Patrick Bet-David Responds To Jason Whitlock Calling Him Out

[@JoseRodriguez-wb9vb]

If they knew beforehand how jason felt about sitting with Roland on a panel and didn't disclose than it's pbd bad , should be full transparency

[@jsanders9975]

That's what I was thinking. I'm not a fan of Jason or Roland but I know they hate each other. Who's idea was it to invite them both without telling either of them they would be there? Sounds like a clear setup.

[@shanewilliams5150]

Jason should man up then. Feminine energy from him

[@jsanders9975]

@@shanewilliams5150 Man up? Patrick was being slick and dishonest. It's bad business. Jason did the right thing by leaving.

[@JazzyJ5G]

Add to this: Roland didn't know ahead of time either about Jason being on the panel, and wouldn't have wanted to participate either. So, both Jason and Roland were being set up.

[@shanewilliams5150]

@@jsanders9975 you sound soft like you're hero

[@ultraman1red]

Bottom line, you guys need to disclose what and who is going to be at the interview with a guest that you invite. That's why they're called guests.

[@almamia229]

That is correct. David is sneaky and did not tell the truth.

[@ShovelShovel]

To be fair to Jason, "Panel" could just mean the normal podcast panel. If I were in his position I'd probably make the same assumption.

[@larrybenton777]

That what I would have assumed too.

[@tylerbaxter4199]

Yea that’s what I would have thought. PBD as his team is a panel

[@nkxseal8398]

If your someone who will refuse to have a discussion with certain people then why wouldn't you ask for clarification? Part of his job is traveling to talk with people, why wouldn't you ask who's gonna be there lol

[@dlisch]

Exactly!!! Wouldn't you want to know who is on the "panel"?!?!?! Seems self explanatory. Also, you wouldn't have a 5min call or text beforehand with a client you respect that you're about to have a 2 hour podcast with? Almost basic miscommunication - and the blame is entirely on the initiator of the exchange.

[@zackattack635]

That’s obviously true. This was a sneaky move to create drama and get content. A serious person came to do a serious podcast… showed up at a clown show and left. PBD isn’t a bad dude, but this is weak. Very feminine move for sure.

[@Airrick76]

It's not Jason's responsibility to ask its your responsibility to tell him.

[@onyx9857]

They did. They literally invited him to "a panel discussion." If Jason is fearful of particular people, he should let Valuetainment know that he's too cowardly to be on a panel with them.

[@Airrick76]

@@onyx9857 So your supposed to walk into an ambush when you find out you're being ambushed...PBD came after Ron Desantis over his shoes his damn shoes. Weak sauce. Listen I was interested in PBD and I'm no Jason Whitlock apologist. PBD thinks his shit doesn't stink and seems to be a little bit of a fraud.

[@smallgoon]

​@@onyx9857it's not fearful it's a complete waste of time to have discussions with certain people that have no interest in having an honest debate. Roland Martin and Michael Eric Dyson come to mind.

[@viyahtastinyhousevillage2727]

⁠​⁠@@onyx9857Roland Martin is difficult to listen to even for me and Whitlock has expressed how much he disrespect Roland. PBD learned his lesson end of story?

[@aa8995]

Jason is the only guest they're working with tho He responded to the social media handle email and agreed to the panel but somehow forgot to request identities of the other guests

[@pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230]

The thing I didn't like that you guys did is completely change the topics on the interview for Whitlock. It went from the podcast being about Whitlock his career with espn, his podcast, etc, to a debate panel within a couple of days, and this panel just so happened to be two black participants. I thought that was a little shady

[@educatehour]

Agree

[@gusphinizy2658]

Exactly the point. PBD is full of Chit 💩 and knew exactly what the situation was and tried the ambush route. Why are they on different floors? It was a set up to get 2 Black dudes bickering instead of debating... People need to use common SENSE and LOGIC. Jason went to promote his show that's on the Blaze platforms. He didn't go to create content for the NOvaluetainment platform. I figured out PBD was very SHADY the very first time I viewed one of his videos. It took a few minutes. It's OBVIOUS! if you know what to look and listen for..

[@almamia229]

Yes it was shady. Just like David

[@yralim7482]

agree pat wants some clicks on this for his show smh

[@cellmate1]

It was more than shady!! IT WAS A LIE!!

[@chrislindstrom3669]

Jason was right about Roland, a productive interview with him is impossible.

[@jaredgarrison333]

have you ever watched a whitlock interview? When people bring up data he brings up religion and his faith. Or goes to single parent households or victim culture. But he never ever brings any actual facts or data. And when you bring facts he changes the topic or just says its not true without having any evidence. Same guy who on his show said emmitt till's killers were brought to justice and in prison. Huh, they never went to jail. That was the main reason for the outrage. You can't debate with guys who do not know basic history and will not admit when they are wrong. This is the same guy who after joe burrow started off 0-2 this season blamed it on his social media posts and said his career is over. Are you for real?

[@patlobi]

That’s cuz you’re an hack right winger

[@chrislindstrom3669]

@Pat Lobi "a hack" yells the same talking points out loud instead of addressing questions. But it's typical for fans of Roland to be hypocrites projecting their own shadow on others.

[@wzg8804]

Although I agree, claiming that PBD has "feminine energy" is just a low IQ take.

[@josephmilton4783]

Lmao this has to be a joke! PBD doesn’t let anybody he agrees with y’all and just deflects constantly!

[@ronyvera]

I'm with Jason on this one, I still love your shows

[@MrMurray32]

Agreed. How difficult is it just to say Rolland Martin is going to be on the panel as well via email.

[@jsanders9975]

@@MrMurray32 It was difficult because Roland and Jason hate each other and Jason would have declined. Patrick was thinking ahead and tried a slick move.

[@BigJL]

@@jsanders9975 then Patrick is dishonest at best and a manipulator at worst...Bad business either way

[@jsanders9975]

@@BigJL He got rich off of selling insurance, I wouldn't doubt it.

[@fosiko123]

@@BigJL david and his crew knew what the are doing; they just got caught trying to play to grown up men who hate each other to get views; they are being dishonest

[@del5924]

Whitlock's side of the story is more credible.

[@temamou43]

You guys keep doing what you’re doing, the majority of your audience is here because you have credibility and class and we respect you!

[@greidtv]

Said like a true groupie! Be a man and have some morals, coward

[@emir0324]

No, the majority of the audience is here is because he is just like Fox News he spews right wing bs. That’s he’s only audience, right wing audience

[@uncle_Samssubjects]

What did the other 2 comments say?

[@zackattack635]

PBD making excuses for bait and switch content drama. He’s wrong, but won’t admit it because of pride.

[@jtjeckiratutuhi6096]

This dude is deceitful of course you wanted a Black Man to debate Rollin Martin. And you wouldn't do it to Jordan Peterson

[@keepitsimple3856]

First Round: Steven Crowder vs. Daily Wire Second Round: Tim Pool vs. The Quartering Third Round: Jason Whitlock vs PDB Winners: None Losers: Us the people, the viewers… it sucks seeing all this in fighting.

[@steverapos3904]

Yeah I agree 😥

[@chillones9574]

UNDER RATED COMMENT.

[@scandarak7362]

Daily wire is sucks

[@PhongLe-od6fo]

You got that backwards. Winners: Thinkers. Losers: Groupthinkers

[@taron.y]

Yep.

[@doublem1971]

Humble suggestion- If you know who is on the panel, state it on the email to eliminate the question all together.

