Van Build: Alternatives To Keep It Simpler And Cheaper

[@gabys2]

Awesome video. Another thing, often overlooked for some strange reason, is you're saving a ton of WEIGHT! You're saving by not hauling so many extra components! This philosophy, applied across an entire van build, will save a lot of weight, which turns into money saved on gas.

[@carlstephens1532]

And repairs to your vehicle, carrying around alot of weight in a non heavy vehicle , can and will cost you more than you realize

[@lisaventures]

So true! Weight was a big factor for us as well but yeah, it doesn't really get mentioned much..

[@MM-pw3wb]

Excellent points

[@FreeClimbersNet]

Loaded with 5000 lb, I get the same mileage as when empty. Lol, unfortunately, city and highway don't really matter much either. It would depend on the aerodynamics of the vehicle I suppose.

[@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN]

@@FreeClimbersNet Extra weight is harder on the clutch, the bearings etc. It is also harder on break disks/pads and suspension depending on the roads of course. Simple logic...a horse pulling 300kg's and a horse pulling 600kg's...which horse will fare better overall. Even though we may never notice any difference, doesn't mean there is no difference...human, horse or vehicle; less weight than necessary is a bonus; no matter how small 👍

[@serenityjewel]

Agreed! I'm in a SUV and I have a collapsible toilet that I use with cat litter, an electric USB faucet on my 5 gallon water bottle, a Jackery for AC and DC power, and a 4 cup electric kettle for hot water. People can have everything you said in your video and still keep it take so, so simple.

[@lisaventures]

Sounds great! Perfect setup for a smaller rig! :)

[@maylin1986]

I've not heard of a collapsible toilet or an electric USB faucet. I'll have to look those up soon. An electric kettle wouldn't be so bad either. * 0 * I have an SUV and trying to keep things small and usable is a challenge to figure out before going this route soon.

[@serenityjewel]

@@maylin1986 I have the TripTips portable toilet that's 10 inches high but they also have one that's 12 inches high. It's perfect for using inside the SUV but probably too short to use on the ground. I have the Proctor Silex 1 liter electric kettle to heat up water for my coffee and tea, to bathe and to wash dishes. One liter is 4 cups. It uses 1000 watts and I use it with a Jackery 1500. It only takes 2 minutes to boil water. There are collapsible kettles available but the largest I found was 700 ml. I'm thinking of switching to a 1.7 liter stainless steel kettle when I get back on the road.

[@stuartstuart866]

Try horse pellets, lighter weight, absorbs more, cheaper

[@lewisbale1]

​@mamaylin1986 Amazon

[@DannyB-cs9vx]

One can get by with what a hiker might carry on their backs. Something to eat, Some appropriate clothing, something to sleep in. You can find a place to do everything else.

[@shaneross7428]

I totally agree!

[@DavesRabbitHole]

Finally, someone that understands the definition of minimalist. I was getting really bored watching $50k+ "minimalist" van conversions, with walk in fridges, hot tubs, dishwashers, playstations etc. I've decided I don't actually want a "van conversion", I think I just want a van I can load up with my camping gear, and use like a metal tent on wheels. I will probably go as far as insulating it and putting in some windows and DC power, but that's it.

[@gypsy3709]

Some people even say insulation is not necessary, doesnt help that much... what do you think ?

[@mwalker4]

Added bonus to that approach, you don't need as much space and can go minivan, which is more fuel efficient and more incognito. I lived in an 02 Dodge Caravan for about 6 months and at no point did I wish it had a shower and a toilet in it!

[@jadabanks6898]

Right I went to this one site that said "affordable van conversion" something...and they started around 140k how on earth is that affordable for *most ppl?

[@rainbow19691]

Great video I'm glad someone is finally saying it, you don't need thousands of pounds to do #vanlife throw a mattress in the back and go have fun!

[@lisaventures]

Thank you! And well said! :)

[@heidiknuth7568]

As I get ready to start my van life, it was overwhelming to have people do videos and point to 5 or 6 things quickly saying...blah, blah and blah,...to my ears. It was all the batteries and pumps and boxes with masses of cords. I am so grateful to hear your perspective. I have decided to get a 12-15 seat high top van and pull out the seats...already insulated! Air flow, done. I don't have access to a place to spend a lot of time building, so, I am using my antiques, my bed, my lamps and finding anything I can with batteries. The one big build will be a raised floor for storage underneath. I love that idea!!! If you ever see "The Sould Garden", pop over for a facial, reiki or homemade fabric. FINALLY getting back to ME.

[@lisaventures]

Glad you found this so confirming! Sounds like you found the best solution for your situation! A raised floor does sound awesome! "Secret" storage is always a plus! If I see the name on van, I will come by! Enjoy your whole journey!

[@t.a.bernhardt7285]

Really, really helpful. I'm transitioning to a Promaster after I sell my house but I crossed the country 3xs in a Ford Econoline and I learned what I needed and what I didn't. I've been talking with "custom" van builders and they're all about me spending thousands and thousands of $$ doing slight variations of their layouts. Turns out "custom" vans are actually cookie cutter vans. Lots of money for something I don't need, don't like, don't want.

