"They Were WRONG!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson In Heated Vaccine Debate With Patrick Bet-David

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In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David, Neil Tyson and Adam Sosnick talk about whether people should be forced to take the vaccine.
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[@JohnGalt21]

A true man admits how little he truly knows. An idiot will work like mad for you to think he’s right, even when he’s not.

[@gerk7238]

Hahahahha let me guess Pbd is right and the scientist is wrong. Of course!!! You sycophants are astonishing 😅😅

[@heartandmindovercome3214]

@@gerk7238 Yes, the celebrity scientist (who's paid to push a narrative) is not automatically right just because he's a scientist. 🤣 Also, you're deliberately mischaracterizing Arthur here, as he's not trying to flatter anyone. He made a vague statement and didn't even name any names. It's obvious that YOU are presuming Neil to be, and recognizing Neil as, "the idiot working like mad to make you think he's right." Once again, it was a vague statement, no names mentioned, you filled in the blanks yourself. If you didn't think that to be true, you may have said, "I know, it's amazing how much of a true man and how humble Neil is in his knowledge, and that Patrick is like a con artist with his logical fallacies. Why the hell is he trying to convince us so hard? What does he have to gain? Does he really care about people that much, he's gotta convince us "for our own good," because we're just too dumb to understand. We all know that's not true at this point though. Thanks for confirming it. 👍

[@YourMom-ro1ig]

@@gerk7238 well the scientist (astrophysicist) repeatedly claimed that it blocked transmission (get the shot to protect others), which is demonstrably false. So you’re choosing to believe the scientist because he’s a scientist (in a completely different field), regardless of the fallacies he’s spewing, yet WE are the sycophants??? What a good little media parroting sheep you are. Bless your heart.

[@markwinklerooufc4692]

Well said😊

[@kevinquartemont2313]

@ge rk hahahaha, yeah, right? Because everyone knows scientists are never wrong.. hahahaha

[@seanstack180]

“It’s easy to fool a man, but it’s nearly impossible to convince him he’s been fooled.” - Mark Twain

[@thebrothersrandom]

Love this!!!

[@odomisan]

Completely impossible if that man is the one fooling everyone.

[@MichaelCGatesMusic]

AWESOME quote! That's why keep going deeper and deeper...

[@АлакПатрова]

This guy is an idiot. It was TRIALS and those should be named as safe or sure as hell not mandated.

[@qualeonard5057]

Lmao jokes on you this man is not being fooled. He is an actor and a shill he knows exactly what he is doing.

[@kingkawala767]

I love the extreme contrast between someone who thinks they know what they're talking about and someone who actually does it's refreshing

[@danielostrom566]

Right? I love when someone not in the scientific community thinks they know what they’re talking about.

[@britneyystaples91]

​@@danielostrom566 Yeah but in hindsight im pretty sure everybody now knows that Niel was wrong.

[@maddhopps]

@britneyystaples91, what did Neil say that has been shown to be wrong? Every statement he made still applies today. And even if we suddenly learned that the covid vax causes people to grow a 3rd arm, Neil was speaking about the data available at the time when our governments were making decisions about how to contain covid. The balancing of freedoms with public safety are absolutely applicable. Remember when the evil government mandated that you get MMR vaccines before attending public school?

[@randyjohnson9808]

“Long Covid” I’ll just leave that there.

[@tryingtobefairandobjective3480]

@@britneyystaples91 Sorry that your family neglected your education.

[@ChrisTowner-p9g]

PBD trying to debate a scientist on science. Degrasse speaking facts and shutting him down

[@Fknbadfkr]

Degrass spoke some facts, but facts based on blind faith of the approval of the vax. not the actual facts we knew and now see about it being a lie and scam. a power move. he is just speaking in circles and generalization like people defending their willingness to comply.

[@asheruk9064]

“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

[@nagulf]

Exactly. All these podcasters getting views on vaccine denialism will never be able to accept that the science is clear that the vaccines are safe and effective.

[@pigzcanfly444]

Abiogenesis research included.

[@jessieurena7583]

The irony of this comment

[@marvinheemeyer6660]

If enough money told him that the vaccine never harmed anyone he'd be screaming it. Personal greed over moral compass is what leads to this B.S.

[@pigzcanfly444]

@@marvinheemeyer6660 the Bible got it right. 👍

[@MavericSun]

I liked that cigarettes in bars argument cause they both tie into public health concerns. You have the right to smoke your heart out just not in my face.

[@nankerphelge3771]

Right. The "you have the right to an abortion" argument is beyond stupid. Last time I looked pregnancy wasn't contagious.

[@cwonderment]

As well as not purposely infecting another person with AIDS.

[@sweetpuppies1065]

@@nankerphelge3771I’m not so sure about that. I’ve noticed with my young colleagues that the moment one of them has a baby, several others get pregnant soon after. 😊

[@Notagain640]

​@@nankerphelge3771

[@kadenarden1952]

​@@sweetpuppies1065 😂 lol.

[@Dale_Sigmon]

This interview put the last nail in the coffin of ever listening to this man about anything.

[@tylerholloway579]

The first JRE podcast I saw with him on there did it for me

[@Dale_Sigmon]

@@tylerholloway579 I use to give people some leeway on shit but not anymore. It's to much. He was/is wrong and will probably lose a lot for being so bull headed on it

[@Dale_Sigmon]

@@Maya-ig9kx Neil

[@hugoanderkivi]

@Dale Sigmon I mean he is off-rails. Geert Vanden Bossche is an expert and is extremely rational about this. Neil is more like the opposite.

[@NM-pn2bc]

I agree. Patrick was proven wrong over and over again.

[@mytmouse57]

Some people have an incredibly juveniles concept of “freedom”. Freedom requires responsibility - not just “I get to do whatever I want, no matter what.”

[@ABitefLife]

Such an excellent point

[@Jahsurfer]

@@mytmouse57 So are you saying that an experimental drug can be forced on people against their will? Instead of making some huge generalization to sound profound, why don't you make a specific point?

[@yaboi8130]

@@Jahsurferyou weren’t forced, your job has the freedom to require protections from contagious diseases. You have the freedom to find a different job

[@mytmouse57]

@@Jahsurfer You lost credibility at "experimental drug." Quit listening to conspiracy theory nuts and professional bullshitters with a political agenda. Go read some actual facts based on actual research and get back to me.

[@Jahsurfer]

@@yaboi8130 Maybe English is not your first language so if you look up "forced" in the dictionary, it says "obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power." Or "make (someone) do something against their will."

[@skyseem7620]

“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong.”

[@1lebero]

Great comment

[@kuba27kuba27]

PERFECT

[@Ron-cg2hf]

Neil is not listening to his own advice. Science should be open to questions on vaccine safety. Instead, Fauci and his minions squelched any questions about the safety of the vaccines.

[@Notorious1441]

The ironic thing is when laymen use this quote against people who are actually highly educated.

[@lockheartrobin7114]

@@Notorious1441 Education is no measure of intelligence... Tyson is the poster boy for this atm.

[@richardbabulal1648]

He is exactly what a lot of people are right now .........can't admit they were wrong and pushed the fear.........

[@nostalgiaman6816]

My thoughts exactly.

[@nostalgiaman6816]

Tyson just keeps moving that goal post

[@paulpersons799]

Easy reply, elaborate

[@thesanfranciscoseahorse473]

Then let them drown in their fear. I hate the dishonesty. Just say you're afraid and you don't have all the answers!

[@rexmentula1089]

Oh, and we forgot about the immature namecalling like "antivaxxer" that they throw at their opponents trying to degrade them - often when they know they are on thin ice and haven't much to back up their stories and narratives. Looks weak and it is weak.

[@romans1vs6teen]

The more I listen to each of these guys, the respect continues to grow for the one but diminishes with the other.

[@erikcasella4826]

Huh thinking the opposite, imagine the next pandemic where something is way worse than Covid…No republicans would get that vaccine now

[@takotako808]

Yuppppp bye bye any respect for Neil

[@takotako808]

@You're Wrong right 😂 trust the science.... But trust in the narrative first 👍👍

[@mrhow2712]

@@takotako808 He's just the government mouthpiece, They pay him to sell their BS to the public! . He's another piece of sellout trash!

[@deirdre2000]

1 minute in and I totally agree with you.

[@MichaelBuieFilms]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is making perfect sense and the anti-vaxxers in the comments think he's dumb. This country is lost, right now. I pray it gets better.

[@DJfit]

All God's fault

[@meisievannancy]

Well he gets it right sometimes but he is inconsistent.