[@kurovader4078]

Or if someone says"panel" ASK who is on the panel

[@bcharlz2513]

The most important parts should be highlighted and in bold letters, PANEL or one on one, who is on the panel and the topics you plan to discuss. I think any interviewee would want to know those pertinent facts upfront.

[@darylgraham930]

Neither Jason Whitlock nor Roland Martin were told they would be debating each other. Sorry but Patrick and his team have to take an L on this one.

[@railTaterman]

You should have told him who was on the panel

[@chillones9574]

FACTS

[@Beetwate305]

Does it even freaking matter!! You’re suppose to be fearless

[@Darth_SurgeYo]

Is he afraid to debate with random people? Not very fearless coming from a guy who likes to “debate”. random people on tik tok hold more debates against strangers and the ones that don’t know what they’re talking about or get pissy ALWAYS walk away mid debate like Jason.

[@setokaibasbankaccount9109]

@@Beetwate305 Yes from a professional standpoint it does matter. You can’t just put everyone in the same room and tell them to go at it without prior notice. Not everyone is a master debater who can just go cold with someone on the spot like a Ben Shapiro type. Jason is also not “Fearless” that’s just a branding gimmick, he’s calculated with everything he does and says. He doesn’t just say whatever he feels like, nobody should ever take Jason’s branding at truth because it’s obvious the dude ain’t fearless.

[@blueguise23]

No, he could have asked. Sometimes panel members change.

[@luisvalentin5039]

To be quite honest, you could've told him the panel was with Roland Martin.

[@stillirise7813]

Nope they told him there was a buffet on site......they lied so Whitlock walked out.

[@NeoClutch08]

He could’ve asked who was on the panel

[@Ashantia35]

Oh so he scared of Roland Martin Like to be in an echo chamber so nobody challenges his views

[@jonjaime]

@@Ashantia35 They've already had a debate and it didn't go anywhere. Roland is a bad faith actor. Nobody in their right mind would constantly debate with a person like that. It's a waste of time.

[@akilahbrooklyn8236]

@@jonjaime 💯💯💯

[@darrentodd1234]

Sounds like Patrick did exactly what Jason said he did

[@charcoalcowboy]

Exactly

[@willpower3317]

He did. Not even PBD could (s)ell us otherwise

[@gusphinizy2658]

This CLOWN 🤡 PBD. thinks people can't use LOGIC and common SENSE... Thinks people with any SENSE would fall for this NONSENSE like his insurance scam pitch

[@darrentodd1234]

I tough way more of Pat then this. Makes me wonder what really happened with Crowder now

[@shanewilliams5150]

Maybe If you're stupid

[@noeltaylor3594]

The whole thing went up in smoke because it seems Whitlock just might have had a consciense. This guy wanted to bring on two black guys to set up pro-cops vs anti-cops just for entertainment when the death of the kid in Memphis shouldn't be used for that. IF Whitlock smelled that out, kudos to him. We are used to much as entertainment as it is.

[@Joseph-lz5er]

In fairness to Jason, it should be PBD's responsibility to list who the members will be on the panel. Especially if someone like Roland was going to be on the show.

[@kdogglv]

Yes Rob really dropped the ball in booking

[@jimfoster7986]

Yes, Jason could have thought the panel was the normal PBD panel.

[@feelsgoodman1349]

Thought Jason was Fearless tho... Should've been excited to crush Rich boy Roland.

[@Ru-gv2if]

If Rob dropped the ball why did Pat run with the ball, disrespect Jason, insult and disrespect additionally trying to bribe after lying to Jason, with money for Jason to do the show. No honor with Pat. There is much more to this than what Patrick selectively says and portrays. Listen to Jason's podcast then you decide where the truth lies and who is telling the truth.

[@jimfoster7986]

@@feelsgoodman1349 Fearless, but not stupid.

[@volpe_sol]

To be fair, since the show always has Pat and the crew sitting on the table, he likely thought that the usual format of the show was the "panel" in itself.

[@chillones9574]

I would think that .

[@kenxclout]

I agree, good thing they learned their lesson. Tell people beforehand..

[@whatevergoesforme5129]

Yes, that could have been the case. I don't even know this man but just like with Tim Pool, one would think the panel means the usual hosts being part of the panel and not someone you hate LOL.

[@BushMaster420circle]

@@whatevergoesforme5129 oo wow what a debate everyone agreeing lol!!! kinda seems like ur scared then too face off with someone.... xD

[@whatevergoesforme5129]

@@BushMaster420circle I wouldn't know. I just stated my opinion about this guest because when you say panel, it could have been the regular panel of hosts like with Tim Pool. And again, I don't know this man nor the other guest because I don't follow both of them. So if you believe he was scared of that other guy, whom I know nothing about as well, then go ahead and believe so. I have no issues with your opnion but it seems you want to take sides because you must be a fan of the other guy. I don't even know that this guest is black so I do agree with Patrick that using the race card is kinda below the belt and the go to ad hominem of pissed off black people. But Patrick should have been more specific to avoid this miscommunication unless it was done deliberately which could have been also the case but hard to prove as well. Now, go cry in the corner just because you seem to hate this guest and love the other guest. I don't care about either of them. Boo hoo!

[@MiamiGuy305]

Why did Whitlock think it was still an interview??? @4:19 “Here’s the INTERVIEW confirmation for Monday…” PBD and his team did not properly communicate their true intentions here.

[@jsanders9975]

Bingo

[@urbannuance5151]

He tried to make him zoom in quickly before anyone saw it.

[@theway77744]

9:25, “if you have a show called Fearless, you face off with anyone”…….So, carry that to its logical conclusion. Jason was right, sitting to try and have a debate with a screaming child (like Martin) is a waste of time.

[@jaya5264]

I appreciate the video but I think Whitlock has a point. The PBD team could have been transparent. Pointing out that Whitlock doesn’t view all his emails or notice details is a bit unprofessional. I don’t think a pivot to include someone divisive like Rolland would be done with a bigger name. They felt like they could get away with this since Whitlock doesn’t have a HUGE audience.

[@bowlingbbabe]

Exactly and that's what he meant by saying it wouldn't have been done to Jordan Peterson not that it was because he's blatt and Jordan is whyte

[@MJ-kd7dp]

Listen to Whitlock's 2-9-23 response. PBD is a liar.

[@tonyyayo2115]

@@MJ-kd7dp Whitlock needs Klay Travis to expand his audience

[@bigkahuna3534]

@@bowlingbbabe yup

[@elijahf8]

🤣 Roland's divisive? Not Whitlock, huh? Yeah, you're a 🤡

[@omarali262]

This is one of the few times I think Pat is actually in the wrong. You did try to set him up, even if you don't see it that way.

[@tclass99]

The only thing that Pat tried to “set up” is an interesting discussion. Jason is a smart man. Why not go on air and destroy Roland’s points rather than running away? I’m disappointed in Jason for this because I’m a big fan. This was an opportunity wasted. I would have loved to have had Jason there to talk with Pat and counter Roland’s blustering.

[@bryonstevenson1084]

Stop the pandering for Jason. He s grown man he can read it said panel. He just scared and that's it.

[@sthubbins4038]

Jason Whitlock is a thin-skinned MAGA who can't debate, and a hypocrite who's happy to play the Race Card that he accuses the Left of playing.

[@truth1844]

@@tclass99 ... You can't destroy a race-baiting conman like Roland and Jason is smart enough to know that and avoid it. Pat darn well knows that his interview with Roland was a shitshow. Pat took 2 Ls by being deceptive with Jason and by giving a platform to a low-life like Roland.

