Valve's Deckard VR HMD has NEW Leaks!

[@sinom]

"floats are basically integers" ... That's a sentence that will annoy 80%+ of programmers (the ones that don't exclusively use python) and 100% of computer scientists or compsci students.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Oops 😅

[@clerooth]

I wasn't annoyed. He's not here to teach comp sci students about floats. His point was still communicated coherently.

[@bufmouse13]

Nice python jab.. We use floats too.

[@sinom]

@@bufmouse13 I'm sorry. I know there's ints floats and complex numbers in python. I just said that because python is dynamically typed, so people often don't care about which exact type a number is right now. Similar situation with JavaScript or other dynamically typed languages.

[@ZedDevStuff]

Float: 1.01 , 0.53 , -16.20 , 25.29 Integer : 1 , 308 , 9, -15 Edit: I'm using C#

[@codex4046]

"Floats are basically integers" As a dev I had to laugh about this :D it's good enough for this explanation though.

[@Traf063]

Became actively *triggered* at that

[@dtrjones]

LOL, I think Bradley knew that. He was just trying to convey the fact that they are numerical. 😂

[@kikoano111]

@@Traf063 same

[@thebush6077]

args

[@copperthedergy]

yeah this ruined me lol

[@silverwolf2332]

The intro of "hi, I'm bald" really caught me off-guard and made me laugh. Can't wait for the deckard or whatever it's going to be called though. thanks for doing all this research for the people who don't have the time

[@rtyzxc]

Plot twist: He cut his hair because he was secretly part of Valve's BCI testing

[@zJericho101z]

I fully expected to get a manscaped promotion after that but puzzlelingly got left hanging....

[@TheMightyPikachuFUCK]

protoge n

[@Richard-Freeman]

Brad, figuring out the whole work/life balance thing takes time. My personal advice is to not be a jerk to yourself. Would you ever place unreasonable expectations upon a friend or someone you love? No? Then don't berate yourself. Figuring this stuff out is difficult. Allow yourself to be a flawed human. I'm grateful for the work that you do and the amount of time you dedicate to it.

[@jumbobinteractive2172]

This. Can't stress enough how important this is. You beat yourself up because you care. It shows you're human. People appreciate that you're human. You do amazing work and if anyone says otherwise then I would like to see them have a crack at it and realise just how much work you put in. Look after yourself. We'll try look after you too. :)

[@weedsterdaweed2725]

Thats...actually a great tip.Thanks,i needed this too.

[@Richard-Freeman]

@@weedsterdaweed2725 ❤

[@AlanMeigs]

Preach!

[@b.s.7693]

I'am so grateful to Valve for sticking with PC VR. The low quality Quest 2 standalone shidd might be useful for getting people into VR, but its also its handbrake.

[@stormvr1070]

Quest 2 is good for entry but many of us want more! As an example, Facebook continues to ignore full body tracking despite showing it 2 years ago. They don't care about advanced features that Valve will give us.

[@b.s.7693]

Yes, such things I am talking about. I dont bought my high end PC for low poly casual stuff...

[@crodojoe]

quest can do pcvr but its meant to be standalone while the index 2 is basically the complete opposite which makes sense since they have a huge pc vr market as is. the quest 2 is like the wii u and the index 2 is the switch if you think about it

[@kazioo2]

@@crodojoe Games on Quest sell 10x more copies than on SteamVR, so it's the other way around - devs are fleeing to Quest. It's the reason Valve is probably in panic mode with Deckard, just like Oculus was in panic mode with early and badly working positional tracking and Touch controllers when Vives were selling much better.

[@luider8795]

i just want a bigger field of view, I would buy the quest 2 right now if its field of view wasnt so shit

[@polytrauma101]

A rotation of the panels might also help with anti-aliasing, since structures depicted are often horizontal or vertical and are more prone to produce moiré/aliasing with the panels pixel matrix. You can easily try this by tilting your head in current hmds.