[@Honkiavelli]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

[@PiCheZvara]

This quote is more true than might seem at first glance. I happened to be at a workplace where I encountered some people who were like this and after a long time of being provoked, I snapped, got dragged down to their level and yeah, they then beat me with experience because the behavior they displayed in an attempt to win, I honestly find it still hard to believe adults are capable such absurd and embarrassingly stupid, non-sensicel and brash behavior to get their way. Like really, this quote is an interesting food for thought, but if you're forced to actually experience every word of it. Few things in life are as soul crushing as this. Oh and I might add my own variation from this experience - "Never let stupid people know you're smarter than them, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

[@paddaman2003]

Neil is obviously not the stupid one, ever!

[@ko7305]

kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control....Godless people will always create hell !!!

[@pbot6593]

@@paddaman2003 Good one. Seriously though, he shouldn't speak scientifically beyond astronomy. He's ridiculous

[@paddaman2003]

@@pbot6593 he's a scientist!

[@HighwayMike]

You will never convince someone who is determined to believe a lie.

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

It crumbles their ego, what did you expect

[@mosehlewi3081]

Speaking of yourself I see. Let me guess the 2020 elections was rigged as well?

[@wastingmylifeaway4898]

Based on so many comments on this video, I'm just going to assume you think that Neil is the one who believes a lie.

[@APT420]

​@@wastingmylifeaway4898aw, darn! Did you get the jab?

[@lloydgush]

You'll never convince someone who's living depends on a lie.

[@stephenyork7318]

17:38 - yes “let me take the risk” … but that then puts others at risk. We live in a society, to be a part of the society care for others by being involved in something that has the chance to protect us all as a groups OR go somewhere else and build your own society

[@mpup54]

The problem is that we were sold that science had an answer for this. They did not. That virus circled the globes many times and got more virulent as it went. His entire premise we had some miracle shot to save us is inaccurate to begin with. Failed shots and standing 6 feet apart with paper masks had little to no bearing on our protection from this virus. Maybe they should have made an actual antigen RNA virus instead of trying to be cute with some experimental attempt.

[@keshontruitt3935]

Yeah. I love driving while drunk. Others should respect my decision and not comment on my choices. 😂

[@TerryFoster-j7r]

Wtf does my vaccine have to do with your health? Lmao

[@zeroceiling]

His response to the athletes in Europe going from 29 deaths to 1000 / 1500 deaths after vaccination…was a masterclass of deflection from the question to a discussion of Covid death rates in the general population. This was actually breathtaking in how not on point it managed to be.

[@wexpmedia5889]

Correlation =/= causation. They teach you that in middle school science classes. Find a better argument

[@mrboombastic8369]

We don't know if there is a link between the vaccines and those deaths, i mean, so much things were different in these last years, who knows... But i believe a lot of deads were prevented in Covid because of vaccination and not just for old people or with diseases. In a lot of countries where the public health is not as good as in US or Europe for instance, died many young people. My wife is Brazilian and knows a lot of people under 50 and even 40 years old that died from Covid.

[@tapsunofficial]

He smashed it tho

[@crispycruiser4654]

@@wexpmedia5889 Listen here buffoon. When the “scientists” involved have a vested interest in not verifying causation, whether it is simply money, ego investment, or whether they’re being threatened by their superiors, then we are forced to draw our own conclusions anecdotally. When a teenager dies of heart failure in bed 72 hours after vaccination, and it is a foregone conclusion 100/100 times that the vaccine had “no connection”, then we will use Ockham’s Razor, with or without your permission. Correlation does not equal causation is your go to and the go to of VAERS so as to maintain plausible deniability for every single death.

[@royceturia1562]

You're right

[@billflipper1130]

It's easier to fool someone than get them to admit they've been fooled.

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

Facts

[@Chris-xl6pd]

Also the smartest people can craft many logics to preserve their bias.

[@georgepoly4842]

How does that apply here?

[@hebson21]

Surprising considering the scientific method is to be rigorously skeptical trying to constantly prove things wrong, to make them more valid as a result. Meanwhile scientists buy the news harder than anyone i know.

[@Steven-wv3qm]

See religion.

[@shukuraltay6781]

I took the V because I wasn’t allowed to be present in the labor room along with my wife to welcome our 1st baby. However, my wife wasn’t vaccinated. Then after 6-7 months later I was the 1st person caught the virus before anybody else in my household then it spread to our baby boy then my wife, pregnant to our 2nd child. I was the one suffered the most compere to them.

[@jon_s]

Why didn't you rather hire some midwives and have your child at home? You're the people empowering this scam system

[@Wellnessdrinkingbuddy]

Wow. Are all you guys okay now? I wonder what the “smartest scientist in the world” would have to say about your experience

[@vanderumd11]

Males have that response generally..

[@artificialintelligence8388]

It is also possible you would have been even worse off if you did not take the vaccine (e.g. hospitalized, dead).

[@MegaAbux]

I got the vaccine and I didn't get covid at all, I was going to a gym 3-4 times a week and I was in the same room with people who had it and I was fine.

[@nedkent5239]

This is total the old Smokers debate! “Because my freedoms are more important than your freedoms!” It’s not your right to poison other people. It infringes on their freedoms!

[@kadenarden1952]

True. I'm a smoker, but out of respect, I don't smoke around non-smokers

[@ShaneLester.]

Man, its been the first time i can honestly say i've laughed instead of watched in terror as someone I used to admire falls apart. I knew he was probably an arrogant guy who i'd never want to just hang out with. But I atleast thought he had values and morals enough to not sit and lie and fight against something he knows is obvious. Hes doin' a terrible job hiding his deception. The shaky hands really don't sell it for him. lol

[@miltonbates6425]

I have no idea why they brought on this hack. Neil Degrass Tyson has always been a hack. Don't platform him.

[@mrrooster4876]

The shaky hands is because he's weak mentally and physically and he's being flooded with adrenaline in an argument. This happens to everyone. Some can process it, those who can't be in a confrontation do this. They begin to shake. It also prevents them from thinking and speaking in a well thought out manner as they normally would.

[@ShaneLester.]

​@@mrrooster4876 I can agree this happens and understand that. But i've watched him since I was a teenager. Part of why he was so appealing and interesting is because he was seemingly able to handle debate and conversation with pure comfortability and confidence. Which, obviously, makes him seem honest and strict to his values based on science. So, it starts to seem odd when i see him almost buckling to pressure about something. Especially, when the person talking to him wasn't being aggressively confrontational. He was just asking questions that a lot of us would probably like to ask. Also, it wasn't just his hands that make me suspicious of his behavior. His actions as a whole, another example, he was looking at someone off to the side a lot when he was talking, which throws me off. I don't mean to convince anyone not to trust him or think anything. I don't disagree with everything he said. I don't have to trust him, to read into what information he might give me. I don't just automatically assume any of the things I see, hear or even think about the past couple of years are true. We live in a time where it's very hard to know what is true. Maybe it's always been like that, but I can only refer to the time period i'm living in. And throughout my life, it seems to have gotten harder and harder to distinguish reality from propaganda and deception from our media, entertainment and leaders. Or just the confusion we all help create in our own society. I hope to find out i've went insane and Niel Degrasse Tyson is that trustworthy scientist who cares so much about the truth of the universe, he devoted his entire life to it. But his aggression toward the notion of even questioning these things is very suspicious. Especially when a scientist is supposed to question everything.

[@bagongpinoy]

​@@ShaneLester.You're saying, be calm about people who talks about injecting cleaning liquid? 😂

[@adamneville1809]

Admitting your wrong is the hardest thing a person can do and some will never do it.

[@sthubbins4038]

Remember when all the MAGAs laughed at Fauci for saying we could have a million Americans dead of Covid? Still waiting on that apology.

[@adamneville1809]

@@sthubbins4038 Remember when all the flu deaths disappeared during COVID? Who are all the MAGA's?

[@Kunfucious577]

It’s destroying this country. There was a time when Americans knew how to deal with being wrong. Those days are gone.

[@BiscoWho]

You're*

[@JoniAntonioo]

Is this why Trump never admits he is wrong?? lol

[@jdud680]

A rational, critical thinker talking to some who has bought into a scary narrative. I thought PDB was smarter than this, tbh.

[@mattyjay8896]

💯

[@chrispaul7849]

bought into? no paid millions to lie for the tribe.

[@sirairili1570]

@@chrispaul7849 which one of the two is more credible?

[@macca9770]

Statistical lies produce data lies…

[@macca9770]

Death cert falsehoods produce data lies…

[@Bigdoggsurgiesurge]

“Be careful how you speak information” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thanks Neil.

[@hada7552]

It's so nice to see he is so passionate about a whole lot of BS and lies.

[@lipokyanger7685]

A man's gotta earn ya know

[@JebroUnity]

Sources? How is he wrong? The mans literally shuts down the interviewer at every turn.... lol.

[@MrMulisha24]

@@JebroUnity talking over someone with inaccurate data isn't shutting down anything

[@leagueofotters2774]

@@JebroUnity No, he basically talks over and ignores the point that the interviewer is making.