[@truth1844]

@@bryonstevenson1084 ...Almost every interview that Pat does is a panel. The topic of discussion was changed after Jason had already confirmed he would attend.

[@qamisrael5724]

Why didn't you provide the info who was going to be on the panel 🤔

[@diegog1291]

Doesn't matter, why was he so triggered?

[@qamisrael5724]

@@diegog1291 dishonest

[@eddiemcdonald4720]

This isn’t CNN bro. They’re not all back in a green room chumming it up before talking about the known subject on camera. This is how real debate should be done. Don’t know the topic or the opponent

[@temijinkahn511]

If you knew who would be on the panel, the guests should have been told so they could better prepare. Neither guest was told. For them to find out literally minutes before the show was in poor form. I believe Jason has some valid points.

[@nunnayabiz7911]

??? These people are professional communicators and debaters. It's literally what they do for a living.

[@temijinkahn511]

@nunnayabiz7911 That is true, but it doesn't change anything I said. This was an ambush.

[@stevenwoods5787]

@@nunnayabiz7911 yes but they still have to get ready, they dont shoot from the hip, especially with someone like roland, dudes a total dick

[@Vansmackable]

I’m with Jason. You guys usually do a panel interview with the home team guys, so he likely made that assumption and is the reason he didn’t ask. Why not just be up front and go over every detail with a guest you invited on?

[@Beetwate305]

Oh shut up!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@JoseysSportsNation]

I agree

[@vanessaaponte7491]

And they had the uber driver take him on a 15 minute detour because they didn't want Jason to see Roland

[@timothyblevins1345]

@@vanessaaponte7491 😆 that makes Patrick a punk for doing that if he did. What a loser move.

[@zbow5]

Glad to see folks who agree. This other man is a clown show. I wouldn't waste my oxygen either. I like PBD but he gives way too much credit to this podcast. He like it "because he gets dirty". Either you are into real facts or you love it because the words are quality and that it's a good debate. Why wasn't he forthcoming with will be here?

[@studiouswadoo5027]

Patrick this is dirty bro. You KNOW he’s thinking it’s a solo interview. From his perspective I can see how you set him up, you gotta tell him ahead of time you can’t just put “panel” in the near bottom of an email and think you’ve managed expectations. Also the “debate” you did with Peter Schiff wasn’t a debate, you just joked around cause you knew Peter was right

[@frankhanson9260]

P offered him a solo podcast when heard someone was there to call him out on his Bullshit. he ran out the door into traffic.

[@educatehour]

@@frankhanson9260 nah it came off extremely unprofessional and dishonest, broke the trust, broke the code

[@deborahcooper7545]

This guy is VLAD #2

[@ALCRAN2010]

This is how you sell millions in life insurance contracts. Drop the devil in the micro print.

[@ajbryantrealestate-anthony1513]

Agreed. Love Pat but this one is wrong

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

One question I would have is why did they drive him around for 15 minutes and then insist on him coming in the back door instead of the front? He said the driver flat out told him he was instructed to do so. I can absolutely see why that he felt like he walked into an ambush.

[@yogo3798]

PBD is about his show$$$, he’s cleaning it up now saying he and his team did not lie, but why would you drive Jason around for 15minutes? Why say debate panel and not tell the the invitees??? That’s a setup 🤦

[@PD-we8vf]

Typical fiddler on the roof trickery.

[@PardonMyPresence]

He tried to pit 2 black men against each other. Typical of shock media

[@shanewilliams5150]

Lol sounds like a lie Jason made up. Coons tend to lie

[@rassoul420]

@Pardon My Presence Whitlock whole shtick is being anti black

[@williamsmith7994]

Jason agreed to an interview and then you changed it to a panel in which he learned the "panel" was Roland. Jason was right. I also watched the interview with Roland and it was utter nonsense.

[@jeffv3296]

This is my second post on this comment section as I was thinking more about what happened while I was working out. I will disclose that I’m a big PBD fan and will continue to be one-but the more that I think about it-the more that I think that he got his hand caught in the cookie jar. He knows that the overal structure of his show is a panel that generally features the same people (the home team). It is absolutely reasonable for anybody that gets approached by him to come on the podcast for a panel discussion to assume that “panel” would mean that it would be him, the normal guys, and the person receiving the invitation. There is no debate that a podcast featuring Rolland and Jason having a back and forth would capture far more interest and eyeballs than just the “home team and Jason” and just the “home team and Rolland” doing separate individual podcasts. There is also no doubt that the appearance fees involved in getting both of these men to agree to have such an event on a platform that is not their own would be a lot higher than just them each speaking to PBD/home team individually. PBD is a business man. He tried to manipulate paying both of these men standard appearance fees to get an event that would normally require paying far more than that. He got caught being cheap and is tryign to use the ambiguity around the word “panel” as his scapegoat. I’ll continue to support and watch-because I think he’s a good guy and his conversations are very valuable to society-but moving forward-I’d recommend against these slick business practices. You should have moved on past them the moment you got out of the insurance industry.

[@supakhan23]

I'm glad PBD's sleazy tactics are being seen out in the open now. Dude is a snake oil salesman and tries to sweet talk his way out of everything. Real ones know, this guy sells bullshit to the masses who eat it up. The sleaze just oozes from the grease in his hair.

[@rcdonis]

Well said

[@stevenpena3077]

On point

[@henrypfeiffer5549]

Could not agree more I also immediately found a issue with the word panel very vague. I’m a fan of Patrick but must admit he’s in the wrong defending this position .

[@liquidsarcasm]

In the words of JLP Amazin...

[@pappabear7087]

Yeah Patrick unfortunately your team dropped the ball on this one...Your team should've informed both parties of who was part of the panel. Lesson learned and we move on..👍🏾

[@rh81454]

Why? So they can come on with their typical political talking points bs? Let em fight it out and quit using race as an excuse when it suits you (Jason).

[@MRkriegs]

PBD said he would do the show solo and he still declined. Not sure how that works

[@ENDWOKEDEGENERACY]

For PBD to say “they didn’t ask” was a cop out. You should 100% tell them who’s on the panel. They just want controversy for clicks and happy to set people up for that.

[@almamia229]

@@ENDWOKEDEGENERACY David is just looking to make money. His head is too big for him now. It's obvious he knew what would happen if the 2 men knew they would be debating each other.

[@EndofCamelot]

@@almamia229yeah, you don’t know how media works nor have experienced it, which is fine, but it shows. This move, of being partly vague, is industry standard. There are many reasons for it, one being that media companies don’t want to be accused of being scripted. Fox and CNN or even other major industries simply give you topics to speak on, and they usually will tell you it’s a panel. It really is up to the speaker to ask questions. The speakers are paid professionals. I’m not saying this is the best way to do it, I’m just saying it is what is almost universally.

[@smallgoon]

I would've assumed the panel was the people on the show.

[@fourestates3257]

Your show is a now a panel with a special guest. I can understand how Whitlock could've thought he'd be the only guest.

[@rh81454]

Nah! Jason is the typical contradiction of the right; "debate me bro" then when it comes to a basic panel like this where the show leans more right than left he chickens out. He's a fraud.

[@Vansmackable]

Exactly

[@Byron4343]

No it's not. He still dose 1 on 1 interview's. Just scroll through his recent videos and you will see.

[@almamia229]

David was not honest with Jason. Jason doesn't need to sit with Roland if he doesn't want to. Period

[@marcusjones2207]

@@almamia229 True. And Jason had already had a 1:1 interview with Roland Martin years ago, and just saw it as a waste of his time to do it again.

