Vallejo Surface Primer Review

befreiungskrieg... - Review of Vallejo Surface Primer including demonstration of how to apply it with a paint brush and an airbrush.

[@sandtable8091]

Very nice video. The primer doesn't actually shrink but has a composition that allows what is called 'self levelling'. It's a feature of Vallejo and other quality paints. Hope this helps.

[@ashhillmodels3801]

I happened to try the black primer a couple of days ago, for the first time. I used normal tamiya paint as a base coat before. And i gotta say i love it. It bonds very well with the surface and kinda shrinks around details and makes them stick out. And next layer of paint sticks on very well too.

[@1337fraggzb00N]

Trivia: when using spike shaped or sharpened tool, which is designed to fit near the barrel of a rifle, to mix egg yolk with rapeseed oil, you will get bayonnaise.

[@adambrandist2233]

you can get bubbles from shaking it to mix it, paints not meant to shaken its meant to be stirred, hold it at the top and rotate the bottom, its also better to do this with any spray can primers instead of shaking, also with any spray can primer warm it in warm water first it thins the primer and you get a better flow and less spotting.

[@TheEunchanna]

I know this is an old comment but I'm writing anyway. The micro bubbles have been the issue with the grey primer. I will try this method!!

[@Tom_-]

I'd imagine this sticks really well to lead/pewter based miniatures, but on polystyrene based GW plastic miniatures I had terrible trouble getting it to stick nicely. Also, it was shiny, and probably a bit lighter than I had expected. I think I will attempt it again but having shaken the bottle a lot more than the last time.

[@oldbaldfatman2766]

Thanks for the video on this product and also to others who made comments about this paint. Getting back into modeling after 15 years or so and Floquil SP lettering grey was always my go to paint because it being lacquer based, it would "bite" into the plastic/metal pieces. Still got a couple of unused bottles, but know I need to find a replacement product and will give it a try when I run out of the good/tried & true Floquil paint.

[@KillerKatt66]

Old, bald fat man Did you bother to clean your model before you tried painting it?

[@lestatsev]

Switching from Krylon rattle can to this made me worry how delicate it seemed, but after atleast 3 thin coats and letting it dry completely for 24 hours just to make absolutely sure, i was happy with how resilient it was rubbing off was not happening, and scratching only when extreme pressure was applied.

[@BennyCFD]

There is no secret to acrylic primers. It's just some urethane type of liquid and a color. Thinning your paint with floor wax will do the same thing, and you can choose what color you want and it works 100 as well. I've been doing this for years. And, it's a slot cheaper.

[@timtamtung]

Thanks for a very great and informative video. Well done. I've always wanted to see if u could apply with a brush so you have answered it for me.

[@revolvergimp4397]

Thanks for the review. I have a couple of comments on the Vallejo Primer. I use the black and white primers myself I think they are great. I Airbrush them and Vallejo has suggestions on how to thin on their website. I mix my primer with vallejo satin varnish, retarder medium and vallejo airbrush thinner. I don't have a precise measurement. However I find mixing it to the consistency of a wash works best for my equipment which is a badger 360 with the .3 mm needle running 20psi on a compressor with a tank.

[@revolvergimp4397]

Also if you want to try Vallejo primer they sell little droppers which require minimal thinning.

[@tomatoes3]

Thanks for this review, its clear, well spoken and well filmed. A1

[@Tom_-]

You don't thin the primer at all when airbrushing? Vallejo doesn't say to but I've had it go on too thickly without thinning.

[@ianthomason8563]

Hi Fired my airbrush up for the very first time this afternoon (yes a real newby) using Valejo Surface primer. Used a 0.3 needle and the airbrush quickly became clogged so I presumed that it needed thinning which I did 50/50. Improved things a great deal at 20 psi. What needle did you use in this video, you seemed to get good coverage.

[@Am-yo4hx]

Does it produces outgassing at 37 degree celcius?

[@juliaspearing6949]

I used it for my blood bowl Orcs and it didn't fully cover the plastic. Is that because it wasn't shaken?