[@rtyzxc]

Also, if you rotate the panels some other amount than 45° increments, then the pixel matrixes for both eyes won't line up perfectly, perhaps leading to also better anti-aliasing and detail.

[@xandwch]

@@rtyzxc Holy crap you're right! Great points by the both of you!

[@mikeb3172]

Anti-aliasing might not even be relevant with the RGB striped pixels... Old TV's were ~640x480 and were blurry close up not pixelated

[@polytrauma101]

@@mikeb3172 I don't think CRTs are a good comparison to VR display panels. They mostly had a different arrangement of masks and function quite differently. You also don't really want to hide aliasing or SDE with a blurry image.

[@monkeyperson9392]

good point! I'd love to see that in reality.

[@El-Burrito]

I used to think of myself as a VR enthusiast but you are on another level good sir. Thank you for the awesome updates!

[@HellSpawnRulerOfHell]

I don't like the idea of using someone else's cloud to stream games. But I really like the way Valve in currently handling game streaming where my PC is my own "Cloud". It would be cool to have a super sleek standalone VR HMD that can stream VR Content to it. Both on a local network and through to an external network.

[@greenbox342]

Real OGs know Valve was first to develop 6 DOF with their QR code room. Visible as an Easter egg in The Lab.

[@b0xxed]

Thats a real professional haircut ya got there

[@SadlyItsBradley]

My wife butchered.. errr ummm did it

[@jemdejager]

@@SadlyItsBradley qties - no netflix

[@ClellBiggs]

@@SadlyItsBradley It's not that bad, honestly. I've had worse from professional barbers.

[@guy1ncognit0]

@@SadlyItsBradley A sweet mustache would go great with that new dew!

[@TheDragonfriday]

I'm focused on his shirt

[@bystander85]

Wow, amazing research on your part. Headset is sounding great. Really happy to hear OLED is making a comeback for those oh-so-missed, perfect blacks and with extra brightness! As a sim racer tho, I'm really hoping for a significant bump in FOV.

[@grifnizzle7197]

God I hope it's 2022 and no later. Varjo and Pimax are screaming for my wallet, but just can't see myself spending 1.5-2k on headset with compromises, I want the whole enchilada!

[@slickzMdzn]

whats a (big) compromise on the 8KX for example?

[@grifnizzle7197]

@@slickzMdzn distortions at high fov setting, no eye tracking (without separate module, which seems to not be too great as it is), fixed/limited FR, hard to run at native rez

[@grifnizzle7197]

@@slickzMdzn clarification: which is not to say it's a bad headset or the feature set sucks, but for the price (1300) not the compromises I'd be willing to pay that price for

[@luider8795]

@@grifnizzle7197 yeah, the pimax is the absolute top end of the vr headets, and then the index and then quest. Pimax is really the best option because of their field of view I am saving over $1k for the next gen headset that come out with a bigger field of view

[@MrAnritco]

I honestly can't wait for this one; I have recently gotten quite excited about VR and I want this one to be my very first headset. No matter the price :3

[@jasonvidal4655]

can't wait for this headset but think it will be quite a while before it gets released, I hope I am wrong.

[@davidy22]

The current valve index is triple the price of all the competition, prepare your wallet for some pain

[@MyCoolStrawSir]

I love that you can see how much has passed between cuts. Very cool

[@sethbessinger2025]

Great video! Hope the Deckard gets announced soon! I’m still waiting to get into VR until I get one, as I don’t have a PC.

[@AkaBigWurm77]

With the delay of the Steam Deck and no Oculus hardware this year, it clear the "chip shortage" and delays from C-19 have made a big impact on when things are getting released. It feels like there was intent to get these things to market but the world had other plans.

[@Varian-Killbot]

Shaking and crying rn. Brad would never cut his hair!

[@peanutpomsky520]

Teehee

[@shotgunenvy2657]

He didn't, his wife did 😂

[@dtrjones]

just eMagin!