[@azguitar]

PBD is the most even-handed interviewer that I've seen on KZbin. Of course, I understand Jason Whitlock's disgust at being put on a panel with loudmouth Roland Martin.

[@richy12zzz]

I hope Pat can make it right with Jason Whitlock. That would be a good podcast.

[@Acordionista509]

Watch the coffezilla video on pbd. He got exposed

[@networth00]

@@Acordionista509 PBD got exposed?

[@newerest1]

@@networth00 yes...MLM

[@networth00]

@@newerest1 What's mlm?

[@roccofranzino4069]

You guys tried to pull a fast one and it blew up in your faces. Your credibility continues to tank my man. Arguing without facts is one thing, but setting up people is another.

[@doncojones]

🧢

[@ohmhomie]

facts go in one ear and out of the other for these guys

[@JoseysSportsNation]

I agree

[@rachaelrose3079]

Whitlock isn't a dummy, he saw right through it.

[@aa8995]

It's just a debate plus Jason spoke about the issue on his show Even if you don't like someone it doesn't necessarily stop you from debating the person

[@FerallHog]

Whitlock is excellent!!

[@ednasolie4358]

Yea he did

[@rumchata6569]

They should have mentioned who else was going to be on the show. I wouldn’t want to be surprised either

[@ToasterForLife]

Exactly

[@medicisounds1384]

Why did he not ask? If im going to an event I’m invited to i ask who will be there so i know what to prepare for

[@rumchata6569]

@@medicisounds1384 yea I would have asked too. It’s kinda like when someone walks in on someone in the bathroom without knocking. But the door wasn’t lock. In one hand the door should have been locked but the person should also have knocked lol

[@cobbler88]

@@medicisounds1384 He was told it was an interview. That's what they agreed to. Why would Jason expect anyone else to be on the show?

[@medicisounds1384]

@@cobbler88 Because of the whole back and forth with scheduling and finding a proper date. Also even if it was supposed to be an interview you can have multiple people there at the interview. So i would still have asked just in case. Point is he really has no right in getting upset if he never asked.

[@mariaantwan7479]

Very classy of you PBD for not trashing the person and acknowledging the mistakes you made 🙌🏻

[@zackattack635]

It was an impromptu debate with someone Jason already debated and has no time for. PBD is making excuses for weasel tactics and it’s not even close. Pat should just admit he got carried away trying to create controversial content and blew it.

[@lemichaeldotson3254]

@@zackattack635 well said.

[@brandondaniels9471]

PBD 2024

[@richy12zzz]

I like Jason Whitlock. I get why he doesn’t want to talk with Roland. Roland is a straight up a psychopath. But, Pat is also right, don’t use the race card. It’s a good learning experience for Pat as well, cause I do think your guests should know beforehand who they are debating. Especially if it’s a enemy.

[@revayjones7554]

Um...he kind of did trash him lol. He was justified in doing so. Sounds like Jason was playing the victim and he called him out on his bull

[@jaredm730]

PBD knew exactly what he was doing. He is one of the most calculated people walking the earth today- which has helped get him to where he is.

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

FACT!!!!

[@osaji922]

I definitely believe he would have tried to defeat Martin with Whitlock's help, but he was definitely trying to rope Whitlock into this debate. They've tried the same thing with other people before.

[@jsanders9975]

I have to agree

[@mickferguson8850]

He's not that calculated if we see through him

[@PardonMyPresence]

Guess Whitlock is not fearless

[@MrMandino88]

After listening to both sides, it does seem like a bait and switch. Why didn’t you tell him from the beginning that Roland Martin would be there? You can’t just say panel because you have a panel every podcast. By the way, I’m a fan of this podcast but you should have been more transparent with your guests in the beginning.

[@konreww]

You tried to set him up. He figured panel meant “your crew”.

[@charcoalcowboy]

Yeah Jason explained it perfectly. They wanted two negros to fight for their entertainment

[@MiamiGuy305]

Exactly!!

[@kdogglv]

PBD you are the man but you should have been honest and up front with Whitlock

[@jonathanthainguyen]

How was he not upfront? I'm sure these ppl don't have time to hold everyone's hand and keep track of who doesn't like who. Only Whitlock knows who he doesn't want to talk to, so he should have asked who's gonna be on the panel. Not every show is a panel. If it says panel, just ask. Whitlock is a coward. Recently, he couldn't even push back on an antisemitic guest he had on, and maybe because he believes in the same thing.

[@chrissantos5580]

A con man being honest 😅 a honest man doesn't run a pyramid scheme

[@CranialExtractor]

Thank you for responding to Jason's show. Fan of both of yours. I can understand both sides. He invited Roland into his house and debated him for 2 hours. I can understand him not wanting to sit down with someone like Roland Martin again. The guy basically is a Troll of his on Twitter. Take care Patrick.

[@eigna8914]

What does that have to do with debating?

[@RocketsBlastoise]

@@eigna8914 do you debate trolls?

[@MrMurray32]

Because grown men have productive conversations. Not immature shouting matches.

[@yogo3798]

PBD lied to both Jason and Roland ? Why?

[@tetelestai5736]

I am with Jason on this one He saw right through it

[@solarpoweredafricanvegansp178]

Listening to both sides thoroughly, I’ve come to this conclusion. You pulled a bait and switch on him but then tried to clean it up. Bad business practice as you acknowledged, moving forward you’ll have everyone’s name listed on the panel from now on, so that you don’t get blasted by another person. It’s good that you learned and moved on

[@JoseysSportsNation]

Facts. Patrick tried to manipulate the situation

[@nonofyourbusiness7019]

Thank you. It’s honestly so refreshing to see some critical thinking in PBD comment section. I appreciate PBD but 95% of all his comments are usually people blowing smoke up his ass. I know this nation needs strong male/ father figures rn but damn..

[@syncereroyalty3923]

Facts he pulled some bs

[@ericpolio8535]

Jason was a fearful man in this one. Dont commit to a meeting when you have info on what's going down. Be fearless remember. Take the L receipt were presented. Next ask more questions and do more research. PBD and Crew carry on.. jason is clout chasing

[@crisjr6478]

I agree

[@LghTsKnJames]

For a YEAR I've been messaging Jason Whitlock & PBD about linking up for a show. Hearing all this is very unfortunate, especially coming from two men I respect. I hope all gets resolved and a show happens. Either in Nashville or Fort Lauderdale

[@omarali262]

Why would they have you on a show? What relevance do you have?

[@mohamudabdi5424]

@@omarali262 looks like you are lacking some basic comprehension skills. Try rereading the comment and see if you’ll get it the second time around.

[@acc4465]

@@omarali262 huh?

[@DjGaiden]

@@omarali262 I hope your job doesn’t require reading comprehension.

[@richy12zzz]

I like Jason Whitlock. I get why he doesn’t want to talk with Roland. Roland is a straight up a psychopath. But, Pat is also right, don’t use the race card. It’s a good learning experience for Pat as well, cause I do think your guests should know beforehand who they are debating. Especially if it’s a enemy.

[@chadog900]

PBD looking shady for this one. Considering the show is always a panel of PBD and his crew, one would've assumed this would be the setup. You don't tell a guest on arrival that another guest is on the panel. Did he send the same email to Sammy The Bull and Michael Fransese?

[@educatehour]

100 💯 so true

[@lRosettaStonedl]

He offered to do a normal podcast and Jason took his ball and went home lol

[@pcliftonjr]

@@lRosettaStonedl Yes, after he was busted. Would you trust someone who tried to set you up?