[@drayy8]

“Inaccurate data”….lol wut

[@stevensmith6984]

I’m willing to be part of a social contract where both parties are held responsible for the truth, aren’t benefitting financially, and don’t practice deception.

[@JCAdolphson]

Well said! 🙏

[@jrwalker-howard2837]

Amen!!

[@mgoogleuser8011]

ok cave man

[@stevensmith6984]

@@mgoogleuser8011 ok “m google user” bot

[@thrillhouse4784]

Then you sir have never been to McDonald's

[@simonhoughton1171]

As they say, people who well educated have a good memory but often little capacity for critical thinking. This guy is well educated.

[@westernnut8407]

You can be well educated and still be a tool.

[@raevj]

Nowadays, it is WELL INDOCTRINATED as well.

[@LyndaHill]

@@raevj That's more it.

[@eyewisheyemight]

Well “educated” or well indoctrinated? It’s important to know the difference.

[@melvinpalmer1307]

I wish I could think and reason like Neil.....calm and rational.

[@hamansgapper9755]

Dude is spitting out talking points of 2020

[@regulator7931]

He can't back up anything he's saying. That's why he kept interrupting. Dudes a shill. He turned science into a joke.

[@GenXCombat]

Exactly! That sums up perfect what I was thinking.

[@4dstellatedhypercube558]

I couldn't listen for more than 2 minutes

[@CurbBlurbs]

I’m done with this bozo

[@HereForAStorm]

He knows nothing about mRNA.

[@emtpayislow]

I wouldn't mind if I never saw this guy on another podcast

[@mattsims95]

Neil is one of the top ten smartest people in the world. You believed trump over him. You believe gym jordan over him. Maybe you are the problem not him??

[@VinsHourOne]

Great point. I can’t stand this narcissist

[@texaslady1969]

Amen ! Geeez he is such an as…

[@15Jogador15]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@chalky_white]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@NathanFakeAZZDowner]

Neil is and always has been a schill for the State Dept.

[@georgepoly4842]

Well in this segment he’s just speaking logically lol. He counters everyone of PBD’s logically flawed attempts at comparing the vaccine to smoking cigs etc

[@edukaeshn]

And defense contractors

[@edukaeshn]

@@georgepoly4842 no he doesn't

[@zipbam39]

Yes he does. Nothing against PBT, but it’s just a statistical truth that the vaccine does save lives. Whether you choose to take it or not is an emotional debate which Neil cannot argue.

[@NathanFakeAZZDowner]

Statistics from Big Pharma ? I'll pass. I'll take the stats from all the doctors from Harvard, Stanford, MiT, that were censored on Twitter.

[@hemicuda123ify]

It's funny how he never thinks he's wrong under any circumstances and he raises his voice in order to rule the conversation he thinks he's the smartest guy on the planet and he's not

[@ImxPhreme]

The host literally thinks the same way. Except he’s calm, that’s the only difference. Both are hard on their POV

[@dominickschrute3084]

Sometimes he interrupts without even having his next sentence thought out. at the 7:13 mark you can see him raise his hand, say "watch", and then think of his next sentence

[@balisuncocoyt]

Tyson claims to be a scientist but it's obvious he really really hasn't understood what has really gone down. The vaccine was a colossal failure and Tyson doesn't even know it. It's obvious he hasn't studied the issue at all. He's basing his position on what science should be not what the current reality is. Sorry but he doesn't know what he's talking about it!

[@Beegeezy144]

He's trying to keep his job. If he were honest, Hayden Planetarium would have a new director by morning.

[@claytonjean6385]

Far from it

[@bradykerr141]

I watched this interview. I'm confused...PBD doesn't even seem to be listening. When PBD says "they were wrong," Neil explains why in an honest, clear way. Neil's explanation is exactly what anybody that knows medicine, science, virology, microbiology understands about viruses and vaccines. To me, Neil really lays out the risk-benefit analysis.

[@JulianBashir-8472]

But it’s 100% fact that the vaccine has never “stopped the spread” It can’t even stop you from getting it. Let alone stop it from spreading. Biden has had covid like 6 times

[@Ferndog5000]

This man is too smart to dismiss all the injuries that happened this year. He knows what he’s doing.

[@sandyn1440]

Evil

[@bigal8725]

$cience

[@chalky_white]

He legitimately might not. I don't think that he has ever closed his mouth and listen to anything that anyone else has said. The man thinks that he is god.

[@DownUnderBlues]

Just back “The Science.”

[@darinvee4980]

What "injuries"? Oh wait, you're one of those that barely made it through high school and now think you somehow became smart.

[@johnsinger9156]

"Ignorance lies not in the things you don't know, but in the things you know that ain't so." Will Rodgers

[@fantasia243645]

Can you please explain in layman's terms? I think that I've got it but ain't sure.

[@johnsinger9156]

@@fantasia243645 That's a Will Rogers quote, which is as about as "Layman" as it gets. Tyson is clenching to 2021 narratives and the science has evolved beyond his normalcy bias. Tyson is adhering to a rigid dogma, more characteristic of religious institutions, as if the "science is settled." Science is always evolving as new knowledge comes to light and the new knowledge is that they were wrong about the "Vaccine." True vaccines provide immunity. The C19 mRNA doesn't.

[@kimster9998]

Mark Twain has a similar quote

[@bruce9108]

The only thing that expands faster than the universe is Tyson’ appraisal of his own brilliance.

[@CDJF1]

Neil was bought and payed off a long time ago.

[@lukeskywalker650]

No doubt! Paid mouthpieces

[@dmlabuda]

@@CDJF1 You don't actually know that. why would you assume it is true?

[@dmlabuda]

@Joe dirty71 Typical response when you don't have an answer. So, I'll just assume that you have no idea either.

[@dmm6341]

Lol

[@ClaudioRossi-c8z]

Hey Patrick, since you clearly have no understanding of mRNA vs. serum vaccines, let alone virology or microbiology, I suggest you ponder a quote from Lincoln : "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

[@DrinkWater713]

Neither one is an expert in the field. This interviewer is so full of shit he would never dare to debate an expert in the subject.

[@forkknifesalsa]

You don’t seem to understand microbiology yourself

[@bagongpinoy]

​@@forkknifesalsawhat do you understand though?

[@forkknifesalsa]

@@bagongpinoy Well I recently got appointed to conduct a research in microbiology for our towns energy department. so apparently I do know something.

[@satoshijon3730]

So much for this guy 😆 I don't think he's been right about anything anymore.

[@GangstaGardener]

Awww...because he doesn't fit your political ideology 😂 amazing

[@dbnnebraska9819]

I agree. Tyson gives you the "science" you pay for. He's not a scientist, he's a whore.

[@greg1685]

@@GangstaGardener Gotta love how proudly they shout-out their programming.

[@damianzurc]

@@GangstaGardener no because the dumbass tried to say a vaccine tested for months is safe😂😂😂

[@SS-mp4wl]

Pharmaceutical bootlicker alert!!!!

[@lachygordon506]

Really impressed by the way PBD conducts himself in this debate. Respectful and strong. It wasn’t just 1500 deaths - that was just elite athletes, not the gen population. Then Neil compares 1500 to global covid deaths.

[@Chrishagen]

Data please. The actual recorded number of adverse events is less than 0.01%

[@aceyage]

You were wrong about the vaccines. It's ok to be wrong. I was wrong, too. But you really need to stop with that unscientific bullshit and deal with it. Otherwise you look insane.

[@EGarrett01]

Yes, and for a pro athlete, they then would weigh their risk of dying from Covid (essentially 0) to their risk of heart attack, and should be able to decide whether or not to take the vaccine because of it.

[@Chrishagen]

@@EGarrett01 most pro athletes, particularly older ones, are on performance enhancing drugs. Cortisone shots and anabolic steroids, not to mention GH, are basically the norm, especially for those rehabing after injuries. All those drugs overtax the heart and thicken the blood.

[@littlefish9305]

@@Chrishagen normal non covid death rate of a population is 1%, new data is showing the non covid death rate has increased to 1.4% of the population equivalent to 0.4% of population, in the US that equates to 1.4 million unexplained deaths per year in the last two years (and rising).

[@ILoveCrepes601]

Oh damn Patrick going after Neil! Finally this guy acts like he knows all of science.

[@Arizmi]

He's just embarrassing himself and denying reality too.. he's also looking pretty unwell, must be the jab

[@rolandkennedy80]

A comma in your sentence changes the entire sentence to mean something else

[@noidea5400]

A comma in your sentence means Neil will interrupt you

[@FuttBukkr]

4 minutes in I’m already absolutely sick of this

[@FreeDumbDaily]

He knows all of Fauci? Every inch?

[@debbiem.3128]

Agonizing interview, NDT is clear, succinct, fact based, focused on scientific method.

