Vampire Chronicles: Why It's Forbidden To Make Vampires So Young

Vampire Chronicles: Why It's Forbidden To Make Vampires So YoungHey everyone welcome back to another video. Today I want to talk about the Vampire Chronicles and the rule, well, unwritten rule that states that a vampire cannot be created if they are below a certain age and level of maturity. There are many consequences from the result of making children immortal, all of which i'll explain in todays video.
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[@Jenifer_R_]

The young age at which Jane was turned could also explain her cruelty. 13 year old girls can be vicious.

[@badassbillyb]

"Hahaha look at that high wasited man he got feminine hips"

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@badassbillyb Wut?

[@badassbillyb]

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[@Giraffe27]

@@Jenifer_R_ it’s from an old John mulaney stand up bit

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@Giraffe27 Oh, cheers. I'm still preoccupied with the horse in the hospital.

[@Pooky1991]

I remember Claudia was the most depressing and horrifying part of that book. I actually teared up at her death in both the book and movie.

[@SjofnBM1989]

How they bought her little furniture for her room to be proportional so she'd feel like an adult 😭😭

[@TheBreechie]

Oh and the film displayed her so much older….. The book was so so distressing

[@jodieg6318]

I remeber the line in Queen of the Damned: "None of us ever change, we jut become more fully who we are." To me that showed the tragedy of being a vampire in Vampire Chronicles: its a state of stagnation. Imagine being stuck in the physical, mental, and emotional state ypu were when you were turned? Even the Brat Prince himself, despite his centuries of experience, is still very much that 20 year old wanting to piss off every authority figure in his life out of contrariness.

[@shaelunamidnight3585]

🎉well said

[@Shannon-vv6rr]

''Never moving forward, never going back''

[@summmerly]

Lestat literally baby trapped Louie

[@MegaMegafran]

In the anime Hellsing there is a brief appereance of a minor character named Helena a vampire "child" having been turned at a young age but was centuries old and behaved like an adult towards the female lead who was just recently turned into a vampire and was struggling to accept it, it was a very mismatched moment where the one that looked like a child seemed so old and the one that was physically an adult seemed so young. You can see the author took inspiration from Claudia, but in her case instead of being angry of her condition she was mostly just sad and resigned to a life without death. I always liked that character despite not having much screen time, since most of the time vampires are portrayed as violent, chaotic, or lustful, in her case you can see she was just exhausted and done with inmmortality and had no interest in creating chaos, she really embodied the belief that humans are not meant to live forever because the madness sets in before forever comes.

[@misabelrodriguez1163]

"madness sets in before forever comes" Holy shit that is deep

[@MegaMegafran]

@@misabelrodriguez1163 I wish I could say I came up with that quote but I just read it somewhere cant recall where but it stuck with me, it is pretty deep right?

[@TrippyKitty08]

Oh I liked Helena too! She was a soothing presence of only for a moment. And yes sad and secluded.

[@mariliadasilvaferreira326]

I think that all the tragic life of Claudia comes from the fact that Anne Rice write her based on the life and feelings of his own daughter that died at the same age as Claudia. In a certain way his daughter is forever a child too.

[@OGseoulite]

Her***

[@innos3ntCrim3]

Michele Rice died of leukemia, age 5. She was Anne’s forever child, never to change or grow.

[@leahcanton]

A child who will never die.

[@c.ladimore1237]

i might argue that the vampire mind does not change, or not much. sure they can learn more but they are essentially a product of their time, trapped, & have huge difficulties adapting to new eras as armand said about his coven. if I remember correctly, louis also says he is "unchangeable" during the interview at the end

[@1Skorpia]

Of course their MINDS change. Their physical self doesn't. They can even mature like Claudia did which is huge.

[@amandastokes7545]

I've always heard that in order to stay hidden from humanity, vampires are very well adept at adapting to the changing times otherwise humans would catch on.

