananas, I loved the pants off of Craig's epic Shia LaBeouf rant....which is potentially awkward as rants don't typically wear pants.... Such a magnificent eruption of anger, absolute GOLD :) Thank you for another wonderful episode guys :) *too many smiley faces in this comment

[@askorath]

Haha Craig should rage more often, that was glorious.

[@Shmandalf]

I don't really like Shia either, but to be fair he was pretty good in Fury.

[@wmckin11]

I really hate the Nightmare Before Christmas. I know lots of people love it, but I just don't see why!

[@thorigrimm]

I'm with you 100% Craig, about Shia. I thoroughly cannot enjoy the Transformer movies because of him. : (

[@DocJerky]

Hell yeah. I hate that Shia LaBeouf guy

[@NickAndWolf]

Did you see a piece of Craig die when Indy 4 was mentioned? 20:00

[@kualajdm]

I watched this movie a couple of months after it's release and I enjoyed the cinematography and the overall vibe of the film. I love Mads Mikkelson's titles and this proves that he can play literally any role. I felt like he still had a voice but only through his eyes, you could feel what he was saying.

[@tazmon122]

at first i was not cool wit Shia cuz outside of Holes he kept getting cast as an action star. ...then he snapped and now i fuckin love the dude cuz like Miley Cyrus he's taking a stand and screaming from the rooftops that what he does isn't just a job, it's art. sure the art might not be that good, but the fackt that they are standing up for their integrity is amazing! also that Sia video was so beautiful. he's slowly cultivating his vision to be a little more than just using his celebrity status to push shitty art. i think your faith in Shia might shine if he worked with someone like Charlie Kaufman, or Jim Jarmucsh. even Wes Anderson could pull an amazing (but small) performance out of him.

[@toradellinmclennan4651]

For me the movie is a comment on society's psuedo-ethics. The one adult character who showed any moral character was judged to be amoral, from hell, by every other character as a result of being forced to fight to the death to stay alive. The other characters saw themselves as morally and spiritually superior to him thanks to their religious psuedo-ethics. Patriotism is another psuedo-ethic, though not mentioned in this film. The film highlights the "Dunning Kruger effect" as it pertains to moral reasoning. "The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes" [Wikepedia]. In this case the characters, inexperienced as they are with the concepts of empathy and genuine moral reasoning skills based around genuine moral principles such as justice, beneficence and respect for autonomy, mistake their religiousness for morality...as so many people still do today. In the end One Eye, the social pariah, is shown to be the only character with any sense of strong moral principle or empathy by protecting the child and then sacrificing himself to save the child.

[@lindsayadams854]

Two movies I hate, Sucker Punch & Ultraviolet. With both, my eyes rolled in the back of my head and it was like watching a car wreck but without any payoff. I wanted so bad for the movies to get better as I watched and they failed miserably. Those are a few hours of my life that I will never get back thanks to cinematic s@#*!

[@quizlixx]

Fun fact, Valhalla Rising was originally supposed to end with aliens

[@EhAmes94]

I hate Shit Shia as well. It's like every movie he is in he is the same kind of character. Just in a different setting.

[@ThePandoraGuy]

The whiney little bastard that nobody likes, that somehow gets all the chicks and that has never shown a single piece of character development. If Star Trek Discovery was condensed into one human being, it was Shia LaBluff....LaBouff....whatever.

[@DantarBlade]

I wish I could like this more than once for Craig's outburst!

[@8797mppau]

Watch the hannibal tv show. Mads is amazing on that show youll love it!!

[@GreenbeanFloyd]

Odin in Norse paganism has one eye. He is known as the "one-eyed wanderer"

[@LaughingOwlKiller]

good call

[@somecathchick]

I think Indy 4 was a victim of what I've dubbed "Darby's Law", which I derived from the movie "Darby O'Gill and the Little People". In the movie, whenever someone went beyond the traditional 3 wishes and made a fourth wish, they lost everything they'd previously wished for as punishment for their greed. Therefore, "Darby's Law" is when a franchise goes beyond a trilogy and makes a fourth installment that subsequently tanks and ruins or outright destroys any good reputation it might have had before the fourth installment was made.

[@iamthechanceman]

Applies to everything I can think of except Shrek.

[@starwarsfreak1111]

Losing tons and tons of of weight Matt! Keep going!

[@LobsterSpecial]

I like that Craig is psychic, but only in the basement.

[@EchoesOfAncients]

I gotta say I was a bit shocked that Dr. Horrible didn't make the list, but Craig's LeBeouf rant was fried gold. I think he speaks for us all.