[@charleswillis2509]

Thanks for posting.

[@lovinmusic500]

Do you have to use a mask when using is primer if you're only brushing it on?

[@PlaidPenguinGaming]

Nope

[@PhilShary]

Thank you for this review, I used to buy Imperial Primer from Citadel, but it was discontinued

[@alessandrofermani]

For airbrush whitout thinner?

[@DobbsyLondon]

You need to stress that a filter respirator is the minimum required. A face mask is only foro dust, not aerosol rendered chemicals or paints.

[@IAmACrab2020]

would it be possible to use things like tamiya paint over vallejo primer?

[@befreiungskriege]

Jackson Golden yes, that should be possible.

[@0DesertEagle0]

What PSI do you select when spraying the primer from your air brush?

[@WarBoy87]

20

[@budgetwebsiteservice]

Hi, Did you have to thin this primer for the airbrush or is it good to go straight out of the bottle??

[@wangruochuan]

You can actually spray it directly. But, this primer is really not very friendly. It tends to clog airbrush when you are on 0.2 or 0.3. I think the primer is either in 1000 or less grade. Somebody suggests to use 0.5 needle but I personally find the black primer flows much consistent with thinner needle. Same brand. Is it good? Meh, it sure does not have some of the toxic content that comes in tamiya. But still, it irritates my throat if I don't wear mask. I'd go with any color av primer than the grey. I had enough clogging in my goddarn life

[@budgetwebsiteservice]

wangruochuan Ohh, does they grey clog the brush more then than the other colours?? I have literally just purchased some grey and some white this week, but I haven't had the time to shoot them through the airbrush just yet...

[@wangruochuan]

Stu D'Nutz yes, the grey one clogs A LOT. I spend 2/3 time on flushing my airbrush when priming with it.it is a real major pain in the butt. You have to shake it real good. It also forms a dry paint ring on the airbrush tip thus clogging the cup. But other color works quite good. I haven't used white yet but black and orange are very smooth. Don't know what's wrong with the grey one.

[@Heybat]

+Stu D'Nutz you can airbrush it right from the bottle but it is crap. crap crap

[@paullemieux3371]

So ther dark yellow primmer

[@petesyoutube8680]

hi friend.. with the primer did thin it with anything for airbrush or was out of the bottle... thanks Peter

[@dalton_nbg]

Just what I needed. Thanks for the review.

[@gordongriffith9047]

Does it need thinner

[@paullemieux3371]

Can you just use primer only ther nop,ace I can find dark yellow if you can help ore any one that would be great thanks

[@supermanwhereareyounow3081]

just straight primer?i use 0.5 airbrush juat for primer.how do you clean the airbrush afterwards?

[@hyndland65]

Great explanatory video. Thank you.

[@liberator2408]

Nice video, i may try out that primer, thanks.

[@Kshatriya-bz8dd]

Why does my airbrush keep clogging up when I use primer I run it at 45 psi and I'm using an iwata airbrush

[@reggiecactus2810]

Kshatriya 8271 Vallejo recommends a PSI of 15-20

[@zelu1984]

Martin I got a question. Can I use this to cover up the small holes that are left after sanding to achieve the smooth surface or is there something better I could use?

[@befreiungskriege]

Zelu Tom no, I wouldn't recommend this as a filler. What you use for that would depend on the material you're priming.

[@zelu1984]

Thank you for your reply! What would you recommend to fill in the gaps/voids after sanding to make it smooth? (I'm working with 6" action figure)

[@befreiungskriege]

Zelu Tom for plastic items, I use Perfect Plastic Putty by Deluxe Materials but there's also the Mr Hobby range of "surfacers" which might be more suitable for small imperfections.

[@zelu1984]

thank you very much!

[@zeroa6]

Great video. Thanks.

[@titithierry920]

Can you thin this primer with water or alcohol drops ? have you tried it ?

[@jimmytan9917]

does this primer need to mix with thinner ?

[@rgj8044]

Airbrush pressure???