[@tophers3756]

​@@1Skorpia but even the book says that because Claudia was so young and hadn't matured as a human first she was less human than vampires that had. What she matured into was sophisticated and intelligent, but it wasn't very human in behavior or mentality.

[@mizznyght205]

I feel as though it was addressed in the way of vampires taking new partners to keep them in line with the times so to speak.

[@innieplays]

It's heartbreaking. Makes me tear up. Anne Rice really really put to paper all the emotions and all the heartache and despair that came with it. Despite Claudia's viciousness - her story is like you say, just tragic. And you just can't help feel sorry for her.

[@lordofpain3476]

They called Lestat " The Brat Prince " for a reason . He just did things.............

[@elpeoPsselemoHehT]

My daughter just turned five last month, and I absolutely love her with every fiber in my being...but putting her in Claudia's situation...my god. I know, as a parent, we all say we wish they could stay small forever, but to never be able to grow outside of such a small existence would be worse than hell. Plus...if my daughter were a vampire...the rest of us mortals would be in FEAR. 🤣

[@ErinDeBuitleir]

I just thought about that with my nephew he just turned 8 2days ago (June 7th) as much as I treasure holding him in my arms as a newborn and sometimes view him as that baby I REFUSE to condemn him to that.... especially when he had got temper tantrums 😂😂😂I'm good

[@catspaw3092]

There was another immortal child but he was on one episode of the Highlander series starring Adrian Paul. There was a kid who was either 9 or 10 & he became an immortal he wasn't too happy about being stuck as a 9 year old & he developed feelings for Amanda another immortal who was Dungan's former lover. Being turned into a vampire at too young an age really sucks which makes Claudia's life so sad & tragic. Her mind matured but her body didn't there are some children whose minds never mature after being turned they end up becoming wild savages. Because their minds didn't age along with their bodies which explains things in Twilight as to why the Volturi had all the child vampires killed accept Jane & her brother.

[@akelly4207]

While this is tragic I think a more logical take on the vampire child is that they don’t mentally develop either. In the comedy show What we do in the shadows a baby was turned into a Vampire. It’s 90 years later and he’s still a baby. He can’t speak or take care of himself. There is a different type of horror in that situation. A five year old doesn’t fully understand right from wrong, life and death or control. Think of it spreading to other children like measles, then adults who would go home an infect their families or just slaughter them. And just how creepy it would be that a bloodthirsty killer was in effect an innocent child, just playing and needing sustenance

[@thecthuloser876]

What We Do in the Shadows puts is one of my favorite pieces of vampire media. It's a comedy but it feels like the writers are actually consider how the existence of vampires would impact the world. Like, they really think about the world building, sometimes more than "serious" vampire media.

[@JaynaeMarieXIV]

In the book, Claudia's mind (and soul) ages and she begins to have the urges of a woman. That is the problem. She wanted to be with Louis like a woman would be with a man. Even so, the fact that on the outside they were father and daughter while internally, they had adult feelings for each other was destroying them both. The problem with making a child a vampire is the fact they have not lived a mortal life and experienced everything life had to offer (one reason why it even took so long for Edward to turn Bella) was because even for an adolescent/adult vampire, immortality is a grueling and unrelenting existence. To see the world evolve and change when you cannot is torturous. Even in Tolkien Lore, the fact that elves are immortal, they call death a gift given to men because that itself is a part of life they would never experience. Armand put it best when he said that what eventually kills a vampire: eternal life without change (paraphrase). As an immortal (and if you haven't read Shelley's Mortal Immortal), watching everyone you love die, then watching others in the world die is bad enough, but knowing you never will causes a paradox that contradicts nature but also religion because eternal life is something that can only happen after death. To steal from a child--or even a teenager--all mortal life has to offer (with or without a choice) is the crime.

[@aimeem]

Why did they punish her rather than (or at least in addition to) the one who made her?

[@lenarosic]

Not related to Vampire Chronicles...but you may be interested in this: in South Slavic/Balkan folklore and mythology there is creature called DREKAVAC, CIKAVAC, BUKAVAC, NEKRŠTENAC,...who is actually cursed child up to the age of 7 that died either unbaptized or without the real name (pagan Slavs had a naming custom where a child would recieve TEMPORAL name and PERMANENT (real) name at the age of 7).