[@PulpParadise]

In a KZbin world full of complicated and expensive builds, this video is a breath of fresh air! Thank you! Little water jugs for the win! I currently have a seven gallon, a three gallon, two 1.25 gallon, and ten one gallon jugs. The only thing I take in to fill up is the one gallon jugs as everything else gets refilled from them. I top off the bigger jugs with anything leftover in the one gallons to make it more efficient. This might not make sense for everyone, but as someone whose neurosurgeon directed them not to lift more than five pounds (!!!), it works. (One gallon of water is roughly eight pounds - don't tell my doctor!) The seven gallon and the 1.25 gallon containers all have spigots and that is the ONLY "faucets" I have and I don't need more. I use diluted hand soap in pump containers to reduce the need for water when handwashing (the first ingredient in liquid soap is water but they have a thick mix so you feel like you're getting your money's worth). All the bells and whistles sure look nice, until something breaks in the middle of nowhere. I just declined watching a video earlier where the creator was essentially bragging how many months (you've seen them too: 6 months, 7 months, a year...) it took to learn the skills necessary for a build. Why?!? You need a bed (even if it's only the floor right now) which means something to stay warm and probably support your head, a place to go to the toilet and clean up (I use a spray bottle with Dr. Bronner's and water with a washcloth plus small "No 'Poo" containers for hair washing), and a way to cook. That's really it. Everything else is a bonus. Toilets in van life... I've seen so many people on KZbin talking about NOT having a toilet of any type in their rig. Maybe I'm the only one who's ever had diarrhea, had to suddenly vomit, or had to get up in the middle of the night somewhere that would be inconvenient to pee. I seriously doubt that, but perhaps learning the Scout motto to "be prepared" has scarred me for life. Get a bucket, reuse those grocery bags, and a separate container for your urine. No real expense, and you really don't need cat litter either (unless you have a cat). Bag it, wrap it well, stick in with your other trash and bag that well also. Throw it away as soon as you can. It's not really brain surgery. If you have the inclination and are flexible enough, dig a cat hole instead. Even better. Vast engineering feats are wonderful and have contributed much to the world, but living in a vehicle should be simple and straightforward. It certainly can be. Think about all of that time and money you didn't have to spend!

[@peawinn8222]

Enjoyed your post. I like simple. Gives me more free time to explore the world ❤

[@DestinationsChronicles]

Cassette toilet? Yes, I do use it for both #1 and #2 IF necessary. I have never had a problem with smells and just pop the tank into a carry all bag to get it to a bathroom to dispose of it.

[@sashanealand8315]

exactly!

[@lisaventures]

Thanks for all that positive feedback!! :) I´m a bit overwhelmed with that many comments (in a good way), haha. So it´ll just take me a little longer to answer to you all.

[@jewelssylva3738]

Save those questions for another video ☺️

[@cathyhuddle1769]

And you are helping us to understand a most simpler way to go van life. I’ve listened to you THREE times on my drive home. I’m home now and listening a 4th time to make notes on things such as the off brand refrigerator and the foot pump idea. I already had plans for toilet with a bucket and using cat litter and a horse bedding something

[@barbgreco4576]

I dream of one day hitting the road but like you said ... Am overwhelmed at..., Where do I start? Thank you for the cool video. I CAN do simple!

[@katydidnt3906]

There are a few brands of devices that make it easy for a woman to pee standing up like a man. I have used a SheWee for 3 years and love it. Urine is way grosser to deal with than poop, and urine and poop together is awful. So for #2, I use a 5 gallon bucket with a toilet seat lid, bags and kitty litter. For pee, I go in some kind of dedicated container with a screw cap and empty it every few days somewhere appropriate. Often down the drain in a manual car wash bay, which is where I also dump my grey water and refill my 5 gallon sink water jug . Don't put bleach in with the urine, though, because it creates toxic fumes. Bleaching after you empty is fine. After living in my van for over 3 years, I definitely agree with keeping it simple, cheap, and easily fixable or replaceable when something inevitably breaks or quits.

[@lisaventures]

Awesome - sounds like you figured out your perfect way dealing with the gross stuff! I owned a SheWee but never used it. Having to clean and store it prevented me. If I didn't have an ottoman to sit, I would give it another try though. :) Smart idea to use car wash bays! Thanks for that tip!

[@downtoearth1950]

Urine is totally sterile. 🙂 Poop is full of bacteria ugg!😷

[@jennyroth6583]

Honestly you can pour pee right on dirt, urine is sterile

[@susie9893]

Agreed! I have slowly come to all these conclusions (actually, I don't even think a foot pump is necessary; also dynamically a top opening fridge will ALWAYS be more energy efficient). I'm totally sold on the no-build build

[@shannonkohl68]

On the one big water tank vs. several small ones, I was watching a video years ago about an Aussie guy who was overlanding long before it got that name. Maybe Malcom Douglas, I'm not sure if it was him or the painter guy whose name I cannot remember. Anyway they said always have multiple water tanks. If your one big water tank starts to leak while you're out in the desert you could end up dead real fast. If you have multiple, less of a chance that you lose all your water at once.

[@lisaventures]

Oh wow, yeah, that's a great point, too! Thanks for bringing that up!

[@taniyareed3480]

This happened to me! I was getting in late to a campsite middle of night on a dirt road in the desert and I got a flat tire. Then when I went to open the side door my full 5 gal jug of water fell out and broke. All water gone. Could have gotten very sketchy.

[@sashanealand8315]

It was really silly what she said because obviously you can fill one big water tank by using some small ones which she actually said she did by filling her bigger tanks using smaller jugs so didnt even make sense

[@lilwolfandsabavantura]

This is real good to share and so true. I lived in one of the “harshest “ cold environments in my van (-23F average) . I have a latrine for a toilet …that I simply dispose like trash. I carry three 7 gal jugs …which I found was more than enough…I have a foot pump, but I hardly use it. I have a large thermost filled with water, which I found was the most widely used for most of my water needs. Cooking, washing dishes and in van hygiene, supplemented by sanit wipes. I have a portable battery that takes care of all my power needs. Lights and charging phone. I supplement not using its power with 3 triple AAA batt campo lights that cost me $5 buck each. They are placed strategically along the van . Portable Batt takes 2 hrs to charge from 60 %. I pay $10 for a full long hot shower and use of a gym equipment. When not, I heat up water and use a foldable bucket for a sponge bath in the van. I have a large gardening “pesticide pump, for outdoor showers. I bought at a goodwill for 3 dollars . It is more than a 1/2 gal that I use for a full sponge bath. Clothing warm and cold and kitchen utensils ( mini and foldable versions of just about anything I use in a full kitchen) , are too grand a luxury.. I have cooked all of my fav menus on my two burner propane stove. …this is all experienced in 6 months of cold weather with 3 months in artic freeze temps hunkered down in the Van living in a small town with a very small population. You can follow my journey to learn more.

