Vampire Counts vs Wood Elf Realms | Warhammer The Old World Battle Report

Emerging from the safety of a once great fortress, now decrepit and crumbling, the vampire counts ride forth to defend their territory against an encroaching foe.
As the wood elves seek to expand their realms beyond the known borders, they cannot abide the rotting stench of death and the dark magics of the undead.
Clashing head on, both forces determined to expand and defend their empires, the war between the natural world and the risen dead rages on. Will the elven forces be able to vanquish the once mighty vampire lords, or will death triumph in destroying the invading forces of the wood elf realms.
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[@mikewyatt2262]

Oh hell yeah! My only issue with Tabletop Tactics Old World bat reps is that there are not enough of them!!!! Beautiful Armies and Great Players!!! Keep it up!

[@tomasv8732]

I love that you are doing Old World reps! This is amazing

[@badgersauce]

Love the way you guys highlight the figurines when going over the army lists, the closeups are very much appreciated!

[@steve1363]

😂 it's my favourite it of battle reports

[@knifemouse]

This is y'alls last battle report on The Old World in the last few months. Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but was this game dropped from the channel? I am really enjoying going through the backlog of Old World battle reports, hope you guys revisit the game again soon.

[@tabletoptactics]

Apologies for the late release everybody! Looks like Grotty failed to schedule it. Enjoy the show! ❤🕷️

[@tylerframpton2113]

I will never forgive you for this Grotty. Consider this the start of a blood fued

[@tabletoptactics]

@tylerframpton2113 The little monster has scampered off into a corner. I think he’s trying to hide. 😶‍🌫️

[@marcinmagierski3718]

Would be so kind and share the source of those beautiful Wood elves Figurines?

[@tylerframpton2113]

​@@tabletoptactics Now I feel bad.. Fued over

[@12aptures]

Youre back! I swear i havent seen you in a while! Although, you need to play 40k !

[@MagicAlfi]

Thanks for the old world content the game really deserves every bit attention it can get.

[@TheGeneralGarcia]

Even though you could tell that they're all 40k players really slogging through, it's still great to see this quality of Old World battle reports.

[@mrviking8450]

Those wood elves look incredible

[@stephenmercerProductions]

It would be great to have a video showcasing the armies or showing how they were made/painted.

[@mrviking8450]

@@stephenmercerProductions I'd love to see that

[@B-jorno]

Agreed, simply amazing, would love to know where these were bought! The non GW stuff at least, the dragon and warhawk mage look amazing

[@AllfortheKurnothi]

@@B-jorno Not sure about the Dragon be everything else looks kit bashed from AoS and Blood Bowl. The warhawk looks like it created using Alarielle's wings, the tail is the front bark cloth off of a Treelord, the body looks like it is Belthanos. The scouts are a mix of Idoneth Deepkin Namarti Reaver bodies and Wildwood Rangers heads. The Wild Riders look like the Snarlfang Riders wolves with the original Wild Riders.

[@B-jorno]

@@AllfortheKurnothi thanks man! Time to buy some stuff haha

[@rileybender3655]

So sick! I love seeing the dragons hit the table. So hype to build and paint one for my Warriors of Chaos!

[@swolehammer]

Very subtle and cool kitbashes on the Wood Elf side! A sweet conflict between two of my favs on the channel too! 🧛🏻‍♂️ 🧝‍♀️

[@Xaltotun]

The zombie dragon looks insane! Btw, I love the fun chemistry in the battle report, makes the whole game come alive. Looking forward to seeing more batreps from you.

[@MatthewBarsby]

Lawrence, in a vampire counts army your general must be a wizard (page 4 of the PDF) so your vampire lord can't be your general if he's not a wizard.

[@tabletoptactics]

Ah, that’s a good catch! Thanks for the reference. So in this list, the Necromancer would have to be the general then. Probably worth shifting some gear around to make my vampire a wizard in that case I think!

[@MrTudesauce]

​@@tabletoptactics also, idk if it was being done off-screen, but every time the sceptre of de noirot is used, you have to roll to see if you wound yourself on a 1 :)

[@tabletoptactics]

@MrTudesauce Yeah we did that off screen :)

[@burningbublesjohnson9736]

Love the wood elves converted out of AOS models. The archers from the Idoneth are basically invisible and I wouldn't have noticed were it not for the fact that I painted 20 of those things lol

[@kravernar]

Love your old world battle reports!! Any plans to cover the game more in the future? :)

[@Raddaatt]

Having some Lawrence camp made my day. Ty all, I really needed it!!

[@rogerofsalerno6127]

That Wood Elf army is so beautifully painted. Well done!

[@MellowGibson]

Well done! You have mastered your technique! You have perfected the art of the battle report. Beautifully painted amazing editing and charming banter.