[@421541Michee]

I always wondered about the idea that claudia is a six year old woman in a child's body. Science has proven that a brain It isn't even fully developed until like twenty five. I'd imagine if her body is stunted, her brain would be too. I guess I just wonder how much a 5-10 year old can really learn and grasp. I'm sure she couldn't understand that. She wouldn't be growing up, and that would be hard on her. But she would still fundamentally always be 5 (in the novel). I was wondered why in twilight Edward didn't just become a business man. I assumed It was poor casting in the movie that they had a man that could pass for forty play a high-schooler. There are young looking adult though. He could have a business and just work behind the scenes so that he doesn't have to explain why he hasn't aged. I always wondered why the solution was to just bounce to different high schools and forever be a teen. Unless thats all his brain was capable of

[@Hallucid.]

👉🏼they didn't stay highschoolers in twilight. They just started out that way. It was stated in twilight that the earlier they go to a Place and start their lives there the longer they can remain and it not be noticed theyve aged. The particular story is just beginning when they move back to Forks after many many years of being away so long that people who knew them had passed away. The natives with their legends have long memories though, because of their stories passed on through generations they recognized with the current score. Also the tribes magic was awakened when the Cullens moved back that affirmed their belief that they were the cold ones from the tribes legends.

[@ultron374]

Because S Mayers is a bad writer..

[@1Skorpia]

Edward was in a depression. Who wants to work while depressed. A sullen teenager is pretty common.

[@Shannon-vv6rr]

Cause in the books they were all turned young so they look like highschool teens. If they didn't go to highschool, that would be very strange to the people of Forks and they'd have to relocate.

[@aimeem]

@@Shannon-vv6rr The actors they cast could easily pass for 30-plus. They could at least have gone to college and not have to be constantly surrounded by teenagers.

[@ttyngordon]

If she waited, she might have been able to learn to body jump like Lestat did in The Body Thief

[@unknownstranger6875]

Homer from Near Dar (1987) has a similar fate as Claudia. He was turned as a child and is a man stuck inside a young boy’s body. Him and Severen bicker because Severen says he’s tired of hearing Homer complain about it lol. It is sad though and terrifying that in his desperation for a companion who can be just like him, he decides to turn Caleb’s sister into a vampire too.

[@MartinMackie]

Lestat never had a chance to learn the way of a Vampire since the one that turned him did not even stay around. Lestat was thrown out as a fledgling and had to learn on his own. He even turned his own mother into a vampire if you remember correctly before leaving and arriving in the "New World".

[@CafeVampire]

I'll always remember the part where she got pissed at Lestat for turning her. He turned people without giving it too much thought, and that didn't always turn out that great for him.

[@hawk66100]

@@CafeVampire If I remember correctly Lestat asked his mother if she wanted to be turned and she consented.

[@Mokiefraggle]

@@hawk66100 The problems came _after_ he turned her, yeah. Gabrielle de Lioncourt was a very strong-willed woman, just in a sickly, dying body. When she was turned, she could suddenly do as she damn well pleased, and took to everything with great fervor...but the fact that they no longer had a link to one another (as a vampire can't read the thoughts of the ones they turn, which is what leads to at least some of the conflict between a maker and their fledglings) made both her and Lestat awkward and uncomfortable with one another at best, and downright volatile at worst. Much like his later relationships with Louis and Claudia, while his relationships with other vampires he didn't share blood with, like Marius or even Armand, were much more pleasant. It seems like there's just...a whole weird conflict wherein all vampires hate their makers to some degree, and it's implied to be at least somewhat due to the lack of ability to communicate between their minds. Rice never made it totally clear why, but it was a constant factor between Lestat and his mother, Lestat and Nikki (such that Nikki came to despise him, and threw himself into a fire possibly to spite his former friend and probable lover), Lestat and Louis, Lestat and Claudia...and for someone who _isn't_ Lestat but also has a turbulent relationship with the one he turned, look at Armand and Daniel. This inability to psychically interact somehow made their relationships strained and damaged.

