Vance & Hines FP3 Fuelpak Autotune Beginning To End On My Harley Davidson

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Motorcycling with Carl

Motorcycling with Carl

4 жыл бұрын

This video is about running a Full Autotune with the Vance & Hines FP3 Fuelpack on my 2019 Harley Davidson Iron 1200 Sportster. I hope you enjoy the video and it helps you out. Please check my channel out and Subscribe!!!!! and like my videos!!!!

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@dominickd7185
@dominickd7185 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you making this video. I’ve had the FP3 for almost a year and haven’t used auto tune out of fear. This video took those fears away and once the weather is good I’m going for it. Thanks for the good video.
@bakedbeanz4510
@bakedbeanz4510 3 жыл бұрын
So what did ya use? Pre tuned maps?
@floridapatriot9776
@floridapatriot9776 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on the FP3 auto tune Carl. I couldn't wait I just ordered my stage 1. Cobra 909 Speedster exhaust, Arlen Ness Big Sucker air cleaner, and Vance & Hines FP3 tuner. I can't wait to install it all. I also adjusted my suspension for my weight and it makes a huge difference. Thanks for the video. 👍
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
No problem Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
@wickedc6255
@wickedc6255 4 жыл бұрын
Manifold absolute pressure. Works like a mass airflow sensor on a car. It's how it measures the amount of air coming into the engine
@edwardwatkins4590
@edwardwatkins4590 Ай бұрын
I’ve been riding for 2 years but didn’t have the nerve to try the Autotune until now. I will certainly be doing it tomorrow. Thank you.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Ай бұрын
Definitely its not bad when you know ahead your bike not run right while doing it. Thanks for watching and commenting
@Themachinegun
@Themachinegun 2 жыл бұрын
Right on Carl! I just bought my pipes and I was reviewing all the info about this FP3 Great video.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@woongtv-naturehealing273
@woongtv-naturehealing273 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a great video. Your bike is so beautiful. I love the sound of motorcycle exhaustion. I'm glad and honored to be your best channel friend. Have a nice Monday. 👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙👌
@n2daair23
@n2daair23 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t you hate that little fraction of a second when you hit the start button and it kinda sounds like it ain’t gonna fire! Lol, gets me every time.
@blueyedevil519
@blueyedevil519 2 жыл бұрын
You get that too? I thought it was just me, lol. Oh god I hated that sound every time from the day I bought my 2009 XL1200C! Now my battery is shot ad I have been researching for the best battery for me! I don't know if I want or should go with the same old 200 ca heavy battery or the lithium ion battery. I can't decide because I am disabled with my back so I can't ride long without taking a break. The 200 CCA original batteries is not enough cranking amps imo and if I have to stop a lot that's not good on the lithium ion battery. Got any advice?
@JradKbad
@JradKbad 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I am not the only one.
@PotatoeJoe69
@PotatoeJoe69 Жыл бұрын
Normal on most Harleys. They have a very long stroke, and so the starter really has to work like hell to get the engine cranking past that first compression stroke.
@Hihowareyou295
@Hihowareyou295 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchase one today..thanks for feed back
@alwayslookin73
@alwayslookin73 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I’m going to order mine on Monday, thanks for sharing
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I love mine and leave it attached all the time!
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
Its so much fun !!!!!
@chrisaskme811
@chrisaskme811 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@mannycordoviz5310
@mannycordoviz5310 3 жыл бұрын
One of the. Enter videos on autotune thanks going to try it on mine this weekend
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it goes smooth!! Let me know.
@BoDean52
@BoDean52 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, installing mine tomorrow. Ride safe
@Digitalevo2011
@Digitalevo2011 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Put stage 1 on my Freewheeler and flashed proper map from my FP3 and ran great with only one kind of flat spot in first gear. So I did an autotune and just like yours it ran like crap. So I stopped the autotune and went back to the flashed map. After watching your video I am going to do the autotune again now that I know what happened was normal.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and it seemed to run even worse towards the end of my autotune session
@bocapone556
@bocapone556 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Calf Pasture... I knew those places looked familiar... also in Norwalk.. safe riding!!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I love that beach.
@EasyRiderGreg
@EasyRiderGreg 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I had an '06 Dyna I put a power commander on and no maps that I got from them worked well at all. I spent the money and had it dyno tuned to get it to run right. Hope yours works out well. Ride safe and stay healthy.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Easy Rider so far so good!
@Aircooled865
@Aircooled865 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting mate....might do it with mine
@tasatasat
@tasatasat 2 жыл бұрын
This video is what inspired me to try out the fp3. Been having a stutter at low mph and rough running. Got this and tried the auto tune today. Helped a lot but I feel I need to run it longer. I only rode around for about an hour.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Also there is a way to send it to vance and hines and they will fine tune your tune at no charge. I know Tim Finning did it. Maybe ask him on his channel about how.