[@michaelwoods2903]

Not true. Ask the eminent doctors who published the Great Barrington Declaration. Fauci is tied to the military complex producing biological weapons from CIA funded labs worldwide including those in China and Ukraine. They were using gain of function methods to create super viruses and one of them leaked from the Wuhan lab and there was a massive cover up. Fauci needs to go to prison. What does NDT say about that ? He's a shill for the establishment and will suffer consequences as a result.

[@AlphaBetz90]

"As long as you are informed, fully, about what the risks are." But Neil, didn't they try to put a 70-year pause on releasing the data?

[@particleconfig.8935]

yeah Neil isn't that informed. Should have a tough talk with those up there like Bret Weinstein, Chris Martenson, Campbell etc.... etc...

[@joyfullone3968]

Yeah that’s what happened! 75 years!

[@KULTOFKYLE]

You’re in a cult.

[@Geranimo_Adeezi]

Isn't that why people got vaccinated though, in case other people didn't but they had to be around people either way. Wasn't that the point in the people who took the vaccine. I'm ashamed of Mr Tyson for this conversation.

[@AlphaBetz90]

@@KULTOFKYLE enlighten me

[@FlipjevanTiel]

The people of 'personal responsibility' hate being held responsible for anything.

[@guysumpthin2974]

Neil is an example of a fast talking , angry , rude , egotistical, idiot

[@edzebrowski3929]

So, help me understand why an argument that a person could be “forced” to take the vaccine to prevent that person from catching Covid and infecting others. Well if those “others” have a vaccine that was sold as safe and effective, why worry about someone unvaccinated giving them Covid? I know many vaccinated people who have not only caught Covid but caught it multiple times even after the boosters. Kids were required to be vaccinated in order to go to school when there is overwhelming evidence that vaccine adverse events far exceed any value to kids. For a “scientist” this DeGrasse character seems very unscientific.

[@PaulBrown-uj5le]

For example.....

[@PaulBrown-uj5le]

Prove it.

[@FlipjevanTiel]

​@@PaulBrown-uj5leVaccination is a personal responsibility. It was necessary to protect the public and economy from a pandemic. But when the government asked the people who always talk about 'personal responsibility', to act on their personal responsibility, most of them said: "No way, I'm afraid!". And then they thought up many many excuses to not do the responsible thing. Some of them died, some of them caused the death of family members, but all of them exacerbated the damage to the economy and their countrymen. Their personal responsibility was less important than their fear of a little sting and the one in 10,000 to 100,000 chance of a really bad side effect. They want to present themselves as adults, but they behaved like scared little children. That's not an example, that's what I was referring to.

[@edatkins3864]

The most valuable thing we've learned is how human and fallible these "authorities" are in the face of societal pressure.

[@johnwheeler7258]

well said!!! Exactly!

[@parmakSS]

it is the authorities that put the pressure on the society. mostly by mandates and by meddling with the sars corona virus in Wuhan china

[@kentclarkp8461]

Societal pressure or unruly mob of belief based thinkers?

[@jussayinnit]

It's not societal pressure, it's money pressure. The "authorities" at the top are bought and paid for. They know they're lying. The ones below that have to go along with the program or face the consequences coming from their professional associations. Possibly losing licensure or getting sued. Since when do doctors give a F about what the public thinks?

[@wesleyedwards1051]

There was No Societal Pressure. It was a Fake made up Societal opinion. They created an illusion

[@swr748]

Impressed this was made available to rewatch because the host was schooled by his guest. I love how he tried to use the freedom to choose to smoke cigarettes to make his point and then the guest “smoked” him when he pointed out that bars can ban you from smoking in their establishments due to the public health risk to non smokers. The guest turned the light out on this “gas lighter”

[@Pyrrho_]

If he were as good at making a point as he is at deflecting, changing subjects, moving goalposts, and setting up strawmen. What a piece of work this guy is.

[@scottwasson]

You just rattled off a bunch of debate tactics that he didn’t even use. haha

[@BumpyHumpyDumpy]

Legitimately lost all respect for this guy. I remember him being so calm and composed as he made salient points. Here, he’s flailing around to the degree of defending any government action. Ask Lisa Marie Presley about vaccine effectiveness…oh wait

[@minermike61]

He's an astrophysicist or whatever. He's not a physician and people talk to him as if he were. The fields of study aren't even close to the same. I used to admire him but now I see he will go down with the ship, never admitting that he was wrong. Three years into this, I haven't taken a jab and I've had nothing more than the typical yearly cold.

[@heftyfunseeker9987]

Exactly! It’s easy to counter his point towards the end about the vaccine saving lives the same way - is it the vaccine or less virulent strains reducing deaths? I say this as someone who is vaccinated (and 1 booster). I’d love to see him talk like this in front of Vinay Prasad. He’d be checked immediately.

[@whoarethebrainpigs]

which guy??

[@FranklinsMusic]

Podcasts are the greatest thing to ever happen to Hollywood. It exposes all of these clowns who we used to like.

[@preussianblau5595]

Don't be TV race.

[@missyt543]

Omg this sings to my newly discovered inner critic. I used to hold NDT in such high regard, but now? I questioned whether to even click on this video. To be fair, the things I initially appreciated his view on have zilch to do with the nonsense he talks about now... and he sorta seems more self-interested and erratic than before too.

[@FranklinsMusic]

@Tjana T I completely agree. I don't ever remember him being so arrogant in the past. But then again he was always in short video clips by himself or with someone feeding him questions just so he could answer them. Now I'll always remember him as the guy who constantly shouts "let me finish my sentence." While simultaneously never letting anyone else speak a word. 😔

[@switchfoot19802000]

@@FranklinsMusic it's because of the simple fact. That eye witness testimony, is the lowest form of evidence. On this planet, we use measurable evidence. To determine what is and isnt true or real.

[@FranklinsMusic]

@@switchfoot19802000 and what do we do when the measurable evidence is tainted by an inability to admit when we were wrong? Because it seems that half of our scientific community and half of our medical community have a deep inability to do just that.

[@stephenyork7318]

No medical practitioner EVER said you won’t get COVID these people always taint the conversation with their own bias. The host here is clueless

[@andrecross6098]

That's not true. Early on the "experts" stated emphatically taking the shot would keep u from getting coved. They also talked about herd immunity which clearly didn't apply

[@gilfiazon2575]

There’s literally hours of footage of medical experts, presidents, public health experts, etc. saying exactly that

[@bullcrap9409]

Bingo.

[@regaleagle6533]

@@andrecross6098 They said you wouldn't get the alpha and beta strain of covid. Not later strains. Stop lying

[@regaleagle6533]

@@gilfiazon2575 liar

[@DanTheVocalist]

This is disappointing. I thought Neil was aware. It's a shame that some really bright people don't understand the backstory

[@DanTheVocalist]

All Neil understands is what he was told. That is clear

[@karbonxiii]

Naw he’s the fucking worst watch him on rogan

[@crazyfrogracer2pro848]

When and why did you think Niel was aware? Honestly this guys been a tool for ages.

[@randysavage1]

He is aware. He is just very politically biased and let's it effect his views on science

[@maher.k22]

He's very well aware, but he must stick to the narrative that is pushed by his bosses in the government.

[@richardsharp8276]

“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” - Bill Murray

[@jeffreyzwiebel176]

So which one is stupid

[@Librarian_Pirate]

@@jeffreyzwiebel176 the one arguing that the vaccine stops the spread when we know it doesn't.

[@jeffreyzwiebel176]

Then I'm totally wit ya

[@heydudewhatsup]

Lol there is obviously only one stupid person at that table. ** It's the guy w the Celsius can in front of him.

[@fumarate1]

you can't reason with an Idiot.

[@SuperRayW]

One of the first things I was taught in Research Methods and Statistics is that you cannot get long term data from a short term study, therefore 90 days of testing was not adequate to make any claims about long term safety. Further we now know thanks to FOIA requests that they wildly overstated both the effectiveness and the short term safety. Tyson should be embarrassed, but he lacks the self awareness for it.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

Oh they taught you that a short term study doesn’t procure long term result 😂 what else did they teach you, how to count to 5 ? or that a car driving 10 miles an hour isn’t driving 20 miles an hour ctfu.

[@yes-vy6bn]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp we have to spell it out these days. a lot of people really do believe 2+2=5

[@luken476]

Thank you for making a criticism that actually has some substance to it.

[@aCammington]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp NPC mad asf I’ve seen your NPC ass on multiple replies just crying because your favorite actor Neil got absolutely exposed for the shill he is

[@aCammington]

@@yes-vy6bn lmfao I hope your whole family took the vaccine NPC

[@LeonardSmithingell]

Patrick why were people that refused to b vaccinated allowed into hospitals

[@jefferywells6845]

Thank you NDT, for showing us who you genuinely are.

[@joeysplats3209]

A mediocre tosser of bovine excretion.

[@guysmith1856]

Just like what Sam Harris did.....

[@ed00001]

knew that about him long ago, just listen to him speak on anything that isn't space.