[@paulcowlishaw]

Poor Claudia. How did she cope.

[@sarahsbakingcreations]

This rule, whether it's mentioned in Interview with the Vampire, Twilight, or another franchise, is one where im like, "Well, DUH!!!" All portrayals of vampires i saw as a child were all ADULTS or looked like adults!!!

[@jax4652]

I can understand the idea of being trapped in a body, of constantly needing a carer to do anything. It is hell.

[@belavera994]

casting kirsten dunst as claudia was a perfect choice, I bet the new actress did a great job too, but why is it so hard to stay loyal to the source material these days? that's how claudia's being described in the books, "claudia was a five-year-old vampire child. with long curly golden hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, she was described as resembling a perfectly painted china doll." I wonder why movie producers always feel the need to change existing stories, is it so hard to come up with creative, new ones? I really believe the entertainment industry, especially when it comes to movies and series, is creatively bankrupt.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes bailey bass did a brilliant job in season 1 of the tv series I understand why they cast a someone older than in the book due to the fact that kid actors are only allowed to work for certain hours plus I don't think a child that young can handle playing a vampire

[@Volkrad]

A vampire's body is literally frozen in the same age, and the brain of a 5 year old is not even fully developed, let that sink in.

[@hollychavezgalleryandposts]

There was also Homer on Near Dark. I actually thought this was one of the most poignant portrayals of innocence lost through vampirism in cinema.

[@elizabethlovett4318]

I've never seen or read any Anne Rice vampire books or movies except Queen of the Damned (which was okay I guess) and not sure I will because I don't really care for movies with Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. I had no idea there was a series though, so I'll check that out instead. What you cover about Claudia in this video reminded me a little of another character in another dark franchise. Her name is Marion Louise Dahl, better known among Batman fans as Baby Doll from Batman the Animated Series & New Adventures of Batman specifically. I loved Batman the Animated Series during the 90s and some episodes got pretty dark for a cartoon of that time and one of those darker episodes was about Baby Doll. Baby Doll was a child actress born with systemic hypoplasia which kept in the form of a little girl physically. Even though she only appeared in one episode for both series I mentioned, the first did very well in showing her clear despair and torment over never growing into an adult woman's body. As she mentally aged and struggled to find work as an actress, she spiraled and eventually became a criminal. She's a very tragic criminal in the Batman franchise. Baby Doll may not be immortal and the reason for her not aging is different, it still remains that she and Claudia are tragic prisoners of their own bodies against their wills and would never get what they desire most: to be physically grown up and seen/treated as a woman. Within the first minute of explaining Claudia's circumstance, I immediately felt horror and pity for her because I somewhat understand the tragedy she found herself in. I only say ''somewhat'' because even with my own body insecurities over the years, I know they're trivial compared to Claudia & Baby Doll's conditions. The cause and their lives are different but they're undeniably similar. Poor Claudia. Poor Baby Doll.

[@TheExhaustipatedBookworm]

I wanted to ask, will you ever cover Syfy’s tv show Van Helsing. There are interesting vampires, such as ferals, feeders, ancient ones, elders, brides, and of course The Dark One, also known as Dracula played by amazing Tricia Helfer.

[@jazcc]

Great vid. Love to see you growing channel

[@DjDiamstatOfficial]

I have teenage daughter and teenage son and 10 months apart and i can only imagine my daughter's rebellious nature and cruelty as a vampire my son is so sweet and loving but can have a remote and is head strong

[@MR-rj2qw]

They go crazy in their little bodies. I must say I do not remember the head transplantation thing but I read the books many many years ago.