[@lisaventures]

Wow, that is freezing! Thanks for sharing your setup! Really impressive!

[@Lyn-od2ln]

Please tell me what kind of heater you have. I've read every comment and no one has mentioned heat.

[@aidancauthorn9024]

that is amazing but i am very concerned about using a used pesticide pump to clean yourself.

[@Jrb2823]

Unless its new​. Not an unknown source thrifted item.

[@lesliehunter1823]

​@@Lyn-od2lni swear by my Camco Wave 3. It is SILENT and does not require electricity. Martin has a catalytic one that is similar and much cheaper but the form factor is a bit awkward.

[@katydidnt3906]

I have a similar set-up for water. I have two 5-gallon sink tanks - one non-potable for cleaning and a grey. They are fairly easy to pull out and empty/fill. I have the same 7 gallon jug as you which I take to a water store for drinking water (reverse osmosis is crystal clear, beautiful water!). Yes, heavy! But I can usually park fairly close. Up here in Canada, I pay $4 for 7 gallons. I store it under my bed and about once a week, I decant into an 84oz metal water bottle that I use day-to-day for drinking and cooking. At the water store, you can rinse the inside of the jug with ozone water which desanitizes. 3 years in, and it is as clean as the day I bought it.

[@lisaventures]

Oh that's a nice service with the rinse! Good to know that that water is as clean as it gets! And at least those 7gal jugs make a good workout!

[@joanneleiser1044]

Totally agree! Also applues if you buy a rv that not a lot works on it. I started in class c two years ago. Nothing worked except a couple lights. I chose to lighten it up, removed bunch of crap, started out with water in gallon jugs, a mini noodle maker/fry pan to heat water on a bbq with burner or teapot. Got a battery, inverter and was gifted an instant pot that heats water quick. Now i heat water a dump into a garden sprayer that I removed lame wand, put on an adapter, then another adapter to go to regular flexible shower hose and wand. Pump it up and shower anywhere. Lights, started with camping battery lanturn, then got usb rechargeable magnetic lights i can move around, eventually could afford led lights. Took off a/c, sold it used usb tent fans. Work great to move air. Used composting bags from walmart in toilet that i put into diaper genie (no smell) until i take out trash. Always use family cloths for #1, paper for #2. Takes up a lot less room, saves a ton of buying tp and easy to wash when do towels. Hung a closet rod in my shower area to hang laundry to dry. Bought all my insulated curtains at thrift stores. Got rid of a ton of clothes, keep my off season in pillow shams as pillows. Use foam flooring that fit together like a puzzle now instead of reflextix and it works to insulate windows/black out for privacy too. Roif vent pillows to insulate work awesome! A draft pillow at bottom of doors works great. Hats, gloves, heavy socks, wool blanket inside your sleeping bag and a yoga mat under you all work for warmth. Keep it real, do it on your budget and time frame, if you run out of money find a work camp job to buy time while you work to continue your build and dont worry anout the Jones just choose your level of comfort. Cause Im doing this as 66 year old widow and you can too!

[@lisaventures]

Wow, so many great ideas in these lines! Props to you! And thank you for sharing all this! Enjoy your travels! :)

[@peawinn8222]

Youve done a lot to improve. Way to go.

[@barbgreco4576]

Wow! You are doing great! I just retired. Wish I could get the courage to make the leap.

[@Avedis-G]

I appreciate your simplicity to this lifestyle and I think it’s very useful as I also purchased a bunch of things I didn’t need before I started. That said, a lot of the things you are suggesting do work and are cheaper but that isn’t where it ends. In my trailer I have every modern convenience you can think of, from a shower to a microwave to a coffee maker, etc. And I still run around full-time to keep supplies filled and keep me going on this traveling journey. Any modern conveniences you are giving up, you are going to be paying for with time somewhere else. I don’t need more responsibilities on top of the full-time lifestyle I have already chosen. I guess we all pay for convenience so it’s just a matter of how convenient do you want to be? This is just my take but I wish I would’ve seen your video before I started! Thanks for making it!

[@lisaventures]

So well said! Thanks for this comment! It definitely is a learning journey and it will never be perfect - cause that's just how this lifestyle is. Everyone has to make their little compromises in some way. Glad you enjoyed it! Enjoy your travels! :)

[@MelissaThompson432]

I'm not saying this isn't a valid point; in fact, I am currently making a list of Things I Will Not Give Up. But I find that over time, some of the things that are must haves become not so important. I'm an older woman so I'm not travelling without some kind of toilet accommodation; that's a deal breaker. But, as an example, I can get by eating food that doesn't involve cooking. I don't drink coffee. I know how to take a bath with a gallon jug of water, if need be, and get really clean. I can entertain myself if I'm in a dead zone and have no WiFi. Especially if I'm in a scenic area and/or surrounded by cool people. From what I understand, the first few months or years of van life are a process of trying and discarding things. I may feel differently if/when I ever get out there.

[@Ulbre]

All these things you mentioned all come with an extra van life bonus........MORE SPACE

[@conchscooter]

Van life hasn’t become anything. It’s what you make of it. One of the best things is you don’t have to do it any way other than how you want it to be. I love my porta potty for instance. Easy to use, dump anywhere, nothing to break, using baking soda to control smells. I live in my van and I’m wintering in dangerous 4:18 Mexico. Currently Tepic, Nayarit. My neighbors are from Germany. My van life. You live yours.

[@lisaventures]

Very well said, I agree! Glad you like your porta potty! Uh and enjoy Mexico! I'm just a ferry away right now actually, La Paz. :) Save travels!