@brandonfolk6442
@brandonfolk6442 2 жыл бұрын
Great video . I’m using auto tune now on my street glide special, doing a few rides w it before I hit finish
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy hopefully your new map runs great!! Thanks for watching
@pretrip67
@pretrip67 2 жыл бұрын
Not big on stop signs. Thanks for the video. Will be getting a tuner for my street glide real soon.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
I try not to put my feet down unless I have to. But I almost come to a stop lol. I asked a cop and he said they usually won’t bust your balls if you almost stop and don’t put your feet down. Thanks for watching and commenting
@Poppa_82
@Poppa_82 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the FP3...this was a good tutorial thanks
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching I love my FP3 I just did a little review video and talked about the Fuelpak. Just remember if you do an autotune your bike will run terrible during it.
@Poppa_82
@Poppa_82 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl But it will run better after the autotune right...
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poppa_82 I do think my bike ran better after the autotune. But I would have been happy just running the stock map also. One of the biggest things it fixed for me was the decel pop
@gmoney1592
@gmoney1592 4 жыл бұрын
I have been back and forth about getting an FP3. This video was helpful actually watching you Auto Tune your Bike. I have heard good and bad about it. It supposed to be very user friendly and helpful in diagnostics. Let us know long term how your bike is running with the Auto Tune. Your videos are informative and helpful. Thanks ride safe
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Gary C. So far it’s been running perfect since the tune. Just remember if you are still in warranty it could void it
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Gary C. Definitely very user Friendly and easy to use. I would never touch any of the advanced settings though. I will leave that to the pros
@gmoney1592
@gmoney1592 4 жыл бұрын
Motorcycling with Carl Thanks for the info
@randydixon5621
@randydixon5621 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 17 softail. Ran it on auto tune. Ran sorta crappy in auto tune. But it's supposed to. Once all of your blocks on auto tune are filled, you flash the new map you made, then it runs great!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Yes alot of people tend to panic and stop because they think something is wrong. Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it.
@rkjer
@rkjer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Carl quick question. So say I go out for the first part of my ride to map the lower RPMs with just city cruising. Then I upload that learned data and continue to go onto the highway to get the higher RPM learned. When I stop to finalize with the higher RPM Learning There will obviously be a few blocks in the lower RPM relearned. So my question is if I plug-in the learn data once I get the lower RPMs green and then I go to the highway for a second session to get the higher RPMs And I pop a couple of oranges in the lower RPMs is that going to save the orange over the green that’s already learned when I finalize? I guess that’s kind of confusing but from the videos I’ve watched people do this in multiple sessions over one day. So they will continuously plug-in the learns data as they go. However once you plug in what you’ve learned it resets the learning map. I would hate to do 2 to 3 uploads before I finalize and then have it save in orange box over something where I already had the green previously. I hope that makes sense LOL
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure but if I had to guess I would think it takes the best of all sessions and uses those readings
@rkjer
@rkjer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the follow up
@spencerclarke8883
@spencerclarke8883 2 жыл бұрын
really informative video,i have a 1200 nightster and have problems around 35-45 mph with the engine searching, when the bike gets back from the shop (major service, new rear master cylinder and a look at the running side of things, maybe mechanic will have sorted it?) if not i will try the auto tune thanks
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching good luck with it.
@gavholz5038
@gavholz5038 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!! Love my fp3
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
I had so much fun today. I wish I knew I had 3 RPM Screens to help me dail it in on the auto tune. But this is where the fun began doing 45 rpm to 55 rpm zoom zoom zoom. Lol . It was a blast and the best thing I didn't get a speeding ticket. So now I just have to do the 1st screen of the RPM THE 2ND Screen is almost complete then I only have the the last rpm screen then finished send it to Vance and Hins to let them dail it in for the final touch then I play with the throttle activity Aggresive throttle here I come. I made a nice square block.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Rahuba sounds like you took yours alot further than me I didn’t have to send it to vance and hines. My sportster is not drive by wire so I don’t have the throttle settings.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you did an advanced setup I only did the quick setup
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
Really it was just in I just did a quick set up myself. When your mapping slide the map to the left then the rpm tach appears you will see a shaded green area slide that to the left the shaded green is higher on the tach slide it again then you are in the 4 to 5 on the tach. Then you call V&H give them you vin number they will review it then they will map it send it back to you then the FINISHED PRODUCT
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think you have to send it out but since I paid 400 + I have to just have to send it to them. Might as well you paid for it ......