[@im-pk]

IM SO SADDD

[@cedricvillani8502]

the QR Code is used as a spacial anchor to tell a XR AR MR headset where something shpuld be , easy way to drop presise overlays, like covering something with a green scree but easier

[@bassemb]

Thanks for the recap

[@GunGryphon]

Thanks for the effort Bradley, I appreciate your research.

[@altaresification]

I had lost all hope for varifocals since last month's Carmack talk. Very glad to see Valve keeping the feature!

[@darkl3ad3r]

Oh no what did John say? Varifocal is super important for me.

[@cate01a]

Oh my god, this is just so exciting! Really encourages me to pick up a job yet again, merely so I could upgrade to the new beast

[@RaccoonteurVR]

I have a hunch, based on Valve's very early VR headset prototypes, that the QR codes are meant to be used for tracking. But not tracking the device, which was their original purpose... Instead they would be used for tracking objects in your playspace. What sort of objects? Well, you could slap one on a soda bottle, and then the device could then recognize that as a virtual object you want to be tracked, without any additional hardware.

[@tasosm7x]

what a goofy hair!!! i love it. its like you took the headcrab off your head from the BCI video and this little fellow rip some of your skull off

[@thechief2020]

I say in my head “hey im brad” at the beginning and that def threw me way off for a second lol

[@Dradoc4]

My man out here looking like young Elijah Wood. Looking good dude.

[@ClellBiggs]

I was thinking Eric Forman.

[@jamejamevr]

The end of next year is going to be huge for VR, we'll have a magnificent battle between the Valve Deckard and the Pimax Frontier.

[@cannedolives]

and the meta cambria and possibly even a cheaper and better varjo aero :D

[@jamejamevr]

@@cannedolives Well. The Cambria looks like another business headset. I'm not feeling all that excited about it. The Aero in my opinion struck out on its high price, no audio, and total fail FOV. It's another business headset, only they are pretending its for consumers. Valve and Pimax are the interesting players. Should a real Quest 3 appear, that would be interesting, though.

[@valentink487]

Only that Pimax never delivered on time fulfilling all their own promises and Valve haven't announced any release date (if any) yet.

[@jamejamevr]

@@valentink487 Well, hopefully things work out. Pimax is apparently demoing a unit in January so... We'll see. Valve is always just random though, yeah.

[@luider8795]

cant wait, I am saving over $1k for next year when the new vr headsets come out.

[@CaryMGVR]

*Doing the Lord's work YET AGAIN ....* 🙂👍🏻

[@mikesnapper9001]

Good job bradley. Although i fail to understand how you manage to not go insane from going through all this decompiled code and patent documents and leaked technical documents etc, making sense of them.

[@crodojoe]

damn i came across this channel when you had like 10k subs and now you are about to hit 100k subs i love your content and i am glad that some of your content is actually getting out there finally.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Thank you for putting up with me for so long hahaha

[@Hustler0282]

I just hope that it is can compete with, or beat, the alleged pimax headset that is being marketed right now. That seems like a headset with most things I've dreamed about since I bought my OG Vive.

[@ViperVenoM13]

Pimax next Gen hmd is a unicorn it will never be delivered

[@luider8795]

the 8k pimax is the best consumer vr headset, and it will be for a long time. Next index and quest wont come closs to it

[@ViperVenoM13]

@@luider8795 no it's not

[@Hustler0282]

Screen door effect is still in effect in the pimax 8k. My next headset will not have it. Everyone is different when it comes to making them more comfortable in VR. That is what I need. Screen door is very prominent to me, and I really don't know why.

[@poiuytrewq4645]

5:15 floats are basically integers *programmer pain noises*

[@matisowagm]

Wondering if he didnt know or if just misspoke

[@poiuytrewq4645]

@@matisowagm he almost certainly knows but was trying to dumb it down for the general audience to understand

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Misspoke 🥲 . Happens a lot haha

[@realtimestatic]

I really can’t wait until this thing comes out for real! Hopefully end this year of finally beginning next year!