[@KristopherGrey-t1c]

Grotty is forgiven for its mishap/forgetting to schedule the latest battle report today because your fabulous battle report's are Awesome & love the special effects, banter, jinx's unlucky roll's, etc, & excellent episodes 👌

[@tabletoptactics]

Thank you!

[@Jademalo]

That was a great game, those dragons need a stern talking to I think. Not so much unstoppable force vs immovable object as just two immovable objects looking at eachother menacingly, lol. Absolutely loved seeing Wood Elves, gorgeously painted too!

[@Phangmaster]

35+ years ago I played a tournament game (the 1st ever GW UK tournament I think) as Wood Elves against Vampire Counts. It was a total disaster. I rolled a 12 for my first fear save and ran away. That caused units nearby to roll, and 3/4 of the army ran off the board within 2 or 3 turns. Mental. I think I rolled 5 or 6 11/12s. I never played Warhammer again, instead concentrated on guitars and girls. I never looked back.

[@TheGeneralGarcia]

Thank you for more OLD WORLD content. That’s why I’m a member! Love it! One thing, vortexes are always moving, so if you roll a hit on the scatter dice, use the little arrow to determine the direction. ;)

[@Become_The_Hero]

Is this true? I find the scatter dice application very confusing in tow! Got a page reference for the rule and how it actually means we should use the scatter for this? I assume the same application for things like fanatics too…!?

[@TheGeneralGarcia]

@@Become_The_Hero something only scatters with the scatter dice, if it says "scatter". If something moves in a random direction you could use whatever means you like to determine that direction. If you use the scatter dice, the "hit" means nothing.

[@Become_The_Hero]

@@TheGeneralGarcia mmm that’s a nice way of thinking about it. I question it a little because the scatter dice is mentioned explicitly in the rulebook and GW Intend us to use their scatter dice. It’s a good line of logic though and sounds like a sensible approach to me

[@MrTudesauce]

I've heard it both ways :))

[@TheGeneralGarcia]

@@Become_The_Hero Historically when something moved in a random direction the small arrow was used. That's why it's there. But we found no mention of the exact way of figuring out a random direction in the Old World basic rulebook.

[@teddybear-el5wz]

beautifully painted armies, extremely fun players and awesome Old World content! Love it!!

[@darnokx9277]

That Wood Elves army is a piece of art! Beautifully done, thanks for sharing them!

[@kraye0789]

Incredible Wood elf army! Thanks for continuing the great Old World reports!

[@cats_like_felix]

More of these, please!

[@phoenixhazard]

Yes - I wish they did more old world. Easily the best battle reports out there for the game

[@corvaxblackfeather6529]

Those Direwolfs remind me so much about the Resident Evil Zombie Hounds ... i LOVE it. Take more Zombies next time and make it 'Medieval Raccon City' hehe ^^

[@tabletoptactics]

Yeah I can see that, you’re right!

[@mohussain4792]

Amazing conversion work on the Wood Elf army! Really gives it a unique feel!

[@Pustule2006]

Oh this is a fun one! My two favorite races!

[@Yoyoda_del_umbra]

Thank you for the TOW content. Nice report ! 🐺🐺🐺🐺🦇🦇🦇

[@bunionsandcabbage6764]

I didn't think you could write an intro where the vamps were just like "let us exist, bro" and the evil wood elves were like "no we're gonna genocide you, bro. Die!" And have it make sense. Good work guys!

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Look tbf the Wood Elves in Warhammer aren't the peace loving Tolkien Elves 😂 these ones will hunt your entire bloodline for your Great-Great-Great-Greatx100 Grandfather chopping down a single tree in their forest 😂

[@froehmar]

Holy shit are the wood elves BEAUTIFULLY painted!

[@microamperio]

Great game and production! Thanks for sharing!

[@jpiesse]

Invocation should be putting back wizard level plus D3 grave guard, not just D3.

[@Gladelordperez]

Love the return to old would 10:22 . But Jinx, the Wild Riders have frenzy, you mentioned it when the wolves charged. +1 attack for the rider and mount.

[@M4zh.]

actually it does not apply to the mount. Like written p.171 : "This modifier does not apply to the model’s mount (in the case of a cavalry model), to the beasts that draw it (in the case of a chariot), or to its rider (in the case of a monster)."

[@laughingman4570]

The battle cry that strikes fear in the hearts of elves and men .... I'M TOUGHNESS SIX!!!

[@patp3725]

Love your Old World batreps, wouls love it if you made more! Specially if they contain the real heroes, the Skaven!

[@wongogwaldock7689]

We want more old world! good fun battle report as always 🤘🏻

[@darkshadowrift7652]

Glade Lord has the Strike First ability

[@Jademalo]

Are the Old World battle reports over? :( It's been half a year and I'm really sad, I was enjoying them so much

[@tabletoptactics]

We've been holding off doing Old World battle reports until they had more releases out. We are planning some games though so be sure to keep an eye out :) - Jinx

[@Jademalo]

@tabletoptactics ah, that's fantastic to hear! Here's hoping the releases come thick and fast in the new year, can't wait!