@IamSrria
@IamSrria Жыл бұрын
great help 👍love from CHINA x48 rider
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and letting me know know it helped. Have fun and enjoy the ride.
@deftonesfan805
@deftonesfan805 2 жыл бұрын
Carl what type of phone mount do you have? Looks to be very sturdy
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Rokform I have an install video on it. It is awesome solid as can be I do not worry at all. Look around for discount codes I believe I mentioned one or it is in the video description just don’t know if it’s still valid. But plenty codes out there
@bookieyadigg
@bookieyadigg 2 жыл бұрын
Nice real review buddy
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and remember after you do an autotune if you contact vance and hines they will make some fine tuning to the map for you.
@timfinning
@timfinning 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Carl, what sort of mileage were you getting with the downloadable map before the auto tune? I'm getting around 100km out of mine then the fuel light comes on but it still has around 4 litres in the tank.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Finning if I am converting correctly thats only around 62 miles. I was getting about 87 to 90 miles out of mine before the fuel light comes on and that leaves me about the same as you about 1 gallon. Do you have the same size tank? Mine is a little over 3 gallons. I am not sure how its doing after autotune I forgot to reset my gauge after fill up. Also I noticed with mine if you do a bunch of short trips starting really cold often on a tank my milage seemed to be lower. Also I make sure my tank is as full as I can get it when I fill it.
@timfinning
@timfinning 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh same size tank 3.3 gallons, I'm still in the break in period I know it Will get better as it beds in but seems a bit thirsty at the moment
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
If I converted correctly that seems very low. I would fill up and run another tank to confirm mileage
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Finning I do like that color also!!!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Finning also make sure to adjust your shocks!! What a difference it made for me im around 205 and have mine set to 6 dots.
@BDiaz1000
@BDiaz1000 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2000 road king that already had some Screamin Eagle upgrades. The problem is I’m not sure exactly what the previous owner did to it. Like what, if any cam or even what size jugs. I think it’s a 95Ci but not 100% sure. Will this give me an idea as to what I’ve got? Or Do I have to know the information first?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I think it only asks for exhaust and if you have a high flow air cleaner but your bike is also older so I am not sure what fuel pak will work with it you should call vance and hines or ask a harley dealer
@daveharding4147
@daveharding4147 Жыл бұрын
Man I am auto tuning some custom pipes right now it is taking the fuel pac some time but it's working good for me
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Nice give it a good run at all speeds and rpm’s if you’re auto tuning and remember all the cells will not turn green. And if you want to really dial it in contact Vance and hines and they will look at the tune and tweak it. Good luck let me know how it goes
@RBRM3
@RBRM3 2 жыл бұрын
How would it be doing better in auto-tune if you have an applied the tune yet? I pulled the baffles in naturally Vance and Hines don't approve so they don't have maps for it and it's sputtering pretty badly taking off in first. I'm hoping that today when I put more time on it, it'll run better, then I'm just going to leave it on apply so it automatically does it every time I get on the bike.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Your bike will run like crap while in autotune until you download the new map.
@sboy1955
@sboy1955 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. It would be nice if the cells didn’t clear when you choose to “add” the current session so you could keep watching the map develop. I’m on my third session next week and will probably select “finish” after that one.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with that. The last one I did I rode for 2 1/2 hours straight all different conditions then just hit finish.
@sboy1955
@sboy1955 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl - I’m in no hurry so I’ll probably go ahead and run it for a few more sessions, longer ones for sure.
@martyncockerill8724
@martyncockerill8724 3 жыл бұрын
Take a screenshot of the grid before you flash, you can then compare it with the next runs
@ddibiasi1983
@ddibiasi1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl did you have to auto tune after you flashed the correct map or was auto tuning just for personal preference after you flashed the map?
@michaellissow543
@michaellissow543 Жыл бұрын
@@ddibiasi1983 It's like putting a new scope on a rifle. You bore sight it first to get you on paper at 100 yrds, (canned MAP) then you have to take a few shots to dial it in for repeatable accuracy. (A few rides in auto tune mode.)
@cgrazglassworks
@cgrazglassworks 4 жыл бұрын
great video thanks for the demonstration. also noticed you have some sorta cruise control bracket on your throttle. duno if you know but theres a small thumb wheel your thumb should be able to reach right under your switches on your right hand.. it has a spring on it.. thats your "cruise control" ;)
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
FxdwgMa I believe the lever you are referring to is a tentioner for your throttle. It adds resistance. Would take to long to get off in an emergency. The cruise on my bike was very inexpensive. I did a video on it. Thanks for watching hopefully you check out my other videos!