[@sashanealand8315]

I love Mexico, let people who are naive call all of it dangerous

[@peawinn8222]

​hi, I caravanned all the way to La Paz S Baja Cali this year (from New England) & it was a very interesting trip.❤ Enjoy!

[@StukHere2]

Lol a 5 gal Paint bucket, (now a Home Depot) an 8 gal trash bag, kitty litter, and a lid! Been doing that since…gosh, I’m embarrassed to say how long!, but we had a 1969 blue and white VW van! Lol I’m getting things ready to go again now that I’m retired. Really enjoyed your video. Happy to see one that doesn’t cost as much as a small house!

[@lisaventures]

No need to be embarrassed! :) Just proves how timeless this option is, haha. Glad you enjoyed it! Awesome you get to go back on the road again! Exciting times!

[@donaldteuber8588]

The wisdom of simplicity. The luxury of efficiency.

[@rickbroderick9146]

Just saw this , what a great message to people dreaming/planning. It makes it all way less daunting and actually doable, especially for those with meagerish funds. Thank You.

[@barbgreco4576]

I'm with you on that.

[@katydidnt3906]

I heat a small amount of water in the pot I used to cook with to do dishes and rinse with a spray bottle of cold water. I'm not a fan of the cold rinse, and am considering heating up some water for that too. OR, there are small under-the-sink, on-demand 12V water heaters, and I think about doing that eventually, but mainly in order to wash my hair at the sink and do a sponge bath when boondocking. Like you said, though, it isn't a simple, one-component thing! I have a Whale foot pump which is going strong after 3 years, and I love how frugal it is with the water.

[@StarCaledonia]

To reduce grey water and washing up, paper or tin foil inserts for plates means the plate stays clean. Rolls of oven paper can even be used as plates if you have tray to put it on

[@johncarter9054]

Minimizing has many advantages but in the wintertime a $i00.00 diesel heater from Amazon is the way to go. Ive used one for four years Sooo much better than a buddy heater, and far far safer : )

[@Runingncircles]

We too use a potty bucket with the bag and the pine/litter for poop system. And for a tinkle I use a deep wide mouth Tupperware container that just sits inside the same buckle. When dump I spray with Vinegar. For my heavy or longer Warter haul I have a portal foldup Luggage rack with wheels that I just unfold then strap on my larger water containers when need. I use a Hanging 7gal camp shower that heats itself in warm weather. CHEAP @ WALMART. I have just pined up a blanket between doors for privacy when feeling shy. But some ppl has that popup shower room. SUPER cheap btw. I just don't have it. And Bird bath it in the cold weather. I will though heat up a little water to add to my bird bath water. I do like using a solar light to offset any of other energy use from van/rv . Thanks for sharing Can't wait for more of your sharing's. Be Blessed...

[@geebee1983]

Hey can you do a video on how you do things?

[@Runingncircles]

@@geebee1983 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i33Ng2aha65jl5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipOzpXWCr62tj7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJWtp6FmlL1jqck kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4fPgJ-HoL2onac kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIrKmJmmishsg7s I am not a sponsor of any of these. Iam just showing these for they are some of the close's idea that I may use. SO please YOU do YOU and take these and make them your idea and fit your life.

[@lisaventures]

Wow, that all sounds like great solutions! Thanks for sharing! The foldup luggage rack is a great idea! Take care! :)

[@michaelhayes7471]

Get you a hand trucks at harbor freight for carrying water tanks works great

[@literaryvan6143]

Some people have urology issues and need to use the bathroom frequently so a toilet of any sort is a must!

[@lisaventures]

That's true - no point in being uncomfortable when you have some special needs.

[@jane364]

Your the best; I’m grateful you put this video together it answers basic questions for a older beginner.

[@lisaventures]

Aww, glad it was helpful to you!

[@Christopher_Cooley]

Thank you so much for making this video! I'm in the planning stages and it seems like every video has complicated builds and electrical systems! I want to keep it as simple as possible and you helped a lot!

[@angietorok8389]

This was very helpful. I'm also a backpacker and I see the same thing in that community. People become enamored with equipment and gadgets, which causes them to lose sight of the original pull toward simplicity. I've been susceptible myself but am really trying to avoid these mistakes in setting up our van. Thamks for the tips.

[@sherkhead9638]

I agree all the showers and cookstoves cabinets and stuff I’m not trying to make my life more complicated by trying to make my life simpler

[@morepi5709]

My wife and I own a 2005 Sprinter. We've owned it for 15+ years. 200,000 miles. Like you no bathroom. We have a 1 gallon mayo jar with a handle and 5-inch opening for pee. My Wife tells everyone, "not a single accident in 15 years." We have Lugable Loo. Combined with biodegradable bags. Perfect solution. We are DC only. No running water. Running water is wasted water. We carry almost 10 gallons of water with us. 2 five liter jugs, two lter jugs, two one liter jugs. Dishwashing in small plastic tubs. Diesel heater. Gihugic 12v refrig. Queen size bad. Home build. For us, this is luxury..

[@eloyanzaldua7433]

I agree to keep it simple. So much less to worry about. Take care.

[@jonnie3112]

Great video, great common sense ideas. I don’t live in a van when I travel but I make do in a small car traveling solo all over the US on long vacations. I have been thinking about getting a van or a pickup truck and camper to live on the road but the cost for these range between $50,000 and $100,000 if buying new or $10,000 to $20,000 or so used. Your video was a real wake up call that those things are nice but way too expensive and time consuming to buy, build, and maintain. It was like you were giving a reality check on all these unnecessary things. Very liberating and helpful video. THANK YOU. 😅 Some things I have that I find very helpful are a couple of portable batteries (Jackery and Bluetti) and a solar panel and inverter to charge the batteries. For waste number 2 I have the five gallon bucket and heavy duty waste bags with a toilet seat built for the bucket, more comfortable and stable. For waste number 1 a large funnel makes the aim less of a problem. I tried the electric refrigerator but turned it into just an ice chest good for a couple of days allowing me to eat better with greater variety.