[@martinvr1394]

Awesome coverage, thanks for the update brad :)

[@Not_Pulsus]

So you're saying Valve has been working for years on a headset with the same next-gen tech that these recent hype headsets have been? Beautiful. Hoping it can be really cheap thanks to all of this work.

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

thanks for the timestamps

[@pastrie42]

Thank you for your videos. It always makes my day to watch your content.

[@shirazoul]

I like the recording in the background, it's charming :)

[@MisterSpeaks]

getting really close to 100k bradley!

[@dtrjones]

Excited for Project Cambria and Deckard, let the games begin! I really like the idea of having a headset that can map the environment in full colour and you can walk around your house in VR so to be honest if Project Cambria can perform as well as a PC VR headset with the form factor, and ecosystem, then that will probably be my first choice but the Deckard looks nice as well. I just feel this will be a more clunky traditional headset instead of a slim tennis hat style design of Project Cambria.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I think it will be a bit chunkier too than Cambria. With a focus on functionality over form. But maybe still not as chunky as Index

[@guy1ncognit0]

Hi Brad! thanks for the info. Just got an email that my Steam Deck is delayed 2 months. Do you think this will delay the announcement of the deckard?

[@SadlyItsBradley]

No idea haha. Release date is already hard to guess for Deckard without thinking about deck

[@guy1ncognit0]

@@SadlyItsBradley Yep its a busy time for Valve Hardware! I'm thinking they may want to get the Deck at least launched before announcing something new. Was hoping for late December announcement but now I'm thinking after Q2 2022. Hope I'm wrong!

[@lrstudio3221]

Really great video, Brad. Awesome research. And you are definitely not an idiot!

[@rosto1979]

Hey Brad! Nice haircut!! And .. thnx for all the deepdive and info!

[@wmhilton-old]

I can't wait for this headset lol! It's gonna be so hyped I hope it lives up to it!

[@Hustler0282]

And if you read this. Bradley. Bruce Lee was, at least in my experience, correct in saying that words have power. Even aimed at yourself in jest. You are not an idiot. Thank you for all the work you put in. Take care of yourself.

[@descmba]

Not sure if this has been mentioned already... but in AR, QR codes are used to create anchor points so that 3D models "know" where they are supposed to be located. Perhaps Valve will use pass through to offer developers the option to do more AR like applications and having the ability to process QR codes will facilitate this.

[@disky01]

Thanks so much for your hard work!

[@RyanR3STL3SS]

I appreciate how you alternate saying Qualcom and Quailcom 😊

[@ADHD_Sam]

Imma need them sour skittles my guy...

[@SadlyItsBradley]

They mine

[@ADHD_Sam]

@@SadlyItsBradley lol sadness :P

[@TotalGAMIX]

10000 nits is crazy. but I think brightness is way more important than a lot of us think

[@AlanMeigs]

Great work, your presentation is improving!

[@syneydesign]

YURUCAMPSHIRTYURUCAMPSHIRT OMG OMG OMG I LOVE ITT

[@BHBalast]

I have never seen you look so rested, I don't eat everything tho.

[@johnambers]

Awesome job as always. Can not wait for this thing. Pair it with a new Nvidia 4090 at the end of the year maybe?

[@EeekiE]

PlayStation VR2. Valve Deckard. Potential Apple VR. Potential Quest Pro. It’s happening! PS VR2 is a no-brainer if you have a PS5, and might lead the way on games. I have to have one. A standalone Valve Deckard would likely be the end of my Oculus journey, as the games for Quest 2 are lacking and Meta seems focussed on social and productivity more than gaming going forward. No idea what area of XR Apple are targeting, but I’m interested to learn more about it.

[@MatthiasMetzler09121981]

With every stream of you I'm hyped more!!! ;-)

[@MonkeySpaceWalk]

First: I love your videos, thank you for what you do. Second: The haircut looks great!