[@lRosettaStonedl]

@@pcliftonjr he wasn’t busted, it was a misunderstanding. I’m not a baby though so yeah.

[@jsanders9975]

If Jason Whitlock used that example Patrick would of said he's playing the race card 😂

[@cristao100porcento]

I think it's common sense to mention upfront who is going to be in a podcast. That was a big mistake

[@louisebrown4622]

Very true

[@michaelstopperich8528]

I like both! Great thoughts by both! PBD its on you and your staff to know if Whitlock has beef with someone, then notify him that he will be doing a show with him. I can definitely see how Whitlock feels like you set him up. My 2 cents.

[@kennedychinazos2017]

They clearly know this two people don’t see eye to eye so why set up a panel and not let them know they’ll be facing up with each other. This just ain’t right and clearly a set up. Can’t blame the man for backing out. At least let the man know beforehand

[@theexodusmedianetwork]

You can’t say Jason has feminine energy because he walks out on you misleading him. You displayed the feminine energy by misleading Jason for the sake of your podcast and content.

[@steverapos3904]

👏👏 bottom line - I don't think PBD understands how he deceived Jason - Jason was expecting a 1 on 1 interview.

[@stillirise7813]

@@steverapos3904 No jason was expecting a buffet on site! That is what they promised him. Poor guy!

[@steverapos3904]

@@stillirise7813 😂😂

[@BostonCollege1990]

I agree! I am surprised PBD did not apologize. You invite Jason on and do not let him know who is on the panel. Again, the panel is usually the home team. When it is not the home team you need to be very specific as to who the other guests are. Sorry PBD… Jason is in the right here. He did not play the race card. You did be inviting a conservative black person and with a democratic all time worst woke black person who plays victim. You should have said that you needed to clarify who is on the panel and you are sorry. Jason trusted you and you lost his trust justifiably so. I really respect Jason. His stance is very honorable.He has been fired from stations because he does not back down on his believes. Black people call him an Uncle Tom all not the time. He stands his ground and has finally landed at the BlAZE and he can be exactly who he wants to be. Honestly, you can not compare the Crowder mistake with this one.

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

Nah, Jason had feminine energy. Too scared to sit across from an idiot. Ran like a coward. Hypocrite. The fact he used the black card is hilarious. Even had a chance to just do a 1vs1. He misled himself and looks the worst out of this. On top of it, he whines and cries and leaks information online, just like the feminine energy he hates.

[@DDkVx9]

To be honest... a regular typical PBD podcast has the look and feel of a panel show anyway so I can see how someone would might draw the conclusion when it's a panel show that it'd just be them with PBD and the regulars instead of it being a sit down one on one. And I dont feel wanting to be prepared knowing you're walking into a serious debate has anything to do with being "Fearless" or "Fearful", it's just wanting to be prepared that's all! Just throwing my two cents in...

[@Qualitymobilevideo]

Exactly, it's a cheap shot by PBD to save face, not a good look.

[@MrMurray32]

Finally someone making since.

[@JorgeRamos-xw6dy]

Patrick is extremely reasonable that is as long as his guess agree with him. He has no problem with crack pot conspiracies but any opposition to his views and he is visibly not happy. If he is far right then say you are far right and stop pretending to be a man with an open mind.

[@jcobra99]

Patrick has always been intentionally manipulative. He knows exactly what he's doing he does it on intentionally on purpose. Id have more respect for him of he at least stood on it instead of playing games like hes dumb

[@db76177]

RIGHT ON

[@thesb2836]

you are correct in your assessment. PBD is shrewd.

[@Ru-gv2if]

Pat is not being honest. Lost all respect for him.

[@DenverJohn]

Spot on, now he's trying to sell us the idea that by using a generic term like "panel" he was open and transparent.

[@cadizcobn1573]

@@Ru-gv2if just because of that? Lool

[@kenwaring]

Apparently Whitlock assumed the "panel" was your home team. The fault seems to be with your booker not being as transparent as he should be.

[@brianbrady8312]

Its nice to see a person admit they effed up by not being completely transparent to their guest. Beyond resources there is a lot of time invested in delivering entertainment and that time once spent is lost.

[@ALCRAN2010]

Lost time? Or you could create content creator drama and still gather views. BPD is a Capitalist and will capitalize on this.

[@Usmcpb]

Roland would've gave both BET & Whitlock the business!! That mofo wasn't ready.

[@carlosmejia5824]

I just saw Jason Whitlock response to this video, man JW nailed it. Called PBD a used car salesman lol

[@NPFfumbi]

lol

[@rareosts5752]

That's very unclassy. That doesn't make Jason look good. I see the points of all sides here but PBD comes out of this looking so much better in terms of temperament.

[@gusphinizy2658]

@@rareosts5752 NONSENSE! PBD is worse than a used car salesman...... He is from a Family of THIEVES (Father and Uncle's) fled Iran with the Shah of Iran. The guy stole Hundreds of Millions of Dollars. You think they didn't get some of it? Please!!! He is born from Criminal seed. Fast talking Slime Ball. My Full of Chit alarm started buzzing 10 minutes into the very first video I ever watched of this Dude. I had to find out more about this CLOWN 🤡 that was gaining popularity among the nitwits of the World.

[@tyy5557]

JW was right. " A used car salesman".

[@carlosmejia5824]

@@rareosts5752 look what JW had to.go through, the man was set up. PBD then tries to brush it and then insults him.

[@billpardew2375]

You are wrong bro and it's kind of sad because I think you to agree on a whole lot of things.... And I don't even get why you don't understand why Roland Martin might be someone that a lot of people wouldn't want to get into a debate with because he is so loud rude and willing talk over anyone and everyone... In his persistence to try and win every argument....

[@HearBobbyRoar]

Wow. Your reaction and everything about this whole situation makes me have so much more respect for PBD. Bring people together and having dialogue is what this is all about. I can't stand podcasters that want to just stay in their bubble. I disagree with PBD a lot, but this, this is what conversation and debate is all about. Love brother.

[@richardellis8076]

Roland does interrupt people but you cannot dispute what he brings to the table, which are facts. PbD did not even know some of the facts that Roland brought up during the debate. He just dismissed them as opinion.

[@SMS-22]

I believe there could have been a little more transparency, but I certainly can see how some relevant details could be missed on both ends. This sounds like a great opportunity for two principled men to have a good conversation and make amends.

[@bm421]

Yes, hope it happens!

[@ekowbans5575]

Agreed

[@siddeeq3712]

Right on point!

[@Super-c00n]

This honestly sounds like it was just a misunderstanding.

[@Freethecommons]

What a coward. He should be game to debate anyone.

[@turnbucklemagazine7296]

You and your producer created the issue with Jason by changing the original plan of the one on one just a couple days before the interview. Sending just one email that Friday before and not repeatedly following up and confirming everything was a shortcoming by your team. All the issues that happened after that are just the symptoms from your original mistake. Jason isnt without fault too but this is your show not his. Also, the Roland Martin interview may have gotten good numbers but the substance of the show was among the worst interviews you've done because of the guest's inability to directly answer a question. Love your podcast and welcome to the world of media. I worked in it for 20+ years so I sympathize with the challenging management of personalities and egos that are part of the process of creating great content. Keep on killing it and knocking mainstream media on its ass.

[@andrewdishman26]

PBD was on Joe Rogan about a year ago and wanted Joe to bring Trump on and Obama and sort of trick them into being in the sane room together and he thought it would be good for the country. So this type of thing is not new the PBD . Joe thought it was a dumb idea.