[@elsamurai1220]

A scientist who only spoke on facts and data? Nothing Neil said was wrong. Tell me what he said wrong and I'll tell you what his answer was.

[@SekaiShinjitsu]

@@elsamurai1220 he's erratic in this podcast... it sad to see how you lack critical thought process. "Tell me what he said wrong and I'll explain it for you"😂😂 do you even understand what you said, how are you going to explains claims that aren't even from yourself. Have a rest. I worked in hospitals and the reality was greatly exagerated... how the media portrayed the situation is completely different.

[@Blueformdesign]

His hysterical style and effort to speak down on folk is the big tell.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

Go watch the episode of Carl Sagan's Cosmos where Sagan is teaching a class of school kids about the planets and moons in our solar system... then watch Neil do any interview with anyone xD The difference is night and day. Carl Sagan was the Rolls Royce of science communicators and he was a great humanist. How this Neil guy was ever considered his protege, is an ongoing mystery to me lol

[@BigZach77]

"You don't have the right to contaminate someone else." "Says who?" It's not his job to pamper someone giving answers like that. You think he's "hysterical," but were I in Mr. Tyson's shoes, I'd just start throwing hands on the endless horde of Autozone cashiers and Uber Eats drivers trying to lecture me on what an acceptable scientific process would be.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

@@BigZach77 lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process? He's a science communicator.. he's not doing hard science. Point us to any peer reviewed scientific work that the guy has released. Edit: One thing the AutoZone cashier or Uber driver would have going for them is, at least they'd have enough common sense not to pretend they're experts in topics related to biology / immunology / virology and the pharmaceutical industrial complex.

[@BigZach77]

@@scroopynooperz9051 That's literally exactly what every boob on social media thinks and pretends to be, slick: experts on how to handle everything, especially a worldwide pandemic. That they know more about science than "scientists." Case in point: "lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process?". Even if you try to insult him with the "science communicator" title, still 100,000x more than you, myself, and the grand majority of people who like to dogpile on anyone who knows more than them. I don't pretend I'm an expert on subjects I'm not an expert on, let alone against someone that either is, or is a hell of a lot closer to one than I am.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

@@BigZach77 lol lets not choke on that Tyson D TOO hard.. ya might get lockjaw there Tex. And my field is computer science, while Tyson's is physics (or astrophysics). Naturally, my expertise and his diverges - that's how this works. I would know more than him given certain subjects, and he would know more on that which relates to classical theoretical and applied physics.. Neither of us is an expert biologist, virologist or immunologist. Thus given those topics, we should defer to those experts. To speak with confidence about biology, would be to commit intellectual dishonesty. Also, the experts in those fields were still having a hearty debate on the efficacy of those experimental vaccines as opposed to say, letting natural immunity run its course. The experts who were urging vaccine caution though... they were unceremoniously and suspiciously neutered on public platforms. I'll let you in on a secret - no part of the scientific method revolves around "dont ask questions, just trust me bro". When the "science" involves being cagey about sharing pertinent data, and censoring contrarian expert voices, you can be sure you're being sold a bag of d!cks masquerading as science.

[@BebopSV]

Patrick, thank you. Please keep up the good work, getting these schmucks to out themselves while staying calm. You can literally hear Neil’s fluttery anxious breathing through his microphone because HE KNOWS what he is saying is stupid.

[@ixirion]

Asside from health condition of Neil he is the logical there. Ppl are so ignorant and feed so much propaganda that they speak with emotions instead of reasons. The interviewer is looking at social contract as soemthing that depends on the indiviudal. Haha imagine if there was no such contract. I am smart I can take the risck bla-bla. But at the same time 1 mln dumb ppl will require the same for drugs, body positivity etc.

[@antoinesguitar]

Does he really know? I’m not sure what to think about him anymore 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@taraldomland8657]

Niel deGrasse Tyson is really one of my favorite persons! He is spitting facts, and people who say otherwise are just ignorant and don’t understand a system that is well thought through. Is has been made over centuries

[@shanadimitrov4041]

3mins in and it’s Interesting to see how Neil’s argument changes so he doesn’t need to admit that he’s wrong…

[@MikeSnifferpippets]

He’s like a cross between a scientist and politician!

[@MikeSnifferpippets]

@@dagwoodtrizzle2693 exactly!

[@rhondasmith3042]

I had to stop watching him 5mins in. He is full of complete crap‼️

[@jimmyland19]

It's refreshing to see someone take this man on for once! Well said sir

[@jessnunez7556]

Agree! Odd to hear a “scientist” talk about a “social contract”. That’s not science

[@fvr12345]

Public Health. You know, the combination of "science" and "society". Did you miss that?

[@mrindia1]

@@jessnunez7556 Plus we know now that it does NOT prevent spread so you didnt help anyone by taking it. Also, that suggests that testing was inadequate.

[@Ro-wm5my]

Let’s not forgot white clots n miocharditis

[@chromebooktest1128]

same

[@user-sg5cj6we1b]

Would love to see Neil walk into a room with RFK Jr. and talk the covid vaccine. You could literally not pay him enough to do that

[@emmettquattlebaum1479]

JFK Nr is dead because he thought he was smarter than the instructors

[@emmettquattlebaum1479]

Jr.

[@gzsprout]

I'd love to see RFK Jr. walk into a room and debate Neil on Astrophysics.

[@patpeacock8150]

Yea RFK jr is wack out .

[@whatisiswhatable]

Who?

[@w2731]

I don't watch this because the host is saying wilfully ignorant comments and questions. So people who want to have confirmation on their opinion can act like they didn't hear points that are contrary to their thoughts. The host keeps ignoring the fact that YOUR CHOICE CAN NOT AFFECT ANOTHER PERSON. PLAYING DUMB MEANS U THINK YOUR FANS ARE DUMB

[@kevindonnelly3399]

It's extremely easy to fool someone but it's even harder trying to convince them they have been fooled

[@Analogouslizard]

It’s great to see Patrick doing an interview with Neil’s biggest fan

[@kikiursalone]

This comment 😂😂😂

[@exclamationpointman3852]

ALL THESE GOD HATING LEFTISTS ARE ARROGANT!!!!

[@jansmitowiczauthor78]

Cope

[@philobetto5106]

Neil DeGrasse statistics ... reality, improper settings of ventilators killed thousands, corruption, greed, and evil haven't been surveyed

[@centerice]

ahahahahah. Best post I've seen today. Hilarious.

[@Buz-Lunch-Punx]

14:13 Tyson's anxiety is through the roof. He knows he's covering up a crime against humanity.

[@yoeltaveras1861]

I caught tht rite away

[@roysevenonethree4809]

The argument is whether or not you are free to do whatever you want with your body. This really isn't a vaccination issue. The reality of that choice, not to get vaccinated, is you are expecting everyone else to assume your risk and decision. Why do you feel like you can impose your choice on my body "this feels a lot like abortion my body my choice your body my choice".

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

Yeah, man, definitely, totally, 100% not about the vaccine. It's totally about "my body my choice". Cause it's definitely, 100% the same. I'm also afraid of getting pregnant if a woman sneezes on me and then dying from birth complications.

[@TinfoilRealist]

This is why debate is needed. really does expose those living in fantasy land.

[@JEHOVAHJESUSISGOD]

Neil comes from monkeys, Patrick comes from Adam & Eve , that's why Patrick is much smarter & Neil is stupid

[@shaynadavidovhansonrealtor]

AMEN👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@cristopherjeffery6737]

YES

[@lapizza7175]

none of this debate is fantasy. just putting on the tables pros and cons of taking the vaccine over a whole population

[@sushi0085]

So who’s the one living there?

[@MrTrollosan]

Thanks for finally exposing this fraud.

[@chalinofalcone871]

“Fascist mentality is the mentality of the ‘little man’, who is enslaved and craves authority and is at the same time rebellious. It is no coincidence that all fascist dictators stem from the reactionary milieu of the little man. The industrial magnate and the feudal militarist exploit this social fact for their own purposes...” [The Mass Psychology of Fascism, Wilhelm Reich, 1946]

[@Derideo]

Yes!

[@nirbija]

Instead of talking "fraud", your kind needs to go back to school; learn the basis of Modern Science; learn that it is merely a tool; and then learn how it is properly used. Too many of you are scientifically ignorant; but because you are deluded that talk and the big mouth are everything; you never realize just how dumb you are when it comes to the use of the TOOL that is Modern Science.

[@TheDanielLivingston]

Neil? Are you kidding? He was on the ball here

[@cornbread4everyone555]

@@TheDanielLivingston cope

[@reginafetherolf6796]

Thank you, Neil.

[@deadbeef576]

Any respect I ever had for Tyson is gone Good Job Neil

[@mcleananderson4948]

Why he just completely owned him? You don't know the risk of a vaccine 20 years down the road, you also don't know the risk of covid 20 years down the road.