[@lisaventures]

Glad you found some good insights in this video! :) Reality check, successful, haha. Sounds like you have some great solutions set up for you! All the best on your travels!

[@jeremyw9204]

Excellent video, nice to hear you can actually keep it simple and cheaper, which is a big reason for campervans in the first place

[@Sylviascampingandadventures]

I agree totally! Building my van out the simplest way possible.

[@MichaelWilliams-ro9bm]

Translation: cheap as possible.

[@sonyacurti]

Bucket works perfectly. I use one all the time. Easy to clean & just throw a cover over it. Easy peasy! Great video ❤

[@mpf44]

Great video. I am looking into this very expensive subject. Your best tip for me was the non-electrical water pump.

[@GushOnline]

Just fyi, you can get a battery operated faucet for cheap. It’s less involved than hooking up a water pump to normal plumbing. It just uses tubing that goes into your water jug. I just bought one for $20. There was a $13 version of the same one but I bought one that included a base that I liked better. I’m buying a kitchenette from IKEA for $148 that includes the sink and counter and my sink/kitchen build is done.

[@karenarden3366]

Thank you for sharing your ideas. I feel the same way about my new van. I’m building just for the weekend getaway’s. So I’ve been focusing on bed and food prep station and storage. And plane to bring a cooler, water containers, grill and I have a little foot pump trash can for my business!! Figured like you simple is better 👍

[@MichaelWilliams-ro9bm]

I’ll think of you at 3 am when you gotta go. Peeing it a bucket or bottle sucks. But hey you’re young. I’d like to see you in a few years without all those luxuries. Ha ha ha.. I love young people, they know everything! I empty ours about once every ten days. No big deal. No smell and I can use it for both doodies at 3 am summer and winter! Especially when it's 15 degrees out. When you get older you'll know what I mean about being older! lol. So much fun to listen to our younger people.

[@sonyacurti]

It's really no different than getting up at 3am and peeing on a toliet. It's not horrible and way closer than your toliet.

[@lukepocock]

I love young people, they know everything! - i think this is more for people on a budget rather than "young people"

[@rndmparker561]

I'm almost 60, and these are exactly the ideas I'm looking for. If these things are too difficult for you, maybe consider why. Age doesn't mean unhealthy. Lifestyle contributes to that. She is a perfect candidate to be interviewed by Bob Wells.

[@serendipidy]

I am over 50 and I pee in a bucket. It's fast to clean. Rinse it with hot water and that's it.

[@MichaelWilliams-ro9bm]

@@serendipidy at 3 am, not sure who will be rinsing a bucket ( hard to imagine) but you all convince yourself that urine won’t smell ( till you empty it) the difference peeing in a toilet vs home toilet is you flush. Not at 3 in a bucket especially when it gets cold.

[@Impossible2nd]

Thank you! We're planing our build, and it's been so difficult to sort through reviews of "use this, install this, you're going to want this luxury feature," etc. It's all so expensive and complicated, and frankly it's been delaying our leap to being on the road. This was a refreshing reminder that you *can* opt for simplicity, and it can work just fine (and hey, if we want to "upgrade" to more "luxury" features later, that's an option).

[@Jonty_and_Chantal]

I wholeheartedly agree with the list. We often watch van builds online and get envious of their set-up, but then we go back to our little 13' trailer, we love its simplicity. You're right about the toilet, we have a porta-potty, and only use it at night for #1. The rest of the day, we use our home-made composting toilet that we put in the shower tent.

[@lisaventures]

Right, it doesn't have to be fancy to be nice and functional! Great you got a compostable toilet outside!

[@hop3106]

I completely agree with you. Even if I have enough money to splurge on fancy plumbing and electricity, I still hate the idea of the weight those things add on to the van. It screams fuel inefficient and still won't give you the actual experience of a real house. So I'd rather go for the simple solutions, making my van easier to organize and still functional. However, for toilets I prefer the composting toilets that can connect liquid to the gray tank, then there's no need to empty the pee bottle anymore, only need to occasionally dump out compost poop.

[@michaeljuers574]

We use a five gallon fresh water and a five gallon grey water tank under the sink. We have a small submersible pump that fits in the fresh water tank that provides pressure when the faucet is opened. Works great and no wasted water.

[@lisaventures]

Sounds great! I've only heard good things about the submersible pumps! :)

[@basantidevi2305]

I’ve done 3 years with cold water, no pump, no toilet and I’m rebuilding to add a toilet, hot water, electric pump n accumulator and I can’t wait. Already have a frig and have used AC power for medical equipment I need. A must have. But now I’m upgrading to 300ah and 2500 inverter that only goes on when I need the water pump or AC power. Also making my own toilet from wood and from scratch. No more roughing it.

[@basantidevi2305]

An I’m doing it all myself.

[@brandysbudgetadventures5170]

I use my moms old bedside commode 😂😂😂😂 PRICELESS

[@deadpoet50]

Thanks for the video. Very useful and good advice. I’m definitely a proponent of making things simple 👍🏼

[@lisaventures]

Glad you found it helpful! :)

[@therealtashiro]

All very true! Start simple and see what you might want to improve (luxurize) down the road.

[@gailkellum832]

Thank you so much! I've been struggling trying to figure out all this electrical for solar and power, etc. And, I ruled out the shower and expensive compost toilet, and AC. So your video has reminded me and brought up some very good points to keep it simple. And, for me the important part is getting on the road. Loved the simplicity of your video and backdrop.