[@shanewoods1980]

Jason is “with fault” trying to spin this narrative on PBT, I personally don’t give a crap about either one of them but Jason was a little bitch about it after having his transportation, airfare, and accommodations covered. So that’s yellow and cowardly of him

[@fosiko123]

@@shanewoods1980 while should Jason trust him again after he found out he lied to him; your word should be your integrity; unless that doesn't count anymore in this generation

[@shanewoods1980]

@@fosiko123 he shouldn’t!! As none should trust Jason either, pat still gave receipts something I’ve noticed is missing on Jason’s end IMO

[@fosiko123]

@@shanewoods1980 Just because he show receipts on air doesn't mean a jack; you need to read the whole contents of the email- he never mentioned Roland will be in the show; that's the problem !!!!! why he didnt ??? be cause he knows damn well JW will not come; that so called email(receipts) is not good enough; he's still been dishonest and he acknowledge that too; that next time he will do better; by been clear upfront

[@kelvinthompson2681]

Start sending “Read Receipts” with those important emails lol😅

[@velmanevarez2263]

Jason wasn’t name calling. He was explaining what happened.

[@recondolaidy-slayer8468]

Jason Whitlock looks like the big black guy from the ft long mandingoschlong Meme😂 y’all know what I’m talking about, the one that thicker then a snicker

[@rock1texan429]

Yep. He proved it was a setup. They never said he was coming on to debate anyone, especially Martin. This is gotcha BS. Hopefully people see thru this fraud and clown Patrick. It is easy to see what happened here.

[@StephenMungudit]

Pat really knows how to handle almost everyone 😂

[@christurner8255]

Check out my boy PyschoBabble Rapps. He's an amazing social commentator.

[@oldtimer5316]

Exactly! He does so easily because he’s direct and honest and will call out the baloney. 👏

[@irondoglocal4333]

Rolland ate him alive with facts

[@Rusty-Metal]

@@irondoglocal4333 exactly!

[@philobetto5106]

@@oldtimer5316 'what about full of braunschweiger? lol

[@gilbertfierro98]

I can see both sides of this, but your sneaky tactics to trick your guest to debate is beneath you sir. Trying to weasel your way around that mistake only furthers Whitlock’s point. Still love your content sir.

[@clementletang6651]

So why didn't you guys let your guest know who would be on the panel? 😂😂😂You guys are funny

[@MrMurray32]

Factz.

[@shanewilliams5150]

Feminine Energy got you clement

[@cobbler88]

@Soltron Because what was agreed to was an interview - not a panel. Why would Jason ask if anyone else would be present?

[@cobbler88]

@Soltron Irrelevant. He agreed to do an interview - not a panel. As such he had no reason to comb through any subsequent correspondence looking for further details beyond travel, lodging and scheduling. Hell, even in the description here it's fairly obvious they kind of buried that little revelation further down in the correspondence. When you agree to a dinner date with details to come later, when that next message comes with the details, do you keep scrolling just to make sure there's nothing about the addition of a few extra people to that dinner, or do you just assume that these are details for the one-on-one you agreed to? Take care

[@fosiko123]

@Soltron he asked the first time; david and his crew change it to a panel in a vague email ; and they have a duty to inform him of changes, what's wrong with this world we live in

[@Jason-py6pm]

Ummm....you should've told him that Roland was on the panel bro.

[@TheWeebinar]

If you book someone for an interview you shouldn't be surprised if they don't like it when you switch it up to a panel 3 days before the actual date without any notice. Sure Jason could have done a more through job of reading the email and that's on him but if you book someone for something and then switch it up without expressly stating that people won't like it regardless of if you're Dan Bongino or Patrick Bet-David or whoever.

[@waleswales9690]

You've a good point. From what I know now, every show you miss costs the presenter money so that's why Jason was pissed especially as the content of the material was changing

[@FrankGallagher-OG]

They legit gave him notice in the email, are u high ⁉️

[@7SlicesOfPizza]

I run a small business operation and yeah I would have specifically mentioned WHO was coming on as panel instead of just saying there is going to be a panel. I feel like this should be obvious so that you let everyone know ahead exactly what is happening. This could look like you were setting someone up for "drama" which it seems like it did. I hope Pat had a talk with Rob;head of talent relations. this was Rob's mistake.

[@chillones9574]

totally agree, just saying Panel makes me think it was the four usually mates and Jason, no mention of Roland was shady as heck.

[@funkspinna]

If it mattered who was on the panel he should have asked who would be part of the panel.

[@mbp7060]

I agree. Not saying who was on the panel in the first email seems shady.

[@dylanhawthorne4842]

@@funkspinnathat could 100% read like it was just him and the regular crew of the show

[@richy12zzz]

I hope Pat can make it right with Jason and have him on. That would make a good podcast

[@mj-yy9ri]

You should discuss the guests prior, not only mention at the confirmation. A confirmation confirms which was discussed earlier, not add something new.

[@peacelove4528]

Patrick it’s your responsibility to disclose who’s on the panel. You and Whitlock are both great people try and fix it. You should have a one on one in a neutral surrounding. Good luck!!

[@gunnyjwells1977]

I learned a lot from both takes. I'm a JW fan but I appreciate the grown-up conversation. Good on you both.

[@HUMINT1]

So true and great comment sir. I’m a JW fan and appreciate his views as well. I watched both men talk about the incident and although PBD has a somewhat different view of not only the incident but what was said I think it’s a wash. As in let it go. Both men seem to be amazingly intelligent and I support both of them. ✌🏽🇺🇸🙏

[@MrMurray32]

I’m a fan of Jason & Patrick as well. But the fact that Jason wasn’t aware that Rolland was on the panel until interview time is inexcusable. Valuetainment dropped the ball here. You guys were 100% in the wrong.

[@HUMINT1]

@@MrMurray32 If in your comment you meant “you guys” as in pointing at me then yes I admit I spoke a bit prematurely on this matter. I had not heard a more descriptive in detail response from JW and what his full take was from this experience. Now knowing what I know after hearing what I heard from JW I fully see JW’s point on this. I’ve take no issue in you thinking we were both 100% percent wrong but if you read my full comment they both had differing opinions on the matter. I’m a JW fan at heart. Even when he speaks about things I don’t have strong opinions on. Anyways I value your take as well. Thanks for your input. ✌🏽✌🏽🙏

[@Logie_Mills]

You should still try to have Jason on. He’s great. Been listening to him for over a decade.

[@ugabuga1361]

listening to what? sports? you really waste your time watching and listening to sports? let alone a 300 lbs fat guy who has never done a push up let alone played professional sports.

[@Logie_Mills]

@@ugabuga1361 he played at Ball St.

[@Logie_Mills]

@@harrym9655 very shortsighted comment

[@ugabuga1361]

@@Logie_Mills professional....... college isnt professional..... my goodness

[@Logie_Mills]

@@ugabuga1361 you said he never did a push up… and I replied that he played at Ball St against nfl talent

[@macfan128]

lol so you blindsided him by changing the format at almost the last minute and you wonder why he's annoyed? come on.,. you originally told him he was coming in for an interview and then changed it to a "panel discussion" which was really supposed to be a debate

[@tylerbaxter4199]

I don’t blame Jason for walking out. Seems stetchy last minute to try and turn it into a black on black debate when clearly that’s not what was advertised to him to begin with. Then you add in the PBD team keeping them separated while arriving at the location and it just seems shady tbh

[@alarias4575]

Whitlock did go a little overboard but you were wrong all the way through. The original email said nothing about debating police reform on a panel for one. 2nd he’s not fearful of Roland Martin, he clearly stated the guy is not a serious person, which seems evident after seeing a part of the podcast you actually did with Martin. 3rd if you didn’t see it as a set up, why would have to feel out Whitlock in the green room, just have him come up and start the show. 4th why would he ask who’s on the panel, I would assume it’s the usual suspects on the show, not another guest of whom he’s got history with.