@cgrazglassworks
@cgrazglassworks 4 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Thanks for the response, ok very cool I will check that video out, thank you. I usually dont tighten mine too tight that way i can adjust it while im riding and give my hand a bit of a relax. Happy Riding M8, Stay Safe!!
@Sens3lesz
@Sens3lesz Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 low rider s. And i just bought the fp4, and im here getting some tips on how it works.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
I have not seen the fp4 is it any different than the Fp3? Thanks for checking it out
@mobkinq
@mobkinq Жыл бұрын
2011 Dyna Fat Bob, FP4 arrived last Tuesday. Having issues populating Green Cells over orange ones. Had to try in advanced mode and change starting temp to 150 degree and O2 Sensors to .8V. Not sure how your low rider is doing
@joshuaramos9676
@joshuaramos9676 2 жыл бұрын
Would using the map that’s already on the app work with a stock air cleaner on the iron 1200??
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure I would email vance and hines. That map says for hiflow air filter.
@davemetzler5462
@davemetzler5462 9 ай бұрын
What kind of phone mount are you using?? Looks pretty steady and tight..
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 9 ай бұрын
Rokform they are awesome. I have a video about it on my channel. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@jeeper911
@jeeper911 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there great videos. I just installed the Vance and Hines slip ons on my 2021 iron 1200 and I have the FP3 fuel pack on the way. Will that stop all the popping and sputtering ? Thanks and have a good one.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Mine did it has standard maps or you can do an autotune. It also has s decel pop reduction.
@jeeper911
@jeeper911 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl sounds good thanks for the reply. Ride safe I’m only up the road in mass lol
@chueyrun
@chueyrun 4 жыл бұрын
When I start an auto tune, do I have to keep auto tune on all the time until I finish?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
C hueyrun I believe but am not positive that you need to keep it on that map till you are done tuning. When ever I turned the bike off I applied values. When you feel like you have got enough time you hit the finish button.
@crabbycrouton4925
@crabbycrouton4925 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get one of these for my 19 1200 but my bike doesn't have a keyed ignition so it looks like its going to lose connectivity when i turn the bike off during mapping/tuning but shouldn't be a big deal.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it will be a problem just do what the app tells you to. I am sure if it was a problem I would have read about it somewhere. Let me know how you make out. Thanks for watching
@crabbycrouton4925
@crabbycrouton4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Thank you! Take it easy
@crabbycrouton4925
@crabbycrouton4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Sorry for the later reply, my 2019 was totalled in a hit and run. Just for the FP3 for my 2021 which also is keyless and the FP3 works great!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@crabbycrouton4925 wow sorry to hear that. People don’t care anymore. The FP3 is great!!!
@franksaxton3583
@franksaxton3583 Жыл бұрын
Your battery seems to be getting old or you have a poor connection somewhere in the starter motor circuit. My 2010 FXSTC does that a lot when it wants to tell me something. If it wasn't so difficult to replace it on my model I'd have an All Balls starter in it by now. Also FWIW, I'd have the bike running in top for before installing a tuner. Clean the air filter and throttle body, put in fresh plugs and so on. You don't want the tuner or autotune to be trying to bandaid a problem with ignition, timing, spark, fuel flow and so on. I was hearing a lot of misfires... could be just the audio cutting out. Of course I have no idea how well (or poorly) your engine was running before you installed the tuner. Great video! Much appreciate the detail you provided.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
It was a crap battery from the start . I put in an antigravity restart lithium ion and it starts like nothing. Worth the money I have a video about it on my channel. A bit expensive but worth it.
@mjtrace8391
@mjtrace8391 2 жыл бұрын
Me cells didn’t do anything after a 40min ride. Do I need to keep the FP3 plugged in during the ride?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Fp3 needs to be plugged into the bike during autotune.
@johnlewis5774
@johnlewis5774 Жыл бұрын
I had the shop install mine when they changed the pipes. I hit a deer last year and since ive gotten the bike back i feel like the air/fuel ratio is off. Bogging a little an acceleration in the higher rpm range and ive been wanting to try this autotune thing for a while but i fear my lack of fuelpack knowledge may screw things up more. Thanks for this. Ill give it a shot wish me luck 😅
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Good Luck. The biggest thing is to expect the bike to run terribly and possibly even stall. So make sure you don’t take any turns in front of anyone that is close. I don’t think you can screw it up to bad you can always reinstall the old map as long as you don’t erase it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@johnlewis5774
@johnlewis5774 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl thanks for the heads up. That definitely would have made me panic and think I did damage. Appreciate the assist ✌️
@500502
@500502 9 ай бұрын
Great video the only thing I noticed as you didn’t get in your upper rpm range you never got any green box down towards the bottom of your screen and your upper RPMs or with your throttle position open further.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 9 ай бұрын
I probably could have done alittle more but I have to say I am super happy with how the bike runs with the tune. Thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate it.