[@Mokiefraggle]

I think it comes up in The Vampire Armand, that he recalls doing it. He implies that she didn't have any ability to actually make the body properly move, so she just kind of flailed and staggered, and the poorly stitched incision across her neck spewed blood and didn't heal. So he left her to the sun as much as a way to cover for his horrific experiment as he did to execute her as both an abomination and a vampire who'd tried to kill her creator.

[@MadsMikkelsenlover2005]

Amazing video as always! Keep up the good work!

[@thiagom8478]

Just one detail_ and far from me to want to defend Monsieur Lestat, after what he did to that fellow at the end of The Tale of the Body Thief; but, for the sake of fairness_ and someone correct me if I am wrong. The young Claudia was dying. Wasn't she. Her family had died from the plague, not the most pleasant way to die I think. She would either have the same fate or starve to death alone. Is perhaps easy to say that she got a tragical fate, looking things without consider context. A bit less easy to say: "Yes, I would leave a 5 years old child alone to die an horrible death knowing that I had the power to save her", I suppose. Her life was finished, except for whatever moments of pain she could still enjoy. Whatever defects her existence as a vampire had, imperfect as it was, it was all free bonus. She was perhaps too selfish, or not intelligent enough, to understand that. Made the choice to portray herself as a victim and blame those who had saved her. As time passed and she gained maturity she could have evolved beyond that, but unfortunately she never reached that level of maturity. We are falling in the bad habit of compare things with what things "should be", according to arbitrary ideals, as if circumstances were always ideal. Claudia should have lived a normal life, of a child, and develop a mature body and mind as a woman. Lestat "stole" that from her. No, that's not what happened. Claudia should have died a horrible dead like millions of other 5 old children died at the time, from the plague or from the misery that accompanied it. THAT is what Lestat stole from her. The other option was never on the table for Miss Claudia.

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

I feel like a feral adolescent vampire would be a viscous dictator, as they wouldn't have the maturity to understand how to control their abilities or emotions, without being completely consumed by their hunger.

[@Bri-nc8yp]

I would want to change at age 30. 30 is the perfect age to stop growing/changing. Your brain/ body is fully developed.

[@Jwa-fo6nb]

Or maybe 27

[@1Skorpia]

19 for me. I loved my body then.

[@malkavian5006]

Great video!

[@stjamesdean]

I think it’s generated by IA . As you can see, their hands are really creepy.

[@mspionage1743]

The Claudia in the movie was young but probably twice the age of the Claudia from the books who was basically a toddler.

[@tagz3924]

I feel like turning a vampire in your 30’s wouldn’t be so bad.

[@NanciBK]

It was not just the body that is trapped as a child forever that is an issue with child vampires. It's also what it does to the mind of a person who becomes a supernatural monster at such a young age, while the brain is still developing, the overwhelming urges and the change in world view, the immense powers and perceptions without any ability to make sense of anything. What would it do to the mind of an ordinary child to suddenly be something like a demigod, a hunter among humans? How would it affect their development of their sense of self, morals, behavior, mental health and stability? And if a child's mind is still developing when they are turned and then frozen at that age, how much could they never grasp or really come to terms with in their child mind? How can they ever have any "humanity" or anything akin to human sensibilities as they "age" as a vampire? Child vampires are likely to usually end up as uncontrollable monsters, suitable for not much more than carnage and chaos, and thus an incredible risk to the others in exposure. Vampires may be strong, but they still live in the shadows and fear exposure, because they are still vulnerable to the mob, to fire, to the sun, and helpless during their daylight slumber. Just as there was a taboo against revealing themselves to humanity (which Lestat also broke in his rock star phase and was marked for death as a result) the child vampire taboo is a self-preservation rule. A monstrous child risks exposing them all through their out of control behavior and bringing down the wrath of human society on them. It's also harder to hide a child who doesn't grow than an adult who does not age. Two or three years in one place and people begin to ask serious questions. Honestly, for being made a vampire at just 5, Claudia was pretty well adjusted, all things considered. She was still somewhat psychotic, if human diagnoses can even be applied here, and had severe body dysmorphia and other mental health issues. She was living a tortured existence for sure, but she may well have come to terms with it in time. Vampire relationships are different. Lestat likely would have forgiven her for trying to kill him, given what he did to her in creating her. She was not like the out of control monsters depicted in Twilight, because she had been given something like a domestic upbringing with Louis and Lestat and taught to value human behaviors, human things and human life, and perhaps also had an exceptional mind herself. I could imagine her living in a lonely castle somewhere near a windswept shore, like a gothic princess, reading, painting and playing the piano with passion and throwing the occasional masked balls, as Lestat does in the later books, surrounded by vampires and helpers who love her, like Louis. But ultimately, her death by sun was probably for the best, for her and for the others. It's likely she would have grown worse over time, not better.