[@chillones9574]

agree

[@nicolekhoshaba4416]

💯

[@Ru-gv2if]

alarias4575 THIS!

[@Ru-gv2if]

Doomnotron - Correct. Pat still is not being on the up and up. He's lost credibility.

[@marvinj71]

I like Jason.. definitely disappointed he wasnt on Pat’s show but sounds kinda sketchy that he was notified last minute that Roland was gonna be on show as well😂😂

[@db76177]

yeah they were being VERY deceptive with that "PANEL DISCUSSION" bs...PBD was in the wrong

[@chillones9574]

@@doomnotron for real. clearly something was left out about who would be on the pod that day. Not coming through front is another signal to me that PBD was wrong.

[@ky6632]

He easily could have asked and he knew the subjects. Jason has been in the business a LONG time. Also, there's almost no excuse for not just doing the 1:1 podcast if he didn't want to talk with somebody. Pat has interviewed Shaq, Kobe, Italian Mob, the list goes on. Do we seriously think he's trippin that hard on Jason Whitlock?

[@zackattack635]

@@ky6632 what kind of loser would play games with these people after their sneaky trick didn’t work out.

[@zackattack635]

@@Darth_SurgeYo he already did it with Roland Martin dum dum. He did it in 2018 and it’s on KZbin. It was a fruitless discussion because Martin is a shameless liar.

[@RoddyShaffer]

Clearly Whitlock was correct to Jet. I like him more now. Obviously not a guy that's into game playing. Then pbd tries to say he was Fearful for leaving? Nah, just a no nonsense dude. It was more than lack of communication, it was deliberate. Wasting a man's time

[@madeby.zackkattack]

I think it’s possible that there was a misunderstanding or an overlooking of the “panel” email. I listened to the audio version ofJason’s show and I didn’t get the impression that he knew he was going to be apart of a panel.

[@Fieldsherbert]

I agree a hundred percent accurate assessment. Jason didn't know anything about a panel discussion.

[@madeby.zackkattack]

@@Fieldsherbert yeah based on both sides take on the story, there had to be some sort of misunderstanding or miscommunication or something. I don’t get the impression that Whitlock took time to go to Florida for this “panel” only to just bail like that. That just doesn’t make sense to me…

[@tyweb8guy197]

Yeah i love both you guys - Patrick Bet-David & Jason Whitlock. It just sounds like you had a guy in the show (Roland) that Jason Whitlock just didn't wanna have anything to do with. And splitting up the podcast into "Jason Whitlock goes first" and "Roland goes second" would have meant that Roland would have been able to cross-examine anything Whitlock said. And if Jason Whitlock sees Roland as a terrible human being & a personal stalker - why would Whitlock ever want Roland cross-examining him? Yeah when it comes to personal stuff like that, you really gotta let someone know exactly who they are debating, before they agree to do it.

[@vversusv1364]

Sure, but it sounds like JW was saying things about PBD and Co. that was a bit out of line, like it was a setup and the feminine energy stuff.

[@Blazing10101]

@@vversusv1364 it was you watch the actually interview with Roland. Be a man of your word be honest is what Jason saying

[@JPSMASHER80]

Y’all tried to pull a fast one on Whitlock. Y’all shady bro.

[@lee2live782]

The thing I don’t get you know Jason Whitlock and Roland Martin had beef for years. I think you learned speaking to Roland Martin why Jason doesn’t want to waste his time with him. 3 days before the interview you bring it up no where in there did you say with Roland Martin. Jason agreed to speak about his career originally you tried to pull a fast one

[@paulcoffland8673]

This show was always a 1 to 1 so I can easily see where Jason saw this as a setup. I have nothing but respect for Jason, and that Martin is a snake.

[@bloodkeper12]

But it say panel, IT SAY PANEL!!!! Jason knows English it said PANEL🤔

[@zackattack635]

@@bloodkeper12 “panel” has always been presented as his normal guys, his “Home Team”. If you want a debate, call it a debate and tell the parties the details. PBD would never bring on Ben Shapiro and sneakily add David Pakman to the panel without prior arrangement. Shapiro would feel disrespected and leave. Pat would have more respect for Shapiro than to do that… which is Whitlock’s point. Why did Pat think it was okay to disrespect him?

[@damienfallon8980]

and Whitlock is a coward afraid of Martin.

[@zackattack635]

@@damienfallon8980 nobody is afraid of Roland Martin. He’s a woke troll who shucks and jives for his masters.

[@rebeccaw68]

@bloodkeper12 What say panel? When you are a professional , you make very clear your intentions. If it was a panel, he should not have told Jason it was about him and his history/show in the email. He used the word interview. It is the host's responsibility to make very clear what the format is, esp since he has interviewed people one on one. Patrick saw an opportunity for a dog fight and changed at the last minute. Unprofessional. And Jason was not scared of Martin. He has debated him before and knows it's a waste of time, just like it was for Patrick.

[@RideshareDaily]

Was totally unaware of Whitlock coming on as a guest or what he said about it, but I like that you're clearing the air with the EMAIL chain, though I can see on his side how you could be clearer about whose coming on with him as well. And to your credit, you admitted that you're going to course correct in that protocol, so good job 👍.

[@richy12zzz]

Agreed. I think every guest should know who they are debating. Especially if the other side is a psychopath like Roland.😂😂😂

[@lloydgray829]

Thats BS he was trying to cover his a.. with a lot of slick BS talk. Jason thought the it was a sit down between the two to talk about Jason's career. He sounds like a used car salesman. Wasting Jason's time with that BS with woke Roland Martin. Very deceitful guy.

[@RideshareDaily]

@@lloydgray829 That's possible. Maybe that was the intent, but how would you or I know? Maybe PBD was looking for fireworks between the two guests, but... we don't know that, and I think the EMAIL chain, and the admission that the podcast team will learn from this and course correct seems to me to show an honest mistake in how Whitlock was handled. It was a mistake. PBD admits that. I'm sure he would have rathered podcast with both guests that day. I can certainly understand why Whitlock would feel it was an intentional move on PBD's part. I get it. But we don't know that. To me it was just a missed opportunity for all of them content-wise. At the same time, I'm not really a fan of the conversation that was published with RM, because I think it was more entertainment than anything else.

[@williamsentell]

@@RideshareDaily It could have went both ways… nonetheless, when someone is doing a panel interview: The guest are ALWAYS Notified who will be attending this way; they are prepared for the topics & segments… You can’t schedule an interview w/ proper protocols-especially when you have a guest like Roland Martin who’s mainly “emotional” driven w/ takes that lack factual data to backup most of his claims… In the end, I still rock w/ PBD & I’ll glad he’s cleaning it up… But let’s keep it real… When you say an panel interview… You would think his normal podcast members b/c it’s about 4 of them alllllll ttthhhheeee Timmmeeee TOGETHER!!! Just saying

[@jonjaime]

@@williamsentell exactly 💯 I like Patrick but that was very sneaky of him. Hope this is resolved in due time.

[@Steve-Willie]

And one year later, PBD is looking worse and Jason Whitlock looking more honest. PBD is being exposed.