@mightyhavan
@mightyhavan 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, I have a 2015 dyna low rider and with full stage 1 using an FP3. if you do multiple auto tune sessions the result will be combine all together ?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Its my belief that it will use them all until you hit finish .
@mightyhavan
@mightyhavan 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl super ez and informative video man. Much appreciated it. I will try to do my own auto tune
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Just be prepared it may run crappy and want to stall in autotune. Its not bad when you are prepared for it. Thanks for watching.
@kevincraig8257
@kevincraig8257 4 жыл бұрын
So in order for it to learn completely or close to it will you have to make elevation changes just wondering how that works ? Thanks
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Craig I believe it takes the map you autotune off of and just dials it in a little better for your bike. They recommend riding for like around 3 half hour sessions at different speeds and conditions. I just did it all in one day. It did make a difference especially at low rpm. I don’t know about elevation changes. They don’t even do that when they dyno you’re bike I don’t believe,
@kevincraig8257
@kevincraig8257 4 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl thanks I understand that they cant change air pressures in a an uncontrolled environment but was just wondering what it would do taking it let's say from sea level to 14000 ft just wondering how wide of window it is capable of ?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Craig not sure but I know it has a pretty big effect
@wtf0101
@wtf0101 4 жыл бұрын
The fuel pac 3 isn't a speed density tuner it's a alpha N tuner,it only takes rpm and throttle position inputs and tunes off of them,it won't tune for altitude or load,
@lewishemi86
@lewishemi86 3 жыл бұрын
Purchased a stage 3 kit for my 103 switchback. Already have the FP3. Would auto tune work with the new cam and other internals or would I just need to get a custom tune?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I do not know. You probably want to talk to a professional.
@jameservin2415
@jameservin2415 2 жыл бұрын
You will want to call Vance & Hines. They will give you a map for your specific set up and just download and go. They told me to run a couple tank through and call them back with any issues. Been raining since, so haven't been able to test.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer.
@johnathonhayes9375
@johnathonhayes9375 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I heard anywhere. How long did it take you to get the whole auto tune done? I have the FP4 but it's taken a while of me just riding around. Still not complete.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
You will never fill the entire screen you just want most of it I think I did it in 3 hours. Drive on all different roads and highways in different gears at different speeds really mix it up.
@johnathonhayes9375
@johnathonhayes9375 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl awesome thanks!
@rayw8177
@rayw8177 3 жыл бұрын
say that parking lot looks like Nicolet College in Rhinelander. watched some other persons on this, just installed on my bike.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I really like it. I also keep mine mounted on the bike and have my phone mounted on my handlebars so I can access it anytime and use the gauges. I think that was Wilton CT
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Dyna Wide Glide, fuel injected, I believe this bike is too old for that particular tuner from V&H but I think there's others that work, that's what I've been researching. I noticed my V&H Bigshots or Longshots starting to turn a straw color on the rear pipe a couple months ago and lately the front pipe is a little. I haven't been riding it much because I've been adding things to it, put new brakes and rotors on, new windshield etc. Anyway, after a while it started missing here and there usually at cruise speeds then started popping when I'd decelerate. I put new spark plugs and wires on a few days ago and the missing is gone, I still can't figure out why the pipes started turning gold, maybe the computer leans it out when the spark plugs start going bad, IDK but they were carbon fouled pretty bad, especially the front cylinder, the gap was almost completely closed from carbon on that one. I'm going to talk to the bike mechanic here first, he might be able to throw a tune on it himself, maybe it just needs to be re-mapped....
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Stone talking with a professional is a great place to start. I have a project bike I am working on now and just figured out the craziest problem. Check out project bike episode 2 on my channel. It just goes to show you never know what it can be. Ride safe and thanks for watching!!
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Will do, thanks...
@romligno7335
@romligno7335 3 жыл бұрын
After flashing the 1st session of auto tune did u go back to the same map like before and resumed auto tune?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Rom Ligno it saves the autotune session as its own map
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Rom Ligno I don’t think you can leave the autotune session map till you hit finish anyway. Its been a while now. I may do an updated video in a couple of weeks now that I have been using it all summer
@teucer4
@teucer4 Жыл бұрын
I saved $400 and continue to run factory settings on the ECM and will probably continue to do so, regardless of intake and exhaust upgrades.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
How does the bike run? Any ideas of head Temperatures? Thanks for watching and commenting.
@teucer4
@teucer4 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Bike runs fine. Decel pop doesn’t bother me.