[@deadbeef576]

@@mcleananderson4948 Its one thing to maybe catch COVID and suffer the risks, and being forced to take a vaccine several times annually. And on top of that, you still get COVID. So whats the point? The first variant was survived by 99.98% of under 65. Just doing the maths should tell you that you have a higher risk suffering from multiple doses annualy from a vaccine which uses technology never used for vaccines (and btw, Moderna themselves said before COVID happend, that an mRNA vaccine will never get through phase 3 trials, they said so themselves, so how convenien9t is an emergency use authorization?) Then there is the whole knowledge we had before the pandemic that it is a bad idea to mass vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic. And dont forget about how much they try to suppress information about working early treatments. Because if a medication is availlable that has tons more data through decades of research about side effects, and it happens to bring down hospitalization rates, then there is a clause in the emergency use authorization which says that the authorization is gone. There has been medication that lead to far lower amount of adverse side effects which was taken from the market and the pharma companies fined for their wrong doings. And another point: You dont censor and deplatform doctors, viruologists, scientists etc... who are critical of the government and its institutions. You hear them out publicly and debate and discuss with them their reasoning to find the truth. Instead we are listening solely to the FDA, in which there are working a lot of ex-Pfizer employees. Talk about conflict of interest!

[@dalejames486]

@@mcleananderson4948 I think there is a large cohort that is left out of this discussion. ItJm's a group that I happen to fall into: people who had contracted covid early in the pandemic, pre-vaccine rollout. Having already contracted covid, when asked if I was going to take the vaccine, I told them no, I've already had the disease. "But you don't know how long the immunity lasts!!", is the response I would always hear, which is true. But those who deploy such an argument, buy the other side of the same argument: you don't know how long the jab-immunity lasts. It didn't make sense to take more risk of damaging my health. According to Pfizer's own RCT, 1 in 800 suffered an injury in the first two months (effects not tracked longer than two months). For context, all other vaccines we use are on average about 1 in 1,000,000. There was a swine flu vaccine released in '76, but after testing and seeing that 1 in 100,000 were injured, the product was pulled because it's too harmful to the recipients.

[@bboybreezi2417]

@@mcleananderson4948 worldwide we spent 14 trillion dollars on vaccine...thats more than what every country spent in WW2 combined and we achieved barely anything and made the select few medical megacorps that monopolised on this more rich and powerful than they have ever been. There hasn't been such a distrubition of wealth to a small amount of people since WW1. The vaccines didn't even stop transmission and we are still yet to get a full unbiased investigation on the origins. Quite funny how China and the WHO had a strong relationship at the time and no one even went to Wuhan until over a year after the outbreak. The amount finacial damage the lockdowns did to small businesses and families will take decades to recover from. Most countries are now in debt and the damage to the social intregity of communities with division and skepitism will create even greater problems. All of these are facts you can check the numbers and where the money has gone. Its never going to the people thats for sure even though its all been payed for by taxpayers.

[@mcleananderson4948]

@@dalejames486 I got my 4th shot 3 weeks ago, I am fine, I had covid once after vaccinated, it made me sleepy for 7 days. I am good. Science one and it should be celebrated, should we have shut it all down, maybe not? But millions more would have died.

[@missm5817]

I believe in choice. If you want to take it, take it. If not, don't. I was in an Uber with a Russian immigrant driver who was actually involved in healthcare in Russia and now the United States. He was starting a healthcare related business with his partner and was driving to make extra cash in his downtime. I asked him what he thought of mandates. WITHOUT hesitation he yelled, "No mandate! That's GULAG!" I will never forget that. Blew my hair back.

[@user-hb5fo8rp1h]

Yup. I wish we had choice on our taxes too

[@thlslsmadness88]

We now live in a world where people base their decisions on what an Uber driver said vs a renowned scientist 🥴

[@missm5817]

@@thlslsmadness88 we now live in a world where trolls read only the part of the comment that fits their narrative.

[@Torgo1969]

Based Russian.

[@robsilvester6213]

@@thlslsmadness88 Yeah, what the hell would a Russian expat know about life under long-term authoritarianism?

[@jamescumming4291]

My favorable perception of NDT changed drastically after watching this.

[@edpr2244]

There are no right and wrongs. I had Covid and still having side effects from the virus. Don’t be judgmental.

[@MM-ny9nb]

Same

[@RMokros]

Not mine. I knew he just talked louder than everyone else. He is not perfect, but better than most.

[@MarthaJones-v5p]

I was NOT FORCED to get vaccinated! I was smart & informed!!!

[@scottsherrard]

When hospitals were financially encouraged to diagnose Covid, I certainly have questions about his “ statistics”

[@thyrassword9698]

😆 I'd forgotten about that! So many memories.. 🤔 We should write it all down and call it The Book of Fuckery.

[@davidgadd8601]

BBD is a great interviewer. He remains cool calm and collected, trying to have a discussion while his guest in this case Neil was getting uptight shaking getting loud all because somebody was questioning the science Neil doesn’t want to be canceled

[@mtapp113]

Irony. “One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong.” Neil on his Master Class about science…

[@darleneerschel]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@danieljackson7971]

​@arsonwars you are a failure as a human

[@edjackson4389]

What my dad would call a "Highly Educated Idiot" 😄

[@alphagamma4582]

Can you explain where he is wrong?

[@kingo_friver]

That ad shows up over and over to me. Those words have been stuck in my brain...

[@XzX-7]

It would have been good to have several hospital nurses and doctors from around the country on the panel here. And it certainly isn't that the questions in and of themselves are a problem at all. It's the whining, opposing tone.

[@jcrespo0510]

Almost 3 years ago, I was dealing covid for 2 weeks. The most pain I have ever been through in my life. I still didn't get the vaccine. People that I know that got the vaccine and booster had covid more times than me.

[@blackyoutubeclipz8953]

Glad you here & stronger dawg

[@LibertarianRF]

CBD and melatonin..high doses. Make sure you work your lungs

[@jcrespo0510]

@BlackKZbinClipz I'm not going to lie that shyt was not a joke. Thank God that I was in good shape. They both made very good points, though. At the end the we the people did not like the political truth

[@jcrespo0510]

@@LibertarianRF me and my little nephew who wasn't even a year old yet had it at the same time. But thankfully for him he go over it in 1 week

[@tyronejohnson4746]

i didn’t get the vaccines and never got Covid my sister got two jabs and two boosters and she’s gotten Covid twice WTF

[@Darius10thP]

Pat failed to nail him on the fact that it doesn’t stop transmission negating his entire argument

[@TheSands83]

Thank u I was screaming it at my phone. Bill maher owned his ass on it though

[@dabbking]

And how much exercise and clean eating will help the the outcome but Neil obviously doesn’t care about either of those.

[@Seethi_C]

Why does that nail him? It still slows transmission to some extent

[@djtoland]

@@Seethi_C It was never tested for transmission, Pfizer executive admitted this.

[@johnd8596]

@@Seethi_C and you know that how?

[@marvelousmar2637]

Neal has to be right all the time no matter what 😂😂😂

[@Falconlibrary]

I'M A SCIENTIST! He's an astrophysicist, which means his expertise in medical matters is no greater than anyone else's.

[@rdrd9676]

Neal will tell you USA drove around the moon on a dune buggy

[@websterlee7708]

Tyson reminds me of Uygur

[@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx]

Yet he was wrong on every single thing he spoke on lol, the man is a joke.

[@CaliSteve169]

Scientists 😆

[@harrietharmon403]

The reason why the COVID 19 vaccine did not require a lengthy research period is because the foundational studies on mRNA technology had begun around 1989, and by 2001, human clinical trials on humans for cancer vaccines were underway. So scientists were not starting from scratch and emergency approval was possible sooner, as mRNA technology had already been shown to be safe.

[@eddiesur4846]

I watched an interview a while back with a well accredited Psychologist and he said that when you meet someone and converse on an issue you can usually tell within 5 minutes how staunch their beliefs are and if they are super glued to that belief don't even bother trying to change their thinking because it will be a fruitless effort . Their beliefs are literally so deeply ingrained in their brain that the brain will NOT allow them to see truth or another view , even if you show them tons of evidence to the contrary because the human brain will NOT allow them to realize they were wrong about their staunchly held beliefs.

[@maymalone1505]

I don't buy that the brain won't allow a person to change there mind ,its there ego or false pride that dose the job😢

[@dallassegno]

my dad, a doctor, told me it wasn't a vaccine but only called that. he took two. i took none. he knew it was a dumb idea but when i asked he repeated a memorized script from medical industry about effectiveness of vaccines. it was spooky.