[@EchoesOfAncients]

Mr.Appleranch On the contrary, I don't hate it because of the film. I hate it because every time I tried to watch it with a group of people they had every single line of dialogue burned into their brains that I couldn't hear the actual movie over people spouting out every word like it was the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I know it has "Sing-A-Long" in the title, but apparently it's a "Talk-A-Long" too.

[@JohnShrader]

Wait wait wait wait... no gravity in space? No. Try again.

[@blendingdude3429]

John Shrader I almost stopped watching after that

[@TheMattwolf]

The wife and I watched Valhalla Rising a few years ago. We both found it to be a powerful and deep film that kept us talking and thinking for quite a while. We didn't come up with any firm answers either, but sometimes the journey doesn't really need a destination to be life changing.

[@EastCoastHost]

YAY FOR MENTIONING HALIFAX NOVA SCOTIA!! :D

[@thebatzinator]

Have you seen Lady Hawk?? It's one of my favs.

[@dresden51]

Firstly, Craig your rant struck a cord of empathy and hilarity with me. As for the Hall of Fame inductee, I wish to nominate 'The Silence' as a driving theme in The Magician and for its roll in Valhalla Rising whenever someone asks One-Eye about anything.

[@loganmilway4162]

Craig, I completely agree with your rant about Shia Labeouf. He is completely unlikable in every role he has played after Holes, but what I can't stand the most is the way his characters stutter. I have no problem with stuttering if it is done right, but Labeouf's stuttering feels like I'm listing to Jimmy Stewart if Jimmy Stewart was stupid.

[@feralsweetcakes]

its always so funny when you hate a movie everyone seemed to love, it feels unnatural lol. mine is guardians of the galaxy. I thought the action was so much and the non action scenes were so boring and unimportant. The romance felt so forced and typical that I just didn't care.The beginning was so long and drawn out with the typical sob story so we understand why he is unable to truly love. I mean we have seen it so many times before. I did think that rocket raccoon was legit but I just couldn't finish it. Craig's Shia rant is the best thing of my 2016 (i'm binge watching all the seasons right now) so unexpected

[@williamfoss3400]

Non-Human Nomination: Blackface At worst, a reprehensible and insensitive reminder of a bygone era. At best, it's bizarre enough to take the attention away from Bob Dylan doing what he does worst.

[@GoatHeadWalletProdt]

Shia Labouef or what ever his lastname is. He was also good in Miyazaki's movie Naussica but Shia Sucks. Btw have you seen Naussica Valley of the wind? Ther is one thing i love Miyzaki and that is for being a pacifist. He does have fight seens but one of the main characters would realize why there are fighting so they don't fight. This movie has that in it.

[@CameronMcDermottEsquire]

I don't think you guys have done this on Seen It, so I'd love to know what you thought about Only God Forgives. Craig looked like he was excited when it was mentioned in this ep. I loved the crap out of it, but critics destroyed it, but I put a lot more stock in what you guys think, so it'd be great to hear your thoughts!

[@pettermg]

Can't watch the vid, says an error occurred Anyone else having the same problem, or is something wrong on my part?

[@JosephEstril]

I kind of "liked" Lady Killers until I found out it it was a Coen Brothers Movie. it went from "not a bad movie" to "worst coen movie ever."

[@klous999]

Craig exploded in this! So fun to watch his reaction to Shia.

[@loganstahley]

Hey Craig, there IS gravity in space. You're weightless in space because of free fall, not lack of gravity.

[@92bagder]

I like watching bad horror movies sometimes. Birdemic is a movie so bad it gave me diarrhea, Ive seen better acting in a kindergarten play, my 5 years old cousin can go better story and effects than this movie. You guys care to watch it in the basement?

[@mustang6172]

One Eye sounds like a Messianic figure. He shepherds people through Hell, then lays down his life to save another. He gets betrayed along the way.

[@Viciousswarm88]

I think that the crusaders showed that embracing the new doesn't always improve the world. And the child represents the choices mankind will have to make in the future.

[@DaThingOnTheDoorstep]

Craig's rage (Craige?) had me cracking.

[@whiplashfilms]

This is an old video, but I just had to chime in and say two things: 1) Temple of Doom makes the Indiana Jones trilogy totally non-un-impeachable if you know what i mean, it's not a good movie, and 2) Crystal Skull is Not. that. Bad.

[@smacksalad]

I love the way you guys talk about films and I'm going to tell the Twitters!

[@brpierce]

I'd like to plug another Ed Harris film for your consideration, gentlemen--George Romero's Knightriders. It was actually his first major film role, and I think it's an overlooked gem in Romero's portfolio.