[@JT5555]

the series chibi vampire has a child vampire. her name is anju maaka (her original last name is marker but her family immigrated from somewhere in europe to japan 200 years ago to escape prosecution as vampires) and she is an 11 year old gothic lolita with a possessed doll collection and a puppet that is possessed by the spirit of a serial killer that she has to keep in line.

[@sarahgirlisit]

Great video!

[@grec.]

Idk but the idea of a 5 year old girl developing her emotional knowlage and wisdom in a 5 year old's brain, is absurd to me. The female brain fully develops at age 21/23 approximately. So idk how on earth Claudia's brain could have mature if her body didn't. 🤔

[@Mikshvert]

Vampires are locked into the body, but the body itself does not affect the mind. The mind becomes free from the effects of the body, so the mind does change and grow. It matters little what the actual maturity of the brain is, the chemistry no longer works, the body is just a shell that is full of redundant parts.

[@foofoo3344]

Restraint and/or self-control

[@Aerie925]

Yes, you shouldn’t turn a child into a vampire, but Armand and gang break the rule of killing their own kind (as it’s portrayed in the 90s film) by killing Claudia and her new caretaker. If it had been portrayed as more of a mercy killing and something that Claudia wanted, then I think I would feel differently about it. The way it happens in the book is a little more understandable to me, that it was to cover up the botched head transplant.

[@missjamjam]

rewatching this after watching s2 ep 7 it was brutal

[@jasminnemcdonald94A]

Claudia was only 5 years old in the book.

[@eon001]

Woa😮

[@jasminnemcdonald94A]

​@@eon001 It's true.

[@sifilore9462]

1st here. Like I've said before, Claudia is like Esther from Orphan. From Blade films of 1998-2004, there rare pure bloods that r born as vampires and age very slowly. Van Helsing 2004, showed 2 vamp kids, which likely means in that universe, the rule doesn't exist and they like in Twilight stay in the heads of their turned age but have self control, perhaps. I'm no novelist but in my own fanfics, I've imagine vampires will age up to 25 years old, while those there and older will stay where they r. A quarter of ur life has past, is when u stop. Plus scientifically confirmed, that's when the brain 🧠 stops growing in size. Doesn't mean it effects ur personality or knowledge, its just the size, really.

[@danniellefenton-johnston8123]

can you please do a video on baby jenks I know in the book she’s explained to me around 14 to 16 years old and she’s the second youngest vampire in the vampire Chronicles that I can think of other than Claudia who is five she is mentioned in the Vampire Lestat

[@hawk66100]

If I remember she dies in a car accident.

[@tophers3756]

​@@hawk66100In Queen of the Damned Akasha emolates her after Jenks arrives at the burned out St. Louis, MO coven house.

[@hawk66100]

@@tophers3756 Wow I completely forgot about that lol. Thanks. It’s been so long since I read the chronicles.

[@robertlund8864]

When will anyone mention Vittorio?

[@micbln8967]

... and then we have marius making 12yo benji a vampire to make armand happy...

[@serenityjyad6683]

I love the tv series

[@Ciara1594]

Not unlike the Immortal Kenneth (Highlander: the Series) who is an 800 year old man in a 10 year old boy's body.

[@noegonzalez268]

What about baby jenks?

[@ld4206]

Hey Dean I have some Anne Rice books in my book collection.