[@mrsincere7]

@Eddie Sur. So true. I wish I would have considered that a yr ago when I got into a warm debate with a friend about the pandemic. I should have avoided that debate. BTW, I have an audio of mine by Michael A. Gilbert entitled "How to Win an Argument" He said something similar. If a person is extremely passionate on an issue, it's sometimes better not to engage them at all. Or stop the debate, regroup and come back later. But if one does choose to engage, one should focus on dealing with the foundation of the other persons argument. In other words their REASONS that supports their claims. Not the conclusions they are making or defending. Conclusions are not necessarily facts or evidence. I also like the work Suzette Hayden Elgin. She has audios I found online that are helpful.

[@mrsincere7]

@@maymalone1505 I agree. It's their egos that causing it not something wrong with their brains.

[@malcolmfreeman7802]

then thats untrue statement because with alot of ingrained untruths it would take more than 5 min to unbrainwash someone from eg capitalism or libertarianism thats taken from childhood adulthood in the decades or from rightwing conspiracy theories (not 5 min to undo it completely but make a crack)

[@kiki-xl9jc]

Just love how he is animated while explaining all talking points that had been thrown at us from Corporate media past 3 years, like Pat was living under a. rock.

[@Truthshouldalwaysbetold]

he is anxious because he knows he is lying.

[@markofcain2324]

Especially since most have already been flushed down the toilet by reality. Example: In Germany, even the ministry of health counted "one in five thousand doses to cause serious adverse events" meaning the kind of chronic illnesses that ruin your life. And they want to give everyone five shots (two for protection, three boosters). That is a 1:1000 chance to ruin your health forever. To protect from a virus that kills people with an average age of 83 and two comorbidities. And this arse is still talking about how dangerous Covid is ..

[@rooibaard365]

Like when that fake intellectual Tyson kept on saying virus instead of vaccine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He was speaking the truth for a few moments. Just like that Bush said Iraq instead of Ukraine. Quite weird

[@rooibaard365]

The whole time ignoring the fact that the vaccines didn't stop you from getting COVID or stop you from spreading it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and what was Tyson's excuse?? 🤣🤣🤣The virus formed variants. Shouldn't they have known it's going to do that??? 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@kiki-xl9jc]

@@rooibaard365 Exactly. And its like let me explain it one more time so you can get it, Pat!!

[@ashleysno]

"In my experience, people who don't know enough are far more dangerous than people who know nothing". Case in point!!!

[@Rosskles]

Yeah, and he has a KZbin channel too.

[@SlickTim9905]

There are dangerous people all around us. People who don't listen. People who jump first without looking. People who follow blindly and then try to convince you. But the most dangerous people let you make the mistake and fail. They then choose a different course of action.

[@nadineblack8102]

@Bill nope 😂

[@eliseoraya-flores6970]

@Bill right on and you would think that it's common sense right

[@OmarTorrez]

Yes, the hosts surface knowledge of topics is indeed dangerous. Tyson attempted to educate him on his mental errors.

[@PK_1024]

Wait, the interviewer agrees taking vaccine is safer than not taking by the end of the video. What's he trying to argue then? Everyone has the choice to smoke cigarettes, but you can't do it on others face harming their health too. And virus is worse because it multiples and spreads to more people too unlike smoke.

[@FreeDumbDaily]

Weird how you can predict every single rebuttal he’d have. It’s almost like it’s a preprogrammed response😂

[@sole__doubt]

💯

[@norcal3696]

That's kinda how data drivin facts work🤔

[@MckensyLong]

100%

[@montazmeahii6029]

Weird how a person can predict the correct response and still not know the correct answer.

[@Daddy-ci6jb]

I have never seen anyone with more conviction and excitement to add absolutely zero value to a conversation. 😂

[@nicholasas7786]

On god, Neil made valid point and the other guys was like no your wrong and I know stats I watch the NBA likeee bro wtf. Also there is a lack of understanding there around the actual trials of MRNA vaccines and how they work. Met with the guy who helped to create the technology and mannnn he should get a Nobel prize.

[@rafetal-sayiegh2857]

Brain washed sheep bro that’s how they are

[@TheZenithphoenix]

It takes a lot of energy to try to communicate a thought to a right winger. And yes, you’re right it always has zero effect because the Sean Hannity brainwashing in their brain is too strong to accept actual facts and logic.

[@marcuslatrent528]

@@nicholasas7786 you sound like a diversity hire, just like Tyson 👍

[@lawrencecigary2134]

@Nicholasas Keep up with the news dude. All the Pharma "vaccine" manufacturers have been found to have held back their studies' information that showed critical negative data that would have kept the jabs from being authorized. Plus, the African continent had a 6% vaccination rate and yet they're no longer dealing with COVID outbreaks. Get informed dude.

[@athomefitness3089]

It’s amazing how your entire opinion of someone can change so much in 25 mins

[@Josh-fz9rh]

Sad I used to love Neil

[@motec5]

1 minute

[@kevingp12]

Hahaha

[@ItsOnlyMe247]

You must be low iq then

[@purepeter4737]

@@Josh-fz9rh don't be sad, the guy is an absolute bellend

[@Clearinsound]

he founded PHP Agency, a multi-level marketing company focused on life insurance and financial services..LOLOLOLOLO

[@horseracingfan3760]

This interview by Neil has turned him in my eyes from hero to zero. And when did I sign this contract?

[@CZsWorld]

When did you sign the contract where you agreed not to shoot someone with a gun, or run someone over with a car?

[@horseracingfan3760]

@@CZsWorld I did not sign one of those either. Look CZ, Covid has been good to me. I lost my job for refusing to take the clot shot and then went on to sign a contract on a full time job worth double the money of previous job. I'm sweet mate. My 97 year old grandma and I are the only ones in the family who have not taken the clot shot and we are the only ones in the family who have not got covid. Everyone else in the family is lining up for booster clot shots and they have each had covid 2 or 3 times. My 97 year old grandma and I have a bit of a giggle at the "fools that live among us" as she likes to call all the clot shoters.

[@aryaalessia4492]

@@CZsWorldso every day by going out you can possible contaminate somebody with your own personal bacterias and viruses. By that logic we should making sterilised bubbles for everybody to be able to interact with other humans. Ludicrous. People that actually worked for decades in Africa with dangerous outbreaks said from the very start that heard immunity is the way to go. Isolation, trashing the economy, push out shitty vaccines would cause more harm. Which is all has. We will pay the price for it for those things for the rest of this decade. Much much much worse consequences.

[@liljes34]

@@CZsWorld those things are signed into law. Where in the law does it say you must take the Covid vaccine?

[@MyITRcom]

@@liljes34 When is having your job threatened, your right to travel taken from you, not coercion?

[@cowpunkability]

You can’t rely on data if no one is allowed to question it, if the companies producing the product have immunity (cant be sued) police themselves, and do not gather info of side effects. Or they simply ignore and deny them. We also were told this would reduce spread and we now know this is not true, this was never a certainty, yet we were told it definitely would, and was a civic duty.

[@The88Cheat]

What exactly are you questioning about the data? And the vaccine did slow the spread of covid. I'm not sure where you got your information from, but a simple google search will show you that.

[@curlyfryactual]

@@The88Cheat the problem with "simple" research is exactly that: it's simple.

[@swervedriver5260]

@@The88Cheat Only a true vaccine stops transmission. According to the CDC, this wasn't a vaccine, this was gene therapy. And they never claimed that it would stop or reduce transmission, but that it would reduce the effects of the weaponized virus. MSM and tech corporations, including Google, falsely claimed the gene therapy reduces transmission.

[@skarbuskreska]

It was never said it would prevent the spread, it was said that the outcomes as in lighter health consequences. It's also how vaccines in general work. They don't prevent that you get it, they help you dea better with it. And because the virus cannot recreate as well as it would, so it spreads less.

[@Gabriel-04-19]

@@The88Cheat He is putting the data into question. Data and evidence isn't "self evident", that is the fallacy of neutrality. Evidence is interpreted according to a worldview. If your a sheep who takes everything from the "Experts" at face value your probably going to believe that the vaccine works. If your someone like us who puts the "Experts" into question because we understand they are not an objective source of information, then your going to be questioning everything they tell you. Data is testimonial evidence, which means we read it under the assumption that the "experts" are being honest, not being paid off, not politically motivated, actually conducted the study, actually used the proper method of research, and that their method of research objectively tells us anything about the world.

[@sputnik460]

Apparently there is a public health contract I have signed. Thanks for clearing that up Neil.

[@catkit86]

Yup. You need to follow the laws of this country. You can't yell 'BOMB' at an airport, you need to report a crime if you see one, following traffic laws, and you need to take your vaccines. Nothing new.

[@wilsons_acres71]

He is sounding like the lying MSM.

[@Phillyniko]

Lmao

[@conradst7912]

That was such a PARTIAL TRUTH. And he way overstated it. We have many public health crises where others are influencing and contaminating others in a way that negatively impacts their health. The way Covid policy was handled was clearly different and much more totalitarian.