[@lisaventures]

So glad it confirmed your choices there! Very true - getting on the road and starting this journey is crucial! Hope you're able to start it soon! :)

[@43pups43]

We have a simple toilet which looks like a normal one, even has a toilet paper holder, and a proper seat to sit on, but inside is just a simple bucket! I love it. As you say, it's easiest to clean. We usually use that toilet just for the weekends, so not for a long period. So before going to sleep I put some water in it that it won't smell too much the other morning and we all use it over night (2 adults, 2 kids) and I just clean it the other morning and no chemicals needed. If you just need a peeing-place for the night, I recommend the bucket as well!

[@giuliom8520]

I've heard it's nice to have seperate water tanks, such as one for washing, one for drinking, etc. Little water tanks, like you said sounds like the best and easiest way to fill and maintain water supplies.

[@lisaventures]

True, that works well for lots of people! We still make sure to only have "good" water in all our tanks though - cause we drink a lot of water. It's nice to have extra shower water in our solar shower on top of the van though.

[@thesagestrategist]

Thank you for this! I did a two months solo cross country trip in my ford escape. No build and minimal fancy things and I was super comfy. I do dream of a simple van build like you describe!

[@smokey6885]

That’s THE beauty OF doing a van conversion or cargo trailer conversion, you build it to your preferences and if you don’t like it, you can change it, not easy done in a factory RV. I spent roughly 6 months in the year and either in my toy hauler class a or in my 7 x 14 cargo trailer camper, the other six months I spend making minor adjustments to one or both of my camping vehicles, that’s a fun of doing it, I always looking for a new ideas . See you down the road.😮

[@randall6890]

Hi Lisa, I’m getting ready to build a van. Thanks for your help!

[@franksierow5792]

Easy/ier water "carrying": if ground is reasonably flat & smooth, you could get some wheels for moving water, such as a 2-wheeled trolley. Also, I have seen a cylindrical water container that you can attach a handle to and drag so that it rolls along.

[@rosaglem1905]

I don't have a van, but, what I used for #1 was a medium sized picture which worked great. I am so thankful for videos like this and others I have watch on those commodes as I almost wasted money, but, as much as dislike even dealing with thinking about poop in a regular toilet and cleaning, I certainly don't want to deal with carry and dumping a messy container of poop. As they say, keep it simple stupid. LOL! So much crap I used think would have been a need to do van life isn't so.

[@jasoncochran853]

LOL very cute little video on hard to talk about things. Great editing you spent some time on it. Thanks for sharing!

[@lisaventures]

Thanks for your appreciation! :)

[@rowdysgirlalways]

In emergencies, I have used a five gallon bucket, garbage bag and kitty litter, for both pee and poop. I just toss it out in the garbage like I do with the cat's poop. If you want a shower, put a jug of water on top of your van to heat in the sun and the roof. Attach a length of hose to the jug, turn it on it's side and use a garden sprayer with a trigger to control the flow. You will have to put a vent in the jug for the water flow. This is just off the top of my head. One vanner attached one of those big PVC pipes to the top of his van, alongside the rack. He'd put a blank plug on the front end and a plug with a spigot on the rear end, and had installed a vent at the front end (air behind water is, I believe, the rule) and used a hose and garden sprayer. If you don't want to stand on the ground when you shower, then a teak wood mat would work. And a shower curtain across the open back doors for privacy. I do love my showers. I would prefer a Jackery or Anker power bank with moveable solar panels and small appliances for my cooking, but that's because I don't like the idea of propane or butane in a small, enclosed space. I have a little alcohol stove for power outages, but even that makes me nervous. However, since I moved from Michigan to southern Ohio, there haven't been any power outages. Just sayin'. See, I've been through a lot of ice storms and blizzards and blackouts of assorted durations, the northeast blackout of, I believe, 2003 left us in the dark for 5 days. No water, no power. I was running back and forth between my place and my folks house. The best day was when they got their power back. Still no water and we'd be boiling water for a week when we got it back. However, we were hit by a gullywasher of a thunderstorm and the water was sliding off of their porch roof. We filled buckets like crazy to pour down the toilets to flush them. Gravity is a wonderful thing. And even living in suburban Detroit can be an exercise in survival! You ever seen two karens fighting over the last gallon of water in the store? I do wish I had thought to record it, if our phones could do that back in 2003... This is a really good video and your insights are excellent! I sometimes think about vanning, I could fix up my Nissan Rogue. But my full-sized mattress is 10" thick and my lazyboy chair won't fit...

[@jimbokiwi9322]

I agree with most of thoughts. You don't need a fancy pressurized water filter system. You can get a submersible pump and hose for under £30 and it is as quiet as a foot pump. They don't use much power at all.

[@MrOlaboss]

Agree, whale gusher foot pump, smallish water containers, heat water on wood stove or propane stove. We bought a small fridge drawer just to be compliant for registering as a camper van. Simplicity is kind of nice.

[@jeremynkelley]

SUCH good advise!!! There’s no wrong way to set things up but this simple approach (which is what vanlife was all about when it started) has somehow gotten forgot about. I lived very comfortably for 3 years in my van with a basic uncomplicated system.

[@lisaventures]

That's awesome! It's fascinating how fast we can get used to other circumstances, and still be comfortable. :)

[@gregroth4696]

Take em or leave em, I love your ideas and perspective. I’d probably do a few things different, but great simplify ideas! Thank you so much. Good luck with your channel and adventures!

[@lisaventures]

Thank YOU so much!! All the best to you, too! :)

[@JeanIsaac-jk5fp]

I agree wholeheartedly. With a lot of these things, there's more to fix and worry about. I'm retired, so the amount of money I have, I have to do my best to keep as much of it as I can because my earning power is much more limited now. I can still work casually here and there but I'm limited in that as well because of health issues so I plan on keeping my build as minimal as possible and if I find that there are things I just can't live without, I will take care of that then.

[@lifemyway200]

Love this video!! I'm hoping to get a minivan in the next couple years to travel and people in my life keep telling me all the fancy things and buildout I will *need* and I'm like...no. I don't.

