Value Betting and Bluffing in Poker (aka Value Bet vs. Bluff)

[@pokerphdio]

'Implied Odds' and 'Blocking Bet (Turn)' also discuss correct bet sizing when you or your opponents are on the draw (and why). They can be found in the Poker Foundations and Full Access Package respectively.

[@pokerphdio]

thanks for a good question. yes. it is wrong. to simplify, imagine if you and your opponents cards were face up. you had top set and he had the nut flush draw. we are on the turn. he is drawing to 9 outs of 44 unseen cards.he has 20% equity. if you bet any less than 35% of the pot, he will have the right explicit pot odds. you of course will win this pot 80% of the time, so you question is, how can it be a mistake to check behind when you are an 80% favorite?

[@pokerphdio]

The explanation to your questions are long. I would recommend watching our course on Pot Odds. Click the second link in this video description to browse all our courses. You'll find Pot Odds in the top row of that new page. The 'Poker Foundations' course also includes all Pot Odds videos AND a video on expected value. I think all those videos will be very helpful to you.

[@pokerphdio]

I would say value betting well is harder because it comes up so much more often, there are endless scenarios, and the difference between the right and wrong bet size can be so narrow. I would rather be perfect at value betting and average at bluffing than the other way around. The frequency of value bet spots would magnify any mistakes you make much more than bluffing mistakes.

[@roseandlucky]

Love the simplicity. Thanks

[@Iwmar]

And how exactly can I tell how much my opponent is willing to call?

[@thegamerdude853]

Yeah i use to play $100 heads up SNGs for a living before i started to play MTTs and people think that there is a lot more bluffing at these which is not true. However what there is is a lot more skilled value betting in thin value and more optinal bet sizing. Anyone can valuebet a set of AAs but it takes a good player to be able to value bet middle pair, bottom, pair, and sometimes even Ace high and do this well and consistently. Hope you get what i mean not very good at explaining.

[@420xHustlerxB0SS]

You're increasing a pot which you will get 80 % of the time. Seems profitable. The draw prefers free cards over correct calls. You're at least reducing his profit. On the other hand, you refuse X amount of chips now in favor of an 80% chance of 1.25*X by the river card, assuming perfect betting. One should bet so that the opponent is forced to overvalue implied odds or fold. Is this correct?

[@CrimsonFox36]

Your title is redundant. But your information is valued.

[@matend8125]

thanks man.

[@pokerphdio]

1) you didn't build a pot of which you have 80% equity. 80 cents of every dollar you get your opponent to put into the pot is rightfully yours in the long run. this is a rare situation and you have to take advantage of it. 2) you allowed your opponent to exploit you. if he doesn't fear a turn bet when he is on the draw, he will call many more of your flop continuation bets.

[@thegamerdude853]

Dont you agree with the fact that value betting in itself is harder to master than bluffing?

[@TheRealXidious]

when u say opponents bluff too much its kinda weird cuz from my experience and probably because of the buyin amounts i've been at that doesn't seem to be the case actually they dont bluff enough

[@christiankim6864]

The only thing I got out of this video was that you gotta have the cojones and follow your opponents patterns well enough to know how he'd react to you. Which is basically poker. I'm jk I enjoyed the video but I'm not jk

[@guyvanburen]

Slow talker lol