[@sputnik460]

@Mike Comparing a restaurant workers washing their hands to FORCED vaccination is comparing apples with oranges sunshine. False equivalence.

[@john-ug7nc]

@10:31 Dr. Tyson says, "You don't have the right to contaminate someone else". Actually we do. According to The 14th Amendment of the constitution the federal government cannot make mandatory vaccine laws. This is also reinforced in part by our “Pledge of Allegiance”. Furthermore, according to the US Constitution, the primary responsibility for one's own health lies with the individual. Therefore, it is up to the individual to determine what level they want to go to protect themselves from covid and should never rely on another individual in any way shape or form. You, and you alone are responsible for your own safety no matter what that is or where you go. Not me, not anyone else. If you don't wanna get COVID, then double mask it, wear a moon suit, or put on a full scuba diving outfit, whatever it takes. That is your responsibility not mine. End of argument!

[@brocka96]

When these people try to defend these indefensible positions, you can see the programming exposing itself in real time. This is a guy that I used to love. And like many other great minds like Sam Harris for example, they’re credibly is shot because they are obviously comprised

[@lexuspod]

Everyone except PBD, YE, ADAM GREEN is an agent and controlled op for the 👃🏼

[@lilmanb8004]

Seeing Neil Fail and show flaw like this is great. Not scripted conversations are great. Podcasts are a revolution for current humanity and what’s to come.

[@marionajera6397]

You can call it a revolution but the dummies that need to see this will never see it

[@maxweinbach3996]

How did he fail?

[@lilmanb8004]

@@maxweinbach3996 Failed to maintain a professional approach at times. He got some good points across, just the professionalism side wasn’t top tier on this podcast as he usually portrays in documentaries etc.

[@michaeldwyer6164]

Patrick outright lied about the athletes dying pre vs post covid. Why do you think Neil is failing here?

[@michaeldwyer6164]

@@lilmanb8004 Professionalism means nothing when it comes to truth. Patrick lied outright about the athlete numbers and either he's too dumb to look it up or he's too dumb to understand comparing 2 different population isn't how scientific studies get conducted.

[@eane7238]

I believe the fact that most of the people dying of COVID are elderly and had multiple co-morbidities should've been brought up, for a period of time the average person dying of covid's age exceeded the average life expectancy. Me and my brother who are both teenagers got COVID more than once and it was about as severe as a mild cold, I'll take a mild cold over a very small chance of dying of sudden heart failure.

[@milomacdonald4980]

Probably not a great idea to send covid patents into retirement homes ..the only reason would be to cause deaths , stoke fear ..Cuomo should be in prison.

[@ddrewable]

Statistically speaking of course!

[@winfieldsawyer4747]

It was virtually all old and or Fat. Now it’s athletes 🤫

[@ADRSPORTSTV]

Exactly so many people are having cardiac failures now and athletes

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

That’s true of literally every disease ever. It disproportionately affects older people. But the question is, why are their lives less valuable than yours ? Why should you have the right to go around spreading a highly contagious disease in the middle of a global pandemic to highly vulnerable people ?

[@jaretkoop7895]

This is the difference between someone who understands how to intake information and evaluate it versus someone who already has his views mostly made up and will dismiss any information that doesn’t agree with his predetermined beliefs

[@123Redinger]

His whole speech on risk to reward doesn’t even make sense. You can use his same logic to tear apart the need to get the vax. The small percentage of dying from a flu vs filling your system of foreign chemicals potentially compromising someone’s health system.

[@daggius]

😂

[@toddhouck9041]

.... Some people are simply incapable of understanding that someone's right to an individual decision is negated by taking away another's right to be protected from said decision. Why even live in a society if all that is important is an individual's rights? This whole discussion is completely irrelevant if you simply take the well being of your fellow human into consideration before your own. It really is terribly sad and unfortunate 😢

[@GoodfellasX21]

​@toddhouck9041 but this is all based on silly misinformation. I was an essential worker and had to work even though it was too dangerous. I didn't get vaccinated. A lot of my coworkers did. I saw the vaccinated co workers all get sick and get covid and various points after. I havent had a flu in years despite being surrounded by hundreds of people over the course of a week. Again while everyone was at home I was surrounded by hundreds of people everyday. Never got sick once but all the vaccinated people did. So you don't exactly understand how things work is the problem. I saw things with my own eyes that contradicted what we're being told. Also none of us got close to dying despite being surround by thousands of people over the course of the year. The news made it seem way worse than it was.

[@jjam5575]

​@123Redinger lol that whole talk Neil gave was exactly for people like you. You are into nonsense and need to fugure out how to work yourself out of the fear and ego.

[@patrickstallings9613]

the IFR wasn't fatal and the avg age of those dying was like 82. that's higher than the avg life expectancy. there was a virus going around yes. it killed ppl also yes. but the response as well as the tsunami push for the vax was nowhere close be being proportional to the severity of the virus.

[@mathewthehealthcoach]

It's amazing how Neil doesn't see he's having the same overly simplistic decision making processes that he's trying to say other people have!

[@dna8269]

Exactly this. The people praising him and saying everyone else is stupid and doesn’t know science is ignoring this aspect

[@dahbeh9975]

confession through projection a salesman!

[@DosiriTV]

Too much nuance disrupts the gov't's ability to make clear decisions during a pandemic.

[@mathewthehealthcoach]

@@DosiriTV exactly why it should be left to the individual who can make decisions based on their life (limited variables) rather than a few people who pay no price for being wrong making decisions for hundreds of millions of people based on data given to them by career criminals (big pharma)

[@BattleBladeWarrior]

No that's not true at all. He's saying, its an easy choice. Look at the numbers. a few thousand are at risk, a few million can be saved. 1 versus 1 million. The decision is easy. And it is just that simple. The people arguing against the vaccine are ignoring the numbers. They're backing the small number with the side effects, as a reason to avoid it and ignoring the vast number of people with no issues. There is not one thing in this world that comes without risk. cars (car accidents) alcohol (alcohol poisoning), etc. You weigh the risk vs the advantage it provides. And all the numbers and records and history show that vaccines save more people by far, then those who don't use them.

[@Kandjungu]

I always enjoy Valuetainment interviews. What I've observed from this specific interview is people that are book smart are oblivious to the fact that their knowledge was derived from other human beings which may have been inaccurate. The fact that Mr Neil rebutted all of the other perspectives without any thought proves that the education system is making geniuses think like computers ( He turned a discussion into a lecture which is ridiculous)

[@arod1766]

The education system creates indoctrinated people that can repeat what they were taught. Never geniuses, those are always expelled from the system for questioning. Most people with IQ higher than 140 don’t even go to college

[@shelfcloud487]

Sorry Neil, there were NO LONG TERM STUDIES!!! Period! He just can’t accept that! Baffling.

[@o.m.8936]

There is a system for proving data to be facts, that's science, if you don't believe in it don't give your children any vaccine and see what smallpox, polio, etc look like, they'll look great, believe me

[@Rowgue51]

NDT is not book smart and is not a genius. He's an actor employed for the specific purpose of pushing a particular agenda. He's very good at sounding like he knows what he's talking about. He knows how to shape sentences with artistic flair and use all the right buzz words. But if you actually pay attention to the details of his arguments, there are a lot of times where he is clearly just spouting nonsense word salad that doesn't mean anything.

[@hazylarry9390]

@@Rowgue51 most faux "big brains" are just regurgitators of other things said/written by actual intelligent humans, and most are just fast-talking word salad types that hope their steamrolling of a conversations gives them the feeling of winning an argument. When you break down what they say, it usually holds little to no water. Yet in their head, talking over your opposition means you won the debate.

[@robertrichards2934]

Of the people who died in the hospital how many were on a vent?

[@deborahcady4100]

A legend in his own mind

[@mostbased]

Compared to you. Absolutely 😂

[@SuperMYSHKIN]

Celebrity establishment drone.

[@LookMeInTheStraps]

"Watch this watch this".... as if he's about to drop some profound truth on him....

[@donaldclifford5763]

NDT, purveyor of junk science.

[@kxDRUMMACHINExk]

They're talking about healthy athletes suddenly dropping dead and Neil tries to blame it on alcohol... these are athletes in their prime, not mid life crisis drunks.

[@iSiberianHusky]

@@jamespainter1302 But it was bogus "data." Fabricated.

[@patmyaz3304]

do you have sacientific papers proving that its beacuse of the vaccines? yes or no

[@Ge0rge_0rwell]

​@@patmyaz3304 the nazis would have loved you, with your lack of critical thinking skills and how easily manipulated you are.

[@rbruggeman7722]

@@patmyaz3304 the manufacturers of the fake vaccine list heart issues as one of the many side effects.

[@patmyaz3304]

@@Ge0rge_0rwell lack of critical thinking? im actually the one here using critical thinking. there is no evidence that this happens because of the vaccines, it may. we dont know. why dont you try to think critically?