[@garciasartwork185]

dose this work well with soft plastic toy models?

[@dr.swoovermarkerjaggerwins1062]

Nice video sir.

[@chainsawpanda2]

is washing up liquid hand soap or dish soap?

[@PlaidPenguinGaming]

It’s dish soap

[@airsoftfreak11]

what are the models? id enjoy a battleline of muskets and a bucket of dice to roll lol

[@natewruck4953]

Would this work on like revell scale model

[@jean-lucadant1593]

cool merci

[@gkspain1]

Are you still painting this looks great, have subscribed, all the best Garry

[@jeffhaty5715]

How do you sand after dryers

[@bleedinggumsroberts3579]

Is it sandable?

[@ifeelinspiredtobuild]

thanks! 😃

[@user-on6gf8dv6f]

Is it toxic or non-toxic?

[@MrGggggggggggggjj]

well im looking into this myself. It has a warning label on it. Also it says polyurethane and ive seen resin kits with polyurethane written on them, now ive read the worst about resin, you need masks etc. My point is its very difficult for me to get an answer

[@nekketsukai]

How could I sand it?

[@GniewnyMedrzec]

Sanding primer? It's not necessary cause it's designed this way (it's not a automotive primer). Just avoid thick layers of paint and let it dry completely before painting with base colours.

[@jeffhaty5715]

How do you make it so you can sand it

[@user240485]

I realize its been a long time since you asked I merely answering for others that have that same question. Vallejo primers are primary NOT sold as a sand-able primer. Vallejo is mostly designed to painted or sprayed thinly then it shrinks slightly to not cover details. Its also not super durable vs a scratch test. Again its not meant for that purpose its designed to allow you to easily paint over. Protection comes in the form of the varnish you apply after the model is completed. If you want some thing more sand-able then I suggest a rattle can of auto primer. It's designed to somewhat bond to a metal surface, then when dry its designed to be sanded to a smooth finish by hand. With the scale of miniatures being so small its hard to sand anything but vehicles with flat sides. And typically with miniatures you mostly want to smooth surface/fill voids/etc before you primer. hope that helps anyone.

[@oowen7734]

Its good just have to wait a day for it to cure

[@DienekesShade]

I used 3 different colours of this crap of a primer and each and every one of them bubbles up like a frigging champagne. Hate it. Nightmare to out on with a brush. And the way the pigment separates from the medium is mind boggling.

[@Kshatriya-bz8dd]

Why does my airbrush keep clogging up when I use primer I run it at 45 psi and I'm using an iwata airbrush

[@blaaaaaaaaaaaaargh]

I had the same thing happen with my primer, first off shake the bottle. Then for every 20 drops you also want to add 5 drops of valejo thinner and one drop of airflow improver. 4/1 ratio paint to thinner seems to work best for me. I'm using an HC eclipse.

[@martinoconnor4314]

@@blaaaaaaaaaaaaargh I know this comment is 2 years old but I just used vallejo primer for the first time today. The ebay seller recommended just using vallejo flow improver, that worked fine with they grey but the black was constantly clogging, I'll try thinning the black next time, thanks.

[@markpr73]

This thread reflects one basic problem…Everyone has their own method and their own recipe for success. And no end to the places one can visit online to get every variation thereof. Oddly enough, my go-to primer used to be Rust-Oleum gray 2X Coverage rattle can primer. I’ve had great results with it in the past unless I got distracted and trained it in one spot just a little too long, but that can happen with any primer. I bought the 200ml size bottle so I HAVE to figure out how to get it to work! Last night I started with a freshly stripped and cleaned a/b, and a ratio of 3 drops thinner to every 10 of primer, with 2 or 3 drops of flow improver. Mixed it up in the cup and set my compressor to 15psi and from the very first pull on the trigger it was gummed up. So I’m going to kick the psi up to 20, increase the thinner and try it again. If I can’t get it to function properly, I’ve got some of the Vallejo black primer I can try in its place. I’m running out of hairs to yank out with this primer bullshit!😄