@Clutch_Kick187
@Clutch_Kick187 Жыл бұрын
@@teucer4 Its your bike but that is stupid.. the cylinder temps will wear your liners and coatings out so fast the bike will be shot in 15k miles or much less if it has bearing issues due to extreme heat.. Lean is Hot.. you need fuel to cool the cylinders and heads..
@maxdca8364
@maxdca8364 Жыл бұрын
Hello ! What about fuel consumption after mapping the bike ?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
About the same.
@billflixtone6684
@billflixtone6684 3 жыл бұрын
It is only running rough because it is in tune mode. Once you upload the tune it will be ok. It does not tune on the go, it's just gathering information.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching that is partially why I did this video to let people know who think they are doing something wrong. I have heard alot of different outcomes from people. But mine ran perfectly after the tune. I am thinking of doing a tune for low temperatures and one at high temperatures and load the maps according to the season. Spring Fall cool map summer hot map. Don’t know if it makes a difference but I like to experiment.
@nuffdoggiggey4103
@nuffdoggiggey4103 8 ай бұрын
Did it get rid of the poping? My bike never popped until harley got ahold of it, dang
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 8 ай бұрын
Yes it got rid of most of the decel pop. Thanks for watching
@akilla4reala669
@akilla4reala669 3 жыл бұрын
My bike ran horribly in auto tune and my engine light came on. I got tired of sputtering around too. I’ll probably try it again soon. ✌️
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Wow my bike ran bad but not that bad. Hopefully it works better for you this time.
@ddibiasi1983
@ddibiasi1983 2 жыл бұрын
I have the fuel pak and only flashed the correct map with my stage one and it has run perfect. No need for auto tune. I have a vance & Hine parts so no real need to auto tune. Just a person preference really. If the people you are running are not vance & Hines then maybe you will have to do an auto tune. I had the 1200 screamin eagle conversion kit installed over the winter. Vance & Hines employee says all I need to do is flash the 1200 conversion map and it all should be fine since the map is specific to the screamin eagle conversion.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
My bike ran okay with stock map. But ran better after autotune. I have vance and hines slip on and screaming Eagle air filter. Thanks for watching and letting me know what you found out. Happy New Year 🎊 Ride Safe
@kolemiller5336
@kolemiller5336 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of handlebars are those? Dont look like the stock ones?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
They are the stock bars 2019 iron 1200 sportster. Very comfortable
@Jacob-gp3ru
@Jacob-gp3ru 4 жыл бұрын
They are mini apes, I have same exact bike lol
@ironwarrior8890
@ironwarrior8890 10 ай бұрын
Did you manage to get all the blocks green on the map screen
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 10 ай бұрын
No they say it’s not possible to get them all if you run for a few hours at all different speeds and rpm you get the important ones I believe. Thanks for watching and commenting good luck with your tune.
@ShowseeTravels
@ShowseeTravels 2 жыл бұрын
Man... you got 2 bad boys creeping on you 👀
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
I just put mine in yesterday. Confused if my bike learned anything . But it's fun just the same . Today is gonna be a 6 hrs ride day
@dontworrybehappy8080
@dontworrybehappy8080 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. A little confused with the app.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Best thing I think is to check things out in the demo mode on the app. You can see everything without being connected to the FP3
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 жыл бұрын
@@dontworrybehappy8080 Its fun it will cater to how you ride . Then once you finish your blocks you can call Vance & Hines and they will walk and talk you through what you have to do on your end and they can trouble shoot your bike . Like mine was running rich they corrected what I didnt know how to fix myself . It was cool . And I had a ball tuning my own bike it was a blast to say the least . I filled in most of my blocks in two days in low mid and high rpm . High rpm you need room to move ( note ) it was scary fun .....
@dontworrybehappy8080
@dontworrybehappy8080 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl I'll try that today thanks.
@kreatordandy3738
@kreatordandy3738 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianrahuba6919 That's one issue I've been having. It's also been running rich. I keep getting check engine light. It will go away when Autotune off but comes back.
@orionclayton2478
@orionclayton2478 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say most people run these bikes at to low of an rpm. I seem hear a lot of people complaining about sputtering and what not and I'm hear shifts at like 2500 rpm. When it's more around 3000 and up. I'm no expert, but I've also talked to a master mechanic and he has told me the same thing, I was shifting to early. And running it to low a speed for the gear
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely runs better at a higher Rpm. If you shift according to the owners manual you will have a real miserable ride. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@adammiller1479
@adammiller1479 3 жыл бұрын
DONT AUTO TUNE UNLESS YOU HAVE THE WIDE BAND Oxygen sensor year sporty. I have an 07 nightster. Short shots and intake. It runs horrible. Cold start issues. Throttle response issues. Everything. The narrow band O2 sensors in the early models can’t properly tell the software what’s going on. Use the preset tunes. Works amazingly. I had so many issues auto tuning. Once I flashed a pre made tune on my sporty it runs great. More power and torque everywhere without any holes or hiccups.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 absolutely no problems autotuning. And a couple of guys I know had theirs tweeked by vance and hines after the autotune
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
What year did they change?