[@HughMurphy395]

You cannot use the shield on the Vampire to improve the Zombie dragon's save, only the rider's. So either way youll max out at a 4+ armour save. So you might as well be a wizard and leave it behind.

[@kueppe]

Where do U get this from? P. 204 U just use the better save. Mounted characters are totally different then in old editions.

[@HughMurphy395]

@@kueppe the FAQ

[@kueppe]

@@HughMurphy395 ah old school GW. However the wording is again meh. The shield doesn't improve the monsters armor save, but I am not using the monsters armor save to begin with (since it he rider got the better save). I am officially confused ;)

[@HughMurphy395]

@@kueppe You can either use the Dragon's full plate (4+ save), or the rider's save, which can be at best heavy armour and shield (4+ save). Either way neither can be improved to the 3+ save they were using in this game.

[@grlmgor]

@@HughMurphy395 The Vampire can use armour of silvered steel but then cant cast also a waste of points.

[@LtColShingSides]

One thing you missed about the Sceptpr of De Noir. Whenever you use it, you have to roll a d6. On a 1, the user loses a wound. So you can kill your necromancer by using it if you're not careful!

[@Slydamiser]

I will never get sick of seeing that red on the vampire lord!

[@riptide828]

I love it whenever hugh jackman plays vampires

[@Wise_Banshee]

Good video guys, pretty enjoyable!

[@emcdunna]

Just FYI, the wild riders should have been able to counter charge and destroy the dogs before they even got to fight and same for the black knights. Counter charge is so good😊

[@wraithship]

Yeah. Those Dogs really shouldn't be charging wild riders except as a speed bump haha

[@tylerframpton2113]

Well I checked for this video right on time

[@ethanhinton-j1i]

Same

[@johnshank5136]

Oh wow took me a bit longer

[@benburkin7942]

Awesome batrep, more old world! 😀

[@Swindondruid2]

Beautifully painted armies and a really fun battle report. Sadly the Wood Elves peaked in 7th Edition and won't be appearing in any Old World tournament reports.

[@isawaryokage]

holy hell! Those armies look amasing!!!

[@lambda1690]

Fun, good vibes and beautiful miniatures !

[@FPL_ChIcKeN]

Ouch, talk about one sided. GG!! Speed of the Raven!

[@davidcormode2700]

Great battle report, enjoyed it! A comment on the stomps- dragons are behomeths and get -2 on their stomps, but they cannot stomp other monsters

[@lilcal20]

realise its a older video, do you plan to produce anymore old world videos, had a recent look seemed like nothing for a long time?.

[@MrTudesauce]

Jinx (40:47) - "The spell is cast but you cannot cast any further spells this turn." Jinx (40:59) - "The spell didn't go off." 😄

[@cb3065]

In this case, what value is it cast on for dispelling?

[@MrTudesauce]

@@cb3065 it's all in the miscast table... On 8&9's it's "cast at its casting value, for the purpose of dispel attempts"... If it has multiple casting values, iirc you take the lowest of them... On 10 through 12s it counts as a perfect invocation....

[@elispiller2686]

Wow those Elves look incredible 😍

[@davidcox5030]

Excellent dragon fight! Really fun to watch :)

[@codycosman8271]

Jinx!!! I always know it’s going to be a great video every time she’s on! Plus she’s playing my favorite faction!

[@ComandaKronikk]

Nice. Old World Content.

[@endurance2939]

Really cool converted warhawk for the wood elves and wild riders on the new wolves kit is amazing. Would like to see more wood elf battle reports.🎉 However can vanguard units charge turn 1?

[@RyanF1313]

Lawrence is the best Vampire Count general! It doesn’t matter if he win or lose :)

[@eXileLies]

"Emerging from the safety of a once great Fortress, now decrepit and crumbling" Me too, Fortress, me too..

[@MrTudesauce]

Lol

[@Legogoliath]

@tabletoptactics What models did you use for your wood elfs? i wanted to start an army but cant really find good models for some of the units

[@nc1297]

Wild riders have counter charge and thr dire wolves are counted as cav

[@EleshScorn]

That WE army looks excellent. Is that the carmine dragon mini?

[@turin1240]

I'm always wondering, what is the name of the thing that holds the formations together an that nothing skids if you are moving it on the battlefield? Goood Battle Report!

[@mathiasmoller1989]

Wild riders have countercharge.

[@tabletoptactics]

Thanks for the catch, we’ll try and remember for next time :)

[@mathiasmoller1989]

@@tabletoptactics Happy to help! I played them today myself and it made wonders for their survivability to be able to strike first and take away alot of the opponents attacks.