[@lisaventures]

Yaay, great plan! Only get what you really need. And thank you!

[@fabiennedopierala3694]

I totally agree on the water pump point. Plus even if you wanna have a shower you don’t have to have a hot water system. It’s enough to boil some water in your sink and place a portable shower system in there. We will have it this way. Plus you have a nice vibe! I like your style. ❤

[@Natalia_85]

OMG! Finally someone who has my same approach (and limited budget concerns!) I have not build my van yet but I definitely know that I will have a tiny bucket for number 2 and a bottle for number 1 and no plumbing whatsover. Basically because I would not know how to do it but also becaus I can do without. Also, If you have the floorspace you can use a kids inflatable pool and a jug to get your body clean. I have yet to figure out hair washing. I might use a the portable shower thingies and a bucket. It does not have to be a kids pool it can be any container. I saw a build were they made a waterproof square on the floor with a drain. Used for storage otherwise and covered when not used

[@thebigmann81]

A popup changing tent is great for privacy for showering. I use with water bucket and tabo or ladle. Water bucket heaters are good to get warm water but it comes only in Ac 110-120 that I am aware of. I also have a lid attachment that is also a seat so I can use even when not showering for 5 gal buckets. So no buying extra seats the buckets are my seats

[@lisaventures]

Sounds great! And yes to the pop up shower tents! Good to have!

[@candybrown3785]

You can also use a 5 gallon bucket 🪣 for a shower 🚿. USB portable shower head. Also heat up water on propane stove for shower and dishes. Agree on everything. Less things to go wrong. Less need for power. Save money 🤑. Fancier and luxury isn't always better. Less is MORE 👏👏👏

[@lisaventures]

Yes, sooo many options! :)

[@bt1163]

Thats so true, whats the point of going camping and be one with nature when you bring your whole house with you 😅 You are right the simplistic ideas are better !!

[@wilsonwombat3456]

Get a auto parts washing bucket with a screw lid… much more comfy on the bum and lid seals in any smell. Upright fridges lose a lot of cold every time the door is opened…dual zone chest fridge is the way to go. Solar bag shower and aquatic rec centres keeps me clean. 10 litre cube water containers pack well and stack if needed.

[@lisaventures]

Yep yep, agree on all of that! :) Need to check out that bucket though, ours makes for an intense ring on our butts haha

[@violettownmicroenterprises1528]

wonderful example of the KISS principal in action !! (keep It Simple, Stupid). I lived 3 yrs in a VW caddy. With a single bed, a bucket~ 3 actually~ for pee, for dishes & for laundry. Cold water summer and winter from a hose. An open fire in winter for cooking and heating water for hot water bottles. And 2x Aldi $10. solar lights to read by at night and the car battery for abc radio national ❤❤ and charging my phone and tablet with an occasional top up when plugged in to Community House. Yes, sometimes it was rough. Hot showers were the hardest to do without every night but there often were so many super-generous people who would invite me for hot showers, hot food, red wine, music & and laughter; (Thank you Helen Keirghery, ~ wherever you went to when you passed, bless you❤❤) Even though it wasn't always easy, it was always good. Every night I was keenly aware of the sky, the stars, our universe... the night birds and the sounds of possums, owls, kangaroos and things I honestly could not identify. Life was really simple~ and simple is uncomplicated, and good. It can be cheap and, best of all -it was real. I felt alive, alert, awake and joyous.... Only other people fuelled my depression and anxiety. So ya, dont waste your money if you think you want to try it, by all means, give it a go.

[@buyzen]

I appreciate this video! The timing hahaha. I'm in the midst of a bus build and have been simplifying my build. Just decided to axe the 32gallon wheel water tank and have x4 7 gallon water jugs for many the reasons you listed (cost, complicated, etc.) I have a shower but a Joolca portable battery 12v pump works great! I'd highly recommend most things being portable in your build such as portable cooking stove, water jugs, power station (can easily remove in the cold or for when needed away from vehicle) etc, etc. I think many of us, myself included got influenced by all the fancy builds turning their tiny home on wheels similar to a house and that's fine but honestly a big draw for me to van/bus life is working with the elements of nature and being in flow of my consumption use versus the convenience of a standard house where things are TOO comfortable (though great for short times). Getting back to what van life originally was about, simplifying your build and your life is the way. Making you more connected to your home and nature. Everyone's gotta find that balance for themselves.

[@dylanmcclintock4178]

On toilets: I had a DIY dry toilet which worked great and which I recently replaced with a Trelino which is MUCH less expensive than most and is quite minimalist. Very similar to my DIY but with larger collection containers which extends time for emptying substantially.

[@dianeschmiane]

I love it, great info delivered with a quirky twist! I'm with you, the simpler the better. Less to break, freeze, clean, maintain and suck power. Thinking about a van, so this is super helpful... ❤

[@lisaventures]

Thanks! And glad you found it helpful! Good luck on your van purchase/build/journey!

[@katydidnt3906]

I also just have a little 300W inverter that I use to charge my laptop, mainly. The only thing I think about wanting to have a 1000W inverter for is a hair dryer. But that is rare, since I don't have a shower anyway!

[@lisaventures]

True, there are those rare events where more would be nicer. I wanted to borrow someones egg cooker the other day and somehow could not power it with my battery/inverter haha, but oh well.

[@thetravelingkittens1393]

I bought a 2008 Chrysler minivan and doing a very minimal conversion. I had a van that cost a fortune and a 26 ft RV. All a pain. I’m for simplicity. My van didn’t have a bathroom and I did put in a compost toilet in the RV which was better than constantly dumping. Although the urine part filled up fast.

[@Grindstaff09]

Yes to all of that. One must venture out and sleep to see what you don't need, or watch this video. Another is you don't need a lot of power. Cept if you found an airconditioning solution that is actually truly workable and cooling to your satisfaction.