@lukaszkoczen
@lukaszkoczen 2 жыл бұрын
I installed it and rode for a full tank but still runs like shit, backfires like crazy, maybe one green squere and rest are dark. I think I need to do it again from the scratch..
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Try it again fill the tank and ride as long as you can at different speeds and rpm without shutting it off and download it. If it runs better and is close contact vance and hines and they can tweek the map. I found doing it in one segment worked better.
@dontworrybehappy8080
@dontworrybehappy8080 3 жыл бұрын
Is your FP3 hooked up while you ride?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I leave mine permanently hooked up to the bike so I can look at things whenever. I also have my phone mounted on my bars so I can use it to display extra gauges if I want also. It’s married to the bike so I might as well use it otherwise it would just sit in the garage.
@danmaltby3271
@danmaltby3271 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of phone mount do yiu use
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Rokform I have a video on my channel channel about it and installing it.
@firoutfarm
@firoutfarm Жыл бұрын
Great viedo. But do you ever stop at stop signs? lol
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
I try my best not to put my feet down lol.
@BDARROWOOD
@BDARROWOOD Жыл бұрын
What phone mount do you use?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Rokform. I really like it for the bike but being an electrician the magnetic case picks up all kind of metal shavings on ghe job site. I would recommend it but find a way to keep the charge port covered if you are around alot of metal scraps.
@michaelgaskill4594
@michaelgaskill4594 2 жыл бұрын
Does the FP3 drain the battery when left plugged in all the time?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
I do not think so I never had any problems.
@PitbullSoco
@PitbullSoco 5 ай бұрын
No, the data port is unpowered unless the ignition is on
@brenttrading2363
@brenttrading2363 3 жыл бұрын
Was your boat the big one.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Only an 18’ nothing impressive lol
@rodolfosabater7781
@rodolfosabater7781 3 жыл бұрын
If you hit the finish button will you still be able to edit it the next day?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Finish ends that session I believe. You would have to start a new one
@rodolfosabater7781
@rodolfosabater7781 3 жыл бұрын
Im also thinking of my cellphone battery... since in the manual it states there that you need to do 3 sessions at 60 min per session to be able to tune properly and hit the finish button.. my bike does not have a USB port what if my cellphone battery drains while im tuning
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodolfosabater7781 you can do 3 different sessions just hit apply and not finish till the last session
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodolfosabater7781 I also have a video installing a usb on my motorcycle on my channel.
@rodolfosabater7781
@rodolfosabater7781 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl -wow thanks, will surely watch that... does it not drain the battery?
@diegojones2481
@diegojones2481 Жыл бұрын
I’m almost positive I need to map my bike. It sputters when it’s cold and on take off a little
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Give it a try. Thanks for watching
@diegojones2481
@diegojones2481 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl my tables aren’t really filling up with data. Everything is orange that did fill 🤔
@ingemarnilsson5498
@ingemarnilsson5498 8 ай бұрын
Why do you not stop totally at stop sign?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 8 ай бұрын
I am a believer in full stops but on my motorcycle I try not to put my feet down more than I have to. I talked to a few officers and they told me most of the time they wouldn’t bother a motorcycle if they at least come close to stopping. Just my opinion for the most part I follow the rules and do reasonable speeds.
@jonathancasasanta
@jonathancasasanta 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice any power improvement?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Casasanta a little bit. Not like an omg difference. But I do think it runs a little better and definitely fixed the decel Pop.
@DNiddy
@DNiddy 10 ай бұрын
I am surprised the tune was loaded with that killswitch in the off position.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 10 ай бұрын
It was stored it was between runs I believe. It was quite a while ago. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think I did something wrong. When I tried to do an auto tune session on my 2016 road king it ran like absolute SHIT, felt like it was running on 1 cylinder and making about 5HP. Quickly went back to a unmodified map, the bike could hardly get out of its own way and didn't learn any cells after about 5 minutes.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
My bike ran like crap while autotuning but yours sounds like it was really bad. My bike would spit and sputter and want to stall when taking off.
@OEFveteran2010
@OEFveteran2010 Жыл бұрын
Great video will try auto tune 👍🏼
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
It makes it easier when you are aware your bike runs terrible in autotune. Thanks for watching and commenting good luck with the tune.