[@assistantref5084]

You actually can't counter charge dogs (if you were talking about the T1 charges), since they're not cavalry, chariots or monsters. The three of them could have maybe used it against the black knights, though eyeballing it they might have been too close.

[@mathiasmoller1989]

@@assistantref5084 Good catch, I was well aware of the movement aspect to the rule but had completly forgotten about only being able to counter charge certain unit types. Fortunatly in my game I countercharged Inner Circle Knights so no accidental cheating.

[@assistantref5084]

It feels like a bit of an oversight IMO that you can't counter-charge war beasts. It makes them extremely strong into cavalry since you get the speed advantage without opening yourself up being counter-charged. They also usually have access to vanguard, which makes them even better at that role.

[@DaSkwire]

13:25 That moment when you realise you forgot to turn off "Shadow in the Warp" 😮

[@Bueolmutz]

You two are my favourite presenter combination!

[@michaelf.7339]

The quality of the battle report is excellent and it was very entertaining. However, the outcome of the battle was hardly a surprise and clear to me from turn 1 even though the lists are fairly balanced. I don't want to be mean but there is a clear experience/skill gap between the players (e.g. getting charged by wolves with wild riders is a nono). I'm sure, chef would have piloted the wood elves differently. That said, the game is still relatively new and we all have to start somewhere so keep up the good work and practice makes perfect.

[@TheLunchBreakPainter]

Absolutely stunning armies!!

[@mohamedmaiza3866]

love the intro!

[@B89Stenlund]

We need more Old World 😊

[@Marqhll]

Wait, so those are Eternal Guard models but you keep saying Glade Guard. Are you proxying models or was that just a mix up with the names?

[@Jason-35D]

A dance of toughness 6 dragons

[@wabisabi3753]

Just a beginner here, so I got two questions: what rule allows the Vampire Lord the Ward Save (of a 5+?)? And the Necromancer casts Vanhels on the Grave Guard, but they were not in his arc of vision - do I miss something? Thanks!

[@tabletoptactics]

No worries - the vampire’s ward save is on his data profile in the pdf. Vanhel’s I can’t remember, but I seem to think it didn’t require the vision arc, I’ll have to check the spell.

[@M4zh.]

@@tabletoptactics Can't find the ward save in data sheet. But you do have a regeneration of 5+ though.

[@josephmakarov6908]

Love Old World!

[@Wes43302]

Where did you find the forest dragon?

[@CLAREROMVoid]

More TOW BPs! Please!

[@robmcmurrough1897]

Buzzin!!!!

[@kenroth87]

Friendly reminder, invocation is wizard lvl + d3 for heavy infantry/ infantry :)

[@aarongelb9793]

I think the woodelves tree spirits only lose their regen saves to flaming attacks because they are flammable....I don't think just any magical attack ignores that unless it specifically states...am I wrong?

[@randomacademypilot]

Thank you.

[@ethanhinton-j1i]

OLD WORLD

[@Jimmyjazz1414]

Moooore old world!!!!

[@theshizzen3988]

Love it!

[@michaeldraftz3990]

Stubborn is FBIGO not Give Ground. FYI.

[@spitandfire]

Twigs vs bones! Who's gonna win?!

[@Xirianek]

More Old World! Bretonnia VS WE? 😃

[@jonathanhaynes9914]

Yes, Go Lawrence

[@buchnejf]

Incredible painting, captivating performances, but fall short on rules. I like to watch videos to learn the rules of the game and armies; I worry I won’t play correctly. Next hire is some obsessed rule lawyer to complete the trifecta?

[@mockduckcompanion]

WOOD ELVES MY BELOVED ❤️❤️❤️

[@kyleroberts3426]

great production but tidy up on the rules, you missed important rules for the wood elves

[@Sharpei97]

Does Sword of Kings not have a killing blow? Shouldn’t the dragon have died much earlier?

[@jarettduker1507]

More please

[@lindsayhill2851]

beautiful armies!

[@brendan8559]

Hi guys, could someone tell me where in the rule book it says magical attacks ignore ward saves? I’ve looked everywhere and cant find it

[@MrTudesauce]

I can't remember what specifically they were using in the game, but it's far more likely that whatever the armour/ability was provided a ward save against non-magical attacks, rather than there being a general rule about it

[@tt_jinx]

I had an enchanted shield giving me the wars save which specifically only worked against non - magical attacks 😊 - jinx

[@kyledauber8856]

Dryads need double 1s or flee?

[@connorjohnson1433]

Happy Nostalgia Noises!

[@jamesfletcher597]

Wild Riders have counter charge...

[@H4b0s]

how someone can buy vampire count this days?

[@themidnightaristocrat]

Most of the Vampire counts range can still be bought through Games Workshop. I think the only unit from this video that can't be bought is the Skeletons.