[@taron.y]

These are my two favorite shows on KZbin and to see this beef saddens me. We can’t go down this road fellas.

[@bromack3]

I feel the same way. I'm sure they'll find a way to make it work down the road.

[@zechariahcameron3645]

I love Jason, but he seems to always have some beef. He hates Clay Travis now.

[@joshua_226]

@@zechariahcameron3645 wait.. Why???

[@dougieefresh1829]

*Roland Goes to McDonalds* (A trip) "Welcome to McDonalds, what can I get for you?" "HOLD ON! You aren't getting me anything, you're takin my order" "Ok..Can I take your order sir?" "It's MAY I take your order" "May I take your order sir" *distant honk from the back of the line* "HELL NO! I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH THIS SHIT!" *PEELS OUT STILL SCREAMING* "IT'S SYSTEMIC" *Wrecks car pulling out* *Goes live on Instagram" "They set me up DAMMMITTT!!" *Goes Viral* *DefundThePolice* Trends Worldwide *Walgreens Looted, last remaining statue defecated on* *Roland collects donations chuckling*

[@mrdanger4035]

You're 💯 spot on!!!!

[@elizabethpaier1411]

OMG !!!! ROLAND IS IMPOSSIBLE ! IL EST TRES, TRES MAL !!!

[@christopheryoung194]

Communication is everything

[@TheAllAmericanSocialistMTR1000]

Fearless* with Jason Whitlock.

[@tomd7811]

Debating Roland would have been "Pointless with Jason Whitlock". Jason was misled by PBD.

[@js6752]

I watched PBD and Jason’s videos multiple times. 1) PBD’s podcast is always a panel, so it’s reasonable to assume “the panel” is the home team. 2) For months, valuetainment pursued him on the basis of discussing his career. 3) Everything was so last minute - I don’t think PBD was acting in bad faith. 4) I think PBD watched a lot more Whitlock than Whitlock watched PBD.

[@brandonfreeman6517]

he probably thought panel meant everyone that's on YOUR podcast, not another guest.

[@Thumper68]

Roland did an interview with Jason like 4 years ago if you watch it you will realize why he wouldn’t want to be on panel with him. Roland interrupted him the entire time and take what he was saying and twist it to what he believed he was saying and not what actually was said. He just wanted to argue with him. It’s on Roland’s channel.

[@shaylagortman2322]

It's called running with your tail between your legs.

[@Thumper68]

@@shaylagortman2322 ok

[@kennethsimmons963]

Yeah but Roland be right and Jason ain't nuttin but a stupid yes man too conservatives

[@jorgemarcos6868]

It's the communist dialectic: interrupt or accuse you on a different subject.

[@UndergroundMonk]

Jason was right. You cannot have a debate with someone like Rolan. Please do not invite guest on like him.

[@michaelbennett9859]

PBD's team made a mistake so glad they are being somewhat accountable. They never mentioned Roland in the initial emails and the initial correspondence was about doing a solo interview, so it is a tad sly to change it to a panel a few days before when someone has already booked the time to come in. That info could of easily been missed when you get as many emails as I'm sure Jason does. He's already debated and ruined Roland, no need to keep kicking a dead horse. Honestly the episode with Roland alone wasn't entertaining.

[@robertsmith5912]

Pat you are so disingenuous. You intentionally brought both these men with the intent of having fireworks on your show

[@tommyjones6866]

This is lame. I don't like Jason Whitlock, nor Roland Martin. But its clear you tried to set up this debate between them for views right after the Tyre Nichols situations. Why describe it as a "panel discussion" when its really a 1 v 1 debate? Obviously the guest, who you previously said would be the only guest, would expect the "panel" to only include themselves and the hosts (because thats what they previously agreed to). Why just call it a "panel discussion" instead of telling everyone exactly who would be on the panel? Why go through the trouble of calling the limo driver and saying "make sure you take your time and bring him through the back?" Even if there was no rush, it makes no sense to tell the driver to just waste time on the roads when you could have the guest actually in the studio? All the doo-doo don't pass the smell test.

[@jimfoster7986]

I think the initial email should have stated who was on the panel. Jason may have thought the panel was the normal show’s panel.

[@indianairlines]

Exactly. PBD was definitely at fault here. Of course, straight up, you tell the invited guest who else is on the panel within the first email. This was a cardinal error by PBD.

[@JohnDChaney]

Pat, after watching this video, I went to see who Jason Whitlock is (I assumed I would know who he was considering I follow many conservative commentators). I found the video where he thinks he was setup by VT. After watching your video and his, I can see how this happened. I'm not going to go through the whole scenario, but I can see how he could be a little suspicious of how this played out. I highly respect you and you did a great job explaining your intentions but I can also see how he must have felt. After watching his video, he explained that he has a history with Roland. He is spot on about Roland being a paid attack dog for the left. I can see why he wouldn't want to waste his time sitting through the garbage salad that Roland speaks. You wouldn't want to do that either. It would look more like a episode of Jerry Springer. Would you invite Thomas Sowell or Milton Freidman on to discuss and issue with someone like Roland? I would hope not. When it comes to "debating" people like Roland, there is no debate because people like him have no intention on debating. He only knows how to mudsling lies. People like Roland don't need to be given a platform to promote their hate. I could see that even you were upset with him during the podcast. And you only dealt with him one time. I sometimes do panel discussions in my industry and the panel is always defined days before the discussion. I think the biggest mistake was not making those involved aware of who they would be debating. I know you made it clear that VT would never do that again. That's why I respect you. You learn from your mistakes. I pray that VT and Jason have a conversation about this and apologies are offered in both directions.

[@ALCRAN2010]

No shit. You would think that background research is a good debater's primary tool. They took that away from him.

[@JL-yu1qu]

PBD its shame you cannot understand Whitlocks position. There was NO need for you to do this. YOU and your team should have made clear who the panel was consisting of weeks before and let him decide what he wanted to do. No need to show the email exchange. You guys should have just apologized and gotten him on another day. It makes you all look small by basically justifying yourselves and using your platform to make Whitlock look bad. Roland is a disgrace and if you saw him debate Douglas Murray you would understand why Whitlock did not want to bother. You’re in the business of getting eyeballs but if you’re going to use the adage, by any means necessary then there’s no need to waste our time.

[@luckysportQuick]

Please guys, fix this. I like both of you.

[@BobbyM7847]

Jason is a snowflake

[@MegaDrew1984]

Hope you guys can patch things up. Like his material too.

[@oscarwarren469]

They both don't like da coloureds...weak altright koolaid.

[@jamilmartinez7471]

What a miss opportunity, I would’ve love to see Pat David and Jason Whitlock podcast

[@frankhanson9260]

what's to see.... they are on the same side on most hot issues. whitlock brings no expertise....just wild opinions. he gained his claim to fame by just making shocking statements that were way off base.

[@elphusdlamini7267]

@@frankhanson9260 Is it about expertise or about hearing different views on the table?

[@cobbler88]

I think the thing here was that this was not an opportunity. Not as long as it was a panel with that troll present. It was doomed to be a sideshow of no value, just as it turned out to be.

[@joeradler]

BS. PBD's hired driver for Whitloc said SPECIFICALLY that PBD told him to drive around a while so he didn't see Roland Martin coming into the studio.

[@exclamationpointman3852]

You know what: Pat went down a notch for me. I did not know that. PUNK MOVE, PAT!!!!!!!!

[@joeradler]

@@exclamationpointman3852 right? That on top of hiring serial liar and shamless propagandist, Chris "Fredo" Cuomo to be a regular guest on the show ...