@MrTech8911
@MrTech8911 4 жыл бұрын
Does this void the warranty? Also what cell holder is that.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
MrTech8911 yes if Harley finds out you use a non approved tuner it can void certain parts of your warranty. Also it is a Rokform phone holder check out my video installing it. It is the best I love it. The magnet in the phone case is awesome. There is also a magnet in the mount when you clip it in it does not move!!!! Thanks for watching
@MrTech8911
@MrTech8911 4 жыл бұрын
I am a former East coaster but relocated to the Midwest. I miss those coastal towns and good hearted people. Thank you sir
@MazzInCali
@MazzInCali 2 жыл бұрын
Dude where the hell are you? Hope you’re good. Let us know you’re ok!!!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
All is good I moved. And rather quickly lol
@shortbus794
@shortbus794 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. But I’m still scared to try the auto tune.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Understandable. You never want to ride a bike with poor performance in traffic. But if you do it just be careful and prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Thanks for watching and commenting
@shortbus794
@shortbus794 2 жыл бұрын
Im honestly just not tech savvy. So that’s my worry. But I wheelie the bike. An need a little me sack. If that makes any sense sir.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
I sure do. I wish I could wheelie the bikes!!
@RBRM3
@RBRM3 2 жыл бұрын
If you pull the baffles then you have to because they won't allow maps to be put on it with them taking out.
@nathanstackhouse7026
@nathanstackhouse7026 2 жыл бұрын
What bars are those??
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
They are the stock bars for the 2019 iron1200 sportsters. I think 8”
@TheMetalmachine467
@TheMetalmachine467 Жыл бұрын
was it worth the money
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Yes it was for me so I can run the hi flow air filter. I love to be able to see all the readings in the app also. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@motorcycle.misadventures
@motorcycle.misadventures 2 жыл бұрын
if you were to have read the instructions you would have known that autotune turns off all of the cold start features of the fuel injection. You need to warm the bike up first if its a cold day.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
My bike was already warm when I started.
@debrathane7177
@debrathane7177 4 жыл бұрын
What does MAP stand for?
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
debra thane I don’t think it has an acronym. I believe it is an actual map that gets flashed to your ecu/ecm and tells your fuel injection system how much fuel to add at different times. I am not a Harley Tech so thats my take I know about the basics (enough to make me dangerous) lol
@kevincraig8257
@kevincraig8257 4 жыл бұрын
Manifold pressure what actually.does is an afr it adjust the mixture to different loads that are seen by monitoring intake manifold pressure's when you are running with in epa regs your engine is running lean the tuner brings the mixture to best power getting the most out of your engine the way it was designed to run before the icebergs started to melt
@1pollo1rabbit
@1pollo1rabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Manifold Absolute Pressure.It’s used by the engines’ computer to detect engine load.
@Sens3lesz
@Sens3lesz Жыл бұрын
Thats exit 44 of Merritt? Lol
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl Жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Thanks for checking it out.
@destinnewlon1957
@destinnewlon1957 2 жыл бұрын
Auto tune doesn't change the tune while you're riding target tune does
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does not change till you hit finish tune.
@destinnewlon1957
@destinnewlon1957 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl I have not had good experience with auto tune at all I tune it 2 times the second being final and the bike just dies when I go to take off every time
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
@@destinnewlon1957 mine ran really rough especially later in the tune. But once I finish it my bike runs great but it was a little sketchy on autotune. I have also talked to people that did autotune then send it to vance and hines and they dial it in further at no charge. Good luck with it be careful and just expect the stall all the time
@destinnewlon1957
@destinnewlon1957 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl yeah for sure waiting to dyno tune it at Trask
@leapfrog4546
@leapfrog4546 3 жыл бұрын
Damnit Carl! Jk thanks man
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MrTech8911
@MrTech8911 4 жыл бұрын
Cell phone
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 4 жыл бұрын
iPhone 11
@bobgil3464
@bobgil3464 3 жыл бұрын
Dude those cops are conducting surveillance on you. Get rid of any contraband.
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hunteroftruth4986
@hunteroftruth4986 2 жыл бұрын
You have far to many stop signs! You should go out west and ride!!!
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of traffic lights and stop signs around me. Luckily I can get away from alot of them if I hit the quiet towns. I would love to ride out west though. Thanks for watching and commenting
@Suchtzocker
@Suchtzocker Жыл бұрын
all this just to avoid a half hour on a dyno ....
@MotorcyclingwithCarl
@MotorcyclingwithCarl 11 ай бұрын
Everyone around me are super expensive. But probably worth it. Thanks for watching.
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