[@mkohlhorst]

You really should go by the book lore not the movie. Vampires don't develop a unique, rather the vampires all develop the same gifts as they age. Lois is considered one of the weakest vampires until Lestat (as well as David Talbot and Merrick) gives him more blood centuries later... at which point he is as powerful as any millennia old vampire and nearly as powerful as Lestat himself. Age and blood govern their strengths not some random lottery.

[@itsdantaylor]

Let's not kid ourselves, the real reason it's forbidden to make vampires so young is.........because there's no way a actor can play said character for several years without straining our sense of disbelief LoL. Its PROBABLY why they 'aged up' Armand in the interview with a Vampire series.

[@1Skorpia]

Armand was 17. I can see a 17 yr old actor pulling it off. Especially a mature 17 yr old .

[@HawkinaBox]

Wow, looking up the image of a 5 year old is much more disturbing. No wonder why she was so angry.

[@Schelbig]

They have the same rule in being human (the American version) as well

[@FranklinWilson-ev9dq]

BECAUSE, THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE, TO MATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@user-dh4um4qi7h]

How about "The Annointed One" on Buffy, the Vampire Slayer? The character was killed off because the actor was noticeably growing up.

[@robertsmiley2207]

I'm glad this experiment was never put in the film 🎥 I wouldn't even know about it if you didn't mention it because I didn't read the book 📖

[@tophers3756]

It's not in the book. I imagine it came from one of Rice's notoriously bad later novels where she revised her earlier work.

[@nicholasblackmore8325]

Just a thought experiment in the world of darkness games vampires are able to do this acted called deoblery idk if i spelled that right probably not anyway what it means is a vampire that drinks from another vampire and drinks to the last drop the one that does the dinking takes the soul of the victim vampire but if the one that eats the soul is weak the eaten soul eats them instead and takes over the vampires body cool idea of this ancient immortal child that finally finds a weak enough vampire to take their body idk sounded like a cool backstory

[@Mikshvert]

Diablarie - the worst crime, a crime above inflicting final death. Yes this is rather possible, but diablarie is not just taking over. Its Digestion of the soul and by testimony of characters in the setting that know of the afterlife, it also destroys the soul robs it of any afterlife completely. So the only way to take a body over is to be consumed, and then displace the soul of the Diablarist. Only a fool would consent to diabliraze, only to consent to be forever erased. A character doing this is taking a risk, a huge risk in fact. Why would the donor wish to die in this way? Diablarie also lowers one's generation, and thus those who commit it grow stronger as their blood gets thicker. would make an intersting story tho, about how an elder vampire trapped in a child body grows so desperate that they stage a diablarie on them, only to be foiled by the diablarists.

[@iResonate]

I think Bailey left the show and they recasted. At least i remember hearing she did.

[@targetdreamer257]

I know this video based off the book lore but if a vampire is actually dead how can a dead brain acquire new information. Shouldn’t the dead brain of a vampire be “locked in”?

[@ErinDeBuitleir]

Another movie that deal with this is Near Dark the character of Homer

[@user-xd9re9qm5x]

Name the movie

[@teejaylecapois9741]

We love Lestat

[@sarahhaskins6307]

I'm looking forward to season 2 as well but claudia has actually been recast for season 2 which is really to bad.

[@jasminnemcdonald94A]

Well, that's messed up.

[@TheTaste-bv4pd]

Before 5 we are all ID.

[@OstaraBooks]

Bailey was a little old to play Claudia and did not fit that part.

[@Schelbig]

Agreed

[@1Skorpia]

The guy that played lestat looks too old also.

[@tophers3756]

I avoided the series like the plague

[@coldandaloe]

Well the source material said don’t make kids because they can’t take care of themselves

[@briang9581]

This is my second comment in the field of supernatural medicine in as many days. What's wrong with me? Again, I have no experience with medicine or the undead. I am simply following common sense... at my own risk. Brain development is a slow process that under normal circumstances continues well into ones twenties. If a young vampire's body is frozen in time, how could they gain maturity after death? Maturity is not simply based on experience or interaction. It is a function of a normally developing brain. The proof of this are the myriad of developmental disorders that young people are plagued with. These disorders can see a patient who is given education and attention stunted without hope of change. I could be wrong, but just another reason why young vampires are cursed.