[@nmr6988]

I have a tall 5 gallon bucket toilet and I use P jars. I never mix the two, and it works absolutely great.

[@elizabethfleck6536]

I love the bucket option.✔️ Ottoman✔️. I need to learn about electricity. ✔️ Thank you for the fridge info. ✔️ Truckers have used truck stops for many, many, many years!! ✔️ Fancy is not necessary. Amen! ✔️ I really needed this video today! I am 58 and plan to move onto RV life soon. My nightmare is my brain...ADHD for years and it got burned out with meds and stress. I have an RV. I live in MN😢. What you talked about takes a ton of worries off my mind. Simplicity over fancy. Will like and will follow!!

[@cfconant]

i bought a little inverter too but it caught fire so beware. Luckily I was there when it happened. Also I dont think I'll even need a foot pump. Gravity works fine.

[@lisaventures]

Oh no, that's scary! We never use it when we're not around, but good to be aware! Thanks!

[@heavensabound]

Loved this video! Thank you for putting yourself out there for our benefit. I just read the comments to get even more tips. Those who gave you unconstuctive criticisms are 100% jealous of your beauty, inner light &/or savvy wit. Hands down, just sayin 😏

[@ordo2dan]

Agreed, I’ve always wondered why people don’t just utilize a 5 gallon bucket toilet, seat cover, and trash bag. As long as you have baby wipes, and a way to clean your hands, it’s just as good as a toilet at home. I will definitely never use a porta potty again in my life :-) with that set up anyways. as well, just great information in general. When I was starting my van build, I told myself go as cheap as possible and see what else you might need. So far I haven’t needed anything extra :-) except for a taller roof! That would be nice :-) still not a need I guess. Thanks for sharing

[@lisaventures]

Glad you can sympathize with this simplicity! :) The taller roof might be a bit harder to implement quickly, but great to hear everything else works well for you!

[@LadyBugout]

Love it!!!

[@lisaventures]

Oh thanks for tuning in!! :) Love your videos, too!

[@angietorok8389]

Another little tip. I stopped watching all the "over the top" van builds and stick mainly to "no build" solutions. Ive gotten some much simpler and more cost effective ideas. For instance, a garden sprayer with the nozzle removed makes a wonderful shower. Want a hot shower? Heat the water first.

[@davidrhp847]

I totally agree that simpler is better. The portable fridges open on top so as not to let the cold out. (more efficient) Great video, right on point. Thanks.

[@lisaventures]

Thank you! True, they are more efficient, but however it always takes longer to put stuff in/out with these, so not sure if that balances out the efficiency?

[@lacastella]

Great idea about the pedal instead of the water pump. Thanks for your thoughts. I guess in the end everybody will chooe or add what they need in their vans but it is good to know that there are cheapest options. Thanks again. Hi from Barcelona 😊

[@simplylifeau]

Love your mindset and approach to the set up, I’d love to see the same simplicity applied in tiny / offgrid homes. thanks for taking the time to make this and share your experience….👍

[@mayam6678]

I am building out mine right now, just as simple as yours. It works for me!

[@lisaventures]

That's great! :) Good luck on your build!

[@MelissaThompson432]

*When hauling water, just remember a gallon of water weighs 8 pounds. I have verified this. A full 7 gallon tank weighs over 50 pounds. When it comes to water, 1 pint = 1 pound.

[@lisaventures]

Good to keep that in mind! A heavy lifting workout!

[@ManWander]

you are absolutely right on! less is more!

[@RosieWilliamOlivia]

I had the same tiny inverter, it lasted for almost 5 years and got used almost daily by at least one of us. That was a great buy!

[@lisaventures]

It's awesome! No regrets!

[@slowalaskan]

I agree. Not in van yet, in subaru forester. But learning that simple is better.

[@lisaventures]

That counts - it's a great start!

[@donquixote3927]

Really nice delivery and content.

[@susananderson9619]

I also put camping/ RV toilet granular stuff ,it really kept smell down . I was a truck driver and couldn't throw my pee away every time.I emptied it once at night ,usually

[@Linda-ki5xh]

Thanks re water container size! I'm looking right now for containers. Like bucket and ottoman idea. I still have an ottoman, could fit a seat in too, so awesome! The thought of spending so much for systems is daunting. Then you have to get your head around it all. I once saw a foldable solar panel, plugged into a jackaroo, plugged into laptop outdoors..

[@lisaventures]

Sounds great! I hope you find a good solution! And yes, there's lots of portable solar panels around these days! Definitely worth checking out! :)

[@katydidnt3906]

I love your style and am now a new subscriber. Birds of a feather...! 😁

[@lisaventures]

Thanks so much! For sharing your solutions and subscribing! Welcome! :)

[@jeremytorgersen]

Agree, keep it simple!!

[@lynnemarie7885]

hey super tips! I am always amazed by how many van tour videos showing the super amazing shower they built (usually truly gorgeous) when they then casually mention that they never actually use it 😂 That shower is just super expensive storage that was a ton of work hahahah. Also shocking to me: the loudness of those water pumps. I too am a fan of the foot pump or USB faucet. Loved your video and your simple set up!

[@lisaventures]

Haha, glad you agree! :) And yes, met lots of people who barely ever use their showers, too..

[@frederick6008]

Been a long time. Nice to see you again.

[@lisaventures]

Hi! Was it a long time?

[@Kimberly-ul1ph]

Thank you😁 Expense is a big factor in my van "build". Size is another.... as is weight. Space is incredibly limited in my van. Many things need to be moved around at times to get to or utilize other things. Items that are big or heavy tend to add to frustration instead of convenience. The added weight of items in the build also reduces fuel economy.....💲💲💲 Light, fluffy, easy to move..... Except for my tools!!! 😂

[@lisaventures]

Haha, very true! I like "fluffy"! But you gotta have the tools! Can save you lots of money, too. :)