[@RobertA-hq3vz]

Thank God Bradley got a hair cut. Every time he brushed his hair out of his eyes I'd take a shot of whisky. I just got out of the hospital.

[@TTBOn00bKiLleR]

Great work. I think your channel is the only one covering VR related tech details. Floats are def not integers though

[@andrewmorris483]

I kinda want a Valve pcie (whatever number we're on) card that boosts VR. Maybe allow for more distributed computing. Probably add a tweaked wifi config to optimize for a VR headset. They could also release it as a thunderbolt device for laptops or fully filled computers. The card could have ports for charging VR headsets fast like a dock. Think, a $50 or $100 addon that takes a gaming or workstation device into something special for VR

[@tiagotiagot]

LED flashing sequence for 6dof tracking is what the old P5 Gloves used; I'm not sure if it's patentable with that prior art, unless there's something significantly different in the way Valve is planning to use LED flashing sequence...

[@Leocracy]

I've watched this 4 times now, let's just say I'll be pre-ordering.

[@mattcy6591]

Could steam VR QR code maybe for improved stand alone tracking? I can envision it having standalone, and enhanced standalone with the use of badges on the walls, and then for best tracking use of light houses. Giving consumers the most options without requiring special light houses

[@JohnDoe-rs4fl]

Hair looks good.

[@essenmaelen6798]

I am so grateful for your work to dig up all this Deckard info. Thank you so much for your videos. Also, don't want to be rude but DAMN this haircut is so much better and less distracting. But you do you

[@janchan2258]

Damn 4k quality! You're evolving

[@stian55]

nice cut man

[@MakesWhat]

Skittles sure are good.

[@AkoaGenesis]

Thx for the new info.

[@reviem6418]

5:16 "Float are basically two different integers"

[@ecevansevans2566]

Great show, pls keep me informed about val. I am waiting, because a lot of new headset are coming out next year. Like Varjo aero.

[@swiftweeb4487]

His haircut is more jarring than all these updates, miss his emo cut

[@SadlyItsBradley]

It will return

[@darkl3ad3r]

@@SadlyItsBradley please do!!! As a genuinely bald man, I was reliving my long beautiful hair days vicariously through your awesome long hair!!

[@xecoq]

I'll never not trust a man with a yuru camp shirt

[@Dogwater420]

hey, do you think its still worth it to buy a valve index with all this exciting new stuff potentially coming? cheers

[@Skeeva007]

Awesome video, Bradley! 🔥🔥

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Thanks Skeeva ❤️

[@CruzPro]

Excellent choice of Skittles my guy, this is why I'm subscribed.

[@tommaston6715]

1:38 I don't know what "cpuss" is, but I like the sound of it.

[@aapje]

Rotating the displays makes a lot of sense!

[@KingAzaz]

I'm very much looking forward to this. I've been needing to upgrade for a while so I'm hoping this delivers. If it doesn't come to fruition fully realized, it will be a shame, but I'm sure it will be innovative to say the least.

[@Shadorin1337]

This man knows his facts. You can tell because he has Sour Skittles in the shot. See those are the best Skittles, so he is clearly well informed.

[@MegaManNeo]

I'm not replying a lot but the work you do for the community is amazing. Keep it doing, Bradley!

[@socks2441]

this sounds like the actual perfect headset. it sounds too good to be true, so its probably still years away. but damn am i ever going to buy one. 100%. only issue is if its that good so is everyone else out there with a vr headset, and even those without vr this will definitely be enough to entice them. and with the chip/electronic parts shortages etc set to last damn near indefinitely. actually buying one and waiting for it to arrive could take another year or so. its going to be a nightmare, a nightmare with a happy ending though.

[@MAabmets]

I could be wrong, but I have a vague memory of someone using QR codes as markers in a room so that the AR/VR headset can use those instead of a lighthouse, or some other active device, to find it's location in the room.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Ya valve used this to track their early 2013 prototypes

[@dangoran]

I think valve are more pragmatic and we won't for example get varifocal lences for that reason. It's too early and experimental and valve will go for quality but also simplicity. I at least hope they are (we will be) spending money on awsome lenses and screens , wireless, inside out tracking and just other innovative clever things to make it all work better. That alone is maybe 1000-1500 dollars. I also think the "comfort headstrap" could be just a wired headset. It would be a smart move to target a wider audience (lower bugets) when they already have the basic upgraded parts and also experience with their current product. I agree that they're focusing on pc and not standalone. I have trouble seeing that they would go through the process to bring content to a new ecosystem. That was a problem I had with the standalone speculation. And I don't think they would prioritize a steam deck like product until there's more content and more vr users. That would be weird because the total package would be too expensive for the experiences you can get now.

[@zydawn]

In short, your telling me to wait before I upgrade my google cardboard.

[@draken5379]

'Edge Computing' is still pretty much considered the 'cloud'. Its just at the 'edge' of the cloud.

[@KiegKillsReality]

I’m deff hyped

[@legendp2011]

I think with oculus/meta moving towards self tracked controllers (and by the looks of it decgear may also be using controllers that self track. additionally supposedly the lynx r1 will have self tracked controllers), would be odd for valve to release controllers that require headset cameras........although I suppose if you can pair with lighthouses to avoid occlusion issues they still work.

[@markimark82]

#GladlyItsBradley

[@Micp2912]

I watch your channel because you look like Nelson from Silicon Valley. And I love VR.

[@StoneGear]

Exciting news. 😀

[@Smegheid]

Paying attention to OLED aging is definitely important if this thing is going to demand Index-level prices. While they definitely weren’t the poster child for OLED when they were new (blacks? Who needs blacks?) the screens of my Rift CV1 have definitely degraded over the years, and are the main reason I’m jumping to a Quest 2 as a cheap-ish stopgap. The lower half of both eyes has a significant red tint in dark scenes that’s gotten far worse over the last year or so (probably as the headset has seen way more use during the pandemic). This is probably to be expected as early OLEDs’ traditional weakness was the lifetime of the blue pixels. The weird part is that it’s not bounded horizontally - the region of crimson annoyance(TM) is more circular, wit the highest point a little below the center of each eye, and rolling off from there to the left and right. It’s seriously distracting in very dark areas, so 50% of HL:Alyx and literally all of Elite. I can’t really complain - between myself and the kids, it’s easily seen hundreds of hours of use since the first lockdown in 2020,. Picking the Rift after the price drop all those years ago instead of a Vive easily pays for a quest to act as a replacement while something more interesting comes along,. I would have been far more irked if this had been a $1k device, but It did a great job preserving our sanity during lockdown, and there’s no real shame in simply wearing out from constant use.

[@socks2441]

also, at 10,000 nits, those displays will get HOT. and im pretty sure that could reduce lifetime a lot as well. i really really like the sound of this headset, but i am worried about oleds longevity.

[@MrJay-tv2vt]

First I'm hearing of this but this headset sounds insane. I want one.

[@GlitchyFPV]

U L T R A W I D E G A N G

[@karlsjostedt8415]

The current lenses in VR headsets are not cutting out 90% of the light from the screens. You loose a few% of light with every lens.... photographic lenses can have a dozen pieces of glass and you only loose a few % of light passing through all the lenses.

[@iphicrates123]

exciting times! thanks for the update bald!

[@TehJellyLord]

Yeah Im like 99% certain this will be my next headset

[@GamerReality]

How are you liking the super ultra wide monitor? Do you think it is a worthy upgrade from an ultra wide monitor if I have the money?

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I had 2 16:9 monitors before; and I’ll never go back. This with windows powertoys software is beautiful

[@Dammlee]

what would your guess on a release date be? also great vid as always

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Hard to guess. Keeping an eye on the display manufacturing partner to say they have the lines for it. Since that is probably the last hurdle

[@onepcgamer6810]

Knuckles Pro, I called it.