[@apolitis1]

The book and the movie have something wrong imo. Her under-developed brain was frozen in time as a 5yo, so she'd never mentally mature even if she lived for centuries. So for example she wouldn't be a 60yo ''adult'' in the body of a child. She'd always be a child mentally.

[@tophers3756]

Wait, when did a ludicrous head transplant occur? Was it in one of Rice's horrible later books? (I stopped after Body Theif and only skimmed Memnoch the Devil). I was told she did a lot of revisionist nonsense in later novels like having vampires actually have sex. She should've left well enough alone after Queen of the Damned. Even as early as that title g her vampire fiction was slipping in quality .

[@brianhartline1197]

Don't forget Armand was made at 12 if I'm remembering correctly

[@travisciha1773]

Marius made him a vampire at 17 but he did aquire him at 12 from the slavers.

[@fatimarezigui3892]

What the hell is soo special about Louis though?

[@1Skorpia]

He had no bloodlust. He had zero pleasure in feeding on humans. It's very rare for a vampire not to take enjoyment and FEEL PEACE feeding. He would rather be a tortured soul.

[@amandastokes7545]

​@@1Skorpiathat's all?

[@gizzmowalliss]

He was a miserable sap story.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

So, the brain doesn’t grow bigger?

[@bookwormaddict3933]

That never stopped Stephen King.

[@noneyabidness9644]

I don't think larger size matters much to animals who can more easily devour their prey due to being smaller and more deceptive. It isn't like she ever reached puberty, or had sexual desires.

[@Aedra101]

Claudia did have sexual desires in the book. I don't know about the movies or tv show, but she absolutely did in the book. It was one of the bigger points of her self hatred, if I'm remembering correctly. It's been a while since I read the book, but I always loved Claudia, she was my favourite

[@DjDiamstatOfficial]

Lol my sons name is Lestat

[@zerothehero123]

Not in Japan it ain't!

[@angelacooper8973]

Can’t vampires have kids? It’s not just undead kids plus in my sims games I love my vampire babies.

[@bwy553]

The movie is the only one worth watching

[@maepicnic2460]

But they can still kill her shes immortal not invincible.

[@mschoy1597]

Because children are CREEPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@madvillainy6845]

Lestat was a buster.👎🏾

[@Traigame2cervezas]

Bayley wasn't brilliant, she wasn't a good Claudia AT ALL. That's not Claudia and that's the end of the story, Anne Rice would have HATED the remake.

[@dicktiny9428]

Oh really?

[@amandastokes7545]

@Traigame2cervezas from what I heard from some hardcore AR fans is that the second she passed, the studio creating the show went their own direction against the wishes of her son. I always hear how AR & her son gave consent to how it was going & were on board with it but according to her son, once she passed, the studio decided to go in their direction which went against ARs way & her sons. He distanced himself from the project which is why his name isn't credited on helping because he wanted nothing to do with it. Just FYI, this is what I heard & not what I directly saw & we all know how rumors can get so don't take my word 100%. Just figured I'd throw it out there. I'd hope it's not true but you never know considering the studio already has gotten the rights to the source material.

[@ItsKadelyn]

Yes, Anne Rice was involved in the production of the 2020 "Interview with the Vampire" series, which is based on her novel of the same name. However, she passed away in 2021 at the age of 80, before the series aired.

[@zach11241]

It’s vile to turn a young boy into a vampire because you’ve then condemned them to an infinite life of being sought after by priests.

[@master2uall88]

Well I can see a reason for creating a young child vampire but I'm not going to specifically state it right here because it might get the Democratic party all excited about making vampire little kids

[@tophers3756]

Oh give it a rest and go back